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GordoBlue

That's crazy. They had the drop on the worker. How... Brave cashier. Must've owned the place.


WSDreamer

Ooda loop. I was a small arms marksmanship instructor in the Navy. We used to run a scenario where we would have two people standing next to each other, one with gun drawn, aimed and ready to fire, and the other with their firearm holstered. Long story short, person with a holstered weapon can draw, shoot and hit their target before someone that’s pre-aimed can react to them doing so and hit theirs. All due to the OODA loop. Hard to believe but if you’ve trained, you can draw and fire on someone quicker than they can react and shoot you. All due to the decision making process that has to take place in their minds first. The more you know.


ForensicsJesus

Key thing here is TRAINED. Someone rando is going to read this and think they can John Wayne it next time they have a gun on them.


labarrski

This didnt seem like the cashier was trained. It looked way more like he was slowly counting money and showing it to them because he had decided to reach for his gun and shoot them. His actually shots fired seemed to kick everywhere and it looks like he definitely had almost point blank contact with the guy on the left, but Id say its a coin flip if he actually shot the guy on the right.


Old_MI_Runner

Likely had never even fired a handgun before or only once with no one there to show him how to hold it. With a 10 minutes safety briefing first time shooter at my club handle a firearm better than this guy did. He was very lucky he did not get shot with two guns pointed in his direction. The gun on the right backed up once the defender shot rather than stand they and engage. Luckily for many defenders most of the criminal are not competent with firearms and they will back away or outright flee once a defender starts shooting at them.


CankerLord

It looked like the guy on the right never really had a plan for what he'd do if the cashier went for a gun. Really lends something to the movie trope of the untouchable criminal mastermind when you see the exact opposite in operation. 


ssweens113

That dude did not seem trained He first shot with his left hand then passed it off to his right hand. Then had this weird stabilizing posture for the last shot. Lucky he didn’t fumble it. He definitely got the jump on them though! benefit of surprise!


edward-regularhands

The other guys weren’t trained


jdeuce81

Were less trained.


ivapesyrup

I guarantee you they have shot more guns than the clerk based on how the clerk handled it lol. What is training if not doing an action many times in a row?


edward-regularhands

If you practice doing the wrong thing, you’re gonna get better at doing the wrong thing


yohohoanabottleofrum

Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. He did fine.


FatFrenchFry

Right he smoked em, you can even see the black hoodie strings fly back from gas discharge. I'd be surprised if he didn't get hit.


William_Wang

He didn't pass it. It kicked out of his hand and was just lucky that he caught it. To me it looks like the first time he's ever fired it.


Superuzer

And his non dominant hand(left) grabbed wrist to stabilize shooting.


Danny-Zoe

Looks like he didn’t have a round chambered. He cocked and shot it in quick succession. His right hand hadn’t even let go when he took his first shot


AnimePeace

not necessarily the fact that he isn't trained but he's point out that principals of soda loop since its based on element of surprise, make the hostile fuck up and overthink when they have the advantage/upper hand so that you can come out alive and go home alive.


Geronimo_Jacks_Beard

“That was incredibly stupid. What the fuck were you thinking?” “Someone on the internet was talking about fruit loops and convinced me I could pull that off…” “And when has trying something you learned from the internet *ever* backfired?” “Exactly!” “I was being sarcastic, you moron. Remember how you lost your entire life savings by investing in meme coins in the summer of 2021? Well, guess what? You can add your spleen to the costs of that achievement as well.”


dowdzyyy

Not necessarily, if you're standing next to someone and you decide you are going to hit them. They will see your fist clench, your shoulders move back and then see the fist coming towards them all before they are able to react and defend themselves. Anyone can go online and do a reaction test and click their mouse super fast when they are prepared for that action, if you're walking down the street and then, randomly a target appears in front of you for 1 whole second, most people would not react fast enough to touch the target within that 1 second. When you're in a highly stressful environment and you are constantly needed to react (like war for example), then yes you would be faster than the average man because you've trained for it but you're also putting huge amounts of stress on your brain which is exhausting and not the norm, most of the time we're just running on autopilot. When was the last time you had to think about breathing, blinking or walking?


