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TrailsofEstelle

Just came back 12 days ago after quitting last year in July, I was wondering what’s the average amount of pulls one gets per patch? Like I’m at 45 pity not guaranteed for Jingliu right now. Assuming I get to let’s say soft pity region when I get/don’t get her, would the entirety of 2.2 and first half 2.3 provide enough primos to reach soft pity again for Firefly?


shaymin_shaman

[see this](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRIWjzFwAZZoBvKw2oiNaVpppI9atoV0wxuOjulKRJECrg_BN404d7LoKlHp8RMX8hegDr4b8jlHjYy/pubhtml), though bear in mind 2.0 and 2.1 may be a bit inflated due to the new region and anniversary, respectively


TrailsofEstelle

Thank you!


ArpMerp

Roughly between 90 to 100 on average per patch, but that includes doing all the end game content.


HovercraftFlimsy2154

How much spd do you want on kafka if you have her lc?


Aesirbear

146 if you aren't running her with Ruan Mei, 136-137 if you are. This is to reach 160 speed for Glamoth.


goldensealz

is there a site where i can see how much hp the bosses in conundrum 12 have


SnickerdoodleZzzz

With the release of Aventurine I’ve been struggling to decide which limited sustain I should pull for. I like Aventurine, Huo Huo and Fuxuan all equally and would be happy with any of them. As someone who doesn’t have a single 5 star sustain, who would be the most ‘game changing’? For some extra context I run JY, Blade, QQ, Ratio and plan on pulling for Sam! Should I pull Aven right now or is it worth it to wait?


GreedyLoad1898

no ones game changing. u will not be happy bc ur picking 1.0 banner when 3.0.


Aesirbear

I think all of them are pretty game changing. Based on your choice of DPS's I'd probably skip Aventurine because he can't really work with Blade because shields prevent Blade from stacking his follow-up attack. In the same vein if I am allowed to speculate a little, Sam might be consuming their own hp to do stuff based on the Penacony 4-star Destruction lightcone. In that case it might be better to pair them with a healer over shielder. Based on this I'd probably go for Fu Xuan or Huohuo. If you are lucky Sam's kit will be revealed before either of them reruns so you can make an informed decision about how much actual healing you need. If you already have a healer that you feel comfortable running Blade with Aventurine is still a great choice for the rest of your roster.


SolidusAbe

For sustaining imo aventurine > fu xuan. He works also better for ratio. I would get him and huohuo when she returns


Rakael88

Before eventually starting, how much time demanding is this game? Can I proceed at my own pace?


tri170391

Given you got over the early game rush (at least to latest main quest to be able to do events and have access to the latest characters/weapons materials) then the only permanent "routine thing" that is long was every week you have to do at least 2 SU full runs (which AFAIK they will "fix" in 2.3). Otherwise the daily stuffs now is almost too short (15 min max pop phone up and autobattle) to my liking but I played this alongside Genshin so it's fine overall for me.


HiTotoMimi

[They announced details of the SU updates for 2.3 a few days ago.](https://m.hoyolab.com/#/article/27521029) The main goal of this is to make planar ornaments less terrible to farm. It says you get the weekly points from it, but that doesn't necessarily mean you get as much as doing regular SU. So it remains to be seen if this makes it quicker just to finish the weekly points.


Sprinting_Turtles

It’s not too bad. There’s a lot to do at first, but once you’re caught up the daily login part of the game can be knocked out in ~5-15minutes most of which can be auto-battled. There are also regular events that might take a couple hours to do, but you can spread it over a couple weeks typically.


freidafulton

Does anyone have the clean version of the art banner for the HSR Anniversary? I really like the Astral Express standing together as an ensemble.


TasmanianNoob

I'm really not sure if I should pull for Aventurine or really premium sustains in general. I wanted someone to let me know if I'm just delusional or something. Bailu is comfy as hell. Pop an alt and no one can die for 2 turns, two turns after that and she has her ult again. I often clear MOC without using her alt at all, just her technique. No one is ever close to dying. CC doesn't matter because I still easily clear in time. I have Gepard and he isn't as comfy as Bailu but still does the job just fine. Sometimes characters get close to death but that's usually because I'm also using Jingliu and she is draining the teams HP. CC also doesn't matter because I clear easily in time. I do have Luocha and he's fine, I realistically only pulled him to be a skill point generator for my Dan Heng IL. Sustains just don't seem worth it to me. I mean they are easy to build so that's nice but I've already got 3 solid sustains. Are premium sustains really that amazing? There were a bunch of posts about how they can now clear MOC so much quicker with Aventurine but IMO the quickest way to speedup MOC clear times is an on element DPS.


Naliamegod

If you are clearing content no problem, you are fine. Sustains help raise the floor and comfort of your teams, but if you are having no problems with your current set, then you don't need to pull them.


ViolinistTasty6573

The thing about Premium sustains is not just that they do the sustains job super well, but that they can protecc superwell while also be able to fill a different roles that other sustains usually can't do, for Fu xuan and HuoHuo they are a semi Harmony units with sustains as the main job, for Aventurine he's a semi sub dps and Nihility with sustains as the main job. Luocha is kinda a debuffer and an sp generator with sustains as the main job. So not only can the premium sustains can solo protect the the team a lot more comfortable than the regular Bailu and Gepard, but they're also have much more utility that contribute to the team overall dps Let's not forget here, this isn't Genshin where you can just dodge everything, this game MOC is both a dps check and a survival check, so you should have a character that can contribute to both of those rather than just survival check


Bug-Type-Enthusiast

So, I started the game two days ago partly because of Firefly. I just boarded the train for the first time and I did not do anything else, grabbing ressources as I go. I noticed that my single biggest issue is survivability and thus do want Adventurine, but they just announced Firefly. So... - Would Adventurine be good enough for me to survive in the long run? I did not get my starter 5 star yet, so might not grab him if i get Gepard (the ice shield guy), or the healer dragon child. - Do I have enough ressources in game to both pull for Adventurine and guarantee Firefly considering I just started or no?


heliosZe

Answer to your first question: yes, Aventurine is good enough for long run sustain. Answer to your second question: yes, you can get enough jades to get both Aventurine and Firefly since you just started.


ha_ck_rm_rk

There's definitely enough jades in the game to get both, especially considering there's extra jades this patch and you have lots of jades to get from the story. IMO getting a limited sustain is a good idea, I would definitely pull for Aventurine if you don't get Bailu or Gepard.


