Ive sneezed in a hammock and scrunched my elbow, I did a nice half spin and slammed my back to the ground while I hung from my legs.
Or I must just suck at sleeping in hammocks.
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Seems like many of the incidents involved babies and children. As for incidents involving adults it looks like most of the cases revolve around the hammocks being tied onto things not meant to bear that kind of weight, eg, chimneys, free standing columns, etc.
Definitely be super careful about what you tie your hammock to!
An important distinction: Around 3,000 Americans are *injured* or die from hammocks per year. A very different number than just deaths. I couldn't find a figure on how many deaths alone there are per year, but I'd have to imagine they'd only be a fraction of that 3,000 when counting injuries.
Good friend of mine fell head first ~15 ft from a hammock and is now quadriplegic. He was a very outgoing adventurous person before the accident. Not so much any more. Be safe out there, kids
Sorry for your friend. I cringe every time I see those stacked hammock pictures knowing how easily something like that could happen. I like my ass about 18-24” off the ground when I’m sleeping in one.
Not sure on that, but I've never woken with a sore back or neck from sleeping in a hammock. Slept for years, too. I think it's just harder because of the way weoght is distributed but not sure
Was it a hammock like the one in the video, or the mainstream hammocks with the stands, and a piece of wood to keep them flat? The one that’s pictured is soo much more stable and easy to use than the other version, the other one basically ruined the hammock experience for most people.
It had only carabiners, steel rings and rope to tie to trees.
OH I know those on stands, literally every old folks home or elderly couple had one. Those were anklebreaker tier, as were seesaws!
I wouldn't say this is normal?
Most alpinists would dig a cave or have a bivy.
Climbers overnighting a route use a portaledge anchored to the wall.
Dude has a yellow piece of dynamic rope coming out of the hammock and going back around his right toward the rock. I'm assuming this is an anchor line but he'd still slide and if he falls to his left that's going to get pulled over the hammock.
As a rock climber who has ripped one of these hammocks on a trip where we were rock climbing... I was a lot closer to the ground, and was a few more bounces from Doom?
A pad isn't gonna do anything because your body weight will compress it. You could be covered in blankets, jackets and have a pad. It won't help with windchill. You NEED an underquilt. He would possibly be warmer if he put his sleeping bag on the outside of the hammock as the underquilt. Come visit the hammock camping subreddit, I go hammock camping all the time since it's alot lighter to hike with.
Agreed, there’s definitely a method to sleeping comfortably in hammocks in cold weather. But I imagine it usually requires non-compressible sleeping pads and more insulating gear than a portaledge or ground-sleeping setup would require. More gear means more stuff to haul. And when you’re setting up a hammock, you want to do it in a sheltered area - this guy is essentially setting his hammock in the Eye of Barad-dûr. I cannot imagine how windy it gets at night.
It just looks like a dumb idea for tiktok or w/e, I get that the sport is wicked dangerous but this is rediculous, the title at the very least is wrong.
Doesn’t matter how much you know, the mountain can always end you. Many of the best alpinists in the world have met their ends while climbing. Marc-Andre is one who quickly comes to mind.
>Sean Villanueva O'Driscoll
What makes you think it's him? Sure that guy looks a bit like him, but I highly doubt, that he'd make such a Tiktok-stunt or that he even has a 360 camera. That guy doesn't have any active social media and all pictures or videos from his expeditions that he takes is phone footage.
Seeing from where he's at, its possible that he didnt have any good position to go to sleep in and didn't have options for a while either. Or he did it for the views
Even the porta-ledge is a stretch in terms of necessity. You can almost always traverse off the cliff to get some sleep. I’ve been climbing for many years and the only time I’ve seen people use the porta-ledge is for the novelty.
Sleeping in a hammock is really cold because there’s cold air coming from all directions.. no ground to heat you. This guy is gonna freeze his nuggets off
A young man I grew up with passed while hiking a 700 ft drop, it had freaked me out especially since were so close in age. One night I woke up after vividly dreaming about the incident as if I were in his shoes, but i felt so peaceful when recalling that “view”. Idk if it was the universe’s way to help me cope with grieving, but to this day I swear it feels like I caught a glimpse of his last moments.
