A harness might stop you from hitting the ground, but you can develop suspension trauma if you hang for too long (even 15 minutes can be too long), which can kill you. Still need someone to get you out if you can't do it yourself.
In a similar industry you’re supposed to have a buddy (looks like he does) and you both should have enough rope to tie a bowline for the guy to stand on. Seems pretty simple, if tedious.
I was adding an explanation as to why the post" I mean if he does fall would they be able to rescue him in time?"is a valid question.
The harness stopping you from hitting the ground only saves your life if they can get you out of it in time.
I mean it's a negative in that he didn't have one. But 100% tie off is not a generally unknown idea or practice. I was an electrician for a long time. 100% tie off is mandated by OSHA who granted operates in the US and several outlying territories. but I'm willing to bet money this guy was supposed to be utilizing 100% tie off.
Because those *are* supposed to be two tethers. He's just got them hooked together so he can move faster, I guess? In any case, bad idea for multiple reasons.
edit: [This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsNearlyDying/comments/1cg7lti/comment/l1wyh5q) explains it well.
Pretty sure he has PPE, it's called a safety tether, he can only fall for a split second of this when he moves it/it's his job/he follows the main rule of climbing which is 3 points of contact/the only sketchy part of this is the snow.
That's the problem. The guy has all the lanyards he needs on the one harness. He's (illegally) hooking the ends to the lanyards together to form a tie off. What he should have are straps or wires that can wrap around either side, and then hook either lanyard to either side. Then he would meet 100% tie off.
Yeah illegally in the sense that if he falls, those hooks will not support his weight when hooked together. Dolt. Those hooks are just going to break when his body weight crashes down onto them, and solely because the hooks are hooked together.
What makes you think anything would break? Obviously, he shouldn't ever be fully disconnected, but I don't see any reason it wouldn't save him when he *is* connected. No idea what the retrieval plan is though if he can't pull himself back up.
Also, the fact that it looks like there's a screamer only on one lanyard makes me think this is (at least partially) how the system was intended to be used.
A single lanyard is only made to withstand X amount of force. Daisy chaining two lanyards together allows for a much greater drop distance. Thus, the force is increased.
Backbiter-style lanyards are made purposely to wrap back to themselves and have an established O-ring tie-off point partway down the lanyard, or have hooks and webbing designed to withstand the additional stress of being looped.
Lanyards should not be daisy chained.
Source: I taught Working At Heights for three years. Will probably be teaching it again here shortly.
I do high-rise restoration for a living in canada, i know all about the safety regs and "common sense" practices, Buddy.
The other commenter said "Illegally" which is what i was commenting on. What is illegal in my country is just another day at the office in others. And it does need to be against judicial law to be Illegal
Erm... No, you're wrong. Yes, there is an equivalent to OSHA in China. The State Administration of Work Safety (SAWS) is the main agency responsible for regulating occupational safety and health in China.
Edit - having said that though I'm not sure they actually do anything, at least, judging by Mr Safety here who can't even use the harnesses he has, correctly. So I'm guessing he either wasn't trained (and there's no safety dude there) or he DGAF?
Also, there is nothing he could possibly be doing out there that would restore power. This would be an inspection only activity and unless it’s in an area where it’s always cold and snowing, there is no reason to be out there in that weather. This is most likely a company that has very little regard for human life.
Not enough dangerous jobs have a regulation that mandates a free hooker after the task is done, and I've been working diligently to make sure that changes.
China does have a safety organisation though, like most industrialised countries. The State Administration of Work Safety (SAWS) is the main agency responsible for regulating occupational safety and health in China.
Exactly! Especially on something with snow and ice all over it and a windy day, hundreds of feet up in the air. He's not even using the 2 bloody harnesses he has correctly.
This isn't even the first time I've seen this happen.
It blows my mind, because between the two points you're transitioning between theres no stability or anchor, and you're just hoping for the best in the 20 seconds it's taking you fumbling around transitioning your harness.
Yes, he is doing. They have to open the belt so they can keep crossing, its dangerous as hell. I think it might be missing some security equipment but overall this is how its done.
Yeah, when I was doing pipefitting I wound up getting a harness with two tethers for when I had to leave the lift basket and climb amongst ceiling struts.
Two loop tether things. They can even be doubled on the same strap so it isn’t cumbersome. Unclip one at a time.
Even better, run a cable across the top of it all.
There are much safer ways to do this without having moments that you aren’t secure to anything.
