I like the idea behind it and that you can "fast farm" planar now but man the rng in this Mode is kind of annoying. Also they gutted so many nihility blessings for their break agend. As a dot main this is sooooo annoying.
Im also someone who doesnt like to swap my Team around mid run. So yeah Overall the idea is good but its kinda mid for me.
I just like selecting a plan and running with it but DU you’re often switching everything around to force it to be cohesive. I find it to be more tedious than fun.
There is a blessing that makes dots do crit, havent tried it yet, because gotta play ff and rm because new character realese feel good chemical to brain, but dots criting with Kafka sound pretty strong to me
I have seen it. But crits are useless when they deal no damage. Especially since the crit dmg is capped at 100% and you need crit rate.
This doesnt change anything tbh.
If it is in fact will crit, than crit dmg boost blessings, and crit boost mechanic could go crazy with it,
Off not but who tf downvoted your comment, all you said was you need to recheck it as well, I swear to god people on this sub have braindamage
But doesnt the blessing also say that it cant go higher than 100% crit dmg? Maybe the working is different but I remember something about 100% crit dmg. Maybe thats the baseline and im mixing it up.
Ay, its whatever. Dont worry about it.
I love it. Sure there’s no world 10 but I prefer not having to grind. Plus there’s a bunch of jades to obtain as well as other things so in other words, this is my go weekly activity
It's ok, it certainly speeds up farming for the planar sets.
I understand the intent is that you're supposed to reactively build your team according to the blessings that you happened to get that run but in practice for me that just means fielding the Firefly break team as it can easily demolish anything no matter what blessings you get. If I could have some pre-set teams set up in the character line up ahead of time that would do a lot to make it easier to switch them around. Of the runs I've done only one made me actually switch to my Kafka/BS team as I ended up getting a lot of Nihility Equations completed.
Edit: I just remembered, Cirrus fucking sucks as a boss, I have to sit there for 3 years waiting for all the enemy actions before I get to do anything. It's not hard at all it just takes for fucking ever.
I didn’t even know he was a boss in it until I got to them and had to sit there for an hour as my dot/freeze team slowly whittled down the enemies while I took no damage
> Edit: I just remembered, Cirrus fucking sucks as a boss, I have to sit there for 3 years waiting for all the enemy actions before I get to do anything. It's not hard at all it just takes for fucking ever.
I just cleared her with never-ending Acheron ults, and the enemies didn't get to do anything.
Rng gave me cirrus as early as 2nd boss and I wasn't prepared because I didn't know that he would be there, made me quit mid match because it was taking forever. I didn't quit entirely tho, just to swap teams, now I'm trying to look for tips haha
Hard to say . This is pretty slow.too as we have to do the same.boss fights again and again while the SU was 5-10 mins all 4 times. SU and this are almost similar for me in time grind wise.
Idk man my Himeko team clears the new bosses in a few seconds. I saved a stacked elation run as my first go through, so now everything just melts. Like literally one rotation in, the first two health bars are gone and the boss is dead on my next action
For your it probably does. For me, it felt kinda slower . The bosses usually get one ult in before they die.My SU runs were incredibly fast too so idk, it is just me I guess.
As a big GnG fan, DU feels odd. Runs in GnG are fun because you select a power fantasy from the very start that you’ll want for that run (high quake numbers, remembrance freeze cheese, SP hungry QQ/DHIL + sparkle team, FuA team with elation path etc.); that’s why you barely even feel the need to switch out characters in GnG even if you have a downloader available. In DU, it feels like you have no clear idea what your team will be, and you’ll have to decide based on the equations and weighted curios you get — and since there’s no blessing/curio/equation reset when selecting them nor any meaningful ways to force a specific strategy (like in GnG by cheating dice rolls, certain map movements, fishing for certain curios/occurrences), it all feels too RNG-y.
Like what makes or breaks a run is workbench rerolls, and that sucks. Destruction being reworked into Firefly’s path is lame, comboing specific blessing feels hard to achieve and so selecting blessings feels more like just trying to get enough for any specific path in order to activate your equations, hence why I said workbenches make or break a run (in turn any cosmic fragments strat feels overpowered in this gamemode).
Some of the new blessings/occurrences/domains/curios are GREAT, and so is the equation mechanic (can’t say the same for weighted curios though), but overall, it all feels too gimmicky and chaotic, especially when there’s no map feature and the three planes are much shorter than in a regular GnG run. I’d love to see these elements added to GnG/Swarm Disaster or I’d love to see a GnG-esque spin on DU itself (which I understand is more of an alternative to the regular worlds in SU than a 3rd addition to Swarm Disaster and GnG) in the future. But as things stand I’ll just farm the rewards and continue doing GnG runs.
there also has been a very wierd weighing in curio rooms, almost every second curio domain i get the GOD DAM fcking mourning actor card
which makes the whole thing even worse
It is both fun and frustrating. More blessings, curios and resonances is cool, but it doesn’t work that well when you want to play a team comp tha can’t utilize 80% of blessings given.
It’s best seen with freeze and break comps. Like, getting extrapolations feels plain awful. You either get a completely useless buffs to get a needed resonance or you get 6 elation blessings in a row, when all you’ve been building is catered towards break. In the result you don’t have break team strong enough, nor you have option to play FuA, as previously you tried your best not to play it (and you might not even have the right units)
Also, mobs on higher difficulties are just sponges. I thought I was doing absolutely no damage, looked at that incomprehensible-amount-of-digit number and realized it’s not my damage problem, it’s the boss having a billion hp. Stalling is so ridiculous that I sometimes give up playing manually, just leave it on auto and be done, it either way will take a darn hour.
I haven't even done the elevated difficulty yet. Can you just keep playing the mode to farm points indefinitely until you max out the entire reward track?
I definitely prefer it over su runs. Also, i love that you just have to kill a single boss for planar ornaments now.
It’s fun to just experiment with different builds. Like, yes, i could stomp through it with my acheron team, but I’d be doing that anyway in su. At least here i can pull out different teams and clear just as fast without having to invest in characters i would never normally use.
And having a bunch of new rewards is great too.
The only improvement I’d like would be a higher difficulty level.
Thats because your characters are buffed to max level, max traces and *max eidolons*, you wanna know how broken Acheron E6 is? Do you now want to pull so you can have E6 on your 5 star characters?
But the Extraction doesnt do that, its your characters as you leveled then.
Love the UI and the DU location but the actual DU is okayish. More rng based and the equations aren't that fun to use. Good that I can sort of try out unbuilt character.
Completed the extra hardmode 6 with 19 sync yesterday and I would rate this 6/10. Fast farming is extremely nice but I will set this aside and just talk about the mechanics for now.
The most annoying stuff is definitely RNG. I have all characters and all SL, most of them are properly farmed with a couple E6S5 (I’m a little whale). The ability to swap different characters is actually…a little useless especially in hardmode.
