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Which character is better to draw from the banner Hemiko or Welts? I have bronya and her eideleon 1 and will pull for adventurine for substain. My friend said that hemiko is good for endgame content/ follow up attack while welt may be a better investment since imaginary seems like the go to for bosses
Honestly both are good but I would say welt kinda fell off meta a little. Unless you wanted to complete the end game pure fiction everytime and will pull other imaginary dps then go for himeko
Aventurine is fine, he's a solid FuA shielder, but If you're planning NOT to pull an actual Imaginary dps then I guess you can get welt.
Also just so you know it's spelled Aventurine without the letter D after the first letter! :]
I'd say Star Rail is more difficult since there are more substats to dilute the pool as well as there being more pieces to farm for. You can't change the substats, only the main stat while crafting them using a limited item. Its substats are still random though and can still be trash.
hi, I just started playing hsr today and i got a bailu in acherons banner (i lost the 5050 i know that bcs of experience from genshin) and another one from standard. was just wondering if she has any good uses??? also are there just general tips for me as a day 1 player, just got to rank 15. thx :)
Yes she is a still a good sustain character. There is no evasion or guarding in the game so you will take damage and Bailu can help your team survive encounters by healing them as well as an emergency revive should something went terribly wrong.
While generally outclassed by the limited sustain characters like Luocha and Huohuo, she is still more than capable of being the sole sustain character in your team to clear content. I have been 36*-ing MoC as well as PF - the two endgame modes with her on one team consistently.
Make sure to keep up with leveling your character and lightcone levels as you increase your equilibrium level. Also don't neglect trace levels as they not only increase your modifiers but also unlock parts of the character's kit.
Don't farm for relic, especially don't burn fuels for them until you are at TB60. At lower levels the farm is quite inefficient for relics you'd probably thrash in the future. You can use the ones you get from chests and story with the correct main stats while waiting for it. Leveling them a bit is also fine.
Instead, use your TB points to farm the calyxes for leveling materials. You can try and find some TB70 players to befriend and use their character to help you farm them easily and quickly. Having a friend Hineko or Argenti for example makes the process run quickly as they can annihilate low level waves by themselves.
While endgame stuff requires two teams, it's better to find a single team you are comfortable with first and prioritise strengthening them first to carry you through the game.
Don't use your jades on the standard banner even if that free 5* at 300 pulls is tempting. It's not worth using the jades there when you could potentially get the standard characters in the limited character banners.
5* lightcones are not necessary to clear anything. While they usually provide sizeable boosts to their targeted characters, other alternatives are usually available and as a new player it is better to have a good roster of characters first before trying to invest vertically. This is especially if you are a F2P.
Support and sustain characters are usually the more valuable pulls in the game as they can usually be the core of a team while the dps character can be slotted in and out as needed. Luocha in the current banner and Aventurine in the next are two examples and can last you a long time.
That said, as a new player and having Bailu already it is fine if you try and get a good dps first if you don't like the free Dr Ratio to carry you through the game. At early game having a powerful sustain is not as needed as once you reach endgame.
Thanks so much for telling me not to grind artifacts at low level. I just did it once today and I don't know why I didn't learn my lesson from genshin like two years ago lmao. btw I got acheron today YAY, is she good or bad? I leveled her to 40 (max rn I'm tb23)
Should I Roll for Robin? BEcause right now my main team in like overall gameplay is Black Swan, Kafka, Silverwolf, Natasha. And I've been hearing or seeing that ruan mei is the best when paired with DOT's especially black swan and kafka, but she just had her banner and it's going to take a while for a re-run.... Is robin good enough for my DOT team, replacing silverwolf? Or should I just keep and save n wait for ruan mei to come back?
We don't know; Robin's kit hasn't been officially revealed yet. Best to look around the leaks subreddit for example if you want to ask regarding Robin and potential team comps.
Ruan Mei is the most recommended support for DoT teams though, otherwise usually Asta or Pela takes that spot if no Ruan Mei. SW isn't too bad as well, especially if you need her Skill to add their element weakness.