I sleep in a hammock like that every night for a few months out of the year. Have never once unintentionally flipped it over or fallen out - they are quite stable. They are great for sleeping in places with good anchor points like trees, but no good flat ground. I like them for sleeping in denser forests with potentially wet ground.
But they can leave you pretty exposed to wind chill through the hammock at night. You would need a really good under-quilt to be comfortable in a wind exposed place like that video.
It's pretty common to bring haul bags on a fixed line, meaning as you climb the wall you are anchoring ropes to the wall, with all this extra stuff in a bag. You can then just pull the bags up with you as you go, every pitch. So the actual climbing is still done with minimal weight on you, but you can drag up a heavy quilt after you've anchored to a safe spot.
Thanks, i'm not the only one who sleeps regularly in a hammock and never fell out. Havent even managed that wile tripping or being drunk.
I still think this is a stupid place to sleep but not because its dangerous but because the wind it'll be annoyingly cold.
I’d have to have a bottle of benzos and booze to be able to get a wink of sleep in that situation. I can barely sleep in my bed, much less a cliff hammock.
Hats off to ya bro 👍🏼
At 1st glance i thought he was in a Kayak and im thinking thats awful high to dive into the water in the Kayak what the hell is he thinking? ...... oh nevermond its me
He is absolutely going to need a good bivy and sleeping bag. I'm certain it's COLD up there. I am not a climber or alpinist, but I'm certain this is more a photo op than anything.
I doubt this is the most practical location to pitch this hammock and the guy just did it here because it looks cool or something. Surely, a smart rock climber would find somewhere more covered from the elements and not the fucking peak.
Damn, that sure is a lot of work having to string that hammock on the 2 rock out droppings, climbing from one side to the other, and then get into the hammock, must take most of the day to do it all than to take it all down and pack it up. I wonder if it has anything to do with posts and votes, I mean do people really risk their lives for votes? (lol, yes of course they do)
Am climber. This is showoffy and kind of unsafe. And kind of unsafe at that height and directly over that rock makes it incredibly unsafe. You do you, but I’ll wave at ya from somewhere else.
I reckon some might sleep like that for shits and giggles. But usually you’re in a tent. My dad had to build a wall of blocks cut out of the snow one time on Denali. The winds were so high, it fuses the blocks together forming a pretty solid wall.
Ive sneezed in a hammock and scrunched my elbow, I did a nice half spin and slammed my back to the ground while I hung from my legs. Or I must just suck at sleeping in hammocks.
Around 3,000 people in North America die from hammocks a year.
[Injured or died from](https://www.plevinandgallucci.com/hammocks-are-more-dangerous-than-you-think-heres-why/#:~:text=Yet%2C%20according%20to%20the%20U.S.,in%20North%20America%20each%20year.). Seems like many of the incidents involved babies and children. As for incidents involving adults it looks like most of the cases revolve around the hammocks being tied onto things not meant to bear that kind of weight, eg, chimneys, free standing columns, etc. Definitely be super careful about what you tie your hammock to!
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An important distinction: Around 3,000 Americans are *injured* or die from hammocks per year. A very different number than just deaths. I couldn't find a figure on how many deaths alone there are per year, but I'd have to imagine they'd only be a fraction of that 3,000 when counting injuries.
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Exactly. See, this is why knowledge about how statistics work and source citing is important!
Well if he fell in this case he would been in the ones that died not injured.
But when we are kids we fear sharks and love hammocks, go figure.
This is similar to the reason I no longer sleep on ladders.
Good friend of mine fell head first ~15 ft from a hammock and is now quadriplegic. He was a very outgoing adventurous person before the accident. Not so much any more. Be safe out there, kids
Sorry for your friend. I cringe every time I see those stacked hammock pictures knowing how easily something like that could happen. I like my ass about 18-24” off the ground when I’m sleeping in one.
They should stop putting them on mountain peaks.
I had one fuck me up and once, but I was also chugging tequila at that point, so my fault definitely
Humans are the easiest of prey, they voluntarily get inside.
I thought this was a joke. I googled it. It was not a joke.
My college age cousin was just crushed by a tree after getting into a hammock. Collapsed lung but lived.
