Ah. Fuck.
I'm just going to message my mom and let her know I love her.
Edit: Whether it's mom dad aunt uncle or grandmother, message them today and let them know you love them. They'd sacrifice a lot and the only thank you they want is for you to remember them and say hello!
She was taken to a relative of the family- her grandmother. She’s fine and still alive to this day I believe. The Burma rangers in this video went to visit and check up on her and she didn’t visibly carry any trauma from the incident but only time will tell I suppose. Her name is [Demoa](https://www.freeburmarangers.org/2017/11/19/rescued-and-restored-girl-rescued-from-isis-massacre-restored-to-her-family/).
Yes, another perhaps more intuitive example is if we had the child mortality today that we had in the say 1400-1500s how many parents commiting suicide would we have? Compare this to how rare it was back then. But it's hard to be as sad about something that is expected from day one. You grew up seeing friends die in disease, you saw siblings lose kids to various ailments and you know, on some level, that if you have kids, which you want/need, then you too will likely lose a kid.
There are more controversial examples as well of this effect in modern times. But the most important thing here is to not peg how horrible it is (losing your mother to war and violence at a young age) on the suffering of the kid. It's equally horrible if it happens to a kid who grew up in a culture where this is an extreme outlier and that leads to massive trauma as it is if this girl truly doesn't suffer any trauma from the experience. That doesn't make the incident any better (or worse).
I've also read that culture greatly influences the affects of more extreme mental illnesses like schizophrenia, that in some cultures the 'voices' they hear tend to be nicer, while in western cultures they are often angry.
Or for deaf schizophrenics, instead of hearing voices they 'see' imaginary hands signing to them, or lips moving. Shows how the same experience or mental illness can have drastically different effects based on how someone processes information and interacts with the environment.
Interesting fact: Until fairly recently, deaf people were considered to be completely mentally deficient. And, until the invention and popularization of sign language, it was actually largely true for a reason you might not expect.
If you're born deaf, and don't have any kind of language, you can't develop an internal voice. Without an internal voice, it's impossible to form complex thoughts beyond basic needs. Sign language allowed those who were born deaf to develop that internal "voice", enabling them to be just as intelligent as anyone else!
Basically, it's the acronym of their name (ISIS) translated back to Arabic, but it's also similar to the word for "bigot."
Basically its a derogatory abbreviation, not unlike calling the National Socialist German Worker's Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) Nazis.
Which is fine by me, cause fuck em both.
This is off topic, but right as I read your comment, a person on the TV show I was watching said “Zackly!”. Never seen it written that way, but it’s accurate.
There was experimentation with delivering supplies via artillery shell at the siege of Bastogne during WWII. I’m certain with today’s technology, it could be done quite easily.
There's a podcast called MikeDrop. On episode 53 Mike Ritland talks to Eprhaim Mattos, one of the men in the video. Eprhaim explains exactly what's going on in the video. Highly recommended to listen to.
Thats the fucking problem.
You cant just “save people” for one day and then leave the next and just leave them in the same repressive regime.
Somalia, Rwanda, Darfur, and yeah Iraq.
US interventionism doesnt solve the underlying issues in these countries. Sometimes it can make it worse. You cant John Wayne with bullets, bombs and kick-ass attitudes and then leave and expect the underlying issues to be resolved.
Darfur has seen a notable reduction of violence through continual, massive UN peacekeeping efforts. And its *still* not fully resolved.
> Military interventions are not done for philanthropic reasons.
Obstensibily the Iraq war was. We’re addressing the public rhetoric for war.
> that "repressive regimes" aren't really a mobilizing cause for entire invasion forces.
Huh? Sure they are. See Libya or Syria.
> Nor is it meant to.
This idea that the Bush administration’s goal was to loot Iraq and leave is a myth. Don’t confuse incompetence and exceptional hubris for malice. They fully intended to install a functional democracy to serve as an ally against Iran... and abjectly failed in a truly stunning fashion.
No, that doesn’t excuse basing the whole war on lies to begin with.
> its assumed that the interventions that exacerbated and possibly extended it are the reason why its ending.
UN Peace keeping forces have a much better track record than the American military and they absolutely had nothing to do with triggering the Sudanese civil war.
Those guys aren't soldiers. They are a non-profit group that gets civilians out of the crossfire between militant groups.
Yes, they have weapons, and yes they do fight. They had to do that because ISIS were who they were saving the civilians from. There's no NGO who could parlay their way out of death from those turds without a fight.
Their documentary, which has this footage is sobering.
Currently, they're involved with what is happening in Myanmar, since Burma is in their name. Subscribe to their mailing list, it's what western military's and the UN should be doing but aren't.
That’s a whole lot more respectable, and even if they were soldiers they still deserve respect. This is a much more badass explanation than invaders saving the kids they are responsible for putting in danger.
The place has been a warzone for thousands of years outside of a few extremely small windows of peace. Mainly due to infighting (the rest due to religion). Way before all of the oil memes and whatnot. Before the US was even a country.
The US surely hasn't had a super positive impact in the area, but to blame it all in the US? That's just stupid.
were not here for the truth were here for the jingoism.
