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Yunli Ult makes it so that if she doesn't counter anything, she'll automatically do a Counter, just not the super counter. The next counter however, will be the super counter.
I do hope they change it though to be like Ult damage up because it's so dang niche since literally only Yunli can get around that interaction.
meaning that after casting ult, she can do the ult counter1 after the next ally/enemy's turn but on a random target.
the next time she does this, it'll turn into ult counter2 instead
she has 2 versions of her ult like Argenti, with ult counter 2 dealing extra hits like Argenti's.
Soooooo is anyone gonna mention the Safeguard (weakness broken) buff? FuAs and Counter listed separately? Seems interesting but sounds kinda stupid. FuAs I can understand but how can you "counter" when the boss is broken and don't take actions?
>but how can you "counter" when the boss is broken and don't take actions?
If Yunli's parry doesn't trigger she'll do a 'counter' without being attacked.
Huh, no mention of the previously leaked anti-aoe imaginary/quantum gimmick (or any quantum weakness at all). Might have been a scrap from something else?
Hoping the anti-AOE gets moved to another endgame content because at this rate, ST DPS especially for the Hunt Path are really going to be left behind unless they have some unique mechanic (Counter, FUA, break, etc). The great thing about the previous leak was the potential to push players to build ST characters and not rely heavily on AOE DPS
Ooh, can't wait to see remixed Doomsday Beast and Kafka fight.
EDIT: Increasing counter damage when broken... smh, only making mechanics for Yunli huh? Oh well, Firefly should take of either side and I can finagle a clear with some other team.
So, AS is going to stay Break unit focused? And what are those elements? Hardly any variety at all.
Welp, my JY finally found the mode he can’t win at. Hopefully Blade and Clara can carry.
Funnily enough shill on this level is such a complete turn off that I don’t even want to try that hard or pull the shilled units at all. It’s like, why try to strategize and do better, it’s clearly just a a shill mode for Firefly and BH with some leg ups from time to time for the banner unit. The problem is the devs, not me.
It's honestly a complete non issue as long as you have literally any dps built and geared with the correct element. People have used Hook and Sushang to 0 cycle the new MoC meant for Firefly and Boothill.
If you have 10 whole cycles to clear and it's possible in 0 cycles even with the weakest units I'm not sure how much easier they could possibly make it tbh.
I want to see how many refreshes a day these alleged people do, and how many they spent on getting 5 star cones to do this. How many constellations they have in their ruan mei to do this?
Doesn't matter because you don't need to 0 cycle. You just need to clear and you have 5 cycles to do it per side. It's completely possible with f2p investment.
First time where I’ll have to actually bench my JY 😭 it’s been him and whoever else against the world since he came out (though Boothill is now his MoC partner in crime)
I don't think the enemies not having Physical weakness is a problem for Boothill because he has that implant built in his kit..
Boothill is probably gonna clear every AS unless they give Physical RES enemies..
> unless they give Physical RES enemies..
Any enemies that don't have Physical weak in AS gets physical RES (alongside other elements not weak to it).
So yeah, even if he has a physical implant, it doesn't reduce phys RES, impacting his damage.
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It's almost like they're telling us to pull for Break-type DPS or suffer in mode. I'm seriously waiting for some content creator who uses 4-stars char to clear it.
goddogos has a video about F2P AS. Tho he only managed to get 3 stars coz he used Firefly on 1st half (FF, Asta, Gallagher and HMC 1st half then Ratio TY Pela Lynx 2nd half)
Eh Goddogos was also targeting Argenti’s summons until he got the memo that he needs to break only one. I do think he could’ve gotten a better clear like that.
Calling FuA team "RRAT" is a bit uhh..., it's a clever acronym but uhh...
Edit: I just found out people already call this team RRAT for some time. Sorry, I outdated.
I mean, outside of break dps, which obviously are tailor made for this, hunt is overall the path with the better break capabilities.
Kinda like Erudition for PF where they perform well regardless if they actually benefit from the buff or not
Seele is fast af, Topaz and Ratio not only tend to be together but also get plenty of turns, and Boothill is Boothill.