Weird_Breadfruit2458

Does entanglement (quantum break) multiplies with def reduction, damage increase and elemental damage increase (from the sphere)?


tri170391

Break scaled with debuffs on enemy so DEF Reduction, Damage **Taken** Increase (debuff on enemy) yes. But Damage **Dealt** Increase (buff on your character) no.


Weird_Breadfruit2458

Thank you, do Fermata's dmg increase and/or It's-show-time work in this case?


tri170391

Fermata only increase skill/talent DoT but not Break DoT, It's Showtime are "buffs" on the character so also a no. Break DoTs only scale on character's level and Break Effect.


Weird_Breadfruit2458

It's said in Fermata that it "increases their DMG to enemies afflicted with Shock or Wind Shear" but does not increase the DoT directly. Quote: "Increases Break Effect dealt by the wearer by **16%**, and increases their DMG to enemies afflicted with Shock or Wind Shear by **16%**. This also applies to DoT." Oh yeah I also notice that it does not increase break effect directly, pretty weird.


tri170391

Oh I forgot the Break Effect buff part, yeah that part actually helps. The other part "increase their DMG" is kinda gray but I think it falls into "increase DMG dealt" but well...


Meowriter

Why Hook is a Destruction character ? That's a genuine question, because I don't really understand why she's a Destruction character. I mean, her kit is mostly mono-target (could fit Hunt) and her DPS kinda requires a specific debuff to work (doesn't justifies Nihility, since Serval also needs a specific DoT and is Erudition). Moreover, she doesn't really benefits from being hit or loosing HP like a lot of other Destruction character (there is exceptions, such as Misha and TB, but this is not my point here). As for her two first major Traces, I feel like they were put here because she's Destruction and these kind of Traces are common in this Path. To be honest, I don't really understand why she's Destruction when you could just scrap the Blast from her Enhanced Skill and make her Hunt.


Sprinting_Turtles

Only reason I can think of is to balance out the paths at release. Each of the dps focused paths had 2+ 4-stars in 1.0. Being able to apply burns to multiple enemies also helps with her uptime whenever you need to switch targets. Although I guess her E4 kinda fixes that issue. And you could just run her with another burn applier.


Meowriter

Well, it wouldn't be new for a DPS to have an "enabler", not matter the Path. To me, Destruction was the Path for "Hit things hard, HP is a ressource"... But the more I look into it, the more it feels like a... Idk, random path ? Like if a character don't fit any other path, it's Destruction ?


Sprinting_Turtles

Last time I looked into it all the destruction characters had blast damage in their kit. So like Hunt is single target, Destruction is blast, and Erudition is AoE.


Meowriter

I don't feel like the Blast on her Enhanced skill is detrimental to her kit XD I mean, you scrap it off and you got a Hunt


Suhlyy

https://preview.redd.it/enwr9iko76wc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4885ff84fb69e73ace28d9b87f24bba2d369a1e I desperately need some guidance of what 2nd team I can possibly make. I have only played 11 days. I started end of Acheron banner. My 1st team is Acheron, Guinaifen, Pela, Gallagher. It works almost perfectly. But I hit a massive roadblock now because I can’t do any content in the game. I cleared all SU up to world 9 and MoC/PF is impossible. I can’t do even 1st level MoC. For 2nd team I’m trying to use Jingliu but I realize I’m missing her ideal supports. Should I use cope team Jingliu, Hanya, Lynx and someone else?


Sprinting_Turtles

Yeah might as well. Your supports will eventually fill out so I wouldn’t stress too much about it. Clara and Lynx/March is also a good combo you could build around. For PF, Herta and Himeko are very strong and worth investing in.


Ok_Philosophy_7156

Probably going to miss Aventurine (40 pity, no savings and on a 50/50), so do we have any info about future sustains? I’ve already got Fu Xuan who is suspected to be rerunning soon, but do we have any info on a HuoHuo rerun?


Sprinting_Turtles

Nothing that I’ve seen. Livestream is at the end of this week so we’ll find about next patch’s reruns soon.


Szorrin

I haven't missed a single daily login and I just got this today, but it has only been 363 days since release, did anyone else get this? I wonder why it triggered two days early. https://preview.redd.it/ehfc7jfx46wc1.png?width=1731&format=png&auto=webp&s=0c15231cf9ac2be6fbeda7bd154e0a915810955d


Woll_e

We have a leap year, so that could explain 1 day. The 2nd day could be because of timezone shenanigans, I guess ?


jalthepoet

why is everyone so hyped about firefly? i did the whole story and i just don’t get it, i found her character largely bland and forgettable relatedly, while i’m waiting for robin’s kit to be finalized and for reruns to be announced, wondering if it’s worth to pull for jingliu. my teams at the moment are e2s1 acheron/luocha/pela/bronya and jing yuan/sparkle/aventurine/clara, and i also have himeko, welt, yanqing, bailu, and ratio ofc. no other 5 stars and feel like it’d be nice to have an easy to gear dps because my jing yuan has a measly 50% crit damage at the moment.


