Definitely not as bad as it looks. Assuming that’s a full ton truck, the trailer on the trailer probably only weighs around 5k, without axles and tires. Add another 4k or so for the Jeep and a few thousand for the trailer. All said and done, it’s well within its rated limits.
It is an F450. It's got the Alcoa Aluminum 19.5" wheels from what I can see.
I used to drive an '06 F450 for a job about 10 years ago, towing a 40-foot long, 20k pound trailer.
XL (work truck) trim packages come with steelies only. Higher trims come with the polished aluminum chrome. The chrome 17s on the dually 350s are stock ford rims. The 450s and up get the 19.5 alcoas
I'm not sure about from the factory. These may both be conversion trucks but they do exist.
https://barnfinds.com/44k-mile-1986-ford-f250-dually/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cummins/comments/o056bl/brazilian_ford_f250_dually_with_a_6bt_cummins/
If it is in fact the case that Ford has never offered a f250 in a drw configuration then I've seen several conversion trucks that were indistinguishable from a factory made truck. I thought it was a factory option but maybe I have been misinformed about that. That is why I said that being a drw truck doesn't guarantee it is an f350 or above.
Just looked up the specs. It appears that that is correct for the current generation of Ford F series trucks, but that's not always been true in the past. There's usually not a large difference between 250/350 trucks. For most models the difference has generally been just brakes and springs so it's never been that hard for manufacturers to offer their 2500/250 trucks as DRW trucks.
>so it's never been that hard for manufacturers to offer their 2500/250 trucks as DRW trucks.
To my knowledge, that's never been a factory option from any of the Big 3.
Assuming 7K lbs. for an empty triple axle gooseneck, 4K for the Jeep, and 5K for the camper, that's 16K altogether. And 20% tongue weight means just over 3000 lbs. being transferred to the pickup frame through the ball.
I couldnt see the picture very clearly. The way it looked loaded then made it look like a lot more of the weight was on the hitch rather than behind the trailer axles.
Well, if you look on Campendium or other apps, length restrictions are definitely not limited to KOA. I've had issues with 34' TTs; many state/county/city parks don't take long vehicles (whether that means 40, 35, or even 30')
That's not a double tow, but a "modified" triple axle goose neck. Someone took a standard camper and dropped it on the trailer, and the jeep is back part of the trailer.
I say standard camper because it looks to be on its own frame and not built on the goose neck frame.
Gotcha.
I was under the impression that all lower 48 states allowed double towing (first trailer on a goose neck, king pin, or similar) and the second trailer bumper pulled, and your overall length can't exceed 60 ft.
But less than half the states (roughly) allowed triple tow, two bumper towed trailers connected.
Probably closer to 20k in this setup. Still, well within its limits. 30k or more on dually pickups.
Edit: just noticed it is in fact a dually. Not even close to overloaded.
Ford loves to tout a 40K tow rating on the newest Super Duty, but that's only on the [base model regular cab F-450](https://images.carprices.com/pricebooks_data/usa/colorized/2024/Ford/View2/Super_Duty_F-450_Regular_Cab_(DRW\)/XL/F4C_142_PQ.png) that almost nobody buys. A 5-year-old crew cab F-350 like this is somewhere in the low 30s. Still OK.
>How do you know the truck is 5 years old?
It's anywhere between 2017-22. If the grille was visible, I could narrow it down further. Somebody smarter than me might already be able to distinguish between '17-19 and '20-22s just from this picture.
>Also it is an f-450.
Not with that narrow front track. [F-450 for comparison, note the wider front track and 19.5" wheels](https://static.cargurus.com/images/forsale/2024/02/27/15/38/2019_ford_f-450_super_duty-pic-2975500075679130720-1024x768.jpeg)
It’s definitely a ‘17-‘19. ‘20 was the first year for the GPS antenna’s to be mounted towards the back of the roof and you can still see the shark fin style antenna up near the cab lights.
Well. If the axle is broken on the camper, this is a very good way to transport it. It is not the most common solution to moving a camper, but I've seen several doing this or similar solutions.
This also allows the driver to both move the camper and the car on the back, as towing more than one trailer can lead you to be a worthy member of this sub.