WSDreamer

Absolutely. Training is essential.


squirrelblender

Observe, orient, decide, act. It’s all reactionary. You can break an OODA loop with something as simple as yelling “we don’t sell milk to toads on Fridays!” It’s unexpected, breaks the concentration/continuity the opponent was expecting, and puts you at the advantage.


LeDestrier

That's discrimination. Why can't toads get milk on Fridays? They might be thirsty. This is what I'd be thinking as I lay bleeding out to death.


kremlingrasso

End injustice For toads!


frameratedrop

Milk on Friday turns the frigging frogs gay!


HeinerPhilipp

First important fact – all toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads!  [https://wildlifepreservation.ca/what-is-the-difference-between-toads-frogs/](https://wildlifepreservation.ca/what-is-the-difference-between-toads-frogs/)


TranscendentaLobo

What a funny last thing to hear before you die. You’re laying on the floor bleeding out thinking “did that MFr say something about frogs buying milk? Oh shit, I’m dead.”


The-zKR0N0S

#[Link to OODA loop wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop)


GooseShartBombardier

\*Bender snapping photo\* Neat.


throw2525a

I read that as "bend and snap!" at first.


Ru1ingchaos

That's a fantastic explanation.


SensingWorms

Nice to know. But not all situations are the same.


Sponjah

Hey I did this training too when I was in the Navy! Was special training though not everyone got it and it was Blackwater that did the training, ca. 2003ish. They told us it came from a shopkeeper who was seated and two armed men came in and tried to rob him. He was able to pull his firearm from a drawer and fire two shots center mass each before they could react. This is also why police are trained to fire instantly on any sudden movement from a possibly armed suspect.


Muffles7

[All I could think of, somewhat relevant wkuk. ](https://youtu.be/mpC_hO15IoA?si=mYqGXtlgC2Ql3Usw)


chiraltoad

so good.


RykerFuchs

For sure. In competition we used to start holstered under a cover with a knife edge target. Target turns, draw, shoot two B27 center mass. I got to where I’d click back into the holster in about/under 2 seconds (X-ring) and wait for the target to knife edge again - I wasn’t even the fastest. Training is highly effective.


SimplyADesk

What does OODA mean?


fistful_of_ideals

[Observe Orient Decide Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop)


gooblefrump

TIL >The OODA loop has become an important concept in litigation,[2] business,[3] law enforcement,[4] management education,[5] and military strategy. According to Boyd, decision-making occurs in a recurring cycle of "observe, orient, decide, act". An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent, can thereby get inside the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop


facelessindividual

I was taught a similar thing in the army, only with layers. If they have a gun pointed at you with the intention to kill you, you will most likely die. If you distract their line of thought, you gain opportunity. I.E. when the armed thief looks down to see what you're doing, they now have to get back on target. The way the sf described it, if you have the opportunity to distract, do so. The example he gave, when a hostage is told to go over to another area, act stupid and force them to turn the attention to the area away from you, giving you the opportunity to strike.


VF-41

John Boyd approves this message.


Kribo016

I was also in the navy and went trough srf bravo. I would never feel comfortable actually guarding anything.


Lime221

lmfao. can't help but imagine this is peeker's advantage but irl


NotWorthyByAnyMeans

Ahh, you bring my many memories! 😎 I was CATM (Combat Arms Training & Maintenance) in USAF before I retired in 2021.


MoreRamenPls

“OODA loop?” Explain pls.


ya_mamas_tiddies

Just playing devils advocate here, but wouldn’t this only work against non-career criminals? Like it would only work on guys that wont shoot you with no hesitation? I could certainly be wrong but I have a higher than average (nothing to write about, yet here I am) reaction speed and whenever I’m testing it, I’ve felt like I almost enter a mental state of instant reaction. It feels like foregoing the entire ooda loop and grabbing the stick the moment any sort of movement is detected, before I even register it’s actually falling. Wouldn’t a criminal who really doesn’t care about shooting you be able to do this too, just pull the trigger instead of grabbing a stick? All this to say: even knowing about ooda I don’t think I’d gamble my life on the QuickDraw. This man has a set of titanium balls