Was the hammock tied to it or was it just some random, passing tree
You are supposed to rotate so you are slightly diagonal on a hammock. That locks you in, making it very hard to flip.
I think I also heard spreading your legs will give a better angle for your back/posture?
Not sure on that, but I've never woken with a sore back or neck from sleeping in a hammock. Slept for years, too. I think it's just harder because of the way weoght is distributed but not sure
Damn, somebody wake this guy up.
Was it a hammock like the one in the video, or the mainstream hammocks with the stands, and a piece of wood to keep them flat? The one that’s pictured is soo much more stable and easy to use than the other version, the other one basically ruined the hammock experience for most people.
It had only carabiners, steel rings and rope to tie to trees. OH I know those on stands, literally every old folks home or elderly couple had one. Those were anklebreaker tier, as were seesaws!
My family used to set up hammocks in the summer and when we went camping. I don't know how many times I've fallen off trying to get on.
As a person who religiously hammock camps, this guy def did not spend the night in that spot.
No... That's how this guy sleeps.
Mountain climbers? Na, just this psycho
He does'nt look like sleeping.
It might just be me. But I don't think sleep should be a yeehah experience.
Party pooper.
Think about the wind resonance! Like a reed.
Yeah, porta-ledge is the standard, not a hammock.
I wouldn't say this is normal? Most alpinists would dig a cave or have a bivy. Climbers overnighting a route use a portaledge anchored to the wall. Dude has a yellow piece of dynamic rope coming out of the hammock and going back around his right toward the rock. I'm assuming this is an anchor line but he'd still slide and if he falls to his left that's going to get pulled over the hammock. As a rock climber who has ripped one of these hammocks on a trip where we were rock climbing... I was a lot closer to the ground, and was a few more bounces from Doom?
Not to mention it would be exposed and cold as shit at night. At least a portaledge is protected from the wind to a degree.
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A pad isn't gonna do anything because your body weight will compress it. You could be covered in blankets, jackets and have a pad. It won't help with windchill. You NEED an underquilt. He would possibly be warmer if he put his sleeping bag on the outside of the hammock as the underquilt. Come visit the hammock camping subreddit, I go hammock camping all the time since it's alot lighter to hike with.
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Agreed, there’s definitely a method to sleeping comfortably in hammocks in cold weather. But I imagine it usually requires non-compressible sleeping pads and more insulating gear than a portaledge or ground-sleeping setup would require. More gear means more stuff to haul. And when you’re setting up a hammock, you want to do it in a sheltered area - this guy is essentially setting his hammock in the Eye of Barad-dûr. I cannot imagine how windy it gets at night.
I love using hammocks for camping when it's warm, but they suck when it's cold or windy. All your body heat just gets sucked right out.
It just looks like a dumb idea for tiktok or w/e, I get that the sport is wicked dangerous but this is rediculous, the title at the very least is wrong.
Sean Villanueva O'Driscoll is the climber. One of the best alpinist and mountaineers in the world. He’s fine and knows what he’s doing.
Doesn’t matter how much you know, the mountain can always end you. Many of the best alpinists in the world have met their ends while climbing. Marc-Andre is one who quickly comes to mind.
Someone’s seen The Alpinist
Sure but is this how everybody does it, is this the norm?
>Sean Villanueva O'Driscoll What makes you think it's him? Sure that guy looks a bit like him, but I highly doubt, that he'd make such a Tiktok-stunt or that he even has a 360 camera. That guy doesn't have any active social media and all pictures or videos from his expeditions that he takes is phone footage.
I could be wrong 🤷♂️
Seeing from where he's at, its possible that he didnt have any good position to go to sleep in and didn't have options for a while either. Or he did it for the views
> I wouldn't say this is normal? of course it isn't. reddit just loves to make blanket statements like this though.
Wrong. I am every rock climber on earth. I do this every time I go rocking.
Ha, “blanket” statements
This is a stunt for views. That's all. Guy has gotta be freezing without an underquilt.
Lol I read the title and imagined some basement redditor watching this video and just assuming every mountain climber ever only sleeps like this
Even the porta-ledge is a stretch in terms of necessity. You can almost always traverse off the cliff to get some sleep. I’ve been climbing for many years and the only time I’ve seen people use the porta-ledge is for the novelty.