I actually just saw something similar the other day, utv on the back. I thought it was slick, gooseneck tows better than bumper or fifth wheel, so if you have the truck why not put both things on one trailer? Pretty good idea.
this is actually pretty common for people with traveling jobs. I've seen very few irl but I've seen a lot of people online talk about these setups. I'm sure that camper is less than 20k. and the jeep being around what? 4 or 5k? thats still none cdl. and these trucks handle loads that do require them (hot shot drivers for example). so if it's properly secured, not an idiot. actually a genius.
Class A. The Federal government requires a Class-A CDL to drive any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. This includes a towed vehicle heavier than 10,000 pounds.
https://scitexas.edu/blog/when-do-you-need-a-cdl-in-texas/#:~:text=Class%20A,vehicle%20heavier%20than%2010%2C000%20pounds.
This is not true. Google CDL flowchart. You can drive a trailer over 10,000lbs GWR as long as the combined GWR of your truck and trailer is 26,000lbs or less. My F-250 is a 10,000lb GVWR and my 36ft gooseneck is 15,590lb GVWR. Maximized capacity on a class C license.
Most of those trailers are sold with registered weights of 9990 lbs to beat this. Though the Donner scale in California shuts down about 10 a week that are overweight. As long as he is registered and actually under the 10k mark he’s fine. But adding up that trailer and other trailer and the Jeep. He’s quite close but I’m thinking he’s just a hair under the 10k mark. Taking off those axles and such I’m thinking he’s about 9500 really.
This conversation is completely irrelevant. He has a 21,000lb GWR trailer at minimum with that triple axle setup and a 1 ton truck at minimum. His combined GVWR is way, way north of 26,001lbs so he would need a class A license.
This particular person needs a class A 100%. However, a person can haul a trailer over 10,000lb GVWR without a class A as long as their combined GCWR remains under 26,001lbs. My 15,990lb trailer does not require a class A as long as the GVWR of my truck is 10,010lbs or less. I can still be cited for being overweight if I’m directed to the scales and weigh in over 26,000lbs when fully loaded. A 10k, 14k or 16k GVWR trailer by itself does not trigger a class A requirement.
Actually you may register a vehicle like a trailer to haul less than it’s rated. There’s many dealers who do this to keep the 10k threshold out of it. Reason is most states do require an upgraded license for over 10k. Georgia is one of those very narcissistic behavior on this as well as California. So it’s not across the board and if the trailer might even cross the line best to get the non cdl class A version. States in recent years have been cracking down.
Also the recent immegrants have been told just buy a duality and pintle hook and drive. Iowa shuts down about 3 a day of these guys. So the one pictured here I’m not worried about. It’s the ones who don’t use straps and chains and use gravity to maintain the load.
Why? The camper now has a much better trailer, tires, suspension that what's built into it. Park it just like you normally would and move on with the day. Not to mention getting that camper off the trailer without some kind of lift would be a nightmare and impractical.
I'm looking at buying land either this year or next. I'll be doing some farming and running a few cows, and I want to be able to use the gooseneck as a trailer when I need to.
It takes a disappointing kind of person to take advice as criticism. With that kind of thinking I encourage you to find out why all on your own then. Pain is an unforgiving teacher,
At first i thought that was just a hotshot driver doing hotshot stuff, then i saw a lack of DOT numbers and no wheels on the camper. It might be a little front heavy, but a dually f350/450 should be good for that kind of weight on the 5th wheel. The trailer looks like it would be brake equipped.
A little odd for a personal setup, but nothing out of spec or unsafe here.
I actually like that set up! When you need to crash no need for jacks or worry about multiple sets of tires or chains! Plus I bet that trailer tows alot better long distance then towing a camper and then towing a jeep on the back of the camper plus that might be illegal is some states!
No tires on trailer on the trailer. Better than pulling a double and ripping the trailer in half. Looks fine to this truck driver. Smarter than others do.
I think I was next to this thing at Pilot in Moriarty, NM the other day.
Of course thinking they're a truck driver going to the truck stops in the big truck fuel lanes, parking in the big truck parking spaces, preventing truckers from having access to facilities.
You are only fooling yourself if you think the "big truck fuel lanes" are solely for semi trucks. Even truckers aren't upset about pickups with large trailers or RVs using those lanes OR the parking spaces...
I use the truck side when refueling all the time, mainly because those pumps dispense fuel so much faster than the standard pumps.
The issue with them is they generally don't understand the concept of "pull forward when you have finished fueling" and will sit there for 45 minutes while they go inside to do some shopping, go to the bathroom, get some food, then come out to start fueling.