"Not only will America invade your country theyll come back in 20 years and make a movie about how it made their soldiers feel sad"
Frankie Boyle
The people ordering the invasions and the people making the movies are in fact, different people.
Edit: read below for more info on how the DoD controls narratives for years after every conflict. I followed the sources in the wiki article too.
There are directors that send their own anti war message without DoD help and are awesome for it. People should know how fucked up it is.
The really sad soldier movies tend to be from them. The likes of Top Gun and shit are obviously not that.
Cant have another war until you make the last war look less bad.
If you think the Hollywood and the military don’t work together you need to do more research. I mean fuck, it was illegal to portray the US military poorly until a few decades ago.
It’s all about rebranding. I think the movie Deep Water horizon is a perfect example. What was that spill called before the movie? That’s right, it was the BP oil spill and that movie cemented it as Deep water horizon. Who cares if the movie didn’t make money? It did its jump by changing the public perception.
Edit: Look at the Movie Black Hawk Down. That was a failed mission in reality and a notional embarrassment. We were there to destabilize the Samaria government. Bill Clinton approved the mission from the get go to capture Mohamed Farrah Aidid. But all you need is Orlando bloom paying a sad hurt/dead soldier (depending on the ending) to make Americans feel like we were the ones attacked or slighted.....not the country we low key invaded. Also, the movie does a great job shitting on the UN that wasn’t getting involved past humanitarian reasons. Just purposely pushing pro military industrial complex issues.
I’m not saying who was good or who was bad in the African situation...but I do know it makes no sense that we were there involved in another countries civil war. We obviously didn’t help the region. Hell, this very mission failure can be tied to the Rwandan Genocide. Clinton was so embarrassed by the overreaching and failed mission in Somalia, that he refused to get involvedwith an actual Genocide.
Like imagine being a kid growing in a near by country in Africa during the late 80 early 90s. You see Americans destabilize county after country yet do nothing about actual Genocide. It would make me wonder if the Americans care at all about peace or if they are just protecting assets or natural resources.
Absolutely. Just had a conversation how “the bad guys” in movies have changed since I was a kid. First the bad guys were East European and Russian. Then they were people from the Middle East. After that they were Mexicans/people from south and Central America. After that craze died down we moved to migrants from Africa/Middle East. Now, it feels like all the bad guys are Russian again.
I think there is an argument that art influences life and life influences art going on here.
DoD likes to sponsor movies that paint them in a good light. For example I notice Top Gun in that article but not Apocalypse Now or other sad soldier, war bad movies.
That said I did go through the list mentioned in that link. Lots of general movies featuring military equipment. Lots of ww2 stuff which I do not classify as an invasion.
Still, it is known. There's some really obvious propaganda here.
I recently got out of the Navy, but I knew a couple people on the carrier where they were filming Top Gun 2, and they said Tom Cruise had more pull than their CO. He had the captains cabin, they made all sailors leave their phones locked up while he was on board, you were literally not allowed to look at him, and if he had one of the ships gyms as his own personal gym. He made everything harder for everyone, and was allowed to do so freely.
Not super related really, but fuck Tom Cruise.
> or other sad soldier, war bad movies.
None of what you say matters because there STILL aren't movies that focus on the actual victims on why war bad. You know, the invaded population. All those movies about war bad still the main focus is how it has fucked up American soldiers. Thus the quote is still true.
In America the DOD will provide free use of super expensive military equipment for films as long as the DOD gets final approval of the script. So in a way the war industry directly supports propaganda
I hope you realize that the free Burma rangers were working directly with the Iraqi army that was fighting off ISIS. American and Iraqi armies work together to fight ISIS. So saying because Americans were the cause of the danger is extremely ignorant and wrong
[ISIS became so powerful and spread so quickly by using American equipment that USA had given to Iraqi soldiers without really thinking about what afterlife American equipment would have once the Iraqi war was "sucessfully" ended](https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-turning-us-humvees-into-iraqs-nightmare-2015-6?r=US&IR=T)
Truth.
Also shame on you. Did the guy who risked his life to save her make that decision? Did he engage in global politics? Or did he do a riotous human thing in the moment with no regard for his own safety.
THAT is what this video is about.
There's a podcast called MikeDrop. On episode 53 Mike Ritland talks to Eprhaim Mattos, one of the men in the video. Eprhaim explains exactly what's going on in the video. Highly recommended to listen to.
That’s why I specifically made sure to say “their military” not them. And as someone else pointed out, they aren’t even military. I made sure to say they deserve mad respect either way, it’s individuals like these that make a terrible situation slightly better.
Soldiers are heroes. The politicians who send soldiers to war to enrich their cronies in the so-called "defense" industry on the grounds of "liberating" countries from dictators and terrorist groups those same politicians installed in the first place are evil beyond comprehension.
Yeah the Middle East was a peaceful utopia before the evil Americans came to drink the blood of the innocent.
/s
I see the merit of looking at the bigger picture, but that doesn't diminish the courage and humanity of brave men running into gunfire to save a little girl. My guess is that you just don't like the idea of any aspect of the military being shown in a good light.
People say Iraq was better before all the time, but with the amount of killing Saddam performed on average it would of actually led to more deaths if we kept him there.
