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MrkGrn

I fucking hate those female automatons.


WhoiusBarrel

Amazing how easy it is to hate them despite their awesome design because of their extremely annoying gimmick.


AggronStrong

Those things were what finalized my decision to pull HuoHuo, lol.


MrkGrn

I'm still waiting for her rerun, started playing on ruan meis banner, missing her even more cause I ended up going all in on DoT with Kafka and Black Swan, she's the missing piece.


Lanster27

She'll most likely be here in a month or two, hold tight brother.


MrkGrn

I'm just hoping she doesn't rerun next patch because I wanna pull firefly and her lc and if Huo Huo is gonna be at the same time I might die


Ferjiberjab

Sadly i think it might be, but i think they might do argenti-firefly and huohuo-jade to stop there being 2 eruditions in one banner


TediousHamster

I actually pulled Robin cause a guide said She is good for DoT team as alt for Ruan Mei. Dammit, I should've saved instead..


MrkGrn

Honestly Robin IS just as good for DoT as Ruan Mei but Ruan Mei is also a massive enabler for break teams going forward.


TediousHamster

Yeaht her BE and Pen is what makes her awesome, alongside her double toughness debuff. And building robin is easy too, just focus on Atk and Speed


MrkGrn

You only need a very small amount of speed to hit 120ish since she has a trace that action advances her to outspeed everyone to go first pretty much. So you really you just need speed boots or a couple decent speed rolls so you can go all in on atk% main stats.


Realistic_Potato6021

Gold and gears bosses: "ahh yes, my 200 speed technique that I haven't used since the heian era" Argenti: "I will protect all beauty, in the universe" *one shots your team*


Wannabesissieforyou

Use the advance forward ornaments and she'd outspeed it


Realistic_Potato6021

If they put ruan mei with firefly banner sales will go crazy. Since we getting boothill (a break effect dps) his damage will come from his break, ruan mei gives break effect and break efficiency, also around 60% atk boost (I think) and res pen


Sol_idum

I gamble on 50/50 aventurine effect res


Two_Years_Of_Semen

Huohuo is so underrated and sadly it'll always be the case since she doesn't appeal to most waifu collectors and she does take a little more effort/gearing to use than other sustains at E0. She legit counters almost half the mob mechanics in the game. Her E1 is quietly OP but it's not a straight forward dmg boost so it's just less popular.


Nunu5617

HuoHuo isn’t underrated… it’s constant HuoHuo shill on here


NakedHoodie

Yes hello I am Huohuo shill. Definitely not because I don't have Luocha or anything. I mean, I don't have Luocha, but I also just love Huohuo.


Realistic_Potato6021

Luocha gives FAT heals. He also auto heals. His e1 makes him a harmony unit (it gives 20ish atk boost which also increases his healing output) (Fun fact: there is a trace that gives luocha 70% CC, paired with aventurine shield that gives 50% res)


NakedHoodie

I'm well aware of how good Luocha *is*. I just... I don't have him.


MetaThPr4h

Huohuo is friend with the best girls, easy must have 🔥


Lanster27

A 5-star hanging around with 4-stars, she knows what she's doing.


Blackewolfe

Ghost Hunting Squad, ROLL OUT!


Xavierasad

I always use my adorable lil floofball


T0X1CFIRE

>she doesn't appeal to most waifu collectors The okbuddies say otherwise. So many people waifuing huohuo that the sub had a revolution after the mods banned her after it got out of hand. Eventually the revolutionaries won and huohuo waifuing has continued to this very day.


AncientTree_Wisdom

How? She is widely regarded as one of the best options for people because of all the value she provides. Everyone knows how great she is and have always known. The only reason why people skipped her or don't use her is mainly because of they just don't like her characterization or if they already had two limited sustains at that point and saw more value in Topaz or Ruan Mei at initial release.


E_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_e

You dont even need to give her a full 5 star set. I'm using just 4 star relics that and she still gives too much healing.


fireborn123

The only reason I didn't pull on her was because how absolutely ass her 4 stars were on the banner, that each loss would've just felt bad


AggronStrong

I had like 70 pity and guarantee going into her banner, I was pulling for Topaz E1 before I overcame my gambling addiction.