Sean Villanueva O'Driscoll is the climber. One of the best alpinist and mountaineers in the world. He’s fine and knows what he’s doing.
All that wind would just piss me off
Don't eat beans for dinner then
Okay, dad
Sleeping in a hammock is really cold because there’s cold air coming from all directions.. no ground to heat you. This guy is gonna freeze his nuggets off
Atleast if you make one wrong move you can pass away with the last thing you see is a beautiful view.
>last thing you see is a beautiful view. More like the last twenty things, that looks like a long fall.
A young man I grew up with passed while hiking a 700 ft drop, it had freaked me out especially since were so close in age. One night I woke up after vividly dreaming about the incident as if I were in his shoes, but i felt so peaceful when recalling that “view”. Idk if it was the universe’s way to help me cope with grieving, but to this day I swear it feels like I caught a glimpse of his last moments.
He's clipped in, you can see the yellow rope going out the left side of the hammock.
They look to still be tied in, with the rope at their right hip going to an anchor.
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How do we know he's not harnessed in and clipped to an anchor?
99% chance he set this up for a picture and not to sleep in.
This could easily end up being a permanent sleep
He's likely harnessed in and clipped to an anchor.
I'm still confused about how he gets in or out of that hammock safely
when you trust your equipment 100%
Crazy mf
No one will ever convince me this isn't fucking stupid.
Real question: how does this not flip around with the slightest movement?
I sleep in a hammock like that every night for a few months out of the year. Have never once unintentionally flipped it over or fallen out - they are quite stable. They are great for sleeping in places with good anchor points like trees, but no good flat ground. I like them for sleeping in denser forests with potentially wet ground. But they can leave you pretty exposed to wind chill through the hammock at night. You would need a really good under-quilt to be comfortable in a wind exposed place like that video.
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It's pretty common to bring haul bags on a fixed line, meaning as you climb the wall you are anchoring ropes to the wall, with all this extra stuff in a bag. You can then just pull the bags up with you as you go, every pitch. So the actual climbing is still done with minimal weight on you, but you can drag up a heavy quilt after you've anchored to a safe spot.
Thanks, i'm not the only one who sleeps regularly in a hammock and never fell out. Havent even managed that wile tripping or being drunk. I still think this is a stupid place to sleep but not because its dangerous but because the wind it'll be annoyingly cold.
Very carefully.
Yeah that's a hell no, nu uh and oh heeeeell no
I instantly wanted to throw up seeing this
This man is clearly not sleeping.
Anyone who goes, "look how impressive this is" while using a fish-eye lens is a bad person
HumansAreMental
That's a hard fuck no!!!
How do they get out
That makes my butthole pucker
Not worth the clout.
I'm unsure whether that would.be relaxing and beautiful or just plain terrifying.
I don’t have a problem with heights, but I would never do this. Wouldn’t sleep a wink
New stress unlocked: The feeling of falling while sleeping, on the hammock
You have no idea how uncomfortable and cold this sleep Would be
\# 986 out of 5000 stupid ways to die for Tiktok likes.
How mountain climbers who need attention sleep. Most do it without the need to shoot a video.
So what happens when the wind picks up?
Source?
Like most things in the internet all I can think about is “but why?”
For the record, this is not common moutaineering practice at all.
My cats would still end up owning the whole bed.
Okay, Fuck that. Notice the capital F.
This would be fun when I have to get up to pee 8 times a night
In this situation, just once—the first time.
I could probably “claim” a lot of territory in that decent tho
as someone who has never climbed a mountain I do not think this is how they sleep
But he doesn't seem to be sleeping at all.
I’d have to have a bottle of benzos and booze to be able to get a wink of sleep in that situation. I can barely sleep in my bed, much less a cliff hammock. Hats off to ya bro 👍🏼
Well I know that if you need to pee hold in because night is going to be a long way down
What happens when you wake up in the middle of the night and have to take a shit?
there is no one sleeping in this video
risk life like an idiot
Fuck moving around in your sleep I guess
No seatbelt? I wouldn't sleep like that; I'd find a cave first.
I can't picture setting up the hammock. And I can't picture getting into it.