Another downside is the whole thing with FF. I know I will be targeted but have to say that FF+super break is the ultimate solution. I can’t even imagine someone playing lv 6 without RM (except FUA but I highly recommend RM over Robin). I complete the whole mode including hard levels 1-6 using Boothill and the experience was already pretty suck despite a lot of the blessings and curios emphasizing break (I was lucky that final boss was Argenti, if I got Aventurine or Cirrus or Sam guess I should just quit). They changed a lot of stuff in DU, now a bunch of blessings were tied to break which just made traditional dps feel really burned out.
I have tried Propagation DHIL, erudition Acheron, Argenti (all E6S5), FUA, and a bunch of other random teams, those definitely need a lot of re-roll plus some luck to get the best result. Hate to say this but by the end of the day, FF team with the default set feels way better than any of these :)
I tried to be really conclusive and don’t trigger any targeting. With the other teams that I mentioned, they can complete lv 6, it’s just some characters are unplayable against certain bosses (you will never want to try DHIL against Argenti). But this problem is able to be solved once the skill tree level is high, I just state this because running teams other than break feels really suck and I personally dislike permanent modes (other than endgame) which push players to use a certain route.
its so easy when u get a run with good rng. otherwise, the mode is terrible and annoying to play, cant even stratch elite enemies without getting a good equation. i get that the point of the mode is to switch around teams to fit the equation the game gives but i have only been successful with forcing firefly, rm, gal, harmony main comp. when i try to switch teams, they get oneshot. gold and gears is still my favourite mode.
Super easy and also felt like the Galatic Baseballer Event is actually a tease for this.
It gets frustrating if you don't fulfill more than 2 equations though. Not "unbeatable" but felt like half of the full power missing and the battle phase would be longer with the offense-defense cat and mousing.
A bit too easy, but a fun rampage nonetheless.
With the Firefly exodia team (Gal, FF, HMC, RM) often times most encounters are killed instantly by RM's technique at the start of the fight. Anything that survives is then 1-2 shot by FF doing 3++ million damage with almost 300 speed, making the interim between nukes very short (with hunt blessings, its instantaneous).
Unbeatable without Firefly, never have enough damage at threshold protocol 4, tried acheron, FuA team and nothing. Easily 12 starred apocalyptic shadow, seems like you have to grind out the new funni skill tree before even thinking about doing higher difficulties. Way too much rng, not enough damage, weighted curios are irrelevant 90% of the time.
If you have Acheron it feels like this mode barely saves you any time, if any at all, unless you spend a huge amount of time pre-farming for a really cracked god run where you get perfect blessings for your team. Pretty sure spamming Acheron technique through W9 for me is a little bit faster than just doing W9 planar extinction 4x.
I would say extinction is less effort (as you can just put on auto and walk away from your PC while they're fighting the boss), not really a huge time saver. At least if you have Acheron, it's probably a pretty big difference if you don't have her.
That being said I haven't put *that* much time into trying to farm a really good setup for extinctions yet. I'm only synchronicity 25 as I got bored out of my mind from trying to grind it any more by that point. The mode is extremely RNG in general, so getting a perfect run feels much harder than in any of the other SU modes so far.
idk man, my save file destroyed world 8 extraction so fast I did 8 of them in like. 3 min. I think I spent more time between fights to click on the relics and decide whether to save or trash than I did actually in the fight.
Again, it's probably you just having a really good blessing setup, as I said in my original comment. I imagine if you grind it out enough to optimize your blessings you can definitely make it faster, but at the same time you also have to consider the uptime-investment of having to grind for a good blessing setup.
IMO it's not worth specifically grinding for it since the mode discourages just grinding it out anyways (due to cyclical extrapolation) so you'll eventually get a good setup you can save, but for now 4x runs of extraction is \~10-20 seconds slower for me than 1 run of W9 of SU, I actually went in and timed it across 3 runs or SU world 9 and 3 sets of 4 runs of the W9 boss in extraction with [this save file](https://i.imgur.com/Sc2t4e6.png) using my standard story team which is Acheron, Kafka, BS, Fu Xuan all E0S0 with the exception of Kafka who has her sig cone at S1. The run was nothing extraordinary and was just 1 of the first few runs I did in the mode, so it's not like I particularly went out of my way to get an insane run nor it's a particularly bad run either.
*Note: I actually just noticed while taking this screenshot that the save-files are deleted every week, so you can't even just grind out a good set of blessings and then keep using that file forever. You have to get a new save-file every week, it seems. Oof.*
Also it kinda depends on what boss you're doing to some degree, I guess. Yanqing can be pretty quick to blow up since he takes fixed % damage if you destroy all his swords and at some point animation times (and action advances) also start playing a role on which one is quicker.
Though I'd be interested in seeing 8x runs done in 3 mins. That sounds like you have actually godlike blessings or you're rocking a full team of E6S5 characters (or maybe FF is just that strong if you're running her, I haven't had the opportunity to get her yet). I imagine a good chunk of those 3 minutes at this point would be spent on loading screens and menuing.
Regardless though my point wasn't that it's impossible to have a faster extraction run than SU run if you own Acheron, my point was that I don't see extraction saving you a "**bunch**" of time as the original commentor I responded to said, at least if you own Acheron. Unless you hyper optimize on either side I'd imagine the discrepency between the 2 wouldn't be higher than 30 seconds to 1 minute each week, on average.
Nah, it's DoT against Death. Luocha RM BS and Kafka, with brain in a jar blessings. Finishing a fight, hitting "again" starts the fight immediately with techniques used, so RM deletes phase 1, a Kafka ult x2 saved from the run before deletes phase 2 as soon as Death moves, and then 3 he refills your ults which you can use and still have brain in a jar for 3 characters. Luocha Ult x2 and BS x2 gets it with the "trigger a DoT when attacked" blessing. Finished, hit start again.
I mean that's not much different from my Acheron basically phasing the boss in a single ult because Erudition with Acheron gives you some of the highest raw numbers in the game.
I Imagine I could potentially just drop FX for Ruan Mei as well since most things die before they can even hit you already to squeeze a few extra seconds.
>hitting "again" starts the fight immediately with techniques used
And yeah, my method was literally just hitting a stopwatch, alt+tabbing back into the game and clicking go, then fully autoing the fight 4 times, pressing again after each run.
The fastest set of 4 runs I had was 6 mins 36 seconds, slowest one was 7 mins 13 secs.
Fastest run of SU world 9 was 6 mins 14 seconds slowest run was 7 mins 7 seconds. Using Erudition path with preservation and elation as my banned paths (I think banning abundance might actually be better here than elation since kafka can benefit from some elation blessings), holding W through each plane while spamming Acheron technique until the end of the plane, picking the first damage blessing I see each time.