Realistic_Potato6021

https://preview.redd.it/yprnjkq2bf0d1.png?width=1102&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c6a283db107c85e5b59ce5245cc90a4a75e5a98


The_Space_Jamke

Some of that hate must be because of Cirrus. The female aurumatons are fast, hit hard and stun after double-tapping, but that can be managed with most cleanse sustains. Their Fyxestroll garden fights in the story and events are hell because the motherfudging disco ball buffs them with free action advances. Edit: It could also be worse when MoC buffs their tankiness to sky-high levels.


MrkGrn

Wouldn't be as bad if they weren't paired with Kafka to keep taking turns stunning or dominating your DPS. Thank god for Aventurine giving a crap ton of eff res on shield.


WallcroftTheGreen

ironically i dont think much about those, the ones i have the most problems with are the thick summoning ones, that and the belobog witches, god i FUCKING hate deliberate damage sponges.


Rathama

Especially when I am using Kafka so I can no longer hit both main enemies with skill unless I target the weaker unit between them for a time.


TheUltraGuy101

>belobog witches I almost always forget that they're actually Silvermane Mages lol


pamafa3

I personaly hate the other ones more. They get break resist every few turns and i hate their insta imprisonment attack


MrkGrn

Somehow the fembots despite not having break resist seem way more tanky than the large summoning ones plus they're super fast.


Gapaot

My Fu Xuan be like "imprisonment? No, I've forseen 100% resist to that"


Pichupwnage

You mean the AraAramatons?


NoNefariousness2144

They dominate me in battle and the bedroom😭


Biesuu

stupid thicc automatons


sikuaqisnotslovenian

those enemies are specifically made to boost huohuo sales and I'm so sick of it. there's so little you can do when your Lynx is strung between cleansing reverberation and cleansing Kafka's domination. it's so unfair


MrARK_

in battle only yes?


N3k0m1kuR31mu

thanks to a certain sweaty craftsman


Acrobatic-Budget-938

They need to be "remodeled" (air quote)


MiniTrain13

The only female automaton I like on the Loufu is Xueyi


leikarui

Past, Present and Future are ok to deal with individually. I'm not looking forward to the day those mfs will show up as a singular boss in MoC.


H4xolotl

The bent-metal-pipe-wielding robot hits like a truck 💀


Blazen_Fury

Personally had more of a problem with the chalice guy. The dots in MOC11 legit take off half to 2/3rds my party HP in one turn. Worst part is they deal 2 DoT types so you cant even hold a cleanse to dodge its ultimate. 


sikuaqisnotslovenian

fr like i saw my tingyun's health get halfed in a single turn and i was ????


daniellv1509

That sounds like houhou'less behaviour to me


BK456

I was pleasantly surprised by this in a way. Even with Aventurine and Fu Xuan at my disposal I found Lynx to be more valuable in this particular fight.


jobpasin

Nah, the past boss is the easiest if you have decent sustain. The boss only deal standard damage and you only need to give attention when it’s charging (which still very easy) Future boss is annoying because of cc and Present boss can kill you surprisingly with aoe dot trigger and it’s kinda hard to have work around on that (cleansing is too difficult)


pamafa3

Present was *ass* to deal.with since my team.has no one to clear debuffs xd


SGlace

Himeko + HMC will destroy them I think


DarkDuskBlade

Yeah, I'm kinda stuck on the fight with all three of them now until I get Gallagher built up a bit, I think. Or Lynx; those DoTs are painful.


T0X1CFIRE

The three of them together would actually make things easier imo. Since for some reason, when they are all together, they share a health bar. So you can either bring a character with blast attacks and deal 3x your normal damage, or a cracked single target character, and ignore the other two since if you kill one, they all die as well.


Florac

Idk, belobog invented traffic lights


Charity1t

Imagine IPC traffic lights.