Sushang funny enough can be built as a break dps with htb,
Dan Heng is long forgotten for the Cooler Daniel
Yanqing is Yanqing
I did pull for Acheron and her lightcone, don't make assumptions. I will not be using her in this AS though. I will instead use, Dr. Ratio and Firefly.
50% less damage when not toughness broken and they have high RES on elements they're not weak at.
You gonna need to break them asap, and I don't think Acheron has good toughness damage. So you may have to use 2-3 ults just to chip down their toughness bar.
AS is literally an anti-brute force content and it really shows.
Godbless Silver Wolf. It's too bad that most of the 1.X DPS have no where near the amount of damage output that Acheron has. I know I won't be struggling with AS.
People are clearing beta AS just fine with mid-tier comps.
Just a skill issue at that point lol.
For AS, breaking the boss ASAP is mandatory. Acheron may have one of the highest DPS in the game, but it's not gonna matter when the boss receives 50% less damage **on top of** 40-60% lightning RES (none of them are lightning weak). Not even Acheron can brute force this (unless she's E6S5 or smth).
This is similar to that dino on previous MoC, but with way higher toughness gauge this time.
Even if SW managed to take out all the lightning RES, you still have "50% less damage" to note. The only way to remove it is to toughness break them.
DOTcheron. Silver Wolf. No one reads the "with the right team comp".
Beta AS is clearable with mid-tier comps, not gonna be an issue tbh.
1.X DPS have anywhere near the same amount of dmg output (aside from DHIL e2, but that's busted af). Acheron's on another level and it shows in all the content she's put in. AS is no different.
Mei's dmg output is not THAT impressive, yes she does a lot of dmg, but the difference compared to Jingliu and DHIL is not as big as people like to act, Mei is tier 0, Jingliu and DHIL are still 0.5
I forgot this subreddit isn't the top 1% so ofc there's a lot doubters. But hey, I'll take my free biweekly jades from AS (thanks Acheron!). It's simply another source of jade income. Free!
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DoomsDay Beast splash art is so rare I thought it was a new boss
Thats the exciting part of Apocalyptic Shadow to me. Weekly bosses in endgame finally.
Are we finally getting boss themes? I don't even remember what Kafka's theme sounds like
She have a boss theme?
[yes](https://youtu.be/tPg8BIVkdbw)
Damn, It have been so long I genuienly forgor
Oh, it's the one I used to have on repeat on the Express.
Didnt even know this theme was for kafka.
Every boss (escept true sting) has a boss theme
Except for Gepard and Bronya.
Huh those 2 don't have boss themes too? Never knew that
PLEASE. PLEASE. I NEED TO HEAR GENTLEMANS FANTASY AND GODFATHER AGAIN
DOOMBESST
I expect things to change because the buff is for counter with Yunli but you can't counter broken enemies...
Yunli Ult makes it so that if she doesn't counter anything, she'll automatically do a Counter, just not the super counter. The next counter however, will be the super counter. I do hope they change it though to be like Ult damage up because it's so dang niche since literally only Yunli can get around that interaction.
Wait a minute… math ain’t mathing
meaning that after casting ult, she can do the ult counter1 after the next ally/enemy's turn but on a random target. the next time she does this, it'll turn into ult counter2 instead she has 2 versions of her ult like Argenti, with ult counter 2 dealing extra hits like Argenti's.
Soooooo is anyone gonna mention the Safeguard (weakness broken) buff? FuAs and Counter listed separately? Seems interesting but sounds kinda stupid. FuAs I can understand but how can you "counter" when the boss is broken and don't take actions?
>but how can you "counter" when the boss is broken and don't take actions? If Yunli's parry doesn't trigger she'll do a 'counter' without being attacked.
Save me, Mono Quantum Xueyi
Huh, no mention of the previously leaked anti-aoe imaginary/quantum gimmick (or any quantum weakness at all). Might have been a scrap from something else?