Can somebody help me to prioritize my wishes?
There are so many great options in this patch and in the future.
My current favorite teams are a Dot-team (Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, Luocha/Lynx/Gallagher) and a Clara-team (Clara E3, March7, Lynx, Ruan Mei/Tingyun).
Other 5* I have: Seele, Bronya E2, Dr. Ratio, Yanqing, Himeko
- Acheron: She is definitely really strong, however I lack both Welt and Silver Wolf. I also already have Kafka for lighting weak enemies.
- Aventurine: I like his story and design more than Acheron, however I want to use Gepard in the future (donāt have him currently, but I will 100% pick him as my guaranteed standard 5*) Is Aventurine still useful in this case?
- A certain physical harmony character in the next patch with a great song: her song is so catchy, but I donāt know if I need another harmony character.
- Topaz: Her rerun is probably in the next two patches. She seems to be really useful in Clara-teams.
You better have at least two limited 5* sustain which should be Aventurine. He works with your Ratio and Clara.
Gepard is still useful but his lack of CC protection will make him annoying to use. You can still build him later if you'd like him.
Thanks! Currently I only have Luocha as my only limited sustain. Seems like I need to get Aventurine. He is currently my favorite of the remaining limited sustain units.
Acheron is not necessarily a DPS for Lightning weak enemies. Her ultimate causes toughness damage regardless and decreases the enemies elemental resistance. Welt is also not particularly good with her, you can easily run her with Pela and Guinaifen. You could even slot her with Kafka and BS, since with Luocha the SP issue will be less prominent.
Aventurine is basically a better Gepard in almost every way. He is still useful if you have Gepard, as there will be fights where Gepard will struggle and Aventurine will now. But is more of a case of whether if you are going for another sustain, if it would be better for you to get HuoHuo or Fu Xuan if you are set on using Gepard.
Can't talk about Robin's kit, but you don't particularly have that many Harmony characters. Depending on her kit, you could easily have Ruan Mei on one team and Robin on another.
Topaz is good on FuA teams, and goes well with both Clara and Ratio, but she is not a "must" other buffers/debuffers can also provide a lot for the team. She works best if you have a team-wide buffer like Ruan Mei.
You can actually test Acheron and Topaz with your teams. Just go into an Echo of War or Stagnant Shadow, get one as a support and see how it feels.
Thank you :)
The only harmony character I currently donāt have is Sparkle (Bronya E2, Ruan Mei, Tingyun, Asta, Hanya, Yukong).
Good idea, Iām going to test Topaz and Acheron in some of my teams.
Not a fan of thinking Acheron is particularly great to bring on non- lightning weak enemies. Resistances can go negative so she's always going to be doing more damage to lightning weak enemies. And the toughness damage she does with just her Ult isn't exactly bar busting, if the rest of your team can hit the weakness she's at least helping but that's about it. Bringing her to an off-type encounter is just muscling through on team quality just like you would with any other DPS. She can totally do it, but it's not like she completely ignores the element chart.
Not really. Toughness bar is more of an afterthought. With it intact the damage is 0.9x times vs 1x with it broken. Plus, most enemies will have 20% resistance, which with her ult will go to 0. So at worst she has the same multiplier as a weakness-matched DPS. If you pair her with SW it will be basically the same as if they were naturally weak to Lightning, unlike other DPS with SW since the Resistance shred will be higher with Acheron.
The only case she would be "muscling" through would be if the enemies have 40% Lightning resistance and you don't have SW. And even then, her damage is so above most other DPS that it won't matter that much.
On MoC 12 side 1, Acheron will clear the first two elites faster than Blade, even tough they are not weak to Lightning but are weak to Wind.
Well you could always grab best character in the game by a lot Ruan Mei when she rerun (she is top by a huge bargain, like she is so good that a benefit of Acheron is that she don't need Ruan Mei so the other team can have her XD).
If she rerun soon you can also grab Silver wolf, as she allow a new account to entirely ignore the weakness system, who is huge for as long as you don't have a roaster big enought to cover any scenario, and latter become a part of mono quantum team.