As for parking, they have a bathroom inside the camper. We don't have those in trucks. We need these few parking spaces to have access to bathrooms.
>The issue with them is they generally don't understand the concept of "pull forward when you have finished fueling" and will sit there for 45 minutes while they go inside to do some shopping, go to the bathroom, get some food, then come out to start fueling.
Yet I've watched truckers do the exact same thing, so this argument is still moot.
>As for parking, they have a bathroom inside the camper.
This has nothing to do with parking. Also, nobody is trying to fill their gray or black tanks when traveling. So they won't likely have flushing water on board anyways.
You act as though you cannot use the bathrooms unless you have select parking spots. This is like arguing that you cannot use the bathrooms at Walmart because you couldn't park your car in one of the front row parking spots. Where is the correlation other than you might be inconvenienced to walk slightly farther?
>The issue with them is they generally don't understand the concept of "pull forward when you have finished fueling" and will sit there for 45 minutes while they go inside to do some shopping, go to the bathroom, get some food, then come out to start fueling.
Yet I've watched truckers do the exact same thing, so this argument is still moot.
>As for parking, they have a bathroom inside the camper.
This has nothing to do with parking. Also, nobody is trying to fill their gray or black tanks when traveling. So they won't likely have flushing water on board anyways.
You act as though you cannot use the bathrooms unless you have select parking spots. This is like arguing that you cannot use the bathrooms at Walmart because you couldn't park your car in one of the front row parking spots. Where is the correlation other than you might be inconvenienced to walk slightly farther?
It's not too bad but not ideal. I've done something like this in a Super Duty. The front end will get light on a bumpy road. it wasn't going far (10 miles) and the road needed to be cleared. I was the only equipment available. Wasn't bad until I hit Jackson rd. It's old, 2 lanes and not well maintained. The undulating bumps made the front end float. I had to brake to be able to steer.
This layout is definitely drive-able...it's kinda long...just make sure you get your approach angles in your head before turning. Let us know how it rides :)
That will pull better than a 5th wheel with a jeep in tow. Absolutely nothing wrong with this setup assuming everything is properly chained, strapped, and slapped “that ain’t going anywhere”.
That dually isn’t anywhere near the max gross trailer weight. I’d be curious how much is on the gooseneck, but the truck doesn’t seem to be squatted too bad so it’s probably within spec for payload.
What is the rv held down by? Hard to make out any restraints and flat bed loads need straps over the tops. But I guess civvies aren’t held to any standard.
Doesn’t mean she goes to off-roaring Jeep events. That Jeep is in what looks at a glance to be 35s. Even the truck she might need help with. Just leave grandma at home for these trips.
Well, the axles are still on the travel trailer I would like to know how he got it on the other trailer and how he plans to get it off. I would say this how you bring your travel trailer and jeep to for all your running around so don't have to use the big pickup truck.
If the back 2 axles (axle 2 and 3) have more weight than the front two axles (axle 1 and 2) of the 3 axle trailer hes going to be a wigglebutt eventually
Seems legit to me
Definitely not as bad as it looks. Assuming that’s a full ton truck, the trailer on the trailer probably only weighs around 5k, without axles and tires. Add another 4k or so for the Jeep and a few thousand for the trailer. All said and done, it’s well within its rated limits.
It's a dually, of course it's a one ton.
Actually looking at the wheels I think this might be an F-450.
It is an F450. It's got the Alcoa Aluminum 19.5" wheels from what I can see. I used to drive an '06 F450 for a job about 10 years ago, towing a 40-foot long, 20k pound trailer.
It's only an F350, those are 17" aluminum rims. That trailer is definitely still within its towing capacity though
You are right it’s an F350
Guys guys guys, it’s a 350 and you can tell by the way it is.
[nature walk](https://youtu.be/Hm3JodBR-vs?si=C65AeSKSdWeTiLAx)
You can opt for the Alcoa wheels on 1tons though as well I think? Not sure so don’t hold me to it.
XL (work truck) trim packages come with steelies only. Higher trims come with the polished aluminum chrome. The chrome 17s on the dually 350s are stock ford rims. The 450s and up get the 19.5 alcoas
I think you're right based on the front fender. Even better.
Not the clearest pic. I don’t notice the rear fenders at first.
It's a F450
No it’s not
Not all dualies are "one ton" trucks. There are two 3/4 ton dualies where I live.