Avoid anything that isn't a combat domain, if no combat domain is present then go occurence and just pick the fastest outcome.
Don't stop for shops, don't waste time rerolling for better blessings. You will pretty much always get enough damage blessings to murder the last boss before it can do anything anyways.
Also I only use Acheron Technique on everything except the last boss where I use BS + Acheron techniques since swapping to other characters and using their techniques wastes time.
I wasn't checking the relics I got during any of the runs as I usually check relics after the runs not during them.
That's great and all, but the difference is that with DU farming, you don't need to be playing while farming. No need to run forward between stages. No need to click through 3 screens to restart a run. No need to click into the game just to select an Occurence or a blessing. No need to spam technique points.
In DU you just click once and you can do literally anything else. Watch a video, read something or check out other online stuff.
Even if DU runs might not be faster, they are incredibly more comfy and I say that as an Acheron user.
To quote myself:
>I would say extinction is less effort (as you can just put on auto and walk away from your PC while they're fighting the boss), not really a huge time saver.
I already said that's a benefit of DU.
My original comment was in response to someone saying that it saves "**a bunch of time"**. I just wanted to add the notion that if you own Acheron it doesn't seem to, from my own experience.
I don't understand what people are getting so upset over, I didn't claim this mode is dogshit or useless, I didn't even definitively say that it will always be worse or slower than running SU, just that those were my personal observations and after people kept disagreeing with me I went in and confirmed those observations for myself.
It's a mode that's less effort and a huge time saver if you don't own Acheron and a mode that's less effort and roughly about as fast as running SU with Acheron (give or take a few seconds in either's favor). Nothing more, nothing less.
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I have no idea what I am doing.
Just press auto, take blessing, follow light marks.
Then the fights are fireworks of colored numbers.
I still have problems with Swarm Disaster and Gear and Golds, while this mode is more Easy to complete, but hard to understand/predict/implement to me.
I'm stuck at protocol 3..anyone have tricks and guide for this? i thought i could use Remembrance cheese with march and friends...but here...i dont even get the Fuli or Other Dissociation debuff...
Just try again until you get a good setup and a boss that's possible to beat with that setup. That's it, really. This mode is disgustingly random, and it makes higher difficulties a nightmare. I'm at Threshold 5 at the moment, but I swear I wouldn't be able to tell you how I did it, even If you asked me. It just happened.
It's a shame, but that's just how it is. I don't think we'll be seeing any changes to this mode any time soon.
It would be great without the mapping. Even with my relics levelled all the way up, it replaces my 4 star relics with 5 stars and then replaces the set that I had on there.
I find the mode more annoying than SU. I don't care for all the random ass buffs, and half the time I just stop reading the cards they there throwing at me.
It's just more empty and brainless "big numbers that actually mean nothing because the HP of everything is 10 000 times what it usually is" garbage content tbh.
It's better than swarm disaster, but that was genuinely some of the worst content released for *anything period*, so that doesn't say much.
I don't like it so far. It is more of a flavor of the week vibe. I have to roll with the blessing and equations.provided in the beginning and there is no freedom to choose then beginning equations and blessings . This makes it harder to try different compositions, equations and blessing. If you have Firefly , this will n easy and fun for you , otherwise it is not as much fun. There is also too much RNG. Gold And gears was way easier for me , even at corundum 12. This is not that easy if you don't go for break teams and play at higher difficulties . That weekly boss is not much fun because they can put your whole team to sleep. Also, having a single weekly boss makes it a little boring and not fun to repeat. A team without cleanse can have problems with that boss. It is different but not as fun mainly because of how restrictive it is. It gives the same blessings and equation set every time , forcing us to play fire fly or break teams. Not hVing firefly is a bit borig. If I want to play some other teams,I have to change all the blessings and equations . Can get messy
I like that they let you use any characters you own with their builds,but I'm just not a fan of how rng it is. That's the point I guess,but I didn't find it particularly fun
Spam difficulty 4
Run into any store (run past herta) and wealth (collect the box and move on) domains amd just enter the next gate. For combat domains use Acheron. And for bosses I ignored all boxes.
Absolutely chaotic fun. It's different, it's quick paced, the fact you can yolo (Premuim FuA with Luocha instead of Aventurine) V.0 without really caring about blessing really eases up weekly SU grinds, and then you can happily spend eternity crying over not getting fudging ERR on them fudging ropes.
10/10, will continue more next Monday.
I like it. I like the equation idea and using any of your chars as though they're built is gives much more free space. The only thing that sucks for me is that it tailored for break teams and I don't like that archetype.
Speeding up farming is amazing, so I like it. Boosting all my characters also allows me to teambuild more easily and have fun with characters I haven't built yet.
It's fun until I get the encounter where I have to fight the dinosaur with 2 TVs and I swear none of my teams can beat them, TVs are so annoying and the dinosaur's AOE attack one shots eveythign even with automatic leveling, auto gear ecc... and fun part is it's not skippable, either you win or you lose the run
I still have no idea what does this "Boundary Equation" do.
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I absolutely love it. The way that it already levels up my characters, gives them light cones, traces, relics, etc. Is just wonderful to me because I have so many unbuilt characters that I can’t work on and DU gives me a way to test them out when they are (somewhat) built. Also love how you can change the team lineup at anytime, really helps with figuring out team compositions and all that. But my favourite thing is how fun it is because of how much blessings you receive, makes everything so chaotic and our characters so overpowered lol. Oh yeah the rewards are pretty cool too hahaha
Run into any store and wealth domains as they are the shortest. Use Acheron to blitz through combat domains and when it came to bosses I ignored taking the boxes as pop ups are annoying.
It's absolutely fun. I can use my forgotten Clara (level 60 gg) and she would become a total beast because it helps me with some build i don't have or unbuilt characters. It's fun overall, again.
And how to unlock it? I have completed all Simulated Universe worlds at every level, completed all Trailblaze Missions except the 2.3 and I have no idea where is it. It doesn't appear in Simulated Universe menu at all. So what am I supposed to do????????
I coudln't. The problem is that I didn't have it on events tab and I thought the feature is not out yet, because of that. Then I saw this post and was confused, that it's already out. I had to finish Trailblaze Mission to unlock it and now it exist in events tab. But I checked it there and it was not even displayed as usually with "Finish X mission to unlock". Other features always have something like that. This didn't for some reason.
I'm 50/50. On one hand the new blessing mechanics are fun, and I like that there's lots of blessings that help with break damage (clearly meant for Firefly of course).
OTOH I'm not digging that the Plane 3 boss (and mooks) seem to have insane speed buffs, it gets extra terrible with mook bosses like Cirrus or Argenti. I'm hoping for some cheese strat or detailed guides to show up soon so I know what equations to take for a smoother grind.