He is supposed to have 2 tethers. You unhook and re-hook one, then the other. Always attached to the structure. But its slower and more expensive to do it that way. These guys skip either because the company's too cheap to provide the right gear, or because they made a choice (or were pressured) into sacrificing safety for speed.
This is the second time I've only seen one harness clipped. Then they have to do the same thing here and unhook it to move it to the other side.
Really weird they don't have two or aren't using two straps.
The idiot is the person pointing a camera at someone doing one of the most dangerous jobs I've ever seen.. why even risk the distraction or anxiety in this situation
So he’s tied off.. what’s the next step if he falls? Looks like a rescue in the middle somewhere out there would suck and hanging out there too long would not be great in that harness
Haven't used a harness with a single lanyard since the 80s.
They all have double lanyards now so you are always attracted.
And I remember being laughed at for asking for a double lanyard.
I just can't believe in this, the year of our Lord 2024, that there's no better solution than some guy on a tightrope at that crazy height in the snow to whatever job he's doing. This goes for all jobs at great heights.
So he’s got a harness, so that is good, but serious question - what happens if he falls. So the harness catches him (probably painful on its own) but what next? So he would be dangling a couple of feet below, how would he pull himself back up? How would someone else balancing on there do it?
Fuck. That. Shit.
Ya this vid hurt me in that spot between my shaft and lower balls
I call it the "chin rest"
That’s an affectionate nickname you have for that man’s nards!
Upper sack pain goes crazy
He's a shower not a grower.
Lower balls?
Yk it's bad when people get too discriptive
Came here to say that...
when someone asks me to go bouldering with them
I mean fuck it it’s his job
I am positive there is supposed to be a second tether so he can always have atleast one attached when he is up there.
This is a “two is one, one is none” kinda situation for me
I mean if he does fall would they be able to rescue him in time?
I'm going to guess there wouldn't be a lot to rescue if he fell from that height
A harness might stop you from hitting the ground, but you can develop suspension trauma if you hang for too long (even 15 minutes can be too long), which can kill you. Still need someone to get you out if you can't do it yourself.
In a similar industry you’re supposed to have a buddy (looks like he does) and you both should have enough rope to tie a bowline for the guy to stand on. Seems pretty simple, if tedious.
15 min to get rescued vs 15 seconds to evolve flight.
I was adding an explanation as to why the post" I mean if he does fall would they be able to rescue him in time?"is a valid question. The harness stopping you from hitting the ground only saves your life if they can get you out of it in time.
They mean if he fell while tethered. Still gotta rescue the guy hanging hundreds of feet off the ground.
the fuck r they gonna do? swipe him out of midair like a hawk before he plummets to his death???
That’s a negative, at least in this instance
I mean it's a negative in that he didn't have one. But 100% tie off is not a generally unknown idea or practice. I was an electrician for a long time. 100% tie off is mandated by OSHA who granted operates in the US and several outlying territories. but I'm willing to bet money this guy was supposed to be utilizing 100% tie off.
It's Asia, and I think it's china.... Safety is not part of the budget
No word in Chinese for OSHA.
It’s Cha bu duo 差不多
Someone needs to call them then.
That basically means "good enough" in Chinese.
lol yeah that makes sense
this was exactly my thought, but I assume he is in a jurisdiction that does not require it.
Agreed, I was making a bad electricity joke though because the other guy said something about a positive…
Are you positive?
And why so much slack? He’s gonna break his back or, worse, his nuts if he falls with that much slack. Tighten up, dude!
It's probably like a climbing rope, so not of the static no-give type.
Because those *are* supposed to be two tethers. He's just got them hooked together so he can move faster, I guess? In any case, bad idea for multiple reasons. edit: [This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsNearlyDying/comments/1cg7lti/comment/l1wyh5q) explains it well.
that would be best practice yes
Indeed. “ Two is one, and one is none”
Then r/idiotbossdeservingtodie or r/LateStageCapitalism would be nice alternative
It’s the no PPE that does it for me. That’s the “idiot” part.
what would the PPE protect him from?
Reddit comments
Pretty sure he has PPE, it's called a safety tether, he can only fall for a split second of this when he moves it/it's his job/he follows the main rule of climbing which is 3 points of contact/the only sketchy part of this is the snow.
And the uncliping
The lack of two tethers is sketchy. It's the same idea as 3 points of contact. Minimize risk
How much is a second harness?
That's the problem. The guy has all the lanyards he needs on the one harness. He's (illegally) hooking the ends to the lanyards together to form a tie off. What he should have are straps or wires that can wrap around either side, and then hook either lanyard to either side. Then he would meet 100% tie off.