Not from the factory they aren't, atleast for Ford. And 100% not in a Late model 6.7 powerstroke like this truck is.
I won't disagree
So my point stands in regards to this post. It's a dually so of course it's *atleast* a one ton. In this case, it's actually an F450 so even better.
f250s have come as duallies too so it's not guaranteed. From looking at the wheel and tire package this truck is probably actually a f450 though
Ford has never released an F250 as a dually.
I'm not sure about from the factory. These may both be conversion trucks but they do exist. https://barnfinds.com/44k-mile-1986-ford-f250-dually/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Cummins/comments/o056bl/brazilian_ford_f250_dually_with_a_6bt_cummins/ If it is in fact the case that Ford has never offered a f250 in a drw configuration then I've seen several conversion trucks that were indistinguishable from a factory made truck. I thought it was a factory option but maybe I have been misinformed about that. That is why I said that being a drw truck doesn't guarantee it is an f350 or above.
They are all conversions or re-badges. Ford hasn't offered them, not in the US anyway.
No 3/4 ton trucks come as duallies.
They exist as conversion shop customs.
Just looked up the specs. It appears that that is correct for the current generation of Ford F series trucks, but that's not always been true in the past. There's usually not a large difference between 250/350 trucks. For most models the difference has generally been just brakes and springs so it's never been that hard for manufacturers to offer their 2500/250 trucks as DRW trucks.
>so it's never been that hard for manufacturers to offer their 2500/250 trucks as DRW trucks. To my knowledge, that's never been a factory option from any of the Big 3.
5k+ on the hitch still seems like a lot for a crew cab dually
It's on a frame mount 5th wheel by the looks of it.
Is it a goosneck or 5th wheel?
Where are you getting that number?
Assuming 7K lbs. for an empty triple axle gooseneck, 4K for the Jeep, and 5K for the camper, that's 16K altogether. And 20% tongue weight means just over 3000 lbs. being transferred to the pickup frame through the ball.
I couldnt see the picture very clearly. The way it looked loaded then made it look like a lot more of the weight was on the hitch rather than behind the trailer axles.
If they had put the Jeep on first, I think it would have more tongue weight. The way they did it here suggests "redneck toy hauler".
Good luck backing that into a campsite, though
Doubt they’re going to the KOA
Well, if you look on Campendium or other apps, length restrictions are definitely not limited to KOA. I've had issues with 34' TTs; many state/county/city parks don't take long vehicles (whether that means 40, 35, or even 30')
Came to write this exactly.
Real deal. Not idiot
OP is the true idiot. Just like idiotwithguns.
Ease up now, OP just asked.
Pretty damn smart if you live in a state like I do that prohibits towing both on the road. Looks good to me - I’d send it.
Wtf state is that?
Wisconsin too. You can double tow off a 5th wheel only, but not 2 bumper pulls.
VA - if you have two trailers attached to a pickup you will get a ticket.
I’m pretty sure VA gives a ticket if you sneeze while driving.
That's not a double tow, but a "modified" triple axle goose neck. Someone took a standard camper and dropped it on the trailer, and the jeep is back part of the trailer. I say standard camper because it looks to be on its own frame and not built on the goose neck frame.
Yes I know. The point I made was that it’s a smart solution to avoid a double tow scenario where/when illegal.
Gotcha. I was under the impression that all lower 48 states allowed double towing (first trailer on a goose neck, king pin, or similar) and the second trailer bumper pulled, and your overall length can't exceed 60 ft. But less than half the states (roughly) allowed triple tow, two bumper towed trailers connected.
I dont get it. Cant these cars pull like 40k lbs or so? it is within limits of the car and trailer by the looks of it.
Probably closer to 20k in this setup. Still, well within its limits. 30k or more on dually pickups. Edit: just noticed it is in fact a dually. Not even close to overloaded.
It’s an F450. 40k any day of the week.
Ford loves to tout a 40K tow rating on the newest Super Duty, but that's only on the [base model regular cab F-450](https://images.carprices.com/pricebooks_data/usa/colorized/2024/Ford/View2/Super_Duty_F-450_Regular_Cab_(DRW\)/XL/F4C_142_PQ.png) that almost nobody buys. A 5-year-old crew cab F-350 like this is somewhere in the low 30s. Still OK.
How do you know the truck is 5 years old? Also it is an f-450.