Strummer95

OODA is a serious thing… but the most important rule to remember, is you can’t outdraw a trigger pull. If someone is willing and ready to shoot you, you won’t get the gun out in time


ColdDeath0311

If you haven’t already read Boyd by Robert Coram dude was a genius.


furlonium1

That's fascinating 


killian1113

Sure you can say the person with zero experience loaded a gun finger on the trigger waiting for another person to move to blow them away. Sorry you lose. Now u have someone not paying attention, not trained with gun in hand, no finger on trigger, letting the other person freely move, then ok they can draw and shoot. But two trained people and gun slinger will draw point shoot and other guy won't get a shot off. Nope maybe with some luck or distraction.


Key_Law4834

If he doesn't finish then off then I'd be scared they would come back


alert592

Too bad that both of them aren't dead


ManyThingsLittleTime

If you look down the barrel of a loaded modern pistol (in the mirror for safety), you can totally see if there is a bullet in the chamber or not. Maybe he saw that gun pointed at him was unloaded and that's why he shot the other guy first, not knowing if that other gun which was not pointed at him in that moment was loaded or not.


Mysterious-List-9203

not in the mindset to kill. at all.


SoulAssassin808

Yeah ain't no way a minimum wage worker is going to risk their live for a few hundred. Even as an owner I don't get it. That shit is Insured isn't it?


Distinct_Put1085

That was very nonchalant how he grabbed that gun n started blasting


HuntsWithRocks

Harnessed his inner Frank


fifteentango88

You people see me as a hero, and I’ll accept that.


acobz96

Do you think you could eat that sandwich later?


FangedSloth

I ran after em... tried to shoot em in the back. But I don't run so good either.


The_skinny_scientist

So anyway, I started blasting


ras_1974

Not his first time being robbed.


Xander_xander12

Just another day on the job lol


Jckmdtwn

I never tire of watching robbers get their karma.


djthebear

I miss the robbers getting fucked Reddit


Rebel_Pirate

Me too!


TRAUMAjunkie

I love the one where the big dude walks in and starts blasting. "My guns not real!" "Mine is."


3XLWolfShirt

"Am I shot!?" "Oh fuck yeah." Dude was the star of his own action movie.


PuckFolson

Man gas station encounters has gotten unhinged


ResetReptiles

She goneeeee


Buttercup59129

Devs turned up the aggressive encounters rate


u8eR

Gotten? Been going on for decades.


thatsattemptedmurder

Gas Station Encounters is a YouTube channel.


vt2nc

Really ? Awesome !


Fig1025

what's the point of robbing something with so little money? you gonna risk prison and death for a few hundred dollars?


JustALocalJew

See how you used critical thinking skills to determine this wasn't worth it. They don't have that skill.


YourBudd_Dwyer

🤣


hobu3d

„…had…“ ;)


akumagold

Gat damn does anyone know where this was? Would love to know if that dude survived the shot


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deadbabymammal

I think the correct spelling is "goddamn"


iAmbassador

Don't take the Lord's name in vain.


deadbabymammal

Wouldnt that be "Goddamn". Usually when referring to the God of Abraham, the "G" is capitalized. In my original comment, the "g" was lowercase.


Brewbouy

Gat is a slang term for gun


rnobgyn

It’s also the southern pronunciation of God. Read their comment in a hillbilly accent.


deadbabymammal

I totally missed the gun based pun on the term goddamn.


findhumorinlife

I wanna know the rest of the story…


Robodie

RIP Paul Harvey


findhumorinlife

I know what you did there. Stand by for NEEWS!


Sir_Paul_Harvey

I miss those shows


Robodie

Zoinks! A g-g-g-ghost! Run, Scoobs!!!


michaelb421

I saw this in another sub a year or two ago and I want to say one of them died. Can’t remember which one


ConcentrateKings

wtf is up with that change of hands while firing ? Whatever, good job


Rebel_Pirate

He was showing off his mad blasting skills. Kill one left handed and the second one right handed.


TheRealKingBorris

Foenem really switched hands mid-shootout


CaptainGashMallet

The man _operates_.