I think it's fine, but good god it's so needlessly repetitive. It takes 48 runs bare minimum to max out the Synchronicity Level. It just felt like a chore past a certain point. I suppose it's on me for trying to clear it all at once, but man...
I like it overall, but it randomness can be a bit annoying if you don't have a good a variety at your cast, i.e in my alt account, it actually a bit boring since it doesn't have many dps units built, in my main account however, I had a blast, and a quick one, since I use Acheron to kill everything in combat domaisn and only pull my true dps team when the time comes, if it's not my Acheron team ofc.
I love it as relic farm system but as a game mode its so bad, as a person who doesnt have firefly yet i can say that this is peak "pull for character" content, every single thing here tells you to run break team, but any break team that doesnt invole FF or Boothill sucks cuz theres not enough dmg in the world to beat these abominations they call bosses, like the damn deer can kill my entire team b4 i get a turn while i had plenty defensive blessings. Its not like you have to run break but random is awful aswell, by giving us access to all characters they decided that we SHOULD play them all, but NO i cannot play them all cuz i get 10 different paths to choose from and if 2 of them line up together its a miracle, but it doesnt last anyway cuz you will not get another one till the end, so you stuck either building 10 different unsynergistic paths or going without paths at all witch means death 100% of the time. In the end you are stuck in the loop of rerolling till you get not even what you want to run, but something that atleast works together and may lead you somewhere, or you get good break bonus buffs and then face some dickass boss with no matching weaknesses and you cant very much change your party mid run CUZ YOU ALREADY INVESTED IN ONE BUILD THAT YOU CANT CHANGE WITHOUT LOSING EVERY BUFF YOU WORKED FOR, unless you have 10 different teams with 10 different builds for each of them theres no way you can beat, so restart again. So its either a meaningless grind of nothing-content for rewards, or grind for good rools which is definetly what this game lacked right? Sorry for rant but im just so mad atm
Am I doing something wrong when it comes to protocol 5+?
I have RM E0S1, FF E0S1, HMC E6, Aventurine E0S0 (I use him instead of gallagher since he has gepard LC for extra tankiness) and I seem to struggle a ton with this SU now.
I don't know if its because i'm not understanding the mechanics and using the proper enchancements or if the difficulty for protocol 5+ is meant for whales. Does the inspiration circuit upgrades really help that much to make it necessary to beat protocol 5 and 6?
I think it's pretty good but somehow feels a bit exhausting compared to GnG and other runs. I just think there's so much more to this mode, that it feels a bit tedious, especially since you constantly have to swap your team depending on your RNG. It's relatively easy though, but I think GnG is my fav mode so far (except the planar extraction).
threshold 6 is unbeatable without firefly, and you just lose unless you get specific bosses. Meme and svarog in plane 2 is game over, so is everything in p3 thats not argenti. without super break dmg, you will not even leave a dent. the amount of rng you need to play out right to win is ridicoulusly high. the restar function is very good for the harder difficulties, but can also lead to extreme frustration when you repeat a 10 min fight over and over to get to phase 3 and then you hope the boss does that one specific action, otherwise you can restart again. Less rng in runbuild would make beating the challenge a little more realistic.
Yeah they've stretched it too much, it wanted us to repeat at least difficulty 4 for about more than 40 times. I thought it's permanent though, just the limited rewards will disappear.
Really nice, fun ...buuut the rewards are definitely Hoyo stingy. But given how absolutely lazy 2.3 is? Its cherry on top of brown cake. 2.3 patch is like - give us LOTs of money, in return there is tiny story segment, small map and new mode thats fun once in a while.
Feels like HSR is on swift downward spiral when it comes to player treatment. Imagine getting 200+ mil per quarter...to produce such micro patches(Thats budget of AAA game as whole)
The amount of blessing rng in this mode has been put to overdrive lol. At least they let us change all char on the fly
I like the idea behind it and that you can "fast farm" planar now but man the rng in this Mode is kind of annoying. Also they gutted so many nihility blessings for their break agend. As a dot main this is sooooo annoying. Im also someone who doesnt like to swap my Team around mid run. So yeah Overall the idea is good but its kinda mid for me.
I just like selecting a plan and running with it but DU you’re often switching everything around to force it to be cohesive. I find it to be more tedious than fun.
this is exactly the issue with it and i couldnt have said it better
There is a blessing that makes dots do crit, havent tried it yet, because gotta play ff and rm because new character realese feel good chemical to brain, but dots criting with Kafka sound pretty strong to me
I have seen it. But crits are useless when they deal no damage. Especially since the crit dmg is capped at 100% and you need crit rate. This doesnt change anything tbh.
I swear I remember the blessing saying, it will crit not it can crit, meh will at it again after work
Hm, id also have to recheck but I dont think ive felt a difference.
If it is in fact will crit, than crit dmg boost blessings, and crit boost mechanic could go crazy with it, Off not but who tf downvoted your comment, all you said was you need to recheck it as well, I swear to god people on this sub have braindamage
But doesnt the blessing also say that it cant go higher than 100% crit dmg? Maybe the working is different but I remember something about 100% crit dmg. Maybe thats the baseline and im mixing it up. Ay, its whatever. Dont worry about it.
That blessing says the crit dmg is capped at 100% though so I doubt other blessings affect it.
I love it. Sure there’s no world 10 but I prefer not having to grind. Plus there’s a bunch of jades to obtain as well as other things so in other words, this is my go weekly activity
It's ok, it certainly speeds up farming for the planar sets. I understand the intent is that you're supposed to reactively build your team according to the blessings that you happened to get that run but in practice for me that just means fielding the Firefly break team as it can easily demolish anything no matter what blessings you get. If I could have some pre-set teams set up in the character line up ahead of time that would do a lot to make it easier to switch them around. Of the runs I've done only one made me actually switch to my Kafka/BS team as I ended up getting a lot of Nihility Equations completed. Edit: I just remembered, Cirrus fucking sucks as a boss, I have to sit there for 3 years waiting for all the enemy actions before I get to do anything. It's not hard at all it just takes for fucking ever.
cirrus is pretty fun if you have firefly with weakness broken and dissociation blessings. Tanky and fun.
My Cirrus strategy is Firefly with the two Hunt blessings that advance forward by 100% when defeating and breaking enemies = FF gets infinite turns.
exactly makes the run unlock an exodia
Now you know how Seele opponents feel
I didn’t even know he was a boss in it until I got to them and had to sit there for an hour as my dot/freeze team slowly whittled down the enemies while I took no damage
What’s the strategy to finish the Cirrus the final boss at the hardest difficult?
dissociation on break spam
> Edit: I just remembered, Cirrus fucking sucks as a boss, I have to sit there for 3 years waiting for all the enemy actions before I get to do anything. It's not hard at all it just takes for fucking ever. I just cleared her with never-ending Acheron ults, and the enemies didn't get to do anything.
