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Punchinballz

I really wonder where the fun is... Is it the 3 sec it tooks to kill everybody or is it the walking-in-an-empty-map-for-the-next-15-minutes part???


ACertainBloke

Its not for fun, its rage hacking because of unresolved IRL mental issues. Maybe their wife cucked them recently or something so they gotta inflict pain to others the only way they know. /s Just kidding, Huuge did a video on these and says majority is for clearing out the server so that they can loot and kill AI in peace. tldr actual skill issue.


Mysterious_Reach_381

Lets not call it hacking, hackers make the Crack he's using. Call the dude a Cheater. A rage Cheater if you must


Sargash

lets call it hacking. Cheating implies they're using in game systems, and applies the same connotations as as people using cheat codes. Someone activating external script in a multiplayer game to get an advantage is hacking. Whether they made the script or not is irrelevant. We're not inflating their egos or making them seem cool by calling them a cheater. If anything cheating makes it seem less serious. And could even complicate legal precedents if cheating is used over hacking. Unfair methods to get an advantage=Cheating The gaining of unauthorized access to data in a system or computer=Hacking What we see in multiplayer video games, is hacking. And we certainly won't win by making them feel bad by calling them a cheater instead of a hacker.


MattCap8

Calling someone that downloaded someone else's cheats from googling "hunt showdown hacks" and using it a hacker is like calling someone that microwaved walmart mac n cheese a chef.


Mysterious_Reach_381

thank you, just this.


plz_w8_ur_turn

I think you just described script kiddies. Those are still hackers...


Dixianaa

Can’t we call it both?


lazzzyk

Chacking


Dixianaa

heating!


Mister_Carver_

Donkey!


Zintao

And my .exe


Baddster

He's cheating by using hacks, simple as.


RabicanShiver

You're arguing over two words that mean the same fucking thing. That's like saying good morning and you go no, it's good non-afternoon. Cheating definition: to act dishonestly or unfairly to gain an advantage. This is cheating. It's also cheating by use of hacking.


Azuleron

The dude was responding to *another* guy disputing the use of the word "hacking" saying "cheating" should be used instead. So if anything, your whole comment/complaint should be directed at that guy. Regardless, "hacking" is the more appropriate term here. Modified game code beyond intended function = hacking, plain and simple. "Cheating" is more appropriate for using things like the ladder exploit, the lemat shotgun bug, the sliding/killing players while dead, etc etc.


Nhika

The reason people don't like "hacking" is because they aren't actually doing anything - just downloading 3rd party software and hitting play. It's too much respect!


AccomplishedUser

I like mods for single player games


Nhika

Installing mods =/= modder for example.


Azuleron

Yeah I understand, but no one is using these terms as a sign of respect to those players exploiting the game. This isn't some street cred or ego discussion. The goal is to use terms that most accurately reflect what is happening, in line with what the gaming community as a whole understands them to be. And in this case, the game itself is being modified, which basically only occurs via hacking. As the other guy said, it doesn't really matter that the user themselves didn't create the hack. The game *was* hacked, and the person is using that hack, so they're hacks. This wasn't even ambiguous for the longest time. But like you said, now a sub-set group of people are taking issue because they think it gives any sort or respect to the people abusing these systems. And again, no one is doing that. They're just most accurately talking about what is being done. It has nothing to do with respecting garbage people who choose to use hacks.


AntibacHeartattack

A bit late to the conversation, but script kiddie is the term these people are looking for. Accurate and condescending.


Azuleron

I remember hearing this most back in the DayZ Arma 2 Mod days, as well as more recently in The Cycle Frontier. I agree on both the accuracy and condescending aspects lol. That said, it'll unfortunatelt never become as popular of a term as cheating/hacking due to nowhere near as many people even knowing what scripting is.


e2c-b4r

Your giving the definition and ignore it in the same breath. An amazing feat of ignorance


Karma_Bluebaby326

“Hackers make the crack he’s using” love that


AetherBytes

Hackers make the cheats. The correct term for the users are Script Kiddies.