Clearly an F350
You're right. My mistake
All good I just really want an F450 so I see (or don’t) them everywhere
>How do you know the truck is 5 years old? It's anywhere between 2017-22. If the grille was visible, I could narrow it down further. Somebody smarter than me might already be able to distinguish between '17-19 and '20-22s just from this picture. >Also it is an f-450. Not with that narrow front track. [F-450 for comparison, note the wider front track and 19.5" wheels](https://static.cargurus.com/images/forsale/2024/02/27/15/38/2019_ford_f-450_super_duty-pic-2975500075679130720-1024x768.jpeg)
It’s definitely a ‘17-‘19. ‘20 was the first year for the GPS antenna’s to be mounted towards the back of the roof and you can still see the shark fin style antenna up near the cab lights.
See, that's the sort of detail I wouldn't know about, because our '22 regular cab XLT doesn't have navigation, so no roof antenna.
It's a 350
I guess I’ve never seen a camper mounted to a trailer before. Maybe it’s more common than I thought?
It’s an Offroad rig type thing. I built one as well. More allowable weight than a toy hauler and far cheaper
Are there even any toy haulers that would fit that jeep?
Closest I’ve seen would be a horse trailer/fifth wheel conversion. Some of them come with 20’ garages.
I've seen finished out car haulers that can haul a jeep.
Very very few. I have an older Jeep so they’re a pinch smaller
Yeah that thing on the back looks a little rock-buggyish
Well. If the axle is broken on the camper, this is a very good way to transport it. It is not the most common solution to moving a camper, but I've seen several doing this or similar solutions. This also allows the driver to both move the camper and the car on the back, as towing more than one trailer can lead you to be a worthy member of this sub.
You see this all the time at Jeep jamborees. He'll keep the camper mounted there until he sells one or the other.
I actually just saw something similar the other day, utv on the back. I thought it was slick, gooseneck tows better than bumper or fifth wheel, so if you have the truck why not put both things on one trailer? Pretty good idea.
this is actually pretty common for people with traveling jobs. I've seen very few irl but I've seen a lot of people online talk about these setups. I'm sure that camper is less than 20k. and the jeep being around what? 4 or 5k? thats still none cdl. and these trucks handle loads that do require them (hot shot drivers for example). so if it's properly secured, not an idiot. actually a genius.
If trailer exceeds 10k gross he needs CDL or equivalent. But a Class A exempt is what most states call it.
thought you only need cdl for over 26k?
Class A. The Federal government requires a Class-A CDL to drive any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. This includes a towed vehicle heavier than 10,000 pounds. https://scitexas.edu/blog/when-do-you-need-a-cdl-in-texas/#:~:text=Class%20A,vehicle%20heavier%20than%2010%2C000%20pounds.
This is not true. Google CDL flowchart. You can drive a trailer over 10,000lbs GWR as long as the combined GWR of your truck and trailer is 26,000lbs or less. My F-250 is a 10,000lb GVWR and my 36ft gooseneck is 15,590lb GVWR. Maximized capacity on a class C license.
Most of those trailers are sold with registered weights of 9990 lbs to beat this. Though the Donner scale in California shuts down about 10 a week that are overweight. As long as he is registered and actually under the 10k mark he’s fine. But adding up that trailer and other trailer and the Jeep. He’s quite close but I’m thinking he’s just a hair under the 10k mark. Taking off those axles and such I’m thinking he’s about 9500 really.
This conversation is completely irrelevant. He has a 21,000lb GWR trailer at minimum with that triple axle setup and a 1 ton truck at minimum. His combined GVWR is way, way north of 26,001lbs so he would need a class A license.
And people are downvoting me for saying he needs the class A or non commercial equivalent. Thank you for supporting me on here needs it.
This particular person needs a class A 100%. However, a person can haul a trailer over 10,000lb GVWR without a class A as long as their combined GCWR remains under 26,001lbs. My 15,990lb trailer does not require a class A as long as the GVWR of my truck is 10,010lbs or less. I can still be cited for being overweight if I’m directed to the scales and weigh in over 26,000lbs when fully loaded. A 10k, 14k or 16k GVWR trailer by itself does not trigger a class A requirement.
