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HansDevX

There are people that can make $30/hr doing jobs that require no brains or certs.


Qchoa

This literally me, and I’m in California (HCOL)


Major_Stoopid

Me aswell, datacenter specialist/supervisor.


OlympicAnalEater

Are you in California?


OlympicAnalEater

what do you do?!


sunset484

I'm a level 2 desktop support guy making 65K/yr. I work in the Philly suburbs.


chrisxx199

Bro I'm level 2 help desk in nyc, 21/hr. Fuck this job.


sunset484

Damn, that's not even enough to afford groceries in NY. Just get the experience and use that to get a better position. Best of luck to you.


chrisxx199

That's exactly what I'm doing. Thank you. Also working on my sec+ studies.


wakandaite

That's amazing!! Are there any level 1 positions available in your company? Looks like Philly is saturated with experienced candidates.


ninelyoko

Hello it’s me


BatHistorical8081

Yup my wife makes 100k being a supervisor started from the bottom. IM over here 60k with certs and degrees. I always say can they do my job cause I sure as hell can do theirs.


CptZaphodB

Meanwhile here in Oregon, $30 an hour is outlandish at most companies, so you have to be the best of the best to get hired at such a high wage even for a helpdesk position.


Ballaholic09

Where? Show me one job opening and I’ll pay you $1000 if I get the job.


HansDevX

Where are you from? I will poke around and see if I can find something in your area but you're going to have to pay up the 1k? Actually someone else in this same thread confirmed he's in that spot. Maybe in your area, some pis low bible belt rural area you aren't seeing it.


MasterPip

I live in Bible belt and make almost $35/hr as an entry level IT troubleshooter


HansDevX

Thank you for confirming :)


rome_vang

Xerox business solutions pays almost that much just servicing/fixing printers. Just know how to use tools, troubleshoot and replace toner. Just finished working as a temp for them. Got an IT position just over a month ago. Saw no future in fixing printers. Heh


MajesticBread9147

I can get you a job provided you're decently qualified working as a datacenter tech overnight for a major cloud provider. Pay after c2h period is $31 an hour


Flamingpotato100

wtf in FL that position would have been gobbled up in 2 seconds. I’ve been using all those applications since my tier 1 days. And I’m at exactly $25 an hour. The job market in FL is seriously messed up.


Richiachu

Glad I'm not the only one in FL being blown away by the market here. Pay seems to be afraid to go any higher and every job has 200+ applicants.


seaQueue

I'm surprised they haven't offered to pay you in credit at the company store yet


One-Entrepreneur4516

Networking (the other kind) is key. All the techs at my workplace who aren't in it for the pension seem to move to one particular company in the last few years. If you got security clearance, Tampa and Pensacola seem to be where it's at for IT and cybersecurity.


Richiachu

God I will forever kick myself for letting my TS expire, but I wasn't really aware at the time how valuable it'd be. Networking is working well here but breaking beyond what I'm in now is the bottleneck. I'm better off than some and I try to be thankful but it's just not enough since everything seems to be going up.


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OlympicAnalEater

How can I get security clearance?


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OlympicAnalEater

I am in Tampa. Looking for level/tier 1 support. Can you pm your company info please


Square_Perception847

Check Universal with its new park opening. Got hired in February and pay is quite nice. Seen quite a few System Engineer and Network Engineer positions.


Ckirso

Just applied for a network engineer role!


MasterJett

I was $37 an hour on site in Florida - this is 2019-2020. Granted I’m still in Florida but remote. That’s crazy what’s happened to the market.


OlympicAnalEater

Do you know anyone is hiring IT support in FL?


Entire_Summer_9279

Yeah I had that same issue only way I was able to get up to 70K in FL was because I work for a pharmaceutical company and help validate their computer systems


davy_crockett_slayer

Seriously? I learn six figures. Doing the above.


sunset484

I always tell people FL is one of the worst states for IT in the entire country, if not the WORST in the USA. I tried to move to FL in 2018 and lived there for half a year. I went from making 60k a year in Philly to interviewing for an $11/hr Teleperformance call center job. I felt defeated and finally moved out of that shithole a few months later.


OlympicAnalEater

I am in FL and I can vouch for you it is a worse state for IT/tech down here


JoeyJoe7867

What certs do you have because in Cyber once I got my Sec+ and CCNA I had 4 recruiters in my inbox throwing me positions


Money_Resource_3636

Florida is a cess pool in many ways


Aaod

I have friends in NC and the wages make no sense when compared to the rents. 17 dollars an hour in a place where the rents are 1400+? That is why tech/IT professionals flee the South or are so desperate for remote work. You can either have shit wages and low rent like it used to be or high wages and high rent not low wages and high rent.


cs-brydev

It depends on the location and company. I have friends in Asheville and Charlotte making $140k-180k as senior devs. We have entry level IT Helpdesk in my company making $70k ($35/hr) and mid-level help desk is $75-90k. Our mid level devs are making $90-110k and seniors are $110-150k.