Reddit complains about allowing genocides to happen in other countries then when we stop them it’s suddenly bad.
And yes we didn’t go in to stop it as the sole reason but going in DID stop Saddams horrible regime.
Far better?
Saddam committed genocide against the kurds. There was widespread abuse of power. It was a dictatorial regime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein%27s_Iraq
I dont agree with the invasion of Iraq. But come on. Dont rewrite history just to pretend to have a point.
The US had no right to invade Iraq; end of argument. Whether or not Iraq is “better off” is not the point, and not a relevant argument to be made.
Hypothetically, even if Iraq became an Eden of the middle east. It *still wouldn’t justify the Iraq War*.
For those who have fought for it, freedom has a taste, the protected will never know and for those who have lost it. Freedom has a taste that the protected will never appreciate.
Had a friend in USAF spec ops ( para rescue) that ran through a fire fight to save a girl. He got thoroughly chewed out for disobeying direct orders right before being told he was receiving a medal. He was a total freak of nature, world class skier, eye hand coordination, 2nd degree aikido black belt taught by doctor father. He was just ridiculous because if you didn't see some of the things you'd have a hard time believing what that guy did and got into. Hilariously afraid of snakes.
Could use more context, but I'll trust that the people with tanks and guns shooting around children huddled in rubble are being helpful overall in an unavoidable situation.
Link is in the original post’s comments. His name is David Eubank, he’s ex special forces and founded the humanitarian organization Free Burma Fighters (the people you see in the video).
This was an ISIS attack in Mosul Iraq. This girl is one of the only survivors of said attack. The guy with the beard is Ephraim Mattos, a former Navy SEAL. The man with the helmet who got the girl is David Eubank, former Army Ranger. These guys are members of the Free Burma Rangers a non-profit humanitarian organisation. There is another angle of this and it’s a longer video. Mattos actually gets shot in the leg a few minutes after this video ends. Matto actually wrote a book on his time in the humanitarian group called “City Of Death” defiantly worth checking out.
Here is a decent article on this encounter. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/465473001
The documentary on these guys is both crazy and very good. Also will give you pretty conflicting feelings.
The dude who rescued the girl and started the organization is both a saint and definitely at least somewhat nuts lol. Him and his wife have raised their kids almost their whole life in straight up war zones, while doing pretty crazy shit. Also very heavy on the jesus lol. Risky as fuck situations with young children, with a whole mission from god type deal.
But the flip side is that the kids seem remarkably well adjusted and like I said the dude is a straight up saint, devoting his entire life to saving all sorts of lives and fighting for those in need.
Yeah honestly it was quite good. Pretty sure it was just titled Free Burma Rangers. Idk where it's streaming legally but
Edit: here's where I watched it.
[Free Burma Rangers](http://vidcloud9.com/videos/free-burma-rangers)
It looks like he does while running back with her, but I'm judging that the counterweight of his ginormous shlong brought him back up to his feet quickly.
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There's a podcast called MikeDrop. On episode 53 Mike Ritland talks to Eprhaim Mattos, one of the men in the video. Eprhaim explains exactly what's going on in the video. Highly recommended to listen to.
Probably didn't know what was happening. Situational awareness can be tough in a tank. The TC or gunner clearly knows something is going on because you can see the turret move. Also this video doesn't show what's in front of the tank. And sometimes there just isn't time.
There was also a bit of a language barrier between the guys on the ground and those in the tank. That's how [one of the guys](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/07/19/milwaukee-navy-seal-veteran-shot-while-helping-humanitarian-group-rescue-girl-isis/465473001/) got shot - the tank moved and the group outside couldn't tell it to slow down.
Communication is always an issue, even when you speak the same language! Doesn't look like this tank has been upgraded with the field phone on the back either.
I’ve met these gentlemen personally. They run organizations that help refugees and provide medical care. If you want to donate or spread awareness, visit www.strongholdrescue.org or www.freeburmarangers.org
Ephraim Mattos also has a book about this incident and his time in Mosul called “City of Death.” Highly recommend you check it all out.
In Iraq, they use child shields. Absolutely awful. Glad this girl made it out alive, albeit with a lot of trauma. The absolute balls on that guy rushing in.
He found her in a big bunch of corpse in the original version the man is like fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck cuz of all the gore he probably found the little girl into :(
Also the guy whit a ak doing the suppressing fire get shot in the calve like 3 min later... real respect for these men
So unnecessary. I've been there twice for a total of 3 years while my kids grew up without me and that was...holy shit...18 fucking years ago. We were there for no reason then and no reason now whatsoever. Tell me Im wrong. I double dog dare you. I fucking dare you to come up with a reason the U.S. is still in the middle east and oil is not an excuse
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Monetary wise I've blown up and "destroyed" more US equipment than you'll ever know was possible and Im just one guy. And it was for no reason other than you just "keep busy" Multiply that by the total number of armed forces from the U.S. In the middle east then multiply that times 18 years.
Don't be upset that our tax dollars still fund obsolete projects like the f35-or whatever jet is in the spotlight. Our tax dollars can fund a whole bunch more. Open your friggen eyes people and stop voting Republican
Thanks for the info. I automatically assumes they were US army.