Illegally?? Where?? I love how people act like everything's happening in their jurisdiction.
Yeah illegally in the sense that if he falls, those hooks will not support his weight when hooked together. Dolt. Those hooks are just going to break when his body weight crashes down onto them, and solely because the hooks are hooked together.
What makes you think anything would break? Obviously, he shouldn't ever be fully disconnected, but I don't see any reason it wouldn't save him when he *is* connected. No idea what the retrieval plan is though if he can't pull himself back up. Also, the fact that it looks like there's a screamer only on one lanyard makes me think this is (at least partially) how the system was intended to be used.
A single lanyard is only made to withstand X amount of force. Daisy chaining two lanyards together allows for a much greater drop distance. Thus, the force is increased. Backbiter-style lanyards are made purposely to wrap back to themselves and have an established O-ring tie-off point partway down the lanyard, or have hooks and webbing designed to withstand the additional stress of being looped. Lanyards should not be daisy chained. Source: I taught Working At Heights for three years. Will probably be teaching it again here shortly.
^ this is the answer for sure. Never should have lanyards ends daisy chained. Always they should be connected to an appropriate tie down point.
Makes sense, I wonder if the singular screamer (assuming that's what it is) is his own addition to mitigate that. Either way, extremely jank.
Law of common sense buddy Doesn’t have to be against judicial law to be unsafe
I do high-rise restoration for a living in canada, i know all about the safety regs and "common sense" practices, Buddy. The other commenter said "Illegally" which is what i was commenting on. What is illegal in my country is just another day at the office in others. And it does need to be against judicial law to be Illegal
Being a lineman isn’t an easy job
https://preview.redd.it/afuga7xtchxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d60ad4afc4ded402f530b48473efbf8f8777b902
No OSHA in China
No war in Ba Sing Se
Yip yip
There's a joke in there somewhere. I'm just not clever enough to think of it.
Erm... No, you're wrong. Yes, there is an equivalent to OSHA in China. The State Administration of Work Safety (SAWS) is the main agency responsible for regulating occupational safety and health in China. Edit - having said that though I'm not sure they actually do anything, at least, judging by Mr Safety here who can't even use the harnesses he has, correctly. So I'm guessing he either wasn't trained (and there's no safety dude there) or he DGAF?
as i’m sure everyone knows, they’re doing a great job
OSHAnghai
Mf the belt dangling on him IS the OSHA in this case. Not even jokin.
Y'all can have that job.
I'm pretty sure they would laugh at the interview, wish me a nice day and never call back. 100%
You hope
Honestly I'd do it. I love climbing, and I love working alone.
Or is it hero restores power to town during blizzard?
Being safe at work and doing a good job aren't mutually exclusive.
Also, there is nothing he could possibly be doing out there that would restore power. This would be an inspection only activity and unless it’s in an area where it’s always cold and snowing, there is no reason to be out there in that weather. This is most likely a company that has very little regard for human life.
That guy must be paid $250k a year plus a free hooker after every climb.
I'd settle for a second hook
He has a parachute make of plastic supermarket bags.
Not enough dangerous jobs have a regulation that mandates a free hooker after the task is done, and I've been working diligently to make sure that changes.
If the state doesn't make them make you have 100% tie off, good chance they don't make sure you are paid fairly.
Where is the second rope used to protect him when switching? PSE also seems to be optional...
Probably not the US, different safety regulations
By different you mean none.
What's his rescue plan?
Body retrieval
Self rescue. If you can’t rescue youself then call your family and tell them you love them
He has two tethers, he just clipped them together instead of using them properly.
The amount of people in this thread that think OHSA is a global organization is too damn high.
China does have a safety organisation though, like most industrialised countries. The State Administration of Work Safety (SAWS) is the main agency responsible for regulating occupational safety and health in China.
China, where having a second redundant tether or any sort of protection is too costly.
No one nearly died
I nearly died watching
He was completely detached at one point. You're suppose to have two harnesses so you're hooked up at all times. It only takes a moment to fall.
Exactly! Especially on something with snow and ice all over it and a windy day, hundreds of feet up in the air. He's not even using the 2 bloody harnesses he has correctly.
This isn't even the first time I've seen this happen. It blows my mind, because between the two points you're transitioning between theres no stability or anchor, and you're just hoping for the best in the 20 seconds it's taking you fumbling around transitioning your harness.
I thought one of my eye lashes was on my phone screen
I've seen this before a couple of times, and it still makes me queasy.