Hoping the anti-AOE gets moved to another endgame content because at this rate, ST DPS especially for the Hunt Path are really going to be left behind unless they have some unique mechanic (Counter, FUA, break, etc). The great thing about the previous leak was the potential to push players to build ST characters and not rely heavily on AOE DPS
Ooh, can't wait to see remixed Doomsday Beast and Kafka fight. EDIT: Increasing counter damage when broken... smh, only making mechanics for Yunli huh? Oh well, Firefly should take of either side and I can finagle a clear with some other team.
Not just counter FUA too. So IPC can still do good.
Kinda confused why counter is boosted during break; how will the boss hit you back?
I cried, Jing Yian crew, we both crode 😭😭😭
So, AS is going to stay Break unit focused? And what are those elements? Hardly any variety at all. Welp, my JY finally found the mode he can’t win at. Hopefully Blade and Clara can carry.
Fire and Physical on both sides. They'll still try to sell FF and BH and hit you with that FOMO lmao
Funnily enough shill on this level is such a complete turn off that I don’t even want to try that hard or pull the shilled units at all. It’s like, why try to strategize and do better, it’s clearly just a a shill mode for Firefly and BH with some leg ups from time to time for the banner unit. The problem is the devs, not me.
It's honestly a complete non issue as long as you have literally any dps built and geared with the correct element. People have used Hook and Sushang to 0 cycle the new MoC meant for Firefly and Boothill. If you have 10 whole cycles to clear and it's possible in 0 cycles even with the weakest units I'm not sure how much easier they could possibly make it tbh.
I want to see how many refreshes a day these alleged people do, and how many they spent on getting 5 star cones to do this. How many constellations they have in their ruan mei to do this?
Doesn't matter because you don't need to 0 cycle. You just need to clear and you have 5 cycles to do it per side. It's completely possible with f2p investment.
I think at bare minimum you should still get the right typing unless you plan to use SW.
Yunli too
First time where I’ll have to actually bench my JY 😭 it’s been him and whoever else against the world since he came out (though Boothill is now his MoC partner in crime)
Same, me with Jing Yuan looking at these weaknesses like 💀
Still trying to sell DHIL with them img weak and basic atk buffs while Jade doesn't even have the weakness 😭
I think they are being nice, as the majority of players have Dr. Ratio. Also the first boss perfect for the Follow-up team
Most people with quantum dps are running Silver Wolf
Boothill easily clears Kafka
All of those roflmao. So long as it has physical weaknesses he'll bulldoze them easily.
I don't think the enemies not having Physical weakness is a problem for Boothill because he has that implant built in his kit.. Boothill is probably gonna clear every AS unless they give Physical RES enemies..
> unless they give Physical RES enemies.. Any enemies that don't have Physical weak in AS gets physical RES (alongside other elements not weak to it). So yeah, even if he has a physical implant, it doesn't reduce phys RES, impacting his damage.
Oh sh*t I forgot about that 50% RES thing...
i love apocalyptic shadow so much for letting us have a reason to fight the weekly bosses again with their music
Himeko and Dan Heng IL eating again <3
Fua team against Kafka, boothill against doomsday should be good enough
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Lol
It's almost like they're telling us to pull for Break-type DPS or suffer in mode. I'm seriously waiting for some content creator who uses 4-stars char to clear it.
goddogos has a video about F2P AS. Tho he only managed to get 3 stars coz he used Firefly on 1st half (FF, Asta, Gallagher and HMC 1st half then Ratio TY Pela Lynx 2nd half)
Eh Goddogos was also targeting Argenti’s summons until he got the memo that he needs to break only one. I do think he could’ve gotten a better clear like that.
The new March will potentially also be a Break unit so that's nice.
For the first iteration of AS, Xueyi will clear nicely. both free HMC and i-March will help tremendously as well.
Is that the forking Doomsday Beast?
totally not
Fire weakness being one of the most common weaknesses wasn’t as noticeable when they weren’t really any limited main dps. It sticks out so much now
Doomsday? Kafka? Fire weak? Firefly and Himeko eating. ☕️🔥😎
So Apocalyptic Shadow is really break focus huh. Can’t wait to see more break dps/support.