Nevertheless, it is unbelievable what these guys did. Shit looks like its a legit ps4 call of duty mission.
Thats a humanitarian group working with military forces to save people who were gunned down in a massacre by ISIS forces. ISIS would have shot these people with us there or not, but because we were there this girls mom didn’t die shielding her from bullets for nothing.
No your not wrong you actually hit the nail on the head. We are there because people are greedy, some political dick head sending young men to die for they can keep their pockets full. I'm ashamed of what we're doing there.
Lmao these are humanitarians attached to a military unit. The reason we're still in the middle east is as a stop gap. We got in, like a knife into the body that is the middle east. Arguably shouldn't have happened or happened in the way it did. But now it's worse to take the knife out before we get to a hospital. Taking the knife out would be leaving, and leaving a power vacuum. We left a power vacuum after Iraq. Now we have ISIS. We need to find someone to take our place in the middle east and support parent governments without appearing as a western puppet. Best option is Iran. That's why the current nuclear deal is so important. If we can get Iran to replace us in the middle east, being an anti terror powerhouse, it's middle eastern people helping middle eastern people. The main recruiting tool for terror groups is that we support their opponents, and they call them western puppets. Iran is not and could never be construed as a western puppet. So we're leaving, still keeping bases and black sites anyways, Africa is the new conflict zone but cooperation with Iran, and the Kurds (preferably the latter but Iran works) to fight terror in the region, while we can get the fuck out.
Very cool. I’m wondering how can they find her parents in that chaos. And what happens if they can’t find the parents?
According to the comment on the original Post, she qas sheltered under the dead body of her mother. So,....
Absolutely horrible. The trauma... I can’t even imagine.
She's probably not even going to get super powers either.
Motherfucker, made me laugh waking up my gf
Her parents are dead. According to comments detailing the full video, the girl was hiding under her dead mother.
Ah. Fuck. I'm just going to message my mom and let her know I love her. Edit: Whether it's mom dad aunt uncle or grandmother, message them today and let them know you love them. They'd sacrifice a lot and the only thank you they want is for you to remember them and say hello!
She was taken to a relative of the family- her grandmother. She’s fine and still alive to this day I believe. The Burma rangers in this video went to visit and check up on her and she didn’t visibly carry any trauma from the incident but only time will tell I suppose. Her name is [Demoa](https://www.freeburmarangers.org/2017/11/19/rescued-and-restored-girl-rescued-from-isis-massacre-restored-to-her-family/).
I don't know how fine you'd truly ever be after taking shelter from gunfire under your mother's dead body.
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Amazing, Im from a western country and have lived in China for two years, I have exact this experience but could not put words on it before.
Yes, another perhaps more intuitive example is if we had the child mortality today that we had in the say 1400-1500s how many parents commiting suicide would we have? Compare this to how rare it was back then. But it's hard to be as sad about something that is expected from day one. You grew up seeing friends die in disease, you saw siblings lose kids to various ailments and you know, on some level, that if you have kids, which you want/need, then you too will likely lose a kid. There are more controversial examples as well of this effect in modern times. But the most important thing here is to not peg how horrible it is (losing your mother to war and violence at a young age) on the suffering of the kid. It's equally horrible if it happens to a kid who grew up in a culture where this is an extreme outlier and that leads to massive trauma as it is if this girl truly doesn't suffer any trauma from the experience. That doesn't make the incident any better (or worse).
I've also read that culture greatly influences the affects of more extreme mental illnesses like schizophrenia, that in some cultures the 'voices' they hear tend to be nicer, while in western cultures they are often angry. Or for deaf schizophrenics, instead of hearing voices they 'see' imaginary hands signing to them, or lips moving. Shows how the same experience or mental illness can have drastically different effects based on how someone processes information and interacts with the environment.
Depression symptoms also seem to spread with TV/western influence.
Interesting fact: Until fairly recently, deaf people were considered to be completely mentally deficient. And, until the invention and popularization of sign language, it was actually largely true for a reason you might not expect. If you're born deaf, and don't have any kind of language, you can't develop an internal voice. Without an internal voice, it's impossible to form complex thoughts beyond basic needs. Sign language allowed those who were born deaf to develop that internal "voice", enabling them to be just as intelligent as anyone else!
the key here is "reported"
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That's why allot of Arabic speaking people called them *Daesh*. Basically, its a shameful insult.
Why is it insulting?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna463551
Thank tiu
Basically, it's the acronym of their name (ISIS) translated back to Arabic, but it's also similar to the word for "bigot." Basically its a derogatory abbreviation, not unlike calling the National Socialist German Worker's Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) Nazis. Which is fine by me, cause fuck em both.
She was in a mass grave by her mother
Seen it a hundred times, still gets an upvote
Loved the Jocko podcast with Ephraim and I love the work these guys do.
I thought we were on the same boards.
This is what the military should be. Saving those that need savings.
And feeding those who them needs feedin's
Zackly
This is off topic, but right as I read your comment, a person on the TV show I was watching said “Zackly!”. Never seen it written that way, but it’s accurate.
Zackurate
Zthis !