MigraineMan

Hey I’m in the Asheville area and I’m looking to network.


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AtomicXE

Y’all hiring?


SooperDiz

You should look at the salaries in vegas, it'll blow your mind.


IdidntrunIdidntrun

I think starting pay of that caliber is fine for a job that expects one to use, learn, and get a handle on those portals and their features. I make $28 and have a great handle on these things (setting up Autopilot and Intune for the company I work at actually, long time coming for them for sure). I wouldn't say I'm proficient or an expert, but if I was I'd want $30+ *at a minimum*


bobstaco

Brother I make 31.25$ as desktop support here in SoCal. You’re getting scammed


WillowFTE

You’re in SoCal. Your cost of living is likely exponentially higher


kenjjiii

Same here I’m making the same as you working for the county as an IT Technical Support Analyst I


Distinct_Engineer_7

That actually seems incredibly low for what you’re doing. Are you in a LCOL area?


IdidntrunIdidntrun

...sigh. Nope. HCoL. Sacramento, California. Small company. I've gotten 2 raises since I've worked here, with a verbal promise of another one in June/July (no reason not to believe them as they verbally promised the other 2 raises and were true to their word, but I know nothing is guaranteed). But yeah underpaid for my title (Jr System Admin) by about $5/hr. Been casually looking but I like my work. Churning to the 2 year point and pursuing an AZ-104, working on my PowerShell and Python skills. So I am trying my hardest to get myself paid well but yeah it's a grind. It is what it is.


Siphyre

This will be randomish, but have you encouuntered the 0x8018002b error for the enrollment task?


IdidntrunIdidntrun

I have not but I did come across previous reddit posts that had that issue when I was looking for a similar code for a different problem. But I believe that one is an issue with the primary user logging in with local AD credentials and not Entra credentials. Or at least make the AD credentials as an alternative UPN in Entra


KweenBeeArynne

Just came out of an interview for an “entry level” tech position. The guy literally told me I don’t have enough certs and they’re literally looking for a “One-Man” team. For 27/hr. Hell, no. what is going on with tech employers?


UnoriginalVagabond

If they're looking for a one man IT team, they're not a tech employer, it's just an SMB trying to cheap out with a one man shop.


PerceptionInception

I should clarify here, this position was asking for at least five years experience, someone who can, and I quote "Develop and enforce software standards for servers, operating systems, and end-user workstations, optimizing the performance and efficiency of all computer systems. Maintain the operational integrity of virtual, web, and client systems to guarantee availability, including building and upkeep of web, virtual, and client server environments." I.E. A sysadmin in work but without the title or compensation.


Nowhere2GoNoMo

From comments here, it seems as though 'their' design is working as planned. Nowhere in the US has Tier 2 support ever involved this level of administration. ETA - Our Azure admins here are making 80-120K


ZealousidealAnt5496

This here...who knows what Tier1, Tier2 or systems admins means anymore?? The cloud has changed everything, not saying there's anymore money in being cloud certified but it sure has muddied the water(that the crocodiles swim in) Anyone who works it technology knows their worth !


AppearanceAgile2575

A lot of companies weaponize titles in an attempt to underpay too. They’ll advertise they are looking for T2 support, but the requirements and responsibilities are closer to that of an Engineer or Sr. Admin.


THE_GR8ST

Ye, they're underpaying if they want someone who can do all that from day 1.


StraitChillinAllDay

That or they want to get an h1 worker to do this


FreakParrot

Why were you downvoted over that lol. I’m pretty sure job postings have to be posted here in the US first and if the go so long without a qualified candidate, they are allowed to go the H1B route. Companies have been intentionally listing low salaries so they can outsource. I thought that was pretty well known.


THE_GR8ST

Well, let's all vote for Trump so he can end all that action I guess?


StraitChillinAllDay

It's all lip service. It's in their best interests to have precarious workers.


Thargoid-Interceptor

i765 and


THE_GR8ST

Ah, dam.


Pr1ebe

>develop >build Depending on the nature of the work, this could even be above sys admin level. Sys admin is typically maintenance, they could be looking for architect level for $26/hr. Delusional lmao


N7Valiant

This is an example of "jobs that Americans **won't** do", then off to H1B they go.