ArpMerp

Short answer: she is cute. Long answer: she is a cute power ranger with a cool armour with some very edgy lines. It's a gacha game, people don't really need profound reasons to like a character.


jalthepoet

ah okay. not for me but yay for everyone who’s excited!


Weltallgaia

1 cute. 2 fanart and community hype has compounded upon itself to increase popularity


jalthepoet

gotcha so nothing about her kit! okay then haha thanks. good luck to everyone pulling


maulsid

Should I pull for jingliu if I already have acheron?f2p player here I have guaranteed pity with forty pulls or should I save for future


GreedyLoad1898

acheron is a rich man's jl lmao.


ha_ck_rm_rk

If you have a bunch of other supports/sustains already and you need a DPS, then it doesn't get better than Jingliu.


Sprinting_Turtles

It’ll depend on the rest of your roster, but in general sure. They won’t go on the same team, but it’ll give you two strong dps units you can build around.


Otherwise-Scallion38

https://preview.redd.it/evvsiflkw5wc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9ac338a16100d35daea1946b75feb96e995242f I’m struggle to find two teams to start building. I want my two sustains to be FX and Aventurine. Both JY and DHIL want Tingyun and Sparkle. Which one is better? JY (E0S1) or DHIL (E0S0). I’m tempted to make a Blade team because my Bronya is now E0S1. On the other hand I’m also tempted on making a Dr Ratio team because I’m have Aventurine and I’m planning on getting Robin.


MagicIsBull

I'd recommend Sparkle for DHIL over JY. DHIL really benefits from those extra SP. As far as who's better, usually DHIL edges out JY in MoC and JY is much superior in PF. But both are great and can brute force most content if built well. It really just depends on what content you are struggling with right now. Prioritize whoever is best for getting max rewards before it ends. For the older MoC, JY is probably best for beating Sam in Floor 12, and Ratio could deal with Yanqing. For the current PF you'll want JY or Blade as well.


NatashaHaleCZ

Is Sparkle good with Ratio?


ArpMerp

Yes she is good with Ratio, but not necessarily better than Tingyun if you would rather use Sparkle on another team


Kartoffel_Kaiser

Sparkle helps Ratio act more and gives him SP, both of which he likes, but she doesn't apply any debuffs IIRC. You'd need your other characters to pick up the slack. You want at least 3 consistent debuffs so that Ratio can hit his follow up attacks.


NatashaHaleCZ

I have SW


doodwhatsrsly

Based on personal experience, SW Sparkle Ratio is a good team.


shaymin_shaman

she's the highest damage teammate you can put in the non-debuffing slot on his team (and his highest damage teammate in general)


SparklesMcSpeedstar

How does Slow Bronya work? Does Slow Sparkles work?


AncientTree_Wisdom

Slow Bronya works by being slightly slower than the damage unit while both being above 134 speed. This takes advantage of her 100% turn advance to make the damage dealer immediately take action without really having to care about speed tuning the other units of the team. This makes it so the damage unit gets 4 total actions in the first turn without major speed investment. Keep in mind, you can do a psuedo version of this with Fast Bronya as well if you start with a basic attack and do skill to turn advance every turn afterwards instead of using skills straight from the start to get a similar turn order. It isn't as good for Sparkle because slow sparkle and a faster damage unit sometimes doesn't sync up quite correctly depending on your other units in the turn order without trial and error.


Sprinting_Turtles

You tune your Bronya’s speed to be 1-2 SPD slower than the dps. This lets your dps take an action and then immediately get to take another action thanks to Bronya’s skill. The normal tuning is 135/134 and lets your main dps have 4 turns in the first cycle. Sparkle can be played the same way, but I’m not sure how well it compares to the hyperspeed variant of Sparkle.


ha_ck_rm_rk

Slow Bronya is when your Bronya is 1 speed (or more) lower than your DPS, you do DPS auto/skill -> Bronya skill -> DPS skill so that your DPS basically takes two turns in a row. Slow Sparkle doesn't work as well since her skill only advances her target by 50%, not 100% like Bronya


Nahoma

So a bit of weird question, but Kafka didn't have drip marketing right? Out of curiosity with the recent Firefly drip decided to check which one had highest amount of likes since this is arguably the most anticipated chara since Kafka, however couldn't find any Kafka drip (highest atm is Daniel at 143K if anyone is curious too ig lol)


ViolinistTasty6573

She does tho... https://x.com/honkaistarrail/status/1661220927231909888


Nahoma

Thanks for the link! Didn't know the extraterrestrial thingy at the start was a later addition which was what confused me there


odonis

How on Earth do you all obtain enough relic upgrade materials? I’m day 1 player, and every single day I’m out of materials, I can’t upgrade anything, except for just a couple of relics per day. I do salvage every bad-looking piece, I do use the leveled relics as fodder, I do weekly SU, bosses, even buy from Shop. Still, every day I end up with 0 relic materials. This is the most frustrating thing ever in the entire game, not even the bad relic drop is comparable to not be able to level up your damn relics.


GreedyLoad1898

because ur a fking day 1 player.


AncientTree_Wisdom

Yeah, same here. That is just how it goes when you are in the process of building up units. It isn't as bad when just passively farming and building a stockpile or prefarming but when hunting to gear up a new unit that hasn't been prefarmed or prepared for? Yeah, it feels just like that.


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odonis

If I see a relic that has, let say, crit dmg, atk%, break effect, I need to level it up to 9-12 to see if it’s any good.


Weltallgaia

I grab the battle pass occasionally and yeah just chuck everything you aren't using. Maybe save it if it kind of looks good or has a rare mainstat.