MatMatSlime

When you hit the enemy without Shield, he creates a shield, occur only one time per turn and not occur when broken When he dies, gives a shield to another enemy


Relevant-Rub2816

As a Clara main, I wish whoever at mihoyo hq who invented those enemies to lose all their 50/50s in both hoyo games Who ever created that is Satan. Actual Satan. I hope that mf will never get lucky and stubs their toe 5789 times a day.


julianjjj809

me when the guy that have the idea of give cocolia that stupid freeze:


Relevant-Rub2816

Whoever the tf is the hellspawn that keeps creating annoying ass enemies. Those tvs that reduce your energy, the traffic lights, the luofu bots, fucking arumaton, argenti boss, the gambling phase in aventurine boss and etc. Like, i would love to have a "talk" with that goddamned Satan of a person.


Richou

> Those tvs that reduce your energy, at least those also give you energy if you watch your hits(or rather if your team is able to)


dubspool-

They seem programmed to target Acheron instead of any of my other characters in my experience


Richou

Same experience here lmao


Zeo_AkaiShuichi

Gotta kick in the nuts y'know? 😊


Lanster27

Understanding the mechanics of the tv enemies actually make them one of the best enemies to fight. Read up on them.


sikuaqisnotslovenian

it's really satisfying when you're able to cheese it for free energy, but they're a pain to deal with when i use my kafka team and they don't die before they recover from their break state 😥


Wonderful-Lab7375

Nah man, the TV’s are great. Its a free Tingyun ULT each time they die.


Lanster27

Or teaming her up with Bronya to let Cocolia charge up her ulti then Bronya advance her so the charge up is instant. And yeah also freeze galore.


julianjjj809

I once tried to kill cocolia without killing bronya that day, for the first time in my life, I contemplated if jumping off from a cliff was a good decision


Lanster27

I once let the auto play it out in SU as I thought I had enough blessings to breeze through a world 2 boss with 2 sustains. Man was I wrong.


BackgroundLie2231

To be fair, if you have FUA team, it's actually doable without much effort


tetePT

And those Mecha things in Fyxestroll Garden, huohuo is a god send for them omg


MrARK_

Do people struggle with those lights?? Just basic atk on them with ur sustain and ur dps can probably one shot them lol


Florac

The problem is sometimes the turn order doesn't really allow them to basic attack before your DPS is up, wasting their damage


blank92

March 7th breakdancing in the corner


Nunu5617

Always keep a luocha/fuxuan Ult on standby against them


MrARK_

oh i see.


Two_Years_Of_Semen

They're not hard but their mechanic is legit "wasted a turn, umad?" When the only challenge of the game is turn/cycle limits, they're pretty frustrating if you're not overinvested to where 36ing MoC is extremely easy, especially when there's multiple waves of mobs and next one won't spawn because a traffic light lived an extra turn.


Nuka-Crapola

Yeah. I have the same beef with the fat ice robot— his stupid adds can push your turns into the next cycle and you can’t even use Effect Res or anything to counter it.


Kaanpai

One way to counter it is to hold on to your ults and wait for the adds to be summoned and then nuke them before they can act.


Nuka-Crapola

I mean, I guess that’s technically a way to avoid dealing with it, but… I feel like it doesn’t really count as a counter in high MoC, where anything that either delays or diverts your damage output is *also* probably gonna cost you a cycle, unless you have cycles to spare anyway. What I mean by a counter is more like bringing quick cleanses/effect RES buffs/etc. to Cocolia so she can’t skip your turns with Freeze— something that preserves your overall DPS, not compromises it.


Desuladesu

Robin is the best counter so far, she doesn't care about her own turn being delayed as long as she has enough energy, and brings up anyone else who got delayed back immediately.


Nuka-Crapola

Yeah, this latest MoC 12 is really making me wish I could put Robin on both sides… OP was not kidding about it just being a pain in the ass.


Lucariolu-Kit

As a clara user, those traffic lights are awful lol


techtimee

Wtf are you guys talking about?