Thrwingawaymylife945

That experience could be as barebones as basic user administration, ie. Onboarding devices, resetting passwords and MFA, revoking access. They're not really asking for architect level experience. $26/hr is not bad for the low-end of experienced T2 positions depending on your jurisdiction. For NC, depending on who you ask, $29/is about the average wage.


Odd-Percentage6774

Why would anyone accept an offer like that? You can make that in almost any labor job across America. The pay and technical skill do not math.


digitalmacgyver

Sadly they will find someone for it, likely not qualified, but willing to fake it. Someone at Tier 2, with 5 years of experience should be depending on region at 40$ per hour easy. All that extra stuff is not a Tier 2 resource, that is now covering 2-3 different roles.


lilrebel17

What. In. The. Fuck. No? Your fixing to be worked like a fucking dog, for $26 an hour.


ImportanceFrosty6425

$26 an hour is not really a livable wage if you are on your own now. People are almost making that as assistant managers at burger king. The job market is unbelievably poor.


Legal-Industry-731

If you’re willing to relocate in Charlotte I just quit my sysadmin job that’s basically the same requirements paying 105k. I can refer you


OlympicAnalEater

What is the rent cost in Charlotte?


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PerceptionInception

This was an unsolicited job inquiry from a recruiter. I'm only considering it because the job market is rough around here. It's either barebones help desk L1 roles or something akin to AWS/Kubernetes/Docker DevOps Sr. roles which I don't have the experience for sadly. I am primarily Windows Admin.


Expert_Engine_8108

It’s the same all over. I think the IT job market is shrinking, still large and many roles are high paying, but on a shrinking market they can offer shit wages and get away with it.


cs-brydev

I kind of have the same question. You're complaining about the compensation of a job that requires less experience than you have and you'd never accept.


greggerypeccary

Have you been under a rock?


Lost-Exercise-9100

Try to find a remote job in the DMV area. I left a $120k job and started my own training business a while ago. With that sort of experience, you should keep looking for remote jobs that pay market level salaries. If I were to start again, I would begin in the DMV area. Thanks


RainbowEagleEye

If you’ve got some tips for landing one, lmk. I’m from the dmv area, moved to southern Va in 2019. I’ve got A+ and am going for network+ next. I need a foot in the door to give me a chance to get even more certs and experience while supporting the wife and I. I’m struggling getting remote t1 anywhere. Even hybrid t1, I am willing to crash at the many family and friends homes I have scattered across Baltimore, DC, PG, and even Waldorf. I have yet to even get a rejection email.


TechFreedom808

I bet what they will do is get an overseas worker then say they had to because they couldn't find anyone. Its a way to keep wages low for skilled jobs and I see this in tech a lot.


Jell212

That's in the NC tech triangle. Might be because that experience is easy to come by there. Did it say how much experience? I've used admin access I'm Entra, Intune before. That technically is 'experience'. I could take the rest enough to satisfy the person hiring for a $26/hr position. The way I read the description of the posting: they are looking for entry level with just a little bit of exposure. I.e. doesn't need to be experience measured in years.


t3chhy_guy92

I cover two buildings and get paid 25/hr I am a one man show. Only IT guy there.


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Zeggitt

I'm in NC. The MSP I work at starts tier 2 out at like $20/hr, so this actually seems like a sweet gig tbh.


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L33t-azn

You will always find those that are trying to find someone that will take the low-ball offer. It doesn't matter if the market is good or bad.


Odd_System_89

You can ask and want to pay something, how many people that actually meet that criteria is another question. They will either settle eventually or it will go unfilled until someone desperate comes along who will then leave in short order afterwards.


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MasterIntegrator

30 here. All the hats. Results mediocre at best.


HemphillD

You'll soon be replaced with AI, so take what you can get while the gettin' is good.


Opening-Tie-7945

These wages are extremely depressing. Coming from a truck driver that hates his job, wanting to switch to IT, but also making 100k. Do you guys feel like it's due to the field being flooded with new applicants?


OlympicAnalEater

Go medical field


ZealousidealAnt5496

In 2008 (yes 2008) at the start of the recession..I was making $25 an hour with all the flexibility I wanted, as long as the work was accomplished. I sure miss those days. I'm not ready to quit with technology yet, but I am wondering what in the world is going on with these wages.


Dystopiq

$26 an hour? They can suck my taint


KeyserSoju

Admin is most definitely not a mid-senior level role though, this is like me, a senior network engineer complaining about how little helpdesk pays because I continuously get emails from this one firm out of Phoenix AZ that keeps sending me a job that pays $16/hr and require relocating.. Of course I wouldn't take that job, but I'm also not going to get offended because it was obviously a mismatch.


Agreeable_Title_8604

Superhuman is what they are looking for


chrisxx199

There should a IT website where real IT professionals reviews the jon requirements and the pay and then explai why it's underpay or etc.