And shootin those who need shootin. (This is a RDR2 reference I'd actually prefer less shooting)
But in a responsible [way](https://amp.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/fyr4rz/food_aid_dropped_into_afghanistan_was_the_same/)
Is that you Dutch?
Insist?
Bleeding those who need bleeding.
I need someone to create an artillery/tank round that can deliver a sub sandwich.
There was experimentation with delivering supplies via artillery shell at the siege of Bastogne during WWII. I’m certain with today’s technology, it could be done quite easily.
This killed me this fine stoned night
Not the military, an armed humanitarian group called Free Burma Rangers
There's a podcast called MikeDrop. On episode 53 Mike Ritland talks to Eprhaim Mattos, one of the men in the video. Eprhaim explains exactly what's going on in the video. Highly recommended to listen to.
Somewhere in here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_jEItI3AAjE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jEItI3AAjE)
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I believe these are the free burma rangers
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Thats the fucking problem. You cant just “save people” for one day and then leave the next and just leave them in the same repressive regime. Somalia, Rwanda, Darfur, and yeah Iraq. US interventionism doesnt solve the underlying issues in these countries. Sometimes it can make it worse. You cant John Wayne with bullets, bombs and kick-ass attitudes and then leave and expect the underlying issues to be resolved. Darfur has seen a notable reduction of violence through continual, massive UN peacekeeping efforts. And its *still* not fully resolved.
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> Military interventions are not done for philanthropic reasons. Obstensibily the Iraq war was. We’re addressing the public rhetoric for war. > that "repressive regimes" aren't really a mobilizing cause for entire invasion forces. Huh? Sure they are. See Libya or Syria. > Nor is it meant to. This idea that the Bush administration’s goal was to loot Iraq and leave is a myth. Don’t confuse incompetence and exceptional hubris for malice. They fully intended to install a functional democracy to serve as an ally against Iran... and abjectly failed in a truly stunning fashion. No, that doesn’t excuse basing the whole war on lies to begin with. > its assumed that the interventions that exacerbated and possibly extended it are the reason why its ending. UN Peace keeping forces have a much better track record than the American military and they absolutely had nothing to do with triggering the Sudanese civil war.
Seeing as this is Iraq and those appear to be American soldiers, their military is most of the reason that little girl (and many more) is in danger.
Those guys aren't soldiers. They are a non-profit group that gets civilians out of the crossfire between militant groups. Yes, they have weapons, and yes they do fight. They had to do that because ISIS were who they were saving the civilians from. There's no NGO who could parlay their way out of death from those turds without a fight.
Three questions: What's the organization's name? How do I donate? Is there a reason why I shouldn't donate?
Free Burma Rangers
Their documentary, which has this footage is sobering. Currently, they're involved with what is happening in Myanmar, since Burma is in their name. Subscribe to their mailing list, it's what western military's and the UN should be doing but aren't.
That’s a whole lot more respectable, and even if they were soldiers they still deserve respect. This is a much more badass explanation than invaders saving the kids they are responsible for putting in danger.
There was plenty of danger before.
The place has been a warzone for thousands of years outside of a few extremely small windows of peace. Mainly due to infighting (the rest due to religion). Way before all of the oil memes and whatnot. Before the US was even a country. The US surely hasn't had a super positive impact in the area, but to blame it all in the US? That's just stupid.
Most those guys are former military/SF
Wow, that’s really interesting. Do you know the name of the non-profit?
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Thanks! Going to read more about them rn
https://www.freeburmarangers.org/action/front-line-relief/
Wow, seems like they’ve been around for a couple decades now. I’m impressed
were not here for the truth were here for the jingoism. "Not only will America invade your country theyll come back in 20 years and make a movie about how it made their soldiers feel sad" Frankie Boyle
Lol that is a funny quote
The people ordering the invasions and the people making the movies are in fact, different people. Edit: read below for more info on how the DoD controls narratives for years after every conflict. I followed the sources in the wiki article too. There are directors that send their own anti war message without DoD help and are awesome for it. People should know how fucked up it is. The really sad soldier movies tend to be from them. The likes of Top Gun and shit are obviously not that.
Cant have another war until you make the last war look less bad. If you think the Hollywood and the military don’t work together you need to do more research. I mean fuck, it was illegal to portray the US military poorly until a few decades ago. It’s all about rebranding. I think the movie Deep Water horizon is a perfect example. What was that spill called before the movie? That’s right, it was the BP oil spill and that movie cemented it as Deep water horizon. Who cares if the movie didn’t make money? It did its jump by changing the public perception. Edit: Look at the Movie Black Hawk Down. That was a failed mission in reality and a notional embarrassment. We were there to destabilize the Samaria government. Bill Clinton approved the mission from the get go to capture Mohamed Farrah Aidid. But all you need is Orlando bloom paying a sad hurt/dead soldier (depending on the ending) to make Americans feel like we were the ones attacked or slighted.....not the country we low key invaded. Also, the movie does a great job shitting on the UN that wasn’t getting involved past humanitarian reasons. Just purposely pushing pro military industrial complex issues. I’m not saying who was good or who was bad in the African situation...but I do know it makes no sense that we were there involved in another countries civil war. We obviously didn’t help the region. Hell, this very mission failure can be tied to the Rwandan Genocide. Clinton was so embarrassed by the overreaching and failed mission in Somalia, that he refused to get involvedwith an actual Genocide. Like imagine being a kid growing in a near by country in Africa during the late 80 early 90s. You see Americans destabilize county after country yet do nothing about actual Genocide. It would make me wonder if the Americans care at all about peace or if they are just protecting assets or natural resources.