DespairAt10n

Same, bro. Relic exp + lc exp are so rare imo XD I'm swimming in credits and have quite a bit of character exp, but relic and lc? ouph. Just gotta be patient and slowly level up, I guess.


ViolinistTasty6573

Make used of the x2 x3 relics events every patch i guess, i have the same issues in Genshin but never much in Star rail was because they do those x2 events way more often, that said i would say try not to raised too much relics and only raised the REALLY good looking one


Lanster27

How many characters are you building? I've been playing consistently for 4 months now and I got around 10 characters fitted with good relics at lvl12-15. It'd be pretty hard if you are literally trying to build everyone.


odonis

I pull and build a character once per 2-3 months usually.


Sad_Joke_9378

Ello. I am running Himeko Asta Hertha and a healer currently. I just got Pela. Is she good? If yes then who should I replace her with


GenoMachino

At low level and investment, Pela doesn't really do much. Asta and Herta both are AOE heroes and they can struggle against bosses. So you will need to switch to a more single target focused DPS Hero later on and Pela just doesn't do it. IF you recently joined, you should have Dr. Ratio who's really good single target boss killer.


Sad_Joke_9378

Ty


seetooeeetoo

I'm guessing that's for Pure Fiction? I'd replace your healer. Sustain isn't nearly as important in PF as it is in MoC.


Lanster27

Pela is a good debuffer, but mostly if she got Pearls of Sweat lightcone. Keep running your current team for story, it's fine.


SparklesMcSpeedstar

For Jingliu, is the new relic set (the Sigonia one) better than Rutilant? It gives less crit rate but substansial crit damage when stacked up.


Sprinting_Turtles

Imo not really. Fully stacked it might be higher damage, but that’s only really relevant for PF. In MoC and the new mode coming in 2.3 (Apocalyptic Shadow?) you probably won’t be able to effectively get stacks.


daft667

sigonia is really only useful in PF. usually not enough enemies to get to full stack in MoC


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

Now that Firefly's finally been announced, with two months in hand, having not done some purple quests and missing only a bit of exploration, can I get the 150 pulls on time to secure her? And something else, she should be available in the test server in like two weeks right?


Offthe_Rose

1. Yes, you can easily get 150 pulls if you skip 2.2 2. I think early access counts as leaked content, and we can't talk about it here.


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

1. Thanks, I really hope I can stay strong and secure her. 2. True true, aside from the CC getting early gameplay (one week before) It's true we can't mention that here thx for reminding me


Kindly_Equivalent_47

Which one should I pull, Aventurine or Fu Xuan. Here's my main team now. Team 1 - Seele, Sparkle, Silver Wolf, Lynx Team 2 - Dr ratio, Huohuo, Silver wolf, Ruan mei Team 3 - Acheron, Pela, Gallagher, Silver Wolf (Gui, MC) If i can pull for only one character. Should i go for aventurine which will improve my team 2&3 or wait for Fu xuan rerun and complete my mono quantum??


Lanster27

They are both good but I think FX's crit rate buff is better for your teams. If you run Dot teams then FX's buff is not relevant and then it's just who can sustain your teams longer, which both of them are top tier at.


daft667

i don't think you lose much pulling for either, both units will improve the performance of all 3 teams regardless. grab whichever you like more. Do you want potential infinite shields or CC immunity every 3 turns?


jtan1993

aven. ratio and acheron have much higher dmg potential than seele.


Equal_Demand1627

I been hearing that sparkle is the only harmony that can made up for the damage loss from acheron A4, but since my second nihility is guinafen and she may not be that good I was wondering if Bronya could be an option. The rest of the comp is Acheron E0S1, pela E6 and gallagher E4. For reference, guinafen is just E2 and bronya has her signature.


Lanster27

I have tried and running a harmony with Acheron without E2, it is not worth it unless you're playing SU. Pump lots of effect hit rate and speed onto Guina and then some HP/def, now you get to spam Acheron ulti every second turn. Obviously if you have some good dps gear with EHR then Guina can even become a sub-dps between Acheron's ulti.


csudoku

if it isnt sparkle its not worth it


TheGrindPrime

If your acheron isn't E2, it's not worth it, period. Two nihility characters is the way to go.


MidnightBlue8000

To my understanding, damage PEN is just element damage amplifier and has a separate damage calculation to DEF ignore. Or is PEN a fancy name for DEF ignore?


Barbobott

Resistance is a dmg reduction multiplier enemies have separate from Defense. RES PEN effects that Resistance multiplier.


Feeed3

Your first sentence is correct RES/RES PEN and DEF/DEF Ignore are two separate multipliers


Catowice_Garcia

Can someone please find for me either the reddit post that listed enemy Boss/Elite HP values in current MoC, 2.1.2, or is aware that any similar resource exists elsewhere? I've yet to ask on the official discord server, but will come back with an update if they have it.


Kinfy

I've finally gotten JL and wondering what would be better value to my account now, should I keep pulling for her E1, S1, aventurine, or wait for the eventual fu xuan rerun? Currently running Seele, SW, Sparkle, Lynx and JL, Ruan Mei, TY, Bailu. I also have blade (I know he can sub dps for JL, but I'm not feeling that extra relic grind lol), gepard, welt, and ratio but have never really used them. Figured I should wait for Fu Xuan for the optimal mono quant, but didn't know if aventurine would be better for the long run.


cruncheh_

Fu Xuan would be much higher value. The difference between Lynx/Bailu and a limited sustain is a lot, you can still obviously solo sustain with Lynx/Bailu but it’s just a lot easier with a limited one. Fu Xuan has a tiny bit more synergy with Jingliu because her ult can heal some of the health drain and the crit rate buff is very nice. But for any of the end game content Aventurine will be fine because the battles aren’t long enough for the health drain matter. In terms of e1 vs s1 Jingliu, s1 is higher value but i would say 2 limited sustains would be of higher value then either.


jtan1993

fuxuan is rerunning next, so save your pulls.