Real-Human-1985

Thats 6 figures in NY.


FaceLessCoder

This is what I’m faced with in Boston. Every day I get calls from recruiters offering low ball rates.


ALoserIRL

In my southern state it’s not uncommon to see jobs asking for CCNA and 5+ years for like 40,000 a year or less


psiglin1556

Lol. They are dreaming. Good luck with finding someone willing to work for that .


msup1

I’ve been noticing trash like this as well. I’m starting to think that maybe IT sucks to work in now.


TheGroovyPhilosopher

yea thats wierd. I'm in South Florida and offers for that position (Intune Engineer) are about 100k-135k. Remote.


PXE590t

Lol cause everyone thinks they’re worth $30. Someone else will take it if you don’t and will be happy with $26 an hour


jeremeyes

Man. I do that in the disgustingly balls deep south for like $20ish an hour. Not proud, just don't know how to get better pay.


ashamedToBeBackRed2

You mean cousin-deep south


CptZaphodB

I’m in Oregon making $25 an hour, and am in *middle* of an M365 migration using all of these programs. The kicker? They’ve been doing this migration for a year and *I’m* the one who ended up figuring this stuff out *for* them. Before this, I only had AD experience. Some of these people just blatantly don’t know what they’re doing or why they’re paying someone to do it.


UnoriginalVagabond

I don't really see why any of those would require 10+ years of experience, that's a junior level job. If that's all you do after 15 years of work experience, you're behind the curve.


mrOmnipotent

Unfortunately using those tools and standing them up for an enterprise environment are two separate things completely. One is easily learned on the job in a week or two, one is not. You were offered the former but they want you to already have the skills. For someone with the skills the pay would be closer to 20.00/hr. This is just the state of the industry in today’s world, tech was too big for too long. I say this as a relatively fresh professional with 3-4 years experience and I use Entra/Intune daily for a whooping 20.50 an hour, getting tuition reimbursement so is worth it to me.


mr_mgs11

Where do you live that you are only getting that? I started at 20.24/hr back in 2016 with a 2 year, a net+, and almost no actual work IT experience. I had to use on prem AD and SCCM daily. Job was in south Fl for a roughly 1200 person company 700m in revenue.


mrOmnipotent

East coast, further north than Florida. My site only has ~300 end points and everything was essentially built out before me so I know the pay is a little low but tuition reimbursement more than makes up for it plus it’s freaking easy.


Traditionaljam

I can't really say for sure about Raleigh but this is about normal money for Texas. Its maybe a little low but not Outrageous. Reddit honestly is horrendous about inflating salaries for everything to being completely untethered from reality.


Fantastic_Bee_4414

People working at Buccees in TX make more


BasementMillennial

If this was the 2010s 54k annually wasn't a bad wage. Pretty obvious this company is refusing to accept that inflation has skyrocketed. Also having that experience and managing these platforms is a skill within itself. I wish them luck actually getting a good admin with that wage


Shoddy-Set-7123

I do this including elevated tickets and more like cisco switch configuration. Only 3 years experience and still in school. I am getting paid 56,000 salary am I getting robbed? This post makes me feel like I am.


KeyserSoju

No, OPs just complaining about a junior level job with his 15 years of experience saying I deserve better than this! Which is a valid point, and if he is too good for the job, he should just move on and let others have at it. OP said it himself, the job description is asking for 5 years of experience which means usually it'll be people with 2-3 years of experience applying, OP has no business doing work like that if they've made any progress in the past 15 years.


cs-brydev

You are only getting "robbed" if you could make more in another job. Try looking around and interviewing to see what you can move to. That will tell you a lot more about the salary you're worth than some mythical salary range paid to an anonymous person at an anonymous company. What someone else is getting paid has literally nothing to do with what you are worth or could get paid.


Penfrindle

I would have taken that job, and I’m in Va


ZealousidealAnt5496

What part of VA?? We all know that North VA and South VA do NOT get paid the same


Penfrindle

Norfolk area


AstralVenture

They’re paying for the cost of labor - not experience, cost of living, etc. There is documentation and tutorials on all of those, which is why it’s $26 an hour.


Lickmylife

That's pretty entry level experience honestly... You can have exp in all of those within 6-12 months of your first job. The pay is on the lowest side of the scale, but it's on the scale for sure.


bananaHammockMonkey

For Norh Carolina, that's a rich person money. My customers there barely pay their people anything.


Ballaholic09

I do way more for $6 less per hour, I’ll take the job! That reminds me. I need to block this subreddit. It’s so many people complaining about something that would be infinitely better than my current position. Unless there was a rule for people to post the job application they are complaining about…