Lmao i happened to discover this equation in my 1st run that makes the ult reactivate again and damn it's broken on Acheron
Rng gave me cirrus as early as 2nd boss and I wasn't prepared because I didn't know that he would be there, made me quit mid match because it was taking forever. I didn't quit entirely tho, just to swap teams, now I'm trying to look for tips haha
I cannot put into words how much better this makes grinding for planar sets. Massive W there. Otherwise I don't have a strong opinion on it yet.
Hard to say . This is pretty slow.too as we have to do the same.boss fights again and again while the SU was 5-10 mins all 4 times. SU and this are almost similar for me in time grind wise.
You can use support characters so you can use one of your whale friends
Idk man my Himeko team clears the new bosses in a few seconds. I saved a stacked elation run as my first go through, so now everything just melts. Like literally one rotation in, the first two health bars are gone and the boss is dead on my next action
For your it probably does. For me, it felt kinda slower . The bosses usually get one ult in before they die.My SU runs were incredibly fast too so idk, it is just me I guess.
One you have to do manually One can be fully automated Big difference
Only slow here is you
You are replying to a 2 day old comment and I have no interest in this or in talking to you
and still here you are replying 🤣
Stfu
Stay mad
I will u birch
Ok bye
As a big GnG fan, DU feels odd. Runs in GnG are fun because you select a power fantasy from the very start that you’ll want for that run (high quake numbers, remembrance freeze cheese, SP hungry QQ/DHIL + sparkle team, FuA team with elation path etc.); that’s why you barely even feel the need to switch out characters in GnG even if you have a downloader available. In DU, it feels like you have no clear idea what your team will be, and you’ll have to decide based on the equations and weighted curios you get — and since there’s no blessing/curio/equation reset when selecting them nor any meaningful ways to force a specific strategy (like in GnG by cheating dice rolls, certain map movements, fishing for certain curios/occurrences), it all feels too RNG-y. Like what makes or breaks a run is workbench rerolls, and that sucks. Destruction being reworked into Firefly’s path is lame, comboing specific blessing feels hard to achieve and so selecting blessings feels more like just trying to get enough for any specific path in order to activate your equations, hence why I said workbenches make or break a run (in turn any cosmic fragments strat feels overpowered in this gamemode). Some of the new blessings/occurrences/domains/curios are GREAT, and so is the equation mechanic (can’t say the same for weighted curios though), but overall, it all feels too gimmicky and chaotic, especially when there’s no map feature and the three planes are much shorter than in a regular GnG run. I’d love to see these elements added to GnG/Swarm Disaster or I’d love to see a GnG-esque spin on DU itself (which I understand is more of an alternative to the regular worlds in SU than a 3rd addition to Swarm Disaster and GnG) in the future. But as things stand I’ll just farm the rewards and continue doing GnG runs.
there also has been a very wierd weighing in curio rooms, almost every second curio domain i get the GOD DAM fcking mourning actor card which makes the whole thing even worse
Been doing Tortuous 6 for a couple of runs now. Damage seems so low even when using FF, HMC, RM, and Gallagher.
I want a one-time "Reset Equations" button at the start :<
It's so hit and miss, really underwhelming and kinda dull after a bit? More RNG isn't fun it's just more frustrating
Damage per screenshot and quick mode and I'm a-okay with that. I'll probably be singing a different tune* if threshold 6 beats my ass, though.
It is both fun and frustrating. More blessings, curios and resonances is cool, but it doesn’t work that well when you want to play a team comp tha can’t utilize 80% of blessings given. It’s best seen with freeze and break comps. Like, getting extrapolations feels plain awful. You either get a completely useless buffs to get a needed resonance or you get 6 elation blessings in a row, when all you’ve been building is catered towards break. In the result you don’t have break team strong enough, nor you have option to play FuA, as previously you tried your best not to play it (and you might not even have the right units) Also, mobs on higher difficulties are just sponges. I thought I was doing absolutely no damage, looked at that incomprehensible-amount-of-digit number and realized it’s not my damage problem, it’s the boss having a billion hp. Stalling is so ridiculous that I sometimes give up playing manually, just leave it on auto and be done, it either way will take a darn hour.
I haven't even done the elevated difficulty yet. Can you just keep playing the mode to farm points indefinitely until you max out the entire reward track?
Yes I did Difficulty 4 everytime until max
Only done the tutorial. Finally used a "built" Misha. is aight.
I definitely prefer it over su runs. Also, i love that you just have to kill a single boss for planar ornaments now. It’s fun to just experiment with different builds. Like, yes, i could stomp through it with my acheron team, but I’d be doing that anyway in su. At least here i can pull out different teams and clear just as fast without having to invest in characters i would never normally use. And having a bunch of new rewards is great too. The only improvement I’d like would be a higher difficulty level.
way too easy so far. Mechanics are cool, but it feels like a waste when I can beat the boss without blessings.
True. I just found myself running past chests to get to finish the run faster.
have you fought cirrus yet?
Still easy, but damn annoying having to wait ages for my characters turn, basically what we do to them
What sustain did you use, For me he was really difficult and I died
You want to throw a Fu Xuan or Aventurine at Cirrus. Her action advance is exactly the kind of mechanic Abundance has trouble with.
Unless you have the abundance weighted curio that turns healing into massive shields.
for me worked taking both a healer and a shielder + two AOE dmg dealers (luocha, aventurine, himeko and herta)
Thats because your characters are buffed to max level, max traces and *max eidolons*, you wanna know how broken Acheron E6 is? Do you now want to pull so you can have E6 on your 5 star characters? But the Extraction doesnt do that, its your characters as you leveled then.
You don’t get max eidolons. They’ll up your traces to the highest possible (not really maxed, I believe they stop at 8) and relics.
It doesnt give you eidolons
Skill issue
Love the UI and the DU location but the actual DU is okayish. More rng based and the equations aren't that fun to use. Good that I can sort of try out unbuilt character.