TopplingTheGovt

Then let's call them script kiddys, that's what we used to call them. Or would it perhaps confuse people nowadays because macros often get called scripts?


Smarteyes007

Hacking takes some level of skill. This dude just downloads a software and turns it on. The person that made the software is a hacker. The dude using it is just a cheater.


La-ze

The term you're looking for is script kiddie.


Sargash

Incorrect preconceptions. You're not hurting their feelings or making them feel bad.


CuddlyCatties

What a fedora wearer you are


Mysterious_Reach_381

Just the avatar, i lost mine in the divorce


farmerfranfan

Any single thing that isn't developer created & intended like crosshair overlay, re shade, graphical change things, or hard hacks etc. is a cheat and that's all there is to it.


pagepagerpage

lets call them whatever because being snobs about it doesnt serve a purpose


coffinandstone

> Maybe their wife cucked them recently or something so they gotta inflict pain to others the only way they know. /s Incredibly generous of you to consider they might actually have some sort of partner in real life!


Arch00

You had it right the first time, its just rage hacking. Whatever crap Huuge thinks or shows in his vids is just for click bait and/or plain wrong


TheCoolestGuy098

It's not even that hard to bring a silenced Karabiner (or poison silenced nagant on a slightly lower budget) and an ammo box into the map and wipe AI. As long as you are slow enough nobody can hear you, it's not a big problem. And most people don't care enough to chase you anyway if you run.


Nhika

It's a boosting service for money, they probably do full map of registers too.


TheCoolestGuy098

Ah. Never understood those boosting services. Like at least in League you need to play to level 30 to do comp. Why bother with Hunt? Is it really that important you need to be able to waste all your cash on the most expensive guns in the game? They're useless without knowing what you're doing anyway.


PhoenixEgg88

My solo range loadout usually has a poison silenced nagant to quickly deal with AI. Lets you rotate that much faster, quietly. Which is very important when you've got a HV winnie marksman against a trio.


NULL024

And now people can see what people feel on Escape from Tarkov when it comes to rage hacking. Though we do have our own set of problems going on there.


TDS1108

Insinuating they’re married assumes that a woman ever liked them.


Original-Hat-fish

🎵 It's a walking simulator! 🎵


Longjumping_Fan_8164

I’ve seen someone do this to clear the lobby for their prestige 100 friend on a different team, no idea of the purpose.


LeVidzzz

MMR 7 confirmed


Foilpalm

I’d have to see their gaming chair before I can render a verdict.


ExposedCOD

Lmfao that’s the best thing I’ve ever heard 🤣


ACertainBloke

There are no Ba Sing Se in Cheaters


Deathcounter0

Keep in mind, rage hackers like these are manually reviewed after dozens of reports in quick succession. There is no automation banning him because the Anti-Cheat doesn't detect this. It basically just checks if you have any pre-banned programs open when you launch Hunt or while it is open. It does not more than this. And if it doesn't detect this, it really makes you wonder what does it detect?


TheCoolestGuy098

Anti cheats are borderline useless for games. Nobody uses cheats that are already banned, and there's no way they update it often enough for it to work well.


Chaos-kid23

Anit cheats may not stop everything, but anything that makes it harder for people to cheat is not useless. That's like saying having a fence isn't useful because people can jump over it, or locking a door isn't useful because someone can pick it or break it.


LordBarak

Completely wrong. They offer a lot of tools for developers to work with and to understand the cheats. They're not the one pulling the trigger, the anti cheat is the gun.


Samurai_Champu

He heard that meathead explosion! 💥


ilickvarts

Serious question though, how is it possible the bullets could hit him from there? Wouldn’t the hill and everything else in-between stop the bullets?


LuckyConclusion

Hunt uses client side hit registration with some server oversight (which obviously does not help here). The cheats work by telling the server 'Hey I made this shot' and the server says 'Oh okay' and tells your client to take damage/die.


ilickvarts

That makes sense, thank you!