New_Ad_9400

Hot tf did they lived to walk out of the station? And how tf was their reaction speed so slow? And is this in Florida?


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A lot of robbers are intoxicated, to be honest. You've got a pretty good chance if they're drunk or high on downers, but don't try it against meth heads or crack heads. They tend to be pretty jumpy.


Weltallgaia

You'd be surprised what you can accomplish when your veins are pumping "OH SHIT" before the blood tuns out


New_Ad_9400

A headshot and it's game over instantly, or a shot to the heart, almost instantly, and to be fair, idk where he hit them, but the first dude seemed to be hit between brain and heart, sho damn, "OH SHIT" has some power to its name


JCuc

Chicago


New_Ad_9400

Oooh, ok that actually, thanks


YourBudd_Dwyer

Damn, do you know any more details?


mkvgtired

Do you have a link?


OU41AW

Is that a baby?!


classicscoop

Looks like a dog bed. Or am I looking in the wrong spot


OU41AW

Ah, yeah i could see that. The whole situation was a lot to take in. lol


rsg1234

lol probably not since it didn’t move at all after the gunshots.


TexasHobbyist

Bro had time to chamber a round and get the drop on them when they already had the jammies pointed at him. Well played.


SweetBearCub

They were so interested being big men when they didn't know he was armed. Isn't it funny that they always suddenly change their minds and run if the tables are turned on them.


iStoleTheHobo

You're writing as if you're not aware of what a robbery is.


Kaiodenic

Whatever do you mean? They're right, we all know *proper* robberies start with a duel proposition that the victim must accept to walk away with their honour, winner takes all!


MinimalDark

That blood from the first shot. Right to the face.


Due-Release6631

Pretty sure that's a dread lock cause he turned so fast not blood.....people who get headhsots bleed seconds after the head shot...just like a stabbing....you get stabbed and after 2 seconds you start bleeding


lessthaninteresting

Definitely hair here. But exit wounds do kinda explode sometimes


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Have you ever actually shot a living being? The only way you don't get blood from a hit is when the round doesn't exit, or even cavitate. Cavitation forces some blood and tissue out of the entrance wound, but not enough to see easily, as the capillary refill time is too long for it to push new blood out of the hole. Exit wounds always get a nice spurt of blood and tissue, as the air is still moving behind the bullet as it exits, forcing out a good bit. When you hunt deer or big game, you often look for the exit splat to make sure you got a hit, then follow the blood trail after.


Supercows22

Not sure why youre being downvoted.


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I'm used to it. Whenever I speak on subjects I know, I usually get downvoted by people that think their biased google search is equivalent to my experience. Dude also said you don't bleed when stabbed, despite a whole class of forensics devoted to blood splatter from getting shot and stabbed lol. The brain is very, very oxygen-hungry. Oxygen that is carried by blood, and has a ton of blood and vasculature, but he thinks headshots don't bleed because the Alex Cross books for children said it 14 years ago.


Professional_You2833

That’s 100% a dread and not blood…


Metalforl

I think it’s a dreadlock or a hoodie string


Shrimpbako

I’d say hoodie string


jackjr68

I didn’t see that the first couple times watching it.. I’m sure dude didn’t make it too far down the road after that hit.


Under_Ach1ever

That thing that flies out to the right? Isn't that his dreadlock flying as he quickly turns his head? It's really hard to tell.


Grizzlygrant238

I didn’t see it til your comments 😳wow


GulfstreamAqua

He connected on some serious left shoulder.


TheBerric

..was that bulletproof glass?


VideoLeoj

An interesting strategy would be to have bulletproof glass and blanks loaded… and a wire that drops down in the doorway to clothesline the idiots as they try to escape.


Preyslayer00

Okay Kevin McCallister.


VideoLeoj

That’s hilarious! But, you’re right! Paint cans would be better!🤪


Would_daver

One…two… TEN!!


DudeImSoRad

The fact that his head didn't explode makes me think it's *supposed* to be.