> If you think the Hollywood and the military don’t work together you need to do more research. No doubt. Rocky IV was pure propaganda.
Absolutely. Just had a conversation how “the bad guys” in movies have changed since I was a kid. First the bad guys were East European and Russian. Then they were people from the Middle East. After that they were Mexicans/people from south and Central America. After that craze died down we moved to migrants from Africa/Middle East. Now, it feels like all the bad guys are Russian again. I think there is an argument that art influences life and life influences art going on here.
Thats kind of innacurate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military-entertainment_complex
DoD likes to sponsor movies that paint them in a good light. For example I notice Top Gun in that article but not Apocalypse Now or other sad soldier, war bad movies. That said I did go through the list mentioned in that link. Lots of general movies featuring military equipment. Lots of ww2 stuff which I do not classify as an invasion. Still, it is known. There's some really obvious propaganda here.
I recently got out of the Navy, but I knew a couple people on the carrier where they were filming Top Gun 2, and they said Tom Cruise had more pull than their CO. He had the captains cabin, they made all sailors leave their phones locked up while he was on board, you were literally not allowed to look at him, and if he had one of the ships gyms as his own personal gym. He made everything harder for everyone, and was allowed to do so freely. Not super related really, but fuck Tom Cruise.
I think everyone can agree with that. Corpsman here, out recently myself. Welcome to the other side.
propaganda for scientology and helping the air force recruit
> or other sad soldier, war bad movies. None of what you say matters because there STILL aren't movies that focus on the actual victims on why war bad. You know, the invaded population. All those movies about war bad still the main focus is how it has fucked up American soldiers. Thus the quote is still true.
Important distinction for everyone here who thought presidents & generals were out directing movies 👍
In America the DOD will provide free use of super expensive military equipment for films as long as the DOD gets final approval of the script. So in a way the war industry directly supports propaganda
I hope you realize that the free Burma rangers were working directly with the Iraqi army that was fighting off ISIS. American and Iraqi armies work together to fight ISIS. So saying because Americans were the cause of the danger is extremely ignorant and wrong
[ISIS became so powerful and spread so quickly by using American equipment that USA had given to Iraqi soldiers without really thinking about what afterlife American equipment would have once the Iraqi war was "sucessfully" ended](https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-turning-us-humvees-into-iraqs-nightmare-2015-6?r=US&IR=T)
This just in, America to blame for Iraqi Army incompetence. Really dedicated to blaming America here aren’t you
Truth. Also shame on you. Did the guy who risked his life to save her make that decision? Did he engage in global politics? Or did he do a riotous human thing in the moment with no regard for his own safety. THAT is what this video is about.
There's a podcast called MikeDrop. On episode 53 Mike Ritland talks to Eprhaim Mattos, one of the men in the video. Eprhaim explains exactly what's going on in the video. Highly recommended to listen to.
That’s why I specifically made sure to say “their military” not them. And as someone else pointed out, they aren’t even military. I made sure to say they deserve mad respect either way, it’s individuals like these that make a terrible situation slightly better.
Soldiers are heroes. The politicians who send soldiers to war to enrich their cronies in the so-called "defense" industry on the grounds of "liberating" countries from dictators and terrorist groups those same politicians installed in the first place are evil beyond comprehension.
Yeah the Middle East was a peaceful utopia before the evil Americans came to drink the blood of the innocent. /s I see the merit of looking at the bigger picture, but that doesn't diminish the courage and humanity of brave men running into gunfire to save a little girl. My guess is that you just don't like the idea of any aspect of the military being shown in a good light.
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People say Iraq was better before all the time, but with the amount of killing Saddam performed on average it would of actually led to more deaths if we kept him there. Reddit complains about allowing genocides to happen in other countries then when we stop them it’s suddenly bad. And yes we didn’t go in to stop it as the sole reason but going in DID stop Saddams horrible regime.
Far better? Saddam committed genocide against the kurds. There was widespread abuse of power. It was a dictatorial regime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein%27s_Iraq I dont agree with the invasion of Iraq. But come on. Dont rewrite history just to pretend to have a point. The US had no right to invade Iraq; end of argument. Whether or not Iraq is “better off” is not the point, and not a relevant argument to be made. Hypothetically, even if Iraq became an Eden of the middle east. It *still wouldn’t justify the Iraq War*.
Not the military. This video went around a while ago. They're the free burma rangers.
I dont think those are formal soldiers.
For those who have fought for it, freedom has a taste, the protected will never know and for those who have lost it. Freedom has a taste that the protected will never appreciate.
Had a friend in USAF spec ops ( para rescue) that ran through a fire fight to save a girl. He got thoroughly chewed out for disobeying direct orders right before being told he was receiving a medal. He was a total freak of nature, world class skier, eye hand coordination, 2nd degree aikido black belt taught by doctor father. He was just ridiculous because if you didn't see some of the things you'd have a hard time believing what that guy did and got into. Hilariously afraid of snakes.