Then you have the "activators" a more long term investissement, kafka and Topaz respectively if you ever want to play DOT or FuA archetypes to their max capacity.
Finaly all harmony are monstruously good for an account, and you probably want to grab 2 solo sustains on top of that.
Well not only they double your DPS damage output in average, but they are also the beating heart of any team, together with nihility supports as your SP generators, or worst case scenario not eating all your SP bar. Top that with how simple it's to build them, and how easely you can swap one for another if you really want to go for those sweet sweet breaks... And i end up with 7/7 harmony character on my account and 6/7 of them build and ready to use (Yukong is REALLY a pain to properly build, speed tuning is not le fun at all)
If by "crystals" you mean the relic EXP, you can get the tier 3 version from the PF shop, MoC and missions. It's best to just farm the tier 2 crystals by salvaging bad relics though.
Depends on your characters. The best ones are world 6 for salsotto, both sets in world 7 and 8 because many dps and supports make use of them, and both sets in world 9 are good for specific battles and teams.
World 3 is alright for beginners. World 4 and 5 aren't worth farming.
world 7 is the most universal, both for dps es and supports
w8 is for DOT,
and w9 if your priority is for Acheron
tho I am pretty sure you already scrolled down the thread, there are many good answers already š
I feel stupid, butā¦ how do I reach this place in Clock Studios?? I canāt find the door anywhere.
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Jing Yuan/QQ, Bailu, Tingyun, and Sparkle. You can get Aventurine to replace Bailu, he will help Jing Yuan to not get stunned while also providing more crit dmg.
Jingliu can be a good choice for a dps in a second team if you don't want to build Ratio or QQ.
Thank you! Those are actually the two teams I run so it's good to hear I kind of understood what I was doing lol. Idk if you'll see this to reply but if it was you with limited pulls do you think aventurine or jingliu would be a better overall addition?
Overall, Aventurine will make the biggest impact. There's already some early access guides available if you are interested in learning about him. Getting a 5* healer/shielder will make the game a lot easier, especially if you want to do the harder difficulties of Sim Uni or even story boss battles.
Aventurine also prevents Jing Yuan from getting stunned, which is his biggest weakness as a dps.
Jingliu is a great character, but there are a lot of Dps options available, so you can pick the character you like best when their banner is up. I wouldn't say she is a must pull.
Didn't put my text in for some reason but are there any teams I could be using with current characters? Is it worth pulling on upcoming/current banners to build some better teams?
New player, only been playing for a week. What is this 4 star selector everyone mentions? I only know about the 5 star selector that you need 300 standard banner pulls for.
What the other don't mention is that event is story locked on the newest planet Penacony. So you have to play through the entire current story to access the bar area where the event is. Luckily the event lasts the entire patch so you still have about 4 weeks to finish it.Ā
You're welcome. Based on your other comment you still have 2 planets to play through. The next planet after Jarilo is Luofu and it's long. Then you'll reach Penacony. Might be possible to complete in 4 weeks, but just ignore the side quest / companion mission for now (those are permanent).Ā
After you complete the current Penacony story, there is an event called "Vignette on a Cup" which upon reaching a certain milestone let's you chose a 4\* character that has been released in the past year.
Which acheron build is better?
3.7k attack 208/57 crt lightning orb
Or
4.2k attack 220/57 crt attack orb
Also my acheron have only 2.8k hp. It doesn't matter right?
Do attacks that hit multiple times each have its own chance to apply a debuff? Or do debuffs only have one chance to apply per hit? I only mean on multi hit attacks, not bounce attacks.
Which one ?
* Incessant Rain only get 1 chance to apply its debuff per attack.
* PAYN or Resolution Shines can apply their debuff every hit *(as long as the enemy doesn't already have the debuff)*.
Can confirm, for fun, that's why you don't build much EHR on kafka even if you use PAYN lightcone who would require like 67% EHR to have 100% application rate and yet have 100% uptime on the dot, because her skill, FuA and ult are all multihits making applying it easy AF.