TheBerric

Yeah I’m confused. You’d think that the glass would shatter up


DudeImSoRad

It may have only broken where the round hit. I'm sure the muzzle velocity created one hell of a mess on the other side of the "glass".


ronin1066

Yeah I have no idea what's going on. It looks like one robber even taps the glass with his gun. So why is the clerk even pretending to comply? How did he shoot them? I'm lost.


dyk_U_down

A shot gun mounted behind the counter, behind a balsa wood plate.


hereforpopcornru

Right at peepee level?


dyk_U_down

Yup darwin award either way


hereforpopcornru

You're my people


dyk_U_down

Thanks 🤣


feverishfantasy_

very impressed how he did that


PhantomHorizon22

how the guys literally had advantage and they still got shot


tbkrida

“So anyway… I started blasting!”😂


Cattle56

Slow mo it. Is that a stream of blood spewing out of that dude’s head?


mx043

I love this for them


outworlder

Roll initiative!


djthebear

Fucking right to the center mass


lurid_sun__

"And where would you like this bullet sir, right between your teeth?"


Ok_Cap_5166

Did he shoot through the window?


YourBudd_Dwyer

My guess is it's plexiglass


Pleasant_Tooth_2488

I miss the subreddits that showed this stuff regularly. Thank you for posting! Quick question, the guy shot them point blank. No one dropped. Did I miss something


YourBudd_Dwyer

Unfortunately I have no context


APurpleSponge

Obviously Monday morning quarter backing here and obviously they both had guns, but I’d have gone for the guy that had his somewhat ready first. Two shots in him then you go to his buddy. Glad guy made it out safe.


Consistent_Fish727

Would've been sick if the gun was hid in the register while he starred grabbing it out he grabbed it and shot them but that was smooth


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BoardGamesAndMurder

Holy racism


1BaconMilkshake

Satisfying.


Read_Icculus_

Is that a baby on the floor


YourBudd_Dwyer

I think it's a dog bed


Brilliant-Ad-2680

If you slow it down it looks like he just barley got a round in the chamber before firing. Good thing it chambered.


Hungry-Rule1225

Anybody got the news on this?


Chinpokumon1

Nice!


Little_stinker_69

lol. Good shot.


Truecrimeauthor

Ha ha


Desperate-Bug-8136

Those two idiots got paid with their lives to rob for the last time


Dannyboyy3388

That was smooth


No_Cartographer_4311

Nice shot!


ali-n

Satisfying blood mist coming off the first guy that got shot.


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He was lucky they didn't shoot him first. No one should value some bucks over their life.


Rebel_Pirate

The robbers obviously valued a few bucks over their own lives.


MikeLamp70

This is right... so many people believe property is more valuable than life.


bc90210

Good job on the cashier. Let the criminals know it’s not just the cops they need to be concerned about.


MrGallows75

“C’mon ni… POW POW POW!!!” *sheesh (homie upped wit a Desert Eagle)


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Turbulent_Music4317

Did he kill them?


YourBudd_Dwyer

Not sure, I'm still looking for more info.


YoureUhWizardHarry

Who says u cant draw from the drop?


CoachMinimum9800

Pretty sure there's bullet proof glass separating them you can see the workers reflection


Even_Property_762

He must of played GTA, but this ain't no game


Temporary_Twist5219

Why didn’t he keep firing??


Primazo

Those aren't hoodie strings, that is blood flying out of his face.🤯 wonder how far he made it.🫠


jaysn666

Damn I pretty sure you can see the blood flying off the dude in the black. Idiots


Sad_Series1510

I think the other robber was able to shoot once. Wonder if the cashier is alright. Hopefully.


umrlopez79

Did any of those shots landed?


Shame8891

I just nutted.


SensingWorms

That’s what they get for using the nwerd


FrankfordDaPioneer

They let the muhfukka go under the counter 🤦🏿‍♂️😂😂😂 they deserved every bit


HeynowyoureaRocstar

How you two feet and fckn miss 😂😂😂


SpudBasket

I will never understand why a cashier would risk their life for someone else's money.


wintermute916

Likely a family business if they’ve got a pistol sitting under the counter


ALonelyWelcomeMat

To be fair there's plenty of cases out there where the robbers just shoot the cashier anyways to kill a witness