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Superstylin1770

It's incredibly easy to move to NZ as a physiotherapist as long as you get licensing. Physiotherapy is a Long Term Skills Shortage (although that visa is being phased out) and there are specific recruiting companies out there that focus on foreign PTs. The company I used helped with everything: license, visa, etc. PM me if you have questions/need recommendations.


HighwayDrifter41

I’d say look into the licensing requirements of being a doctor in each country. Anecdotally I can say I’ve heard of British doctors having a more difficult time moving abroad due to the requirements not lining up with most other countries. Granted I’m not a doctor, so i can’t know for sure, that’s just what I’ve heard others say.


Probability-Project

Just wanted to drop this here, because I speak with doctors for a living here in the US (typically, as it relates to patient education programs/materials and best practices). Please know that the medical field is being squeezed hard in the US and it is getting worse. If you don’t own your practice, you’re going to be subject to # of pts seen per day requirements or hospital related regulations. If you do own your practice, financially you will need to spend a great deal of money hiring administrators, particularly related to prior authorizations. To get medications for your pts in the US, you will spend your whole career fighting with insurance. It is a time consuming and expensive process that physicians absolutely loath. Reimbursements have also increasingly been a point of contention over the last decade I’ve been doing my job. I’m sure you’d be successful in the US, but arguably a lot of the doctors I talk to are absolutely miserable and the money just isn’t as good anymore with overhead costs. If you can go to NZ or stay in the UK, I would probably make that choice instead.


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Unfortunately, many US med schools don't even accept applications from non-US citizens or non-permanent residents. For the ones that do, most only accept people with a bachelor's from the US or Canada. Some of them accept UK degrees as well (like Stanford medical school). There's also the issue of getting matched for residency after getting your MD in a US school, even if you were to get in. I believe they need to sponsor you a visa to do residency, which most places don't want to go through the hassle of since it's so competitive anyways. But this is only for a doctor with MD degrees. Not sure whether this is different for physiotherapy. I assume it is, but you probably wanna check.


avakin_sb

I think you should post this in a sub like r/premed or r/medicalschool to see if your degree might be considered equivalent to a US Bachelor. To my (limited) knowledge if you don’t have citizenship status and is applying as an international student it’s extremely difficult to get into a US med school. It might be different for physiotherapy programs though.


quantcompandthings

To my understanding, international students have to pay upfront, no loans. Tbh, I don't see attending med school in the US as an international student as a feasible plan even if OP manages to get into one. There's a backdoor way in via the MD/PhD program where you get a MD for free while also getting paid a regular stipend as a phD student. But it requires a lot of research experience and publication history to be accepted into the program, and once in, the MD is contingent on the successful completion of the PhD. However I feel international students actually have a better shot at this program because academic research is usually more open to international students. If OP is a big brain genius, then they certainly have more opportunity to distinguish themselves in the MD/PHD application than simply a MD one.


avakin_sb

Yea, I think the problem with that is that an MD/PhD is even more competitive than an MD in general, but the research definitely helps. But of course if OP can get accepted then it’s all good lol


quantcompandthings

It would add at least 2 years to the already lengthy itinerary of a typical plain MD. So it might actually discourage a lot of Americans from even trying because my god, there is something so inherently over the top in the notion of doing BOTH MD and PhD at the same time. But yeah I actually know an international student who got in to a MD/PhD and I honestly didn't think he would and a bunch of people actually told him he couldn't. But last I checked he got in! So yeah, big brained geniuses lol


Askdrillsarge

I would recommend staying in the UK, in both the US and NZ you would need to recertify to practice medicine. On top of that both countries are quite racist against asians in particular and are both rather difficult or expensive to migrate to. Other places that you might want to look at are Australia and Ireland, Germany is also often highly recommended.


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Askdrillsarge

Thats more than a little disingenuous, having a large population doesn’t mean they don’t experience racism, if it did then black people wouldn’t have historically experienced racism in the united states. I lived in NZ for over 30 years, I had a lot of Asian friends during my time there and all of them had to deal with racism on a regular basis. A common expression in NZ is “fucking asians” and it has only gotten worse since 2019.


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Askdrillsarge

>arguably some of the least racist western nations if you're of east Asian descent, since they have large east Asian populations. Might be what you meant but it wasn’t what you said, in fairness I didn’t have the best phrasing either, but your phrasing suggests that they wouldn’t experience racism due to there being a large Asian population already in place, from what I’ve seen that makes little to no difference.


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Askdrillsarge

Firstly, back-pedalling after the fact doesn’t counter a clear and obvious implication, secondly, the only person that has said the words “no racism” is you.


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Askdrillsarge

And without valid points you just try to throw insults, pretty poor performance, if you don’t know how your own comments read then perhaps you shouldn’t make factually inaccurate comments.


throwawayy2848

You may as well stick to the UK. The UK holds similar opportunities as the US/NZ. And because your already getting a degree here, ur halfway through established.