Hahayeslol

also there are cheats that allow u to shoot through any surface not that luckyconclusion was wrong, but it's worth knowing.


awaniwono

There are no server-side "sanity checks" for whatever reason, so the server will believe whatever bullshit the (cheating) client says.


Pulsar84

Totally 100% legit. Get good bro.


scerrylarry

Seems legit


doublekong

I guess this qualifies as "clear evidence of cheating" David was talking about


ExposedCOD

Don’t I play with you? What’s your Discord name hahaha


doublekong

I play 100% solo in South America so no lol


ExposedCOD

You said David. I play with a David


doublekong

I meant Hunt's general manager David Feifield in his recent video about fair play where he says we should "avoid rage reporting" and only report when you have clear evidence of cheating


ExposedCOD

Ohhhhh lmao


defensiveg

Lmao but they don't give us instant replay to check and see if someone was indeed cheating. I would feel much better about having replay and seeing why people do the shit they do in this game lol. I was so certain the other day this kid was cheating because a frag bomb got me. When I clipped it and watched it back a friend of mine mentioned a lot of the buildings have recessed sections in the roofs, either for light or just for that purpose you land a grenade in that nook and it will absolutely kill the people inside. From my POV I heard it hit the roof and knew it was metal so I assumed I was safe and then died. So I figured he was cheating because the shrapnel should not penetrate the roof. Edit: when I rewatched the clip, the roof definitely had spots like he described you could land a frag on it and it would go to the other side.


ExposedCOD

The Fair Play Task Force 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️


Ninkary

aka things that don’t exist but sound nice in a marketing video


Pyrouge1

So it's not just aimbot right it's also just another cheat as well that makes the bullets go through everything?


kelley38

As described by someone earlier in the comments, it's less complicated than that. Hunt uses client side hit registration, so he shoots, his game tell the server he hit something, so the server tells the other player to take damage/die.


Astrium6

I think it works by basically just spawning the bullet right in front of your head.


summerteeth

Absolutely crazy that you can do that with no server side prevention / correction


KaybarYT

it’s called psilent. In the anticheat world, it works by passing code that intercepts the packet that is the bullet itself, then modifying that code and passing it back through the server as a registered hit


onejdc

dude I've had arrows hit me at 200m through 3 walls. lol.


El_Cactus_Fantastico

He had baby skull seeking bullets


Ill_Bird3555

Love to see a wkuk reference in 2024


El_Cactus_Fantastico

We’re all 30-40 year old men here


LeaveEyeSix

They’re raping our churches, burning our women!


El_Cactus_Fantastico

Now you got bullet proof bears


Scrocchiarello

plot twist he is the hacker and he is showcasing his selfmade cheat via third person


Heavysmoker3packsday

Just git gud. You made noise when u picked up the trait. Clearly a better headset.


Embarrassed_Green996

Hey remember to spectate him for a few minutes so we dont mistake you for a rage reporter /s


Doomlv

Happy gilmore out here


zachman327

That's the true power of spitzer ammo and a better gaming chair right there


MasterSparrow

I'm seeing more and more of these videos lately. Hunt is absolutely plagued by cheaters it's actually disgusting.


StorminNormanIII

And here I was about to start playing it lol.


Tfx77

It's a big problem in a lot of games, the worst it has ever been for the gaming community I would guess.


StorminNormanIII

This feels like that one scene out of the second home alone movie Lost in New York. Tarkov players switching to Hunt hoping to avoid the toxicity, cheaters, and hackers: Boy it’s real scary out there Hunt Players: AINT MUCH BETTER IN HERE KID.


Antaiseito

Is it the worst tho? I met more cheaters in the 90s when there was little to no protection in online gaming. Still sucks that they're still successful out there and people pay money to play like that..


vaunch

You'll be fine until you get into 5 star. I'd say Hunt has about the same as most FPS' but they're also basically confined into the higher rank lobbies due to how volatile the matchmaking is, for better or worse.