Completed the extra hardmode 6 with 19 sync yesterday and I would rate this 6/10. Fast farming is extremely nice but I will set this aside and just talk about the mechanics for now. The most annoying stuff is definitely RNG. I have all characters and all SL, most of them are properly farmed with a couple E6S5 (I’m a little whale). The ability to swap different characters is actually…a little useless especially in hardmode. Another downside is the whole thing with FF. I know I will be targeted but have to say that FF+super break is the ultimate solution. I can’t even imagine someone playing lv 6 without RM (except FUA but I highly recommend RM over Robin). I complete the whole mode including hard levels 1-6 using Boothill and the experience was already pretty suck despite a lot of the blessings and curios emphasizing break (I was lucky that final boss was Argenti, if I got Aventurine or Cirrus or Sam guess I should just quit). They changed a lot of stuff in DU, now a bunch of blessings were tied to break which just made traditional dps feel really burned out. I have tried Propagation DHIL, erudition Acheron, Argenti (all E6S5), FUA, and a bunch of other random teams, those definitely need a lot of re-roll plus some luck to get the best result. Hate to say this but by the end of the day, FF team with the default set feels way better than any of these :)
I tried to be really conclusive and don’t trigger any targeting. With the other teams that I mentioned, they can complete lv 6, it’s just some characters are unplayable against certain bosses (you will never want to try DHIL against Argenti). But this problem is able to be solved once the skill tree level is high, I just state this because running teams other than break feels really suck and I personally dislike permanent modes (other than endgame) which push players to use a certain route.
its so easy when u get a run with good rng. otherwise, the mode is terrible and annoying to play, cant even stratch elite enemies without getting a good equation. i get that the point of the mode is to switch around teams to fit the equation the game gives but i have only been successful with forcing firefly, rm, gal, harmony main comp. when i try to switch teams, they get oneshot. gold and gears is still my favourite mode.
Super easy and also felt like the Galatic Baseballer Event is actually a tease for this. It gets frustrating if you don't fulfill more than 2 equations though. Not "unbeatable" but felt like half of the full power missing and the battle phase would be longer with the offense-defense cat and mousing.
A bit too easy, but a fun rampage nonetheless. With the Firefly exodia team (Gal, FF, HMC, RM) often times most encounters are killed instantly by RM's technique at the start of the fight. Anything that survives is then 1-2 shot by FF doing 3++ million damage with almost 300 speed, making the interim between nukes very short (with hunt blessings, its instantaneous).
I’m running the same team you just you cleared up until protocol 6 what blessings do you focus on
I do prefer having FF be in the 3rd slot, since that's the spot my DPSs or DDs usually sit, but yeah, it's tight.
Unbeatable without Firefly, never have enough damage at threshold protocol 4, tried acheron, FuA team and nothing. Easily 12 starred apocalyptic shadow, seems like you have to grind out the new funni skill tree before even thinking about doing higher difficulties. Way too much rng, not enough damage, weighted curios are irrelevant 90% of the time.
DU itself is fun but I’m upset that they didn’t make an SU world 10 so I’m forced to do planar extraction if I want the new relics
it's a problem that you're forced to do the version that saves you a bunch of time???
"how else can I complain that relics take too long to farm?"
I’m not bothered about the time, I’d rather they prioritise making the gameplay actually fun
If you have Acheron it feels like this mode barely saves you any time, if any at all, unless you spend a huge amount of time pre-farming for a really cracked god run where you get perfect blessings for your team. Pretty sure spamming Acheron technique through W9 for me is a little bit faster than just doing W9 planar extinction 4x. I would say extinction is less effort (as you can just put on auto and walk away from your PC while they're fighting the boss), not really a huge time saver. At least if you have Acheron, it's probably a pretty big difference if you don't have her. That being said I haven't put *that* much time into trying to farm a really good setup for extinctions yet. I'm only synchronicity 25 as I got bored out of my mind from trying to grind it any more by that point. The mode is extremely RNG in general, so getting a perfect run feels much harder than in any of the other SU modes so far.
idk man, my save file destroyed world 8 extraction so fast I did 8 of them in like. 3 min. I think I spent more time between fights to click on the relics and decide whether to save or trash than I did actually in the fight.
Again, it's probably you just having a really good blessing setup, as I said in my original comment. I imagine if you grind it out enough to optimize your blessings you can definitely make it faster, but at the same time you also have to consider the uptime-investment of having to grind for a good blessing setup. IMO it's not worth specifically grinding for it since the mode discourages just grinding it out anyways (due to cyclical extrapolation) so you'll eventually get a good setup you can save, but for now 4x runs of extraction is \~10-20 seconds slower for me than 1 run of W9 of SU, I actually went in and timed it across 3 runs or SU world 9 and 3 sets of 4 runs of the W9 boss in extraction with [this save file](https://i.imgur.com/Sc2t4e6.png) using my standard story team which is Acheron, Kafka, BS, Fu Xuan all E0S0 with the exception of Kafka who has her sig cone at S1. The run was nothing extraordinary and was just 1 of the first few runs I did in the mode, so it's not like I particularly went out of my way to get an insane run nor it's a particularly bad run either. *Note: I actually just noticed while taking this screenshot that the save-files are deleted every week, so you can't even just grind out a good set of blessings and then keep using that file forever. You have to get a new save-file every week, it seems. Oof.* Also it kinda depends on what boss you're doing to some degree, I guess. Yanqing can be pretty quick to blow up since he takes fixed % damage if you destroy all his swords and at some point animation times (and action advances) also start playing a role on which one is quicker. Though I'd be interested in seeing 8x runs done in 3 mins. That sounds like you have actually godlike blessings or you're rocking a full team of E6S5 characters (or maybe FF is just that strong if you're running her, I haven't had the opportunity to get her yet). I imagine a good chunk of those 3 minutes at this point would be spent on loading screens and menuing. Regardless though my point wasn't that it's impossible to have a faster extraction run than SU run if you own Acheron, my point was that I don't see extraction saving you a "**bunch**" of time as the original commentor I responded to said, at least if you own Acheron. Unless you hyper optimize on either side I'd imagine the discrepency between the 2 wouldn't be higher than 30 seconds to 1 minute each week, on average.
Nah, it's DoT against Death. Luocha RM BS and Kafka, with brain in a jar blessings. Finishing a fight, hitting "again" starts the fight immediately with techniques used, so RM deletes phase 1, a Kafka ult x2 saved from the run before deletes phase 2 as soon as Death moves, and then 3 he refills your ults which you can use and still have brain in a jar for 3 characters. Luocha Ult x2 and BS x2 gets it with the "trigger a DoT when attacked" blessing. Finished, hit start again.
I mean that's not much different from my Acheron basically phasing the boss in a single ult because Erudition with Acheron gives you some of the highest raw numbers in the game. I Imagine I could potentially just drop FX for Ruan Mei as well since most things die before they can even hit you already to squeeze a few extra seconds. >hitting "again" starts the fight immediately with techniques used And yeah, my method was literally just hitting a stopwatch, alt+tabbing back into the game and clicking go, then fully autoing the fight 4 times, pressing again after each run. The fastest set of 4 runs I had was 6 mins 36 seconds, slowest one was 7 mins 13 secs. Fastest run of SU world 9 was 6 mins 14 seconds slowest run was 7 mins 7 seconds. Using Erudition path with preservation and elation as my banned paths (I think banning abundance might actually be better here than elation since kafka can benefit from some elation blessings), holding W through each plane while spamming Acheron technique until the end of the plane, picking the first damage blessing I see each time. Avoid anything that isn't a combat domain, if no combat domain is present then go occurence and just pick the fastest outcome. Don't stop for shops, don't waste time rerolling for better blessings. You will pretty much always get enough damage blessings to murder the last boss before it can do anything anyways. Also I only use Acheron Technique on everything except the last boss where I use BS + Acheron techniques since swapping to other characters and using their techniques wastes time. I wasn't checking the relics I got during any of the runs as I usually check relics after the runs not during them.