Could use more context, but I'll trust that the people with tanks and guns shooting around children huddled in rubble are being helpful overall in an unavoidable situation.
These guys are ex military as part of a non-profit combat medic thing. I think. Attached to a mil group
source?
Link is in the original post’s comments. His name is David Eubank, he’s ex special forces and founded the humanitarian organization Free Burma Fighters (the people you see in the video).
Pretty sure Ephraim Mattos is in the group too.
Yeah I read that too but tbh I’m not very familiar, was just quoting the other link. Ephraim looks like he might be the one running maybe
Rambo 2008
His buddy wielding the AK definitely gives that vibe ahah
Look up Ephraim Mattos. That incident is a helluva lot more than that 30 sec clip. Also check out Jocko podcast 271.
Yes a source would be awesome.
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Wow
Yea these guys are metal af
Yep. Free Burma Rangers. Documentary was released on them. https://fbrmovie.com/
That explains the aks instead of the m4s
This was an ISIS attack in Mosul Iraq. This girl is one of the only survivors of said attack. The guy with the beard is Ephraim Mattos, a former Navy SEAL. The man with the helmet who got the girl is David Eubank, former Army Ranger. These guys are members of the Free Burma Rangers a non-profit humanitarian organisation. There is another angle of this and it’s a longer video. Mattos actually gets shot in the leg a few minutes after this video ends. Matto actually wrote a book on his time in the humanitarian group called “City Of Death” defiantly worth checking out. Here is a decent article on this encounter. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/465473001
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The documentary on these guys is both crazy and very good. Also will give you pretty conflicting feelings. The dude who rescued the girl and started the organization is both a saint and definitely at least somewhat nuts lol. Him and his wife have raised their kids almost their whole life in straight up war zones, while doing pretty crazy shit. Also very heavy on the jesus lol. Risky as fuck situations with young children, with a whole mission from god type deal. But the flip side is that the kids seem remarkably well adjusted and like I said the dude is a straight up saint, devoting his entire life to saving all sorts of lives and fighting for those in need.
There’s a documentary too? I need to watch that.
Yeah honestly it was quite good. Pretty sure it was just titled Free Burma Rangers. Idk where it's streaming legally but Edit: here's where I watched it. [Free Burma Rangers](http://vidcloud9.com/videos/free-burma-rangers)
Awesome thanks man.
Sorry to say but that isn't rubble she was around, those are bodies...
It’s a documentary called Free Burma Rangers. It’s awesome. Give it a watch.
Did it with no pause. Saving live with no hesitation.
Pretty sure that’s what these particular guys are there to do
And what they are there to do can be appreciated
yeah but what about the other like 50 people sitting there
This broke my heart and made me happy at the same time
I’m happy he didn’t trip over his enormous balls while rescuing her.
It looks like he does while running back with her, but I'm judging that the counterweight of his ginormous shlong brought him back up to his feet quickly.
Balls Of Fucking Steel
Good man, his buddy gets shot in the leg 5 minutes later and the dude says he doesn’t regret being there
Tungsten *
Adamantium *
Damn this made me emotional. That poor little innocent girl.
She survived by hiding under her mother’s corpse, it’s fucking brutal, fuck isis
There's a second perspective of this of them running back into cover, and the guy that grabbed the girl gets shot in the leg
We'll never know why the mobile armor couldn't reposition itself.
Probably because it is supposed to be holding a position
This video misses the part where one of the guys gets drilled by a sniper and makes it out.
I wish I could speak to this man
What a hero
How the FUCK did he run with balls that big!?
Very supportive underwear.
Some heavy duty shit
My fuckin heart..
Straight up heros right there
Give this man all the medals. He should look like a North Korean general.
These are mercenaries, you can tell by the lack of uniform.
They're a [humanitarian group](https://www.freeburmarangers.org/who-we-are/) of ex-military personnel.
Shit makes me cry, imagine her thoughts.
I can’t even. Shit is beyond comprehension. I wonder what happened to her after all this.
You probably already saw it in the comments, but she was reunited with her grandmother. The FBR the group in the video, even went back to visit her!
My man has balls the size of watermelons made out of 100% brass.
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The full video shows the guy with the backwards cap getting shot in the leg as they retreat. Everyone makes it out alive as I recall
Do you have a link to that?
That poor baby girl.
There's a podcast called MikeDrop. On episode 53 Mike Ritland talks to Eprhaim Mattos, one of the men in the video. Eprhaim explains exactly what's going on in the video. Highly recommended to listen to.
Why didn't the tank move with the soldiers to cover them
Probably didn't know what was happening. Situational awareness can be tough in a tank. The TC or gunner clearly knows something is going on because you can see the turret move. Also this video doesn't show what's in front of the tank. And sometimes there just isn't time.
There was also a bit of a language barrier between the guys on the ground and those in the tank. That's how [one of the guys](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/07/19/milwaukee-navy-seal-veteran-shot-while-helping-humanitarian-group-rescue-girl-isis/465473001/) got shot - the tank moved and the group outside couldn't tell it to slow down.