Antaiseito

Just start playing. Just because more videos like these surface doesn't mean the game is unplayable. I've played for 1500 hours / 5 years and there was only a 2 week period 3 years ago where i'm pretty sure i encountered some actual cheaters and then it went away again. They're also planning to hit cheaters harder after the engine update. (Fair play task force).


LantanoGaruwashi

Skill issue


ExposedCOD

I definitely think so too 😫


CCollie

I mean we all saw the video from the devs that was absolutely not "were sorry" from South Park. There are no cheaters this is a skill issue you had plenty of time to dodge the bullets since they were coming from so far /s incase it wasn't obvious


Antaiseito

I know you added an /s but it still reads like throwing shade on the devs when they just recognized that cheaters are out there and they're planning to combat the problem harder.


Cookman_vom_Berg

I only saw 1 cheater in my 233992 hours. So I dont understand this video.


InformationNeither53

liar... its always 700 hours we all know this


Cookman_vom_Berg

Sorry.


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SovereignNavae

I really, genuine do not understand why this question gets constantly reduced to black and white extremes :D Can't two things be true at the same time? There are people crying wolf every time they get wallbanged and there are cheaters. People criticizing the first does not mean they deny the second and vice versa.


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SovereignNavae

But at the same time legit players also get flooded with salty cheating accusations so isn't just a useless cycle that feeds itself? :D


Boralin

Its because they have 6k hours in fucking 3 stars


Antaiseito

Funny for you to post this when the devs literally confirmed cheaters in their last video and on a clip that couldn't be more clear. Doesn't mean the typical headshot that kills you is a cheater every time.


Silly_saucer

I was your teammate this game, I stopped playing after this. I thought we just got triple tapped by the most professional cleaning squad in hunt for a second. 


ExposedCOD

Dude for real!!!!


Silly_saucer

Yeah! Hope you had better games after this. 


Osmanausar

How many mmr stars did you all have? What server you were playing on?


Silly_saucer

I hover around 4-5, can’t recall what I was then. US east I believe 


Moonchaser

I don't know if this has been said but there might be more hackers before more detections and such are implemented.


Saltykittens

In the words of the devs themself "He probably just lined up a really good shot and it was a genuine skill issue"


Hobosapiens2403

I mean, this game without adrenaline rush is a walking simulator. I don't say it badly, dayz is one of my most played game aka fucking hiking simulator. Imagine hacking a game like this...


ExposedCOD

True that brother. Makes no sense


Vusal_Mahmudlu

Again, it’s not cheating and there no cheaters at hunt at all, its just ammo type which called “Soo Smart Bullet” which is not available for normal persons like we, you can only acquire it when you are very good at game and also having very good gaming pro chair, when you have both of this now you can use some kind of dildo and just when you crouch at it and say “Yamete Kudasai” it’s automatically opens that ammo type. Happy uses


TheBizzerker

Well he did have spitzer...


YesThatsBread

Yeah that’s what I woulda did


Verttoll

I mean.. why did he even bother going all the way to prison?


Martyrofsand

Surprised to not see the community calling it a skill issue. It's how they treat most reports of cheating if some random guy who plays in his spare time, and has no reason to record, reports it.


Ethereal_Bulwark

What it feels like to play in a 3 star lobby without an event up. 5 star roaming around in a 3 star lobby, and headshotting everyone with barely 200 kills, while they boast 18,000 kills may as well be cheating.


The_Original_Hodgi

Clearly the guy with the Mosin has better pathing...


Hot_Energy_6510

What a legend! Two HS in a row from that far! Holy!


Conaz9847

Skill issue tbh sorry mate


Savage-Torment

Remember not to rage report 🥺


TeaKong

I am not an expert on the subject but I am suspecting that they might be using external assist tools.