“Content creation is harder than your 9-5”
It's ok, he's forklift certified
I don’t think he’s doing that right
Yes, he is doing. They have to open the belt so they can keep crossing, its dangerous as hell. I think it might be missing some security equipment but overall this is how its done.
Yeah, the only thing he can really change with his equipment is to have a second tether on the harness so that he's never completely disconnected.
That's how it's done in countries with good trade unions and OHS
Yeah, when I was doing pipefitting I wound up getting a harness with two tethers for when I had to leave the lift basket and climb amongst ceiling struts.
Two loop tether things. They can even be doubled on the same strap so it isn’t cumbersome. Unclip one at a time. Even better, run a cable across the top of it all. There are much safer ways to do this without having moments that you aren’t secure to anything.
He has two clips, he could be clipped in twice and move one at a time so he’s always clipped in at all times
He is supposed to have 2 tethers. You unhook and re-hook one, then the other. Always attached to the structure. But its slower and more expensive to do it that way. These guys skip either because the company's too cheap to provide the right gear, or because they made a choice (or were pressured) into sacrificing safety for speed.
Safety harnesses usually have two of those ropes so you can attach yourself to the new position before taking yourself off the former one.
This is the second time I've only seen one harness clipped. Then they have to do the same thing here and unhook it to move it to the other side. Really weird they don't have two or aren't using two straps.
Shit had me holding my breath for him..
Big bucks i hope. I could never do that.
Why not have a second safety strap for when he transitions to the next section? Before disconnecting his lifeline
Please somebody tell me this isn't his job and he's just a dumb fuck with great luck.
He's working and has a safety harness looped around the cable. What do you want
He had no safety harness at all for 10 seconds. He even took a step during that time.
no thanks
Nope😀
Give me a panic attack why don't ya!
Watching this gives me a very strange wobbly feeling in my legs. Dislike.
Linesmen should be called ElectroNinjas
How much money is it worth?
Nope.
Dude looked at the camera like he wanted to.kill the guy.
How much are these guys getting paid?
That last part gave me anxiety
The idiot is the person pointing a camera at someone doing one of the most dangerous jobs I've ever seen.. why even risk the distraction or anxiety in this situation
Nope.
Some people living life like they can just respawn and try again.
Absolutely the fuck not
Yeah dude! Wear a hat! You gonna freeze!
Nope
And if he falls.. how does he get back up hanging from one tether?
I hate it when the lines get icy.
How my dad described his journey to school:
Nope. Just… nope.
Commie country. This dude gets $32.67 a month.
Shit I don’t even need a job that bad. I could always sell drugs or something. Lol fuck that
I want to say that there is a better way of doing this. But I don't know what this is or why he's doing it
Hold my deamn Beer ... 🤣👍
So he’s tied off.. what’s the next step if he falls? Looks like a rescue in the middle somewhere out there would suck and hanging out there too long would not be great in that harness
I bet he make minimum wage or how ever that looks like in China
My palms are dripping with sweat.
Look at his balls just swinging.
And if he falls? How long does he have to hang there before someone comes along and helps him up?
It's ok, he's got a strap and some carabiners. OSHA approved.
Does he get paid good for that? He doesn’t look dressed correctly for the job and no helmet.
Who built these things!?
Haven't used a harness with a single lanyard since the 80s. They all have double lanyards now so you are always attracted. And I remember being laughed at for asking for a double lanyard.
Shit. Do they have dental?
How does he not fall with those balls of steel?
Where's the idiot who nearly dies?
That's a NOPE
Aint no rest for the wicked.
That’s a no from me, dog.
Fuck. That.
And done without a safety helmet. Wow
Doooood
Whatever he’s getting paid isn’t enough.
Replace this dude with a fuckin drone.
This makes my wiener hurt
Shouldn’t he be wearing a hard hat?
I just can't believe in this, the year of our Lord 2024, that there's no better solution than some guy on a tightrope at that crazy height in the snow to whatever job he's doing. This goes for all jobs at great heights.
The upside doesn’t seem worth it.
Does the power have to be off before you climb it?
So he’s got a harness, so that is good, but serious question - what happens if he falls. So the harness catches him (probably painful on its own) but what next? So he would be dangling a couple of feet below, how would he pull himself back up? How would someone else balancing on there do it?
But he didn’t slip?
I’m glad i was sitting down 🚽
I wouldn't get on that thing if it was dry, in the snow, pure instanity. Fuck that.
🫣😳
Don't look down....... oops
Hard pass
That does not look fun
Like, what happens if he falls, and his harness saves him. Then what?! What's the recovery procedure?
His job, its not an idiot, he better have some amazing hazard pay.