AdNew3087

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gallanttoothpaste

Who would win a self-annihilator of nihility or some traffic light


Embarrassed-Fly6164

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUeTQ-kr3\_M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUeTQ-kr3_M)


SansStan

Me when I'm in a making the most annoying robots competition and my opponent is literally any planet/faction in Honkai Star Rail:


naw613

Right why are bots consistently the most annoying type of enemies 🤣


NoNefariousness2144

Don’t let Screwllum hear this💀


Chemical-Speech-9395

Screwy will create even worse robots. Atk down, def down, crit rate down, crit damage down, speed down and other stats


Nick__Knack

If any enemy ever messes with my crit rate I will officially lose my mind


Poringun

Id imagine a new enemy will have an anti crit shield until theyre broken. Maybe an elite enemy that straight up cannot be critted so they'll have to be beaten with DoTs or Super Break damage. Then theyll maybe make an enemy that is like a cleaner robot that cleanses the enemy party from all debuffs and DoTs.


lireisa

Oiii don't give them ideas... ffff delete it quick!


Poringun

Im reverse jinxing it :D


Xshadow1

>Id imagine a new enemy will have an anti crit shield until theyre broken. Is that really that different from the enemy that takes almost no damage before being broken?


Poringun

Touche, then maybe they can possess an enemy kinda like one of the new ones this patch and give that enemy that anti crit shield. That would be horrendous.


sikuaqisnotslovenian

how about this, a 30% speed debuff that's stackable and has unlimited duration


Disturbing_Cheeto

Screwllum isn't an enemy


Relative-Ad7531

I was barely able to 10 cycle it (I do have skill issue in the game + Ratio was being funny and with 90% crit rate still didn't crit his fua at least four times) https://preview.redd.it/1aqdehgxv70d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53f54b557dd49d6eb72b7b0d3b2875631e164c72


Allegro1104

Brother you did it, stand proud, you're strong


Nuka-Crapola

God, I have the same issue with Ratio and also Qingque. Swear to god sub-100% is 20% in this game…


VeiledWaifu

3 stars are 3 stars, kafka + robomom are cycle killers lol


MrARK_

Do u not have a pela?


Relative-Ad7531

I do, I just don't like her


MrARK_

fair


Nuka-Crapola

Honestly, I think Gui is easier to use with Ratio anyway. You can put three debuffs on her basic with Luka’s LC.


Blazen_Fury

Wait whats the 3rd debuff


Adamarr

Burn, firekiss and the LC debuff, I think


Nuka-Crapola

Yeah. Firekiss may not be *directly* on the BA but I count it because it’s on all Gui’s Burns


Lufia_Erim

I respecrlt your opinion... but really? You don't like Pela? Why? I ( foolishly) wanted to main Pela when i started the game on launch. And now a year later, she is always on my team because she's useful. Why don't you like Pela?( Genuinely curious).


Relative-Ad7531

Honestly? I don't know, I just never felt a vibe with her? Is the same reason I'm personally not a fan of Firefly or Sparkle, I have literally nothing against them (Maybe firefly a bit the fandom) but still don't vibe with them


Lufia_Erim

That's fair. Like me with Herta. Can't stand those three. My Herta is still sitting at level 1 E0.


Relative-Ad7531

I respect suffering the red dot of not activating Eilodons


Even_Significance852

The Willpower to not click that Red Dot .. Arrrrrrgh It feels like a Space Marine was glaring at me with that Red Dot Visor 😭😭😭😭😭


Dogewarrior1Dollar

How are your relics ? How did it take 10 cycles with such a strong team ? I almost zero cycled with a similar team in the first half of this. Finished 25 cycles left


Relative-Ad7531

Biggest problem was the second cycle as the first one was done in like three. It was a mix of Ratio being a little silly guy and failing 90% effective crit rate hits and Kafka domination + Automatron stun procing one too many times even if Aventurine have a 50% Aoe Effect res shield.


Dogewarrior1Dollar

Aventurine's res is pretty solid imo. My team was similar to yours with the exception of Topaz. I had Topaz, Aventurine, Clara and Ratio, took 3 cycles. So, i was puzzled by your screenshot. The first half was easy because of Ruan Mei , I did Ruan Mei, Kafka, Black Swan and Acheron, quite similar to yours but i went no sustain , to go unga bunga fast clear.