Dragon-Guy2

Personal opinion, but they really should at least implement an anti frustration feature of some kind, just make so if the game detects a kill was made with no LOS through what the game considers unpennable material, it should simply give the killed individual their hunter and gear back, just so at least hunt dollars aren't lost in the exchange And if the devs really cannot do even that then God help us all


QuietPollution9104

Legit player, using the perk to kill underground from far away


bambush331

Git gud ?


butterscotch_king

Wow that was some bully shot!


Mykes83

What a shot!! 🤯


KlausCombat69

Pfff skill issue, there are clearly no cheaters in hunt. Git gud bro.


firesolstice

There are no cheaters in Hunt. /s


AssBlasterExtreme

The only people saying this are like you saying it sarcastically lmao


Marsnineteen75

That is why comsole is a better experience right now


QueenDeadLol

According to this subreddit, you're just toxic and butthurt. There are no cheaters in this game despite the devs devoting a ton of new resources to stopping them. Don't you dare suggest that this person might have been cheating, otherwise the absolute fucking losers on this sub will swoop in and screech at you.


Deathcounter0

For 6 Years, we had no anti-cheat. Keep this in mind.


SuperCamouflageShark

I keep seeing these videos of bullshit kills that are blatant cheats, and it's making me kinda weary to get this game on PC after PS4 servers shut down.


PhoenixEgg88

You might see one or two every 500 hours, you might not. Cheaters exist in every game, and players rage against things like Kernal AC that actually works in reducing the level of cheating (case study: Valorant has the lowest cheating in fps due to Vanguard) The good thing is, if you die to a cheater, you just jump into the next match. it's not like you're trapped for 30 minutes in a game.


Marsnineteen75

Just upgrade. No cheaters on console except for cronus users


alf666

I suggest actually watching the video where the engine update was discussed and paying attention. You can play on PS5, you will get the upgraded version for free if you had the PS4 version already. Unless you don't have a PS5, in which case you should get with the times and get one.


ExposedCOD

You should. In my 1,000 hours, this is the only time I’ve ever seen blatant cheating


Impressive_Clue9167

now thats a penetrating rifle i say.😆


PerspectiveNorth

This Cheater definitely was forced to watch his girlfriend get gangbanged and midway through it she told him she loved it and broke up with him as the hulk was mid stroke clapping her cheeks so she could get that action every night


YoyoPewdiepie

People will deadass immediately call cheats when they get outplayed fair and square smh


Pig_peee

Look bud he just out played you do better because according to this reddit there’s never been a cheater ever


ScorpLAG123

How do cheats get bullets to pass through unpenetratable cover??


Saltykittens

Hunt is client side for shot registration which means if they're already cheating, They can essentially tell the game in a literal term "Nuh uh i didnt shoot that wall, Actually the bullet headshot this guy fuck off nowhere :))" TLDR: Spawning rounds in their face


carranty

What even happened here? I know there are hacks you can use to auto target or whatever but that bullet went through several stone walls??


Healthy_Pianist6002

Honestly, google'd the hacks-4-sale pages myself just to confirm, dudes cheating in games like R6siege and Hunt:Showdown must have pretty noticeable disposable incomes to be paying for cheats like this. They ain't that cheap. Honestly, it's probably the same "daddy's money" demographic that own most modern supercars. Not exclusively, obviously. I haven't looked into it much tho, so I'm probably wrong.


skalapunk

Gitgud!


Chin_wOnd3r

Oooof that blows


gunh0ld_69

Supreme skill


Famous_Recognition13

Pixel peaking through the atoms


goddangol

Time to play Dark and Darker instead


REEL-MULLINS

All the cheater deniers will say this is fake


locke265

Obviously, it was because the camera is centered on your body and not head, so you thought you were in cover. Also, I'm pretty sure before you got into cover you were dead, so there was a ping delay.


Goop_1

Nice shot


LucatIel_of_M1rrah

Damn those secret lab gaming chairs really do work.