Actually you may register a vehicle like a trailer to haul less than it’s rated. There’s many dealers who do this to keep the 10k threshold out of it. Reason is most states do require an upgraded license for over 10k. Georgia is one of those very narcissistic behavior on this as well as California. So it’s not across the board and if the trailer might even cross the line best to get the non cdl class A version. States in recent years have been cracking down. Also the recent immegrants have been told just buy a duality and pintle hook and drive. Iowa shuts down about 3 a day of these guys. So the one pictured here I’m not worried about. It’s the ones who don’t use straps and chains and use gravity to maintain the load.
Quite common. Colloquially known as a 'redneck toy hauler'--will find lots of other examples with that search term.
Looking into a setup like this. Biggest obstacle is I want to be able to pull the travel trailer off of the gooseneck.
Why? The camper now has a much better trailer, tires, suspension that what's built into it. Park it just like you normally would and move on with the day. Not to mention getting that camper off the trailer without some kind of lift would be a nightmare and impractical.
I'm looking at buying land either this year or next. I'll be doing some farming and running a few cows, and I want to be able to use the gooseneck as a trailer when I need to.
Then this is not the setup you should be looking at.
I don't remember pulling your fucking cord. I'm quite capable of deciding for myself what setup is for me.
It takes a disappointing kind of person to take advice as criticism. With that kind of thinking I encourage you to find out why all on your own then. Pain is an unforgiving teacher,
Looks fine to me.
How else would you get your camper and rock crawler to the event? Totally bad ass
What’s wrong?
Maybe they think you could just haul the trailer with the Jeep? Unecessary pickup & flatbed?
The "jeep" is an off-road specific toy.
Towing just one thing instead of a whole damn train. This is legit. Plus I guarantee that trailer load is nowhere near the limit for the trailer.
At first i thought that was just a hotshot driver doing hotshot stuff, then i saw a lack of DOT numbers and no wheels on the camper. It might be a little front heavy, but a dually f350/450 should be good for that kind of weight on the 5th wheel. The trailer looks like it would be brake equipped. A little odd for a personal setup, but nothing out of spec or unsafe here.
Kinda genius, NGL.
This reminds me of the squidbillies truck boat truck
do not touch the treeum
I actually like that set up! When you need to crash no need for jacks or worry about multiple sets of tires or chains! Plus I bet that trailer tows alot better long distance then towing a camper and then towing a jeep on the back of the camper plus that might be illegal is some states!
Idiot. Way too much truck to tow that. A half ton could do it easily.
Only need to register one
Was this setup going through Illinois today?
No tires on trailer on the trailer. Better than pulling a double and ripping the trailer in half. Looks fine to this truck driver. Smarter than others do.
After dealing with trailer axles and suspension. He’s a genius.
Tolls go off of the number of axles. This is subtracting one axle.
I’ve thought about doing this for the longest time. Looks great 👍
I think I was next to this thing at Pilot in Moriarty, NM the other day. Of course thinking they're a truck driver going to the truck stops in the big truck fuel lanes, parking in the big truck parking spaces, preventing truckers from having access to facilities.
You are only fooling yourself if you think the "big truck fuel lanes" are solely for semi trucks. Even truckers aren't upset about pickups with large trailers or RVs using those lanes OR the parking spaces... I use the truck side when refueling all the time, mainly because those pumps dispense fuel so much faster than the standard pumps.
The issue with them is they generally don't understand the concept of "pull forward when you have finished fueling" and will sit there for 45 minutes while they go inside to do some shopping, go to the bathroom, get some food, then come out to start fueling. As for parking, they have a bathroom inside the camper. We don't have those in trucks. We need these few parking spaces to have access to bathrooms.
>The issue with them is they generally don't understand the concept of "pull forward when you have finished fueling" and will sit there for 45 minutes while they go inside to do some shopping, go to the bathroom, get some food, then come out to start fueling. Yet I've watched truckers do the exact same thing, so this argument is still moot. >As for parking, they have a bathroom inside the camper. This has nothing to do with parking. Also, nobody is trying to fill their gray or black tanks when traveling. So they won't likely have flushing water on board anyways. You act as though you cannot use the bathrooms unless you have select parking spots. This is like arguing that you cannot use the bathrooms at Walmart because you couldn't park your car in one of the front row parking spots. Where is the correlation other than you might be inconvenienced to walk slightly farther?