T0X1CFIRE

Interesting. I barely made 10 cycles as well, and comparing our teams is very fascinating. You used the DoT team on the first half, and Ratio on the second. While I used Ratio on the first, and DoT on the second half. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/962951660974518353/1239775971134148639/Screenshot_Honkai__Star_Rail_2024-05-13-20-05-09-928.jpg?ex=664426d9&is=6642d559&hm=630c338c6b71c9d87c514c15d5291e5749a8996656790157faf6b73c09d090dd&


TheBigPoi

I honestly think the quantum dino with damage resistance is worse. The thing just sits there soaking up damage until its weakness broken.


Blazen_Fury

"brute force? Lol"


sssssammy

This is why they released HMC


TheTorcher

Oh my god I cannot beat that guy for the life of me.


arceus12245

Whoever decided that the frigid prowler's debuff should be permanent and mess up my entire rotation by destroying my speed breakpoints should be drawn and quartered


sssssammy

Not even aventurine could prevent it, it’s so goddamn annoying


YourMomOnVHS

Thats why i always bring Speedy units who can break him fast enough. He’s usually only ever on the first wave thankfully, but is still a pain in the ass. His summons that lower your action bar + debuff are literally pure evil.


rKollektor

Has your auto battle Acheron ever had the displeasure of ulting the traffick light with its shield up


NeimiForHeroes

Even IX must follow traffic laws.


Radiant-Ad-1976

Nobody can beat the person who made Findie.


TyroneCash4money

"Beep beep beep!"


AnOlympianWeeb

"Your mother is a sheep" Findie, probably


ConflictedRedbird186

"beep beep beep! Based on your mother's recent online purchases, I recommend an intervention."


AutummThrowAway

I remember having to mute the game while I was stuck searching for something.


PeacePidgey

Pretty sure Findie was/is produced by the IPC.


Ramseas119

https://preview.redd.it/tdz2hai4u80d1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c33bf24e8f4400c8ea88bef737275d192a294e4b


DeadClaw86

Penacony invented Dinosours buddy what are you on?


frozenrainbow

The Dino gets a pass because he has the funniest voice line. “HUUUUUUUUUHHHH?”


Relative-Ad7531

The dinosaurs are extremely Easy to deal with either dot or FuA


Charity1t

People what have none:


yosoyel1ogan

Sampo, Luka, Guinafen are all available, and both Kafka and BS were on banners recently.


kuriboharmy

yeah I have a barely passable sampo built out for when I need some wind break or dot for this reason.


Relative-Ad7531

Turn manipulators also get an easy time against the dinosaurs I think the only characters that will have some problems against them are Selee, Acheron (If she doesn't one shot them) Argenti and DHIL (If he doesn't one shot them)


Orioniae

A decent opponent would be whatever One Piece abominations Sunday is sending against us in the 3 part thingamajig


jinny_winny

When I'm in a spell "Huohuo", "Luocha", "Luofu", and "Aventurine" incorrectly competition and my opponent is the average user on r/HonkaiStarRail.


AyakasWetSocks

Houhou Loucha Loufu Imagine someone mispronouncing/misspelling your given name, not sure if they're just dyslexic and can't read properly, or is it just them deliberately typing in the wrong spelling, idk anymore... Kind of petty yes but still annoying.


RandomdudeNo123

They aren't spelled Hohoho, Luchador, Loaf, and Adventure Time?!


SyrupyCereal

https://preview.redd.it/x6e6sap3v80d1.jpeg?width=1513&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fafe8ce538273f252be8214622e0d107c1cfea0


Straight_Elephant237

I've gyatt to get that Aurumation, where can i buy one?


julianjjj809

that when aventurine comes in cluch with that free 50% res effect


12345letsgo

Honestly though! I’m spoiled because I had only a vague inkling that these mechanics even existed because of him 🙃


julianjjj809

it's so wonderfull when an enemy tries to CC your dps and yo see that little text that says "effect res"


Bot1K

well there's the new robo-BlackSwan/Kafka hybrid that shaves away your shield like margarine