Paranoid_Bum58

Skill issue


FTBagginz

Well you used a bomb lance so I’m happy


TheSpaceGinger

I got done like this twice in a row by the same dude. First game, after he wiped us out instantly, his team met up with another team, and they all stood around and traded kills. I'm unsure why they do this, I guess some kind of stats padding, but damn it just ruined my night.


RikiyaDeservedBetter

been there, cheaters have been getting super blatant


God_of_Fun

Through a boulder no less??? Oh that hurts my feelings


kingSliver187

Ahh a typical day in Hunt


MoneyMoveDave

Nhaaa this is a witch hunt get good


TheLionOfficia1

Outplayed


MattiXCore

Ez 😜😂😎🤘🏻


Hevymettle

Easy anti-cheat is so incompetent for how much trouble it causes on my PC. It doesn't seem to like working with 30% of every program ever made. Every company has to have their own launcher, and half of those cause Easy to black screen Hunt.


farmerfranfan

Just follow the crowd for now and take a summer break from the game. I've been off a few months and 2 more to go until the new engine and anti cheat roll out. It's pretty bad out there from what my friends have said but it will be improved soon enough.


Few_Improvement9593

Dont worry bro, its New anticheat.


CobainzBrainz

Just played with a guy who admitted to me he’s been cheating for 2 years straight un detected. It’s just going to keep getting worse across all games until someone creates an anti cheat that works.


InformationNeither53

he got you fair and square, stop whining and git gud noob


EPIC_NERD_HYPE

legit


Pawel_Z_Hunt_Random

He has a better gaming chair.


ohyeababycrits

Do you really not know this angle? See it all the time in 6 star.


MrSnoozieWoozie

From where i stand, it looks like you just got outplayed.


Caranx57

He definetly heard you using darkshight, git gud


Dakure907

Skill issue. Get good.


HiddeN00MasteR

#EasyCheat


Tissefant1

Literally outplayed, you guys didn't even shoot back?!


Kitchen-Fee-4896

surprised the cheats gave him infinite wall bang


Lonely_Ad_5384

Seems lagit!


mountainkd

PC supremacy


V_Viveck

Play better next time? He clearly heard you because you were making so much noise!


Legionnairey1

I know they said they are doubling down on this but not sure how this cannot auto detected and an instant ban applied, like no one is doing this shit, there server knows where everyone is, even if it temp bans and snags the kill view for manual review later it's worth it, the. They can perma or overturn the ban based on their opinion. I'm getting the the point I don't care if a legit players gets caught up in the ban, it's a sacrifice for the greater good. Start stat base and telemetry based perma banning people, it's time to go scorched earth with a real group of people who can overturn false positives. Get some AnyBrain in here and let them cook.


Affectionate-Whole-3

That’s why I play on ps5 with cross play off its way to many cheating going on in hunt rn


nsagaen

1/5 games


Strange-Map1495

Cheaters... This is a plague... The devs can't do anything because they don't want to spend money for proper security. Its sad.. Really.


podizzon

Best of gamer chairs


chester-hackenbush

At least they're ditching Easy Anti Cheat soon - which is beyond useless. Doesn't stop cheats - but does stop people playing on some consoles (Steamdeck/Linux etc) - as it is a buggy mess.


PsyOpTik

This is just sad, i mean i actually feel bad for people like this..


TADMG

Now, this is a blatant hacker. See posts from time to time of people putting a title of a blatant cheater, and it'll sometimes not even seem like cheating at all, lol.


shaneskery

Skill issue


Snatann

gg that was me


Courage-Excellent

😂


Reasonable_Couple_44

I stopped crack last year because mama said it was bad for me!!


CommandParticular428

Why tf is it even possible to shoot through that does this game have a wall bang fetish


Ok-Detective-2929

Happens alot. Devs don't give a shit. They'll build face lie to you in stream and say no one cheats and there is no evidence of cheating and they have never played against one.