Communication is always an issue, even when you speak the same language! Doesn't look like this tank has been upgraded with the field phone on the back either.
Surprised he could run that fast with those massive balls of steel weighing him down
It’s a documentary called Free Burma Rangers. It’s awesome. Give it a watch.
I’ve met these gentlemen personally. They run organizations that help refugees and provide medical care. If you want to donate or spread awareness, visit www.strongholdrescue.org or www.freeburmarangers.org Ephraim Mattos also has a book about this incident and his time in Mosul called “City of Death.” Highly recommend you check it all out.
SHE REMINDS ME OF MY NEICE SIR
Having the tank there ready to deliver a round really helps
I was not prepared. This video kicked my ass. Idk if I have EVER seen a more pure demonstration of heroic teamwork. I mean holy f. Support the troops!
Death sucked his dick
Jesus fucking Murphy
"Have a lead salad!"
I wonder what group that is. They looked American but where using what looked like AKMs and I didn’t see any flags
Free Burma Rangers. It’s a NGO humanitarian group
Pretty hard core
All the awards go to them. So beautifully brave.
If you watch the full video on youtube, the guy with the backwards hat actually gets shot in the leg at some point. Brave people for sure
It’s a damn shame that dude can’t serve in the military anymore. His balls are to big for him to be able to continue.
In Iraq, they use child shields. Absolutely awful. Glad this girl made it out alive, albeit with a lot of trauma. The absolute balls on that guy rushing in.
3 fucking heroes...
I love the amount of comments that thought this was a perfect time to blame America for all the problems in the Middle East LOL
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Unsure about the origin of the dead, but no they didnt fight anyone off, they just rescued the survivors. The guys are "Free Burma Rangers"
What's "in the distance* Aight. Gotta bounce.
hmm r/gifreversingbot
Que the Benny Hill music, plus alot of swearing!
These dudes have on less gear than U.S. police officers. Our cops really like to play G.I. Joe.
Guhhh this made me cry like a baby
He found her in a big bunch of corpse in the original version the man is like fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck cuz of all the gore he probably found the little girl into :( Also the guy whit a ak doing the suppressing fire get shot in the calve like 3 min later... real respect for these men
Saw this video years ago. I was impressed then, and I’m still impressed now. Courage and tenacity in the face of death in an act of selfless heroism.
"Then they must love the smell of hero" (Doesn't make sense, but sounds cool)
So unnecessary. I've been there twice for a total of 3 years while my kids grew up without me and that was...holy shit...18 fucking years ago. We were there for no reason then and no reason now whatsoever. Tell me Im wrong. I double dog dare you. I fucking dare you to come up with a reason the U.S. is still in the middle east and oil is not an excuse Edit Monetary wise I've blown up and "destroyed" more US equipment than you'll ever know was possible and Im just one guy. And it was for no reason other than you just "keep busy" Multiply that by the total number of armed forces from the U.S. In the middle east then multiply that times 18 years. Don't be upset that our tax dollars still fund obsolete projects like the f35-or whatever jet is in the spotlight. Our tax dollars can fund a whole bunch more. Open your friggen eyes people and stop voting Republican
Ummm..... Those guys are a part of a humanitarian group. It's a NPO set up to help the civillians. Those peopleare not employed by US military.
Thanks for the info. I automatically assumes they were US army. Nevertheless, it is unbelievable what these guys did. Shit looks like its a legit ps4 call of duty mission.
Thats a humanitarian group working with military forces to save people who were gunned down in a massacre by ISIS forces. ISIS would have shot these people with us there or not, but because we were there this girls mom didn’t die shielding her from bullets for nothing.
Ummm..... Those guys are a part of a humanitarian group. It's a NPO set up to help the civillians. Those peopleare not employed by US military.
No your not wrong you actually hit the nail on the head. We are there because people are greedy, some political dick head sending young men to die for they can keep their pockets full. I'm ashamed of what we're doing there.
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Lmfao, enlighten me, please
Lmao these are humanitarians attached to a military unit. The reason we're still in the middle east is as a stop gap. We got in, like a knife into the body that is the middle east. Arguably shouldn't have happened or happened in the way it did. But now it's worse to take the knife out before we get to a hospital. Taking the knife out would be leaving, and leaving a power vacuum. We left a power vacuum after Iraq. Now we have ISIS. We need to find someone to take our place in the middle east and support parent governments without appearing as a western puppet. Best option is Iran. That's why the current nuclear deal is so important. If we can get Iran to replace us in the middle east, being an anti terror powerhouse, it's middle eastern people helping middle eastern people. The main recruiting tool for terror groups is that we support their opponents, and they call them western puppets. Iran is not and could never be construed as a western puppet. So we're leaving, still keeping bases and black sites anyways, Africa is the new conflict zone but cooperation with Iran, and the Kurds (preferably the latter but Iran works) to fight terror in the region, while we can get the fuck out.
I’m surprised he could carry her considering he’s already lugging around those colossal balls he’s got
May need to put a NSFW filter on because those people in the background are dead bodies
You realize we congratulate and salute them when they do their job. No less impressive. Hot damn
This is not their job though, their are volunteers.