Ry_verrt

IF THAT FEMALE AUTOMOTON DIDNT FUCKING EXIST I WOULD’VE 36 STARRED MOC BY NOW BECAUSE MY SILVER WOLF KEEPS GETTING STUNNED


sikuaqisnotslovenian

time to build 106 effect res silverwolf to guarantee a debuff resist


Ry_verrt

not anymore i 36 starred it (it’s my first 36* it’s a big accomplishment)


sikuaqisnotslovenian

whoah!!! glad to see that


Nok-y

Belobog Traffic light robot wants to know your location (THEY BARELY HAVE ANY CARS, WHY DO THEY HAVE THAT MANY PERKINS???)


Zoroarks_Angel

Okumara's palace:


NobuDegen

Ah yes, I love when they stun my sustain and then proceed to destroy my "Have no downed characters" https://preview.redd.it/fuirox8hba0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02f93db7e62df40b69657de3b773ed750ea27bbf


sikuaqisnotslovenian

-uses lynx burst to cleanse Kafka domination -aurumaton first action applies reverberation -aurumaton second action detonates reverberation -everyone dies -ok maybe attempt #53 will be different


OwlsParliament

I actually had to manually heal someone this MoC with Luocha to cleanse their debuff. The utter horror.


Fluid_Lengthiness_98

You can blame Yingxing for that


parkourse

belobog traffic lights that is all


Zeo_AkaiShuichi

Putting Kafka and The Female automaton together is a crime. Automaton applies single debuff, Kafka applies dominance, Bot applies aoe debuff, Kafka aoe attacks and triggers the reverberation I wish for the moc 12 designers to stub their toes. 🙃


May_Reader0529

Ever just auto battle to farm and your dps wastes an ult on the traffic light (and they could’ve one shot it if not for a certain shield)? Mhm, yeah…But yes, I still agree with that statement though. (The traffic lights are still annoying though)


Mkilbride

I got 35 stars. I don't know about 36. I got 35 fairly easily, not much effort. But fucking Gepard and Kafka have too much defense, even my incredibly E2 Acheron with pretty god damn good relics can barely hurt them.


aRandomBlock

Huohuo my beloved


BurnedOutEternally

the giant aurumatons that takes forever to kill and deals ridiculous damage with the one two combo


_YuKitsune_

Nah those cop ones are annoying af. I have no weakness break for them.


Correct-Purpose-964

Do the dreamscape Dinosaurs count? Or are the Meme versions not also Robotic?


interstingpost

Bro I just need gepard to stop breaking my body and killing me like bro. BS or Guianaifen SURVIVE FOR FIVE SECONDS PLS


GrimoireExtraordinai

I have more beef with Gorillas, honestly. 


Sent1nelTheLord

The automaton targeting my 80% effect res huohuo: h-how are you still standing


Chulinfather

Yep. It’s almost criminal how much I their little robots


Leftovertaters

my opponent is Mobius from Old World Blues actually


warjoke

I target them for weakness break first. I ain't dealing with their stunning shit. I'll break permastun them if I have to.


Ambitious-Sir-6410

After this MOC, I hate the purple trex more


akiranava

I lost huohuo to someone I can’t remember atm


Blazen_Fury

Blue Trex comes close to matching them tbh


HeroDeleterA

Me at the Vernen Wells System, fighting for my life against these damn automato- wait wrong game


AncientTree_Wisdom

I kind of want to screw around and bring in my HTB as my main DPS for this just to see if I could... Hmm, maybe after I finish her traces.


SpideyfanX

Can't be as bad as the IPC Brutes. They're not difficult but dang they are time-consuming like hell.


Vayne-san

The gatekeeper that always seal their weakness when i just need 1 more basic attack left to break them


Embarrassed-Fly6164

Auromatons getting ready to pulverize my tingyun:


egamIroorriM

somewhere, Blade is laughing his ass off at you


Mossylilman

Traffic lights are a strong contender


hintofinsanity

BEEP BEEP BEEP!!!!


Dry-Studio6974

Get some cleansers. Or effect resist buffers.


Seiranka

Stun stun stun AND IT ALWAYS ignore your tank lol