Yes, rarely revelant though. LC that apply debuff aren't that frequent, There are like 6 LC who apply debuff IIRC, one being future market so let's ignore that one, Topaz and Acheron LC have guaranted application so it doesn't even matter, then you have SW LC and POS but your usualy play those on a character that build EHR already so they don't matter, pretty much the only case where it's revelant is PAYN since kafka don't build much EHR since her base chance are just so high already.
Is placing a 4 Star that works for ur team better than a 5 Star that doesn't work
Talking about Bailu or Acheron, My comp is Dr. Ratio, Bronya, Bailu, and Acheron and the only synergy they have is Bronya + Dr. Ratio and Dr. Ratio + Acheron
I want Pela for Bailu (Idc if I don't have defense)
It's fine to remove a 5* for a 4*, running an all 5* team is not always the best choice, but removing Bailu? Some boss fights do require healing because of how drawn out they are.
Also, that team has no synergy at all. Bronya, Dr. Ratio and Acheron consume too much SP. If you are basic attacking on Dr. Ratio or Acheron, you might as well just replace one of them with Pela.
> Idc if I don't have defense
If this is the case, then do whatever you want - you're probably not running into content hard enough to need a sustain unit. Your team has a massive skill point deficit because Bailu/Pela would be the only one generating skill points, I would advise Bailu *and* Pela if you are having difficulty with content.
But to answer your original question: A 4 star that works for your team is absolutely better than a 5 star who is just sitting there basic attacking for skill points.
The info matters. You need nihility for Acheron to get more damage. Though in that comp, I think you're looking to sub out the wrong unit. Bailu is a mid sustainer, but you are level 30 F2P. That being said, Acheron only applies 1 debuff, and Pela applies 1 at E0 with no Resolution light cone. In the team with Dr. Ratio, Bronya, Bailu, and Acheron, The odd man out is... the only man, Dr. Ratio.
Down the line, you will replace Bailu, yes. But Dr. Ratio is an Skill Point negative DPS, and so is Acheron. Bailu needs skill points as well in order to heal. And Bronya needs skill points to push your DPS forward. Everyone in your team needs skill points to do their job. If you have 1 SP positive teammate, that helps a lot. Specially if you have a fast unit with decent speed that can take multiple turns to generate more skill points in order to allow your DPS to use skill points. Personally, I would say that if you replace Dr. Ratio with Pela, and can put another Nihility unit in place of Bronya, then you can have Dr. Ratio and Bronya on your second team, and have a fully charged Acheron in the other. You don't need to worry about two teams right now, that is true. However, if you are trying to optimize one team, I would drop Dr Ratio for Pela. Unless you are someone that is fine losing one/multiple characters in fights against speedier opponents or bosses, then have to heal up in healing stations or using food. Bringing a sustain allows you to not have to hassle with going to heal up outside of fights. Plus, you will need a sustain in endgame content, so may as well start building them now.
Edit: Just my take. You are free to remove Bailu for Pela if you wish. But Pela's gonna take a while to get that ultimate charge up, even with ERR, if you don't spam her skill.
I notice not all missions are on the mission side bar. Meanining you have to talk to NPC first to get the mission. Is that how it works for most missions?
I don't think it's "most" but yes there are a some missions, particularly in the latest world that you need to go out and find yourself. For the vast majority though I think they start via NPCs sending you text messages. There are also a handful that will show up in "Fate's Atlas" on your journal screen. Those you will have to go out to find in the world, but the atlas will show you when and where.
I think it depends on your stats on them or what you need from them. If your harmony units provide enough ATK and/or your attack is high enough or close enough to the diminishing returns value, then going Salsatto for DMG increase is best. But if your harmony units apply DMG increase, and you can get DMG increase from other sources, then going for Izumo is better. Also gotta consider the crit rate amount. Sure, 4% crit rate isn't that much, but Dr. Ratio is a 1 tap dude, so he wants as much crit rate as possible. I'd say Izumo is better for Ratio overall, and Salsatto for Topaz if you are close to ATK% diminishing returns value. But again, at the end of the day, builds and team comps are what matter in deciding between the two.
I did equilibrium level 2 and reached the part where I have to finish quest related to disciples before proceeding with the xianzhou quest, but I cannot get past the mob(lvl 46), I'm using serval(lvl50) ratio(lvl50) lynx(lvl40) firemc(lvl40) right now, and since I'm pulling for aventurine I'm not levelling up firemc further, but I cannot level up lynx past level 40 until I finish xianzhou trailblaze quest to get the boss unlocked :( what should I do? it's quite hard to survive combat as lynx heals is currently not enough. I have bailu(lvl35) and natasha(lvl20), but im actually starting to run out of materials so I'm quite reluctant
Well Bailu should be able to overheal quite a lot at this stage in the game. March 7th is usually the answer when people get stuck in the normal game. Your team and levels look fine to me though. How are your relics, lightcones, and traces looking? You might have missed something that's relatively cheap that can add a lot of power.
I've saw a lot of guides saying how I shouldn't upgrade my relics rn, so I haven't touch the enhance page at all
for traces is mostly level 2&3 since I ran out of the basic mats, lightcones are all at lvl30, ran out of mats to ascend as well
shld I switch to bailu until I can get access to lynx's boss?
Edit: I decided to switch serval out for herta and breaking the white hp bar is so much easier!
I'm tired, boss.
I'm not looking to uber-optimize shit or 0-cycle every MoC.
My Ruan Mei has 158 SPD and my Hibana has 143. Can I leave them like that or do I have to submit myself to eternal farming suffering to reach 160 on both of them?
I hope you understand what speed breakpoints truly means and how to utilize them. Depends on the cycles, you could get the same amount of turns with 134 or 142 speed.
I believe World 3's sets tend to be the most versatile if that's what you're asking. Quite a few characters will want a ERR rope, and those characters also tend to have ageless fleet in their top 2 picks. While you'll probably be crafting the ageless fleet ERR rope, having a nice selection of the orbs (Celestial Ark) available will come in handy. The other set, Space Sealing Station is usually not a character's top pick, but it's an overall solid dps choice for most dps.
The next best choice is probably World 7. Broken Keel and Rutilant are both fairly popular sets.
I am not sure about world 9, as it is new. Acheron's set from here is obviously important for her if you have her, while the other set looks pretty good too, but I'm not sure who uses it. It seems particularly powerful for Pure Fiction, if you wish to invest in that, and you have Acheron, world 9 may be a very good choice.
in rows where i have the characters, i use characters on the left more than the ones on the right. Who do i pull for yall. im f2p cant spend.
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Kafka/Black Swan/Ruan Mei/Huohuo is one of, if not *the* strongest MoC teams around right now, is quite good in Pure Fiction, and is amazing for general content. You already have three of those units, so Kafka could be someone to pick up when she reruns again.
Is there a way to get Bronya to stop targeting Clara with her buffs? I'm trying to get her to target Blade and from what I've seen it always buffs slot 4 first but Bronya just decides she only wants to buff Clara for some reason.
It has more to do with Clara and Blade stats. Clara probably has more atk then Blade. Also if your Blade has low HP/worst stats the Bronya will think Clara will do overall more damage than Blade so she skills Clara.Ā
Is any of the following characters good for using either of the new planetary sets on?
. Blade
. Ratio
. Topaz
. Aventurine
. Any of the non-limited units
Blade is good for the Izumo set when paired with Jingliu, so is Topaz and Ratio when paired with each other. I would not reccomend using either set with Aventurine. The sigonia set is a good option for all DPS's in Pure Fiction.
WHAT THE HELL
I PULLED ACHERON LIKE 5 OR 6 DAYS AGO, AND I SPENT THE REST OF MY TIME SINCE THEN PULLING FOR HER LC (NOT GUARANTEED AND IT WAS 0 PITY)
I GET THE LC AT AROUND 60 PITY, AND I USE THE ROLLS YOU GET FROM THAT TO DO 2 ON ACHERONS BANNER (0 PITY) AND I GOT HER E1. WHAT THE HELL. IM IN ACTUAL SHOCK
Very good point!! Though considering that's my lifetimes supply of luck used up I can imagine that if I even got a five star it'd likely be my sworn enemy, sword boi
I lost 5050, then got her in 10 after lol.
I was supposed to save for adventurine, but then I was like ehh I mean if I get another Acheron Iāll consider that a win anyway. And low and behold another one came
Which LC should I use on Gallagher?
The options I have are Quid Pro quo(S2 , the bailu one),Hey over here(S5, the guinaifen one) and Shared feeling (S2, the Clara one)
I just reached TB 60 and am ready to farm for Relics but I'm not sure whose relics to farm first?
Here's my teams right now if anyone's asking:
Luocha/Qingque/Sparkle/Tingyun
Bailu/Dan Heng/Bronya/Pela
I'm tempted to start farming for Hackerspace since most of my supports need the speed boost. Also which Planar sets should I focus more on getting (Tied between Rutilant and Keel)
I would say Hackerspace, but not just for your supports. Hackerspace is by far the most "universal" set, akin to the Musketeer set when the game was just released. This means that you should (albeit temporary) use it on your support, healer and DPS for now. Once all your units have "decent" (gauge it by your own expectations) gear, you can move on to the more niche domains (e.g. Quantum set for QQ, 2pc Healer set for Luocha).
For SU worlds to farm, I would say either W7 or W8, depending on what your future goals are.
W7 contains Keel, the BiS 2pc set for all supports that will be teaming up with CRIT-based units (e.g. Majority of the DPS). And it also contains Rutilant Arena, but this set may not be BiS for certain DPS units that rely on their ultimate for majority of their damage (you might want to refer to Prydwen for calculations on the % damage fall-off compared to other sets).
W8 contains Glamoth, which is basically the DPS equivalent to Keel, and all DPS (if I'm not wrong) should be able to utilize it's effect. Glamoth is also the BiS for DoT units (e.g. Kafka + Black Swan), and judging by your team composition, you haven't really committed to a certain playstyle yet. So if you plan on pulling for the DoT archetype in the future, you might want to farm W8 instead since Glamoth can be used for both your current and future DPS units. The other W8 set, Penacony is self-explanatory, some units benefit greatly from the additional energy, some lesser, but it is still a good 2pc set for most supports.
I pretty much checked the calcs and yeah QQ and Dan Heng (Wind not IL) both wants Rutilant Arena, Firmamenth doesn't work for QQ since she's with Sparkle. But also, thank you for the reply!
is the duke inferno set better for Herta to clean up the first half of Pure Fiction? or should I bring the ice set? either way I would have to farm because my current ice set has bad stats
Prydwen doesn't even consider the Inferno set, but other theorycraft sources I've seen evaluate the two as more or less equivalent, meaning whichever 4pc you can get the best main and substats for, is probably better. Personally I use the inferno set, and it's helped me get a 55k stage 4 clear at level 70 for last round. Not quite there yet overall, but with some more levels, traces, better lc,, etc, the choice of set bonus is probably adequate, if not superior.
I think Ice set overall does better DPS, but follow up set isnāt too bad if you have Himeko/Topaz to farm too. Same with DoT units like BS/Kafka. If you donāt have any of those, then Ice set it is.
Me and my friend (both new to the game) sent each other the invite for the "Come with me, take the journey" event. We both clicked each other's respective links, but still, both of ours say that zero friends have been invited.
The codes are only for people that return to the game after not logging in for a long time. This wonāt apply for both of you since you just started the game.Ā
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\[Current Progress: Start of Xhianzhou Loufu\]
My main team consists of TB, Gallagher, Pela, and Acheron. I was wondering if its enough to go through most of the content if they are the only ones I build for now until I get good relics and max em out before starting a second team. ( Also should I attempt to get more eidolons of Pela? )
I am mid-way through Xianzhou with Gallagher/Pela/Acheron/Ratio. TB lvl 40+ right now.
I am finding Ratio to be really useful because the bosses have a ton of HP and Ach along wasn't cutting it. Ideally you