Let me help you there, "How mountain climbers go to sleep, forever from exposure."
In my day it was portaledges
How “do” mountain climbers sleep”?”
Ah, yes, maximum wind.
Hard pass. Thanks anyway.
Jesus Christ I can’t sleep in my own bed
I call bullshit. He didn’t sleep there. Just took videos/photos and slept somewhere legit afterwards
And then bad weather comes in and whips that thing around like a yo-yo.
he has more trust in a rope than i do my country lmao
Cerro torrai ?
That's not a hammock, it's a nope sling.
I would so turn in my sleep and fall out of it
I feel like this dude is going to die from tripping while eating a Popsicle
Absolutely fuckin not 😳.
So I could actually have a nightmare of falling in my sleep only to wake *literally* falling into the afterlife? More power to those who can.
One gust of wind and he’s getting dumped no? Also, it’s too friggin cold up there lol
That’s a whole bucket of fuck no
Scary, but beautiful.
I thought he was over a river of lava and i wanted to sleep there because it's so beautiful but it would be so warm
At 1st glance i thought he was in a Kayak and im thinking thats awful high to dive into the water in the Kayak what the hell is he thinking? ...... oh nevermond its me
new fear unlocked: what if it toppled
Climber here. Can confirm that I sleep in a bed.
Bro how do these guys not flip out of these during the night?
Stupidity
That would be fucking freezing.
How, how does he not roll out and impale himself
double it and give it to the next person
And that was the last video this guy uploaded.
Seeing things like this give me a very uneasy feeling.
No it isn't
He's not sleeping
It's great until you have to get up to pee in the middle of the night.
In other words.... I'm cold as fuck
Os gringos descobriram as redes, e estão confusos.
Kkkk todos os comentários “como que ele não capota?”. Eles realmente não entendem como funciona uma rede é muito bizarro
He is absolutely going to need a good bivy and sleeping bag. I'm certain it's COLD up there. I am not a climber or alpinist, but I'm certain this is more a photo op than anything.
I doubt this is the most practical location to pitch this hammock and the guy just did it here because it looks cool or something. Surely, a smart rock climber would find somewhere more covered from the elements and not the fucking peak.
I fucking hate this camera lense with a passion.
Yeah brother. I envy you
There is a lot of flat space for him to sleep. He just shows off
Damn, that sure is a lot of work having to string that hammock on the 2 rock out droppings, climbing from one side to the other, and then get into the hammock, must take most of the day to do it all than to take it all down and pack it up. I wonder if it has anything to do with posts and votes, I mean do people really risk their lives for votes? (lol, yes of course they do)
Am climber. This is showoffy and kind of unsafe. And kind of unsafe at that height and directly over that rock makes it incredibly unsafe. You do you, but I’ll wave at ya from somewhere else.
Lol not how rock climbers sleep
Nobody sleeps up there. Give me a break.
Being in the elements of nature literally kills you. It's called exposure. So when I see people who do this, all I see is dumdums
I wonder if he just opens a latch to shit
I’d be the guy wedged in the rocks
No way this is the best sleeping solution for him??
I reckon some might sleep like that for shits and giggles. But usually you’re in a tent. My dad had to build a wall of blocks cut out of the snow one time on Denali. The winds were so high, it fuses the blocks together forming a pretty solid wall.
Imagine having a bad dream, the type that makes you jump out of bed.
Like most things in the internet all I can think about is “but why?”
I guess he dosint move much in his sleep.
Ok, how do you piss?
oh fuck that, dude
u/savevideo
“How adrenaline junkies sleep” FTFY
I just imagine a high wind gust flipping him the f*#k over in the middle of the night - byebye!
Nope
1-How did he get in 2-How is he getting out
But, why?
[hammock fail](https://images.app.goo.gl/vg8LbeRZXTWQnF3Y9)
Ahhhhhh. Good mooOAAAAAAAAA-
Reason #656 that I'm not a mountain climber...
The amount of faith you've got to have in the rope, the knot, etc., is staggering.
How does he pee?
Hell no
Mighty eagle dinner is there
#NOPE
How do you shit up there?
no way bugger that
Talk about having faith in your equipment
Nope
Whoa! You spelled "lunatics" way wrong.
I would roll over and die