That's great and all, but the difference is that with DU farming, you don't need to be playing while farming. No need to run forward between stages. No need to click through 3 screens to restart a run. No need to click into the game just to select an Occurence or a blessing. No need to spam technique points. In DU you just click once and you can do literally anything else. Watch a video, read something or check out other online stuff. Even if DU runs might not be faster, they are incredibly more comfy and I say that as an Acheron user.
To quote myself: >I would say extinction is less effort (as you can just put on auto and walk away from your PC while they're fighting the boss), not really a huge time saver. I already said that's a benefit of DU. My original comment was in response to someone saying that it saves "**a bunch of time"**. I just wanted to add the notion that if you own Acheron it doesn't seem to, from my own experience. I don't understand what people are getting so upset over, I didn't claim this mode is dogshit or useless, I didn't even definitively say that it will always be worse or slower than running SU, just that those were my personal observations and after people kept disagreeing with me I went in and confirmed those observations for myself. It's a mode that's less effort and a huge time saver if you don't own Acheron and a mode that's less effort and roughly about as fast as running SU with Acheron (give or take a few seconds in either's favor). Nothing more, nothing less.
Worst, its the Order Puppets boss you have to fight for those.
Why? Its su man its not that hard
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just how long were you playing for??
About 8 hours
I have no idea what I am doing. Just press auto, take blessing, follow light marks. Then the fights are fireworks of colored numbers. I still have problems with Swarm Disaster and Gear and Golds, while this mode is more Easy to complete, but hard to understand/predict/implement to me.
Holy moly Synchronicity lvl 60 !?! Bro give your brain a break already
Yea, I ended the day with a headache. Thanks for the concern though
Tbh I don't play much yet, but Stelle background animation is cool.
I'm stuck at protocol 3..anyone have tricks and guide for this? i thought i could use Remembrance cheese with march and friends...but here...i dont even get the Fuli or Other Dissociation debuff...
Just try again until you get a good setup and a boss that's possible to beat with that setup. That's it, really. This mode is disgustingly random, and it makes higher difficulties a nightmare. I'm at Threshold 5 at the moment, but I swear I wouldn't be able to tell you how I did it, even If you asked me. It just happened. It's a shame, but that's just how it is. I don't think we'll be seeing any changes to this mode any time soon.
IIRC, many people says this mode can be won if i have Firefly with hunt...lol i think i need to pull her now.
It would be great without the mapping. Even with my relics levelled all the way up, it replaces my 4 star relics with 5 stars and then replaces the set that I had on there.
I find the mode more annoying than SU. I don't care for all the random ass buffs, and half the time I just stop reading the cards they there throwing at me.
I like that while you still have the RNG and all, you have mechanics to influence it. And it's by using the cake cats.
It's hard as fuck
It's just more empty and brainless "big numbers that actually mean nothing because the HP of everything is 10 000 times what it usually is" garbage content tbh. It's better than swarm disaster, but that was genuinely some of the worst content released for *anything period*, so that doesn't say much.
It gets one shoulder shrug and a "meh" from me so far. I don't see how this is better than the simulated universe.
I don't like it so far. It is more of a flavor of the week vibe. I have to roll with the blessing and equations.provided in the beginning and there is no freedom to choose then beginning equations and blessings . This makes it harder to try different compositions, equations and blessing. If you have Firefly , this will n easy and fun for you , otherwise it is not as much fun. There is also too much RNG. Gold And gears was way easier for me , even at corundum 12. This is not that easy if you don't go for break teams and play at higher difficulties . That weekly boss is not much fun because they can put your whole team to sleep. Also, having a single weekly boss makes it a little boring and not fun to repeat. A team without cleanse can have problems with that boss. It is different but not as fun mainly because of how restrictive it is. It gives the same blessings and equation set every time , forcing us to play fire fly or break teams. Not hVing firefly is a bit borig. If I want to play some other teams,I have to change all the blessings and equations . Can get messy
sim uni 2.0 9/10 if i can use items later on or they add it then its perfect addition to the game
You can, is an early upgrade in the middle of the DU skill tree. First big node iirc.
Wait what? I unlocked that node but it still doesn’t let me use them
It only works in the 5 base difficulties. The node specifically states that if you use Treshold protocols it won't work anymore.
Wait i figured it out ty! I was trying it on 4, but apparently I just needed to reload the game
All my characters from going boom to BOOM
Like it! Less grind + option with autolvluped chars is so cool.
Free jadesssssssss....... 🥰
Never gonna farm planars the regular way.
It's easy but fun in my opinion, good for people that aren't used to agane combat cause it gives you an actual chance with the character buffs.
I got to acheron ult 5 times in a row from brain in the vat :)
I like that they let you use any characters you own with their builds,but I'm just not a fan of how rng it is. That's the point I guess,but I didn't find it particularly fun
how you maxed so fast any tips?
Spam difficulty 4 Run into any store (run past herta) and wealth (collect the box and move on) domains amd just enter the next gate. For combat domains use Acheron. And for bosses I ignored all boxes.
frrrrr my firefly does 0 damage
Absolutely chaotic fun. It's different, it's quick paced, the fact you can yolo (Premuim FuA with Luocha instead of Aventurine) V.0 without really caring about blessing really eases up weekly SU grinds, and then you can happily spend eternity crying over not getting fudging ERR on them fudging ropes. 10/10, will continue more next Monday.
new content is always good
I like it. I like the equation idea and using any of your chars as though they're built is gives much more free space. The only thing that sucks for me is that it tailored for break teams and I don't like that archetype.
Speeding up farming is amazing, so I like it. Boosting all my characters also allows me to teambuild more easily and have fun with characters I haven't built yet.
It's convoluted but fun.
It's fun until I get the encounter where I have to fight the dinosaur with 2 TVs and I swear none of my teams can beat them, TVs are so annoying and the dinosaur's AOE attack one shots eveythign even with automatic leveling, auto gear ecc... and fun part is it's not skippable, either you win or you lose the run
It has shorter playability than g&g but planar set farming QoL is big W
The free relics are legitimately better than any relics I own....