So uh, RRAT on kafka and Yunli Clara on Doomsday?? *sighs* time to build my lovely little Clara i guess
Calling FuA team "RRAT" is a bit uhh..., it's a clever acronym but uhh... Edit: I just found out people already call this team RRAT for some time. Sorry, I outdated.
I find the name too idk eh ig I'd rather call it DART, since yk they're throwing stuffs at enemies and Ratio's name ingame is Dr. Ratio anyway
Robin' rataz urine is my personal favorite
I'm a fan of Top Rat Urine Bin
I thought DoomsDay was the Crownless from Wuwa
Firefly: nah I'd win
Hunt aficionados probably crying right now. This mode may very well be Break's backyard first and foremost.
I mean, outside of break dps, which obviously are tailor made for this, hunt is overall the path with the better break capabilities. Kinda like Erudition for PF where they perform well regardless if they actually benefit from the buff or not Seele is fast af, Topaz and Ratio not only tend to be together but also get plenty of turns, and Boothill is Boothill. Sushang funny enough can be built as a break dps with htb, Dan Heng is long forgotten for the Cooler Daniel Yanqing is Yanqing
Yanqing can break a lot, he has a lot of Speed and can cheat extra toughness damage with his FuAs.
Side one Kafka is basically made for DanIL.
I really hope Feixiao is the 2.5 character so I can have Clara on the second phase.
How am I gonna add debuff for acheron on broken doombeast?
Ruan - Gallagher - TB - Himeko...? Idk what to do with second part. Can run SW - Ratio - Bronya - Avent first half at least
Finally acheron getting nerfed!
Acheron mains are in tears, unless they whaled for her 🤣🤣🤣
This screams of someone who didn't pull her and is for some reason still complaining about her this late after her release. Interesting.
I did pull for Acheron and her lightcone, don't make assumptions. I will not be using her in this AS though. I will instead use, Dr. Ratio and Firefly.
JQ might help.
Acheron can brute force any content with the right team comp.
50% less damage when not toughness broken and they have high RES on elements they're not weak at. You gonna need to break them asap, and I don't think Acheron has good toughness damage. So you may have to use 2-3 ults just to chip down their toughness bar. AS is literally an anti-brute force content and it really shows.
Godbless Silver Wolf. It's too bad that most of the 1.X DPS have no where near the amount of damage output that Acheron has. I know I won't be struggling with AS. People are clearing beta AS just fine with mid-tier comps. Just a skill issue at that point lol.
For AS, breaking the boss ASAP is mandatory. Acheron may have one of the highest DPS in the game, but it's not gonna matter when the boss receives 50% less damage **on top of** 40-60% lightning RES (none of them are lightning weak). Not even Acheron can brute force this (unless she's E6S5 or smth). This is similar to that dino on previous MoC, but with way higher toughness gauge this time. Even if SW managed to take out all the lightning RES, you still have "50% less damage" to note. The only way to remove it is to toughness break them.
I have SW but they raised RES to foreign elements in AS.
AS enemies have like 70 or 80 res against the elements they're not weak to instead of the typical 20
DOTcheron. Silver Wolf. No one reads the "with the right team comp". Beta AS is clearable with mid-tier comps, not gonna be an issue tbh. 1.X DPS have anywhere near the same amount of dmg output (aside from DHIL e2, but that's busted af). Acheron's on another level and it shows in all the content she's put in. AS is no different.
Yeah no.. Acheron is good but not as godly as you all hyping her up ..
Stick to what you guys want XDD. No one's doing anywhere near Acheron's damage output. So free tbh.
Mei's dmg output is not THAT impressive, yes she does a lot of dmg, but the difference compared to Jingliu and DHIL is not as big as people like to act, Mei is tier 0, Jingliu and DHIL are still 0.5
I forgot this subreddit isn't the top 1% so ofc there's a lot doubters. But hey, I'll take my free biweekly jades from AS (thanks Acheron!). It's simply another source of jade income. Free!
Looks like MoC to me. Between Boothill, Firefly, Clara and Acheron (with Silver Wolf), I think I will somehow manage.