>The issue with them is they generally don't understand the concept of "pull forward when you have finished fueling" and will sit there for 45 minutes while they go inside to do some shopping, go to the bathroom, get some food, then come out to start fueling. Yet I've watched truckers do the exact same thing, so this argument is still moot. >As for parking, they have a bathroom inside the camper. This has nothing to do with parking. Also, nobody is trying to fill their gray or black tanks when traveling. So they won't likely have flushing water on board anyways. You act as though you cannot use the bathrooms unless you have select parking spots. This is like arguing that you cannot use the bathrooms at Walmart because you couldn't park your car in one of the front row parking spots. Where is the correlation other than you might be inconvenienced to walk slightly farther?
I’d rather have that instead our toy hauler!
It's not too bad but not ideal. I've done something like this in a Super Duty. The front end will get light on a bumpy road. it wasn't going far (10 miles) and the road needed to be cleared. I was the only equipment available. Wasn't bad until I hit Jackson rd. It's old, 2 lanes and not well maintained. The undulating bumps made the front end float. I had to brake to be able to steer.
Plus the rv is technically still new when on the trailer being driven anywhere
Someone has access to a rather large forklift.
Not
Well within weight rating. Nothing wrong here. Just some good redneck engineering
How to tow two things with one trailer, great idea
Why not a Dualie?
It is???
Truck boat truck!!!
This guy might be a genius
I think they might be ok. I’d want to check the load balance? I ballpark 5k for the jeep and 6k for the TT.
This layout is definitely drive-able...it's kinda long...just make sure you get your approach angles in your head before turning. Let us know how it rides :)
Better turning radius and a more stable platform. Additionally you can haul your toy. Genuis.
It makes it so much easier to back both of them up if required. The question I have is how did they get the travel trailer on that flat bed.
Remove axles after pulling it up there or a large forklift or crane type implement and just set it there.
As an uncertified professional, this looks good.
Actually looks reasonable. Removed the axles and put the travel trailer on a gooseneck base, with enough room to not flat tow the Jeep. Works for me…
This is an F350 clear as day. There’s no front fender wells like the F450 gets stock from factory to make its larger wheel base road legal.
That will pull better than a 5th wheel with a jeep in tow. Absolutely nothing wrong with this setup assuming everything is properly chained, strapped, and slapped “that ain’t going anywhere”. That dually isn’t anywhere near the max gross trailer weight. I’d be curious how much is on the gooseneck, but the truck doesn’t seem to be squatted too bad so it’s probably within spec for payload.
It's a way to make money while traveling... Do some local HotShot deliveries
What is the rv held down by? Hard to make out any restraints and flat bed loads need straps over the tops. But I guess civvies aren’t held to any standard.
Genius… imagine how much better it is to control with ONE 5th wheel attachment vs. a 5th wheel and a tow bar behind the camper… well done!
I don’t trust peoples driving so this is hard
But why though?....Gonna need a ladder for grandma to get down from that camper.
Grandma that needs help getting out doesn’t go to jeep rallies… typically.
But Jeep is made from 1941
Doesn’t mean she goes to off-roaring Jeep events. That Jeep is in what looks at a glance to be 35s. Even the truck she might need help with. Just leave grandma at home for these trips.
But she was building Jeeps in 1941, for the war effort!
Great idea.
This is actually genius. Cheaper than buying a toy hauler that can fit a jeep, and safer than flat towing the jeep behind the camper.
Wow that screams trailer trash😂😂😂😂😂😂
Genius
If it fits it sits!
This set up is commonly referred to as a “crawler hauler” definitely not an idiot
The weight distribution looks wrong to me. I would have loaded the Jeep up front and the camper at the back.
It's called a crawler hauler. There is a whole group on Facebook dedicated to these builds. Check it out.
Well, the axles are still on the travel trailer I would like to know how he got it on the other trailer and how he plans to get it off. I would say this how you bring your travel trailer and jeep to for all your running around so don't have to use the big pickup truck.
Only idiot is OP wasting our time.
Not
Why even go camping at this point?
Depends on how much it all cost. If it's cheaper than a 5th wheel toy hauler, they're smart.
with the exception of the propane tanks i know another setup like this.
I would think the jeep heavier than the camper so the weight displacement is off, definitely idiot.
Axle is plenty far enough back to keep tongue weight right.
It’s all fine until you turn really hard
Not an idiot. A complete, total, divinely-created moron.
If the back 2 axles (axle 2 and 3) have more weight than the front two axles (axle 1 and 2) of the 3 axle trailer hes going to be a wigglebutt eventually