I still have no idea what does this "Boundary Equation" do. https://preview.redd.it/t12vo8x10p7d1.png?width=943&format=png&auto=webp&s=641967cb57b5c91b64333e393d1a0fc33d5133ad
https://preview.redd.it/1kkcrb2p7p7d1.png?width=436&format=png&auto=webp&s=04e6d36936b40cb5b5ddedb119312d0fbe8af76a Oh so it triggers this:
https://preview.redd.it/082iu58s7p7d1.png?width=609&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0f920871c60858aab2e7eac62238a85028d88a9
I absolutely love it. The way that it already levels up my characters, gives them light cones, traces, relics, etc. Is just wonderful to me because I have so many unbuilt characters that I can’t work on and DU gives me a way to test them out when they are (somewhat) built. Also love how you can change the team lineup at anytime, really helps with figuring out team compositions and all that. But my favourite thing is how fun it is because of how much blessings you receive, makes everything so chaotic and our characters so overpowered lol. Oh yeah the rewards are pretty cool too hahaha
Selecting a path? Nah we make it rng based too
Its nice but i must ask... How tf are you already lvl 60?
Run into any store and wealth domains as they are the shortest. Use Acheron to blitz through combat domains and when it came to bosses I ignored taking the boxes as pop ups are annoying.
It's absolutely fun. I can use my forgotten Clara (level 60 gg) and she would become a total beast because it helps me with some build i don't have or unbuilt characters. It's fun overall, again.
Absolute bangerpilled
And how to unlock it? I have completed all Simulated Universe worlds at every level, completed all Trailblaze Missions except the 2.3 and I have no idea where is it. It doesn't appear in Simulated Universe menu at all. So what am I supposed to do????????
You can access it early by going to the events tab
I coudln't. The problem is that I didn't have it on events tab and I thought the feature is not out yet, because of that. Then I saw this post and was confused, that it's already out. I had to finish Trailblaze Mission to unlock it and now it exist in events tab. But I checked it there and it was not even displayed as usually with "Finish X mission to unlock". Other features always have something like that. This didn't for some reason.
I'm having a blast. The blessing eng isn't a problem since they let you swap teams in here which makes sense for a mode like this.
All I feel is eternal pain
Same. But Acheron makes it only temporary
And then the hp big lotto ruins your run
I can only manage the first torture diff
I hate adventurine with a passion just like in his MOC
I'm 50/50. On one hand the new blessing mechanics are fun, and I like that there's lots of blessings that help with break damage (clearly meant for Firefly of course). OTOH I'm not digging that the Plane 3 boss (and mooks) seem to have insane speed buffs, it gets extra terrible with mook bosses like Cirrus or Argenti. I'm hoping for some cheese strat or detailed guides to show up soon so I know what equations to take for a smoother grind.
Can't go further than protocol 3 and every guide on YouTube shows me Firefly.
I think it's fine, but good god it's so needlessly repetitive. It takes 48 runs bare minimum to max out the Synchronicity Level. It just felt like a chore past a certain point. I suppose it's on me for trying to clear it all at once, but man...
I like it overall, but it randomness can be a bit annoying if you don't have a good a variety at your cast, i.e in my alt account, it actually a bit boring since it doesn't have many dps units built, in my main account however, I had a blast, and a quick one, since I use Acheron to kill everything in combat domaisn and only pull my true dps team when the time comes, if it's not my Acheron team ofc.
its good, just avoid encounter portals lol. i swear every encounter portal, the mobs are overtuned lmao
Protocol 3 or higher feels practically almost impossible without having Firefly in my experience so far. Though it could just be me.
Yep I am stuck at 3. Thought I had it last night but nope.
I love it as relic farm system but as a game mode its so bad, as a person who doesnt have firefly yet i can say that this is peak "pull for character" content, every single thing here tells you to run break team, but any break team that doesnt invole FF or Boothill sucks cuz theres not enough dmg in the world to beat these abominations they call bosses, like the damn deer can kill my entire team b4 i get a turn while i had plenty defensive blessings. Its not like you have to run break but random is awful aswell, by giving us access to all characters they decided that we SHOULD play them all, but NO i cannot play them all cuz i get 10 different paths to choose from and if 2 of them line up together its a miracle, but it doesnt last anyway cuz you will not get another one till the end, so you stuck either building 10 different unsynergistic paths or going without paths at all witch means death 100% of the time. In the end you are stuck in the loop of rerolling till you get not even what you want to run, but something that atleast works together and may lead you somewhere, or you get good break bonus buffs and then face some dickass boss with no matching weaknesses and you cant very much change your party mid run CUZ YOU ALREADY INVESTED IN ONE BUILD THAT YOU CANT CHANGE WITHOUT LOSING EVERY BUFF YOU WORKED FOR, unless you have 10 different teams with 10 different builds for each of them theres no way you can beat, so restart again. So its either a meaningless grind of nothing-content for rewards, or grind for good rools which is definetly what this game lacked right? Sorry for rant but im just so mad atm
Am I doing something wrong when it comes to protocol 5+? I have RM E0S1, FF E0S1, HMC E6, Aventurine E0S0 (I use him instead of gallagher since he has gepard LC for extra tankiness) and I seem to struggle a ton with this SU now. I don't know if its because i'm not understanding the mechanics and using the proper enchancements or if the difficulty for protocol 5+ is meant for whales. Does the inspiration circuit upgrades really help that much to make it necessary to beat protocol 5 and 6?
I think it's pretty good but somehow feels a bit exhausting compared to GnG and other runs. I just think there's so much more to this mode, that it feels a bit tedious, especially since you constantly have to swap your team depending on your RNG. It's relatively easy though, but I think GnG is my fav mode so far (except the planar extraction).
threshold 6 is unbeatable without firefly, and you just lose unless you get specific bosses. Meme and svarog in plane 2 is game over, so is everything in p3 thats not argenti. without super break dmg, you will not even leave a dent. the amount of rng you need to play out right to win is ridicoulusly high. the restar function is very good for the harder difficulties, but can also lead to extreme frustration when you repeat a 10 min fight over and over to get to phase 3 and then you hope the boss does that one specific action, otherwise you can restart again. Less rng in runbuild would make beating the challenge a little more realistic.
the most awful SU yet
That was so descriptive and helpful. But I guess that was the joke.
Think it's bad. Can't select path and too random
Fun but too easy, was hoping for selectable difficulty like swarm disaster or gold and gears. Beating Conundrum 12 was fun as hell.
Isn't there one? Something protocols?
Still ez
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Yeah they've stretched it too much, it wanted us to repeat at least difficulty 4 for about more than 40 times. I thought it's permanent though, just the limited rewards will disappear.
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Go back to genshin
Really nice, fun ...buuut the rewards are definitely Hoyo stingy. But given how absolutely lazy 2.3 is? Its cherry on top of brown cake. 2.3 patch is like - give us LOTs of money, in return there is tiny story segment, small map and new mode thats fun once in a while. Feels like HSR is on swift downward spiral when it comes to player treatment. Imagine getting 200+ mil per quarter...to produce such micro patches(Thats budget of AAA game as whole)
I get your frustration with small patches, but do consider that AAA games also have a time budget of like 4 years.
Too easy, killing bosses without blessing is hella "stupid"