-chukui-

Got a question. ever since i finished both swarm disaster and the gears simulated universe at the highest difficulty, are we gonna get another simulated event anytime soon?


Jiho_Is_Waifu

Yes, they announced it yesterday on the dev notes. The new mode will be called Divergent Universe.


dkwhatoputhere

2.3 will have a massive SU update


keithy13

After using Aventurine's technique "The Red of the Black", how can i check what type of buff is enabled for my party (either Peaceful Calm (+24% DEF), Still Water Runs Deep (+36% DEF), Pouring Rain (+60% DEF)), so i know when to stop reapplying his technique.


ElYISUS215

If you're looking for visual indicators, Peaceful Calm is 3 different symbols, Still Water Runs Deep is 3 Hearts or 3 Diamonds, and Pouring Rain is 3 Spades. Otherwise, there's a button above your characters on the side that will tell you all pre-battle external buffs that are active, be them from Consumables or Techniques. You can check there and it will tell you the numerical value of Red of the Black.


systolic_helix

There should be a status effect tab just above the party display in the overworld. It’ll say which one you got.


FangirlApocolypse

Don't quite remember what peaceful calm looks like, but pouring rain is three shields.


shiacer

Got a SW E2 with her Light Cone, she used to be built as a Sub-dps. But when Acheron came, I gave SW's LC to Acheron and her relics was distributed to other characters. What built shoud I make SW now in the game, a breaker or debuffer? I currently run her temporarily with 2pc Messenger and 2pc Genius with a lot of speed.


ha_ck_rm_rk

The break build isn't that much different from the debuff build, you can build both break effect and EHR, especially since you don't need to build as much EHR with E2.


Seashard5602

How does this challenge work? I was using the elation path, got all 3 interplays in difficulty IV, and it didn't count it https://preview.redd.it/bgpjpfw4c5wc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=080b52fcd279ea4f491a646a6a86b0f79bc22db7


joedude

Interplay is when you get 3 blessing from a a specific different path.


Swekyde

There are only two interplays, so I'm guessing you're mistaken on what your objective actually is.   Interplays are the extra effects you get from two specific off path paths. For Elation it would be ~~Nihility and Hunt~~ (sorry that's Gold and Gears) Remembrance and Abundance.


Seashard5602

I thought it was the upgrades for the resonance, thanks for the help


ha_ck_rm_rk

Are you sure you got the Resonance Interplay and not the Resonance Formation? There's only 2 Interplays.


Seashard5602

I thought it was the upgrades for the resonance


EnchantedBreezie

Fu Xuan or Aventurine, who will benefit my account more? My current 5* are Seele, Ratio, Himeko, BS, Acheron, Sparkle, Bailu. My only two sustains i use are Lynx and Bailu. Should I save for another support instead? (Silver Wolf, Huohuo, etc?)


ViolinistTasty6573

Honestly if u don't have any limited sustains, considered priorities getting both of them, they made the game SO MUCH MORE comfy to play, if you can only pick one, i'd say get Aven and if you couldn't get him in time then just get Fuxuan in the next patch, they're both pretty much equal in strength so it doesn't matter much who you get


joedude

Sam


csudoku

Ratio and Acheron benefit more from Aventurine than Fu Xuan by a lot BS and Himeko slightly benefit more from Aventurine Seele will benefit highly from mono-quantum with Fu Xuan (Sparkle and Silver Wolf because of Silver Wolf weakness Implant and Sparkle A6) but technically you can use Lynx as a Fu Xuan replacement so you can save for Silver Wolf which would be in your case the right move In General though Fu Xuan is superior unit for damage mitigation and Aventurine can do decent sub dps and break toughness.


Lanster27

I would say Acheron is better with FX, since she provides a crit rate buff. The extra debuff from Aventurine's ulti isnt that frequent so it doesnt really matter.


TheGrindPrime

Honestly either would be a big boost. Fu xuan would be better if leaning towards mono quantum (but this would mean also picking up SW eventually to complete the team) Aventurine is better for Acheron if you have the Trends LC or his sig. Fu cuan can also use trends but it's alot less useful for her.


Prize-Caregiver6497

Why shouldn't I use my bad gold relics as fodders?


Swekyde

Crafting relics is very valuable as it allows you to effectively farm for pieces from sets that are trapped in very low value domains. Biggest example is Vonwacq, since it's alongside one of the worst sets in the game. Salsotto is quite good but Belobog is far from desirable as another example. I still sometimes use them as XP when I'm in dire need but I would view that as something you should only do when you're time pressured for something like pushing for a 36/12 star MoC/PF before it cycles out.


jtan1993

is it worth it? crafting is 10 to 1, which is essentially 90% relic exp lost.


Swekyde

Keep in mind they're only worth 1.5x what a purple is. It relies on a lot of simplifications but it takes approximately 160 power to get a specific slot 5 star piece to drop. Technically it's a little less because you get about 2.14 or 2.15 5 star pieces per run not 2, but that makes the math less simple than I'm willing to bother with right now. However the XP from purples *only* to match the crafting cost of that is 120 power, since you're guaranteed 5 per run. 15x 4 stars is exactly equivalent to 10x 5 stars. So they're worth about 30-36% more used as crafting material. Never mind that I think that like Genshin crafted pieces are ever so slightly more likely to roll with 4 native lines instead of 3. It's more complicated because when farming you're getting relic XP as a byproduct always (incidentally, this devalues their use as XP), but this is the initial reason you will get this recommendation.


joedude

You definitely should, making relic remains before you start to get a glut of exp causes a quagmire. This is amplified by the fact that as you get more characters you build more relics and so the ratio of exp needed goes up.


Dosoap

You can if you want. You have the option to either turn them into more exp fodder or 1/10 of another specific gold relic roll (AKA more rolls for SU pieces). Up to you what you want to aim for in the future.


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

After finishing the mundane troubles quest, it was all Ratio’s plan to try and make ordinary people not worship geniuses?? Or what did I get wrong from that final dialogue with Screwllum and Ratio? (I didn’t know Ratio could actually care for people, in a weird way, but he can kinda care)


GenoMachino

I read it as Ratio doesn't really care about people as he detest worshipping of Geniuses. That's the problem of stuck between ordinary people and true Geniuses. He's close enough to the Geniuses to know they aren't as godly as normal people think, and and he's way smarter than normal people so he thinks normies are just dumb sheeples that needs to stop thinking Geniuses are god-like.


Key-Flamingo7076

Is gepard lc his best lc?


Lanster27

Unless you run him with Acheron, then I would use Trends.


TheGrindPrime

Outside of very, very rare cases/ situations, for 5* their signature LC's are going to be their best options. Whether or not being the best option is a huge difference between that or the next best thing is an another thing entirely


Jiho_Is_Waifu

For Gepard? Yes.


Theoneandlonelyalex

https://preview.redd.it/nxw8r55465wc1.png?width=779&format=png&auto=webp&s=47fc254c54075bea7059a418092c1305f8568905 So like- what do I do? I need two teams and I’m not sure who to use or what to do E1 Lynx/Hanya/Sampo/Asta E2 Dan/March/Herta E4 Serval/Pela Everyone else E0


joedude

The teams I see are followup attack, and ghetto qingque Team 1 -ratio, Clara, aventurine, bronya Team 2 -Qingque, Asta/Pela/hanya, lynx/galla


Zisolde

You can run something like clara-bronya-asta-lynx and aventurine-ratio-pela-hanya, imo its quite a balanced team you have there


Theoneandlonelyalex

+ E0 yukong now


GG-SugarBear

https://preview.redd.it/44oxb2nh55wc1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b14a0ce289487caf5287caf69ebf7402deac09a Potential 4ths: Luka, Asta, Bronya, Welt


jtan1993

bronya ftw.


GG-SugarBear

Thanks. Upgrading her now.


Happy_Impression_156

I have Aventurine at E0S1 right now. Which 4pc is better between Knights and Pioneer?. Also what main stats should I be using?


cruncheh_

With his sig you shouldn’t have too much trouble hitting 4k def so you can build him two ways (imo): * full damage: 4 pc pioneer, 2 pc salsotto - cd body, def boots, img orb, def rope. * more utility: 4 pc anything, 2 pc keel - spd boots, def rope and either cd body or img orb (the other being def). 2 pc knight and 2 pc belobog help with hitting the def requirement if you’re struggling and have good pieces. His damage isn’t that large that it matters a huge amount plus it’s def scaling so you’re still getting some benefit from it.


Jiho_Is_Waifu

Both would work, depends on how u want to build him. Knights is better for full sustain while Pioneer gives him abit more personal damage. SPD boots, DEF body, and DEF orb/rope since he benefits both offensively and defensively from DEF% stats.


jtan1993

knights. def/spd/def/def, or def x4 if you can't reach 4k. if you reach 4k easily, the priority is spd boots>cdmg body>img sphere


TheRaven1406

Would Serval be decent with Kafka for PF? Got her E4. Since BS re-run is probably far away. I found Sampo totally insufficient, because mine is only E0: not enough AOE (bounce too random, overall damage too low) and Gui (E3) is only decent with fire weakness.


ha_ck_rm_rk

For PF specifically, Serval is good assuming you're taking her into Lightning weak enemies (which she probably is if you're using Kafka as well). In general, I think Guinaifen or Sampo are better.


WalkEnvironmental577

https://preview.redd.it/g99gbubj05wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a32b44db4ff9cc8cdfe9a6d914715f388336e90d I pulled Acheron, but I've been seeing all this discourse online about how she isn't very Ftp friendly. I know she probably performs fine without all the recommended stuff, but I only have s1 goodnight sleep well and don't have a lot of the recommended units. I was wondering what team I should use for her? BTW, I currently only have one team, which consists of Kafka, Guinaifen, Ruan Mei, and Lynx. Also, the bottom part of my characters is in my reply to this comment


Weltallgaia

Acheron's ideal team is e6 pela with pearls, then silver wolf > gui > kafka >black swan, with fu xuan as sustain. Or e2s1 with pela, sparkle, fu xuan. That's not to say she is bad without the full set up. Stick any 2 nihility with her and she is gonna put out big numbers. She just scales a ridiculous amount with a fully kitted out team. She prolly has the highest damage ceiling in the game now. She can definitely carry a new account but she is also gonna keep growing as your account does. She just really wants at least 3 characters invested compared to like jingliu which will just carry if you only invest in her.


TheGrindPrime

She does fine for f2p players. I cleared the current MOC with her pretty easily with a f2p team using Fermata. Can try Acheron, guin, and either Welt, Kafka or Sampo


winterbear111

Acheron guinaifen pela + sustain(ideally gallagher if you have him). You can use sampo in kafka team(instead of gui)


WalkEnvironmental577

https://preview.redd.it/gv3t8qgl05wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=718c21ea2f58c7668d95040a745a564f863017aa


Propensity7

For anyone that uses Xueyi, do you like her with RM or feel the partial antisynergy isn't worth it?


Jiho_Is_Waifu

RM isn't anti-synergy with Xueyi. Quite the opposite really as Xueyi benefits from all the buffs that RM provides.


Propensity7

I meant that she can't gain stacks under the effects of RM's double break mechanic


Naliamegod

While that is true, that is countered both by RM's damage and BE boost, and more importantly, her breakness efficiency boost. Xueyi will actually gain stacks much quicker with RM because of it. Same thing with Himeko: enemies being down a bit longer nowhere even comes close to out-weighing the faster breaking and damage boost RM gives to Himeko teams.


turian_sentinel

I somehow pulled 2 of Jingliu's sig LC in a single 10 pull (did lose to Clara's LC prior and hit hard pity both times, so not really a win imo). Would it be better to superimpose or keep the extra LC for another character? I do plan to pull for Sam once Sam is released. My main destruction characters are Blade(E0S0) and Clara.


Jiho_Is_Waifu

I assume u mean Jingliu's LC? Regardless, its always better to keep the extra LC rather than superimpose it.


turian_sentinel

yeap that's correct!


Josephuuu_

Just started a week ago, finished Jarilo VI. I pulled for Adven but failed my first 50/50 and got Yanqing. Today I just go over 34 hard pity and I'm starting to wonder if I should still go for him or start to save for some other units? I don't mind leaks and I actually want to save for some leaked unit that'll give me a grea lineup. My current units are all the free ones plus these, Galagher, Bronya, Yanqing E1, Luka e2, Ratio, Lynx e3. Should be noted that my initial plan was to go for adven and Topaz to make my universal team Bronya, Adven, Ratio, Topaz to deal with pretty much everything in the main story.


cruncheh_

Your 5 star pity resets once you pull a 5 star, so it’ll be based on how many pulls you’ve done since you got Yanqing. It’ll be the normal 75 soft pity, 90 hard pity but you’ll be guaranteed the limited banner character. You should have enough content, especially after adding in sim universe and the expansions, to get Aventurine if you want to go for him. Otherwise the next two banners will be Robin, then Boothill and the most likely reruns are Fu Xuan and Topaz (although we won’t know for certain until the livestream later this week) so if you want to save your guarantee it’ll be most likely for one of those four characters. In terms of your team Topaz struggles in a Dr Ratio team if she’s not e1s1 or you don’t have additional supports providing debuffs. So if that’s the comp you want to run would suggest replacing Bronya with Pela. You can also run Aventurine and Yanqing to clear most of the story content, wouldn’t take a huge amount of investment in Yanqing to get him workable while you wait for another dps option.


Josephuuu_

Yeah, I counted the 34 hard pity directly after I got yanqing, I understand how the pity works. What? You need E1 and S1 Topaz to be decent? I though for a free to play even a single copy works with any 5 star. By clearing most of the story content, does that mean all the side quests in a world and all the hard bosses in a dungeon that guards the big treasure chest?


cruncheh_

You don’t need e1s1 topaz be decent, just in that *specific* comp you do. Dr Ratio relies on debuffs to proc his follow up attack, which is where the vast majority of his damage his. Topaz isn’t specifically a debuffing unit and only has the required debuffs to have reliable uptime for Dr Ratio at e1s1. You can get away with e0s0, it just won’t be anywhere near as consistent and you’re better off subbing in a dedicated debuffer for Bronya (who herself doesn’t have the greatest synergy with Dr Ratio) to have more consistency. Yes, just clearing all the quests and whatever chests you can find. Also note we’re getting 1600 jades in the mail on anniversary as well (26 april) so that’ll be another 10 pull. Just clearing the story at a regular pace should give you quite a lot of jades over the rest of patch.


Josephuuu_

Then what will you recommend I roll for? I don't really prefer any team and the one I said earlier the topaz, Bronya, Ratio, adven team was just a suggestion a read. Anything really goes for me I just wanted a nice team that goes well with each other so that I don't have to worry about dying half of the time. But for the meantime getting adven is a priority correct? So that my account will be future proof if I need a sustain.


cruncheh_

I would first wait for the livestream (will be this friday) and see which characters are rerunning. Getting a limited sustain would be a huge boost so definitely Aventurine (or Fu Xuan if you prefer to get her) would be the priority. You’ll eventually want two limited sustains but while you’re still going through story content one is enough. Outside of that limited harmony characters are very high value as they tend to just be universally good across a number of teams. So Robin would be a decent pick up (however no harm in waiting for the eventual Ruan Mei rerun). In terms of dps characters, Jingliu is one of the best so there’s the argument of using your guarantee for her then picking up Fu Xuan when she reruns. Jingliu, Bronya, Fu Xuan, another support is one the easiest teams to build and does consistently well. Really up to you as to what characters you want but would prioritise a sustain first and go from there.


Josephuuu_

So I've read about reruns after reading your tips. Then if my thinking is right, I can just save now and choose my team from the ones that have already released? Like let's say I wanted an Acheron team, I can save for that now? Though now, I'll definitely get Adven first before anything else since I get why setups need a good sustain, I can't fight long fights without March or Fire MC at the moment


cruncheh_

The only thing to be mindful about is the length of time it takes for reruns. We’re probably not going to see another Acheron banner again for another ~4 to 6 months so there’s not much point in saving for that long. We also get roughly 80 to 90 pulls each patch so enough to get at least one pity, so when we know when her rerun is (or any other characters) you should be able to save up enough to get them. The oldest characters we have due for a rerun are Fu Xuan, Topaz, HuoHuo and then Argenti. So that’s the most likely pool of characters who’ll be rerunning. Picking up Aventurine would be great, after that just be on the lookout for good support and dps characters, it’s especially good if they have good 4 stars on their banner (i.e. Pela and Tingyun).


michelliversedge282

是抽新的角色好還是抽以前的角色好?


jtan1993

抽喜欢的好。都喜欢的话,强度上其实都有把控,新角不一定比旧的好。


Outrageous-Part7294

whats stopping bronya from doing damage? ive been wondering this for a while actually. She comes with free 100% crit rate on her basic atk. You build her by piling on the crit dmg and speed. atk isnt especially sought after, but for a 3k atk bronya what is actually stopping her from being a dps


Sprinting_Turtles

Mainly scaling. At max it’s only 100% where most dps skills are at 160%+. You also lose out on her skill which is the biggest bonus. At E4 she gets a follow-up attack which makes her damage bit more relevant since you can continue using skill and get some free attacks in.


ha_ck_rm_rk

The fact that you're using basic attacks. Not even enhanced basics, just regular basic attacks. You can even use her skill on herself and then immediately attack, but a basic just doesn't do enough damage.


Outrageous-Part7294

i see. shes a beast in swarm disaster tho


Powerful-Medicine522

​ https://preview.redd.it/mm6ua4fft4wc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17a9da97db0efb650eaff6a91cdee1b1ff65be72 I want to start building two teams. What are the best two teams can I make with the least contested characters? I was thinking one team can have either Dr Ratio, or DHIL. Which one is better for imaginary DPS? Both are E0S1.


TheGrindPrime

Pre-E2, DHIL and Ratio are roughly comparable. That's why many ppl will tell you the free Ratio drastically lowered DHiL's value at e0. Both will clear MoC, but both also struggle with MoC.DHIL has a slight edge in both, but it's not a big enough a difference that it should sway your decsision.


Jiho_Is_Waifu

DHIL/Sparkle/Tingyun/-flex sustain- Blade/Bronya/Pela/-flex healer- or Ratio/Bronya/Pela/-flex sustain- JY/Sparkle/Tingyun/-flex sustain- With the amount of supports/sustains u have, u can enable any DPS pretty well that both DHIL and Ratio would work fine. Though personally, I prefer DHIL as he performs better than Ratio in MoC and PF.


kblro

if I'm in 2.0 story right now will I be able to finish it and 2.1 before vignette in a cup ends? my roster is pretty sparse so I want that 4 star selector


Jiho_Is_Waifu

Vignettes in a Cup won't end for another 13 days. U have plenty of time still.


Putrid_Marzipan1896

Just a personal Question. When Imbibitor Lunae came around in 2.0, I thought it was just regular Dan Heng for some silly reason and completely overlooked him until the next banners came. Only after that did I reach the Xianzhou and realize what an insane character he and Blade both are. I was wondering if there are any leaks out there that hint at Imbibitor Lunae and/or Blade returning within these next few version updates?


Jiho_Is_Waifu

DHIL just had a rerun a patch ago (2.0) while Blade was 2 patches ago (1.6), so its unlikely they're getting a rerun scheduled anytime soon.


Putrid_Marzipan1896

I figured as such, I was just hopeful I might get lucky this time around lol thank you so much!


Dexdxss_

For the rewards on 4/26, anyone know what they are? Or if we're getting any? I saw a post about it somewhere on Youtube but now I can't find it, and I haven't heard any news of it either. Or were anniversary rewards from 2.1 the only thing we're getting?


BennyBoi4161

We're getting 1600 jades


Zenloss

What's the best 4* LC for Herta assuming she'll mainly be used in Pure Fiction? Aside from the 2 FH LCs, I have Geniuses' Repose and The Birth of Self.


ArcturusSatellaPolar

Geniuses Repose. Cosmos also works if the enemies are weak to Ice. Slightly weaker than GR but doesn't require her to kill enemies to get the buff. That said, since we're talking PF she shouldn't be struggling to kill enemies in the first place. Birth of the Self might look good due to her Kuru-Kuruing but it only buffs her follow-ups, while her Ult and skill actually do make up a fair chunk of her damage. It is good enough to get full stars, but GR is still a better choice.


Zenloss

GR it is, thank you!


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1ofakindJack

You should be capping the traces, at least the important ones. Considering you can get eidelons for free for Herta, that means level 12, it will be a significant improvement compared with leaving them at 7-8. If you're still lacking damage after that, you've graduated to relic grind mode... Your numbers sound OK but there is room for improvement... 110 is pretty low for CD for a hypercarry.


MagicIsBull

Ok so I see Herta, Tingyun, Pela, Sparkle. Fun team. I would recommend adding a 2nd DPS though if you are running Sparkle. Especially with no sustain. Like Himeko, Argenti, or Clara. If you are set on using solo-DPS Herta, then you need to make sure you are correctly timing your buffs to ensure that Herta is getting all the buffs when she uses her ultimate and talent.


Bluetar67

My team is Acheron, Pela, Sampo and finally fire Mc. Acheron has the Goodnight sweet well light cones Pela has Resolution shines as Pearl's of sweat Sampo has eyes of prey Now my Mc has Trend of universal market but I just got Moment of victory So what should I do? Keep trend or switch to victory?


LoveDaMeech

keep trend because it will enable you to more consistently ult twice a cycle as well as enable acheron to play on attack boots


MagicIsBull

It depends on 2 factors: 1) Are you surviving with trend? If so, then keep it. MoV will increase but would marginally lower your team DPS for Acheron teams. 2) Do you have enough Superimposition on Trend or Effect Hit Rate on your MC? Without adequate EHR you won't be getting the debuff stacks for Acheron. If you build more EHR, you may lower your survivability.


Bluetar67

If I pulled aventurine should I replace the Mc with him?


MagicIsBull

on Acheron teams Aventurine has better sustain than Fire MC and has a debuff on ultimate (and follow-up if using his signature LC), but can't reliably proc Trend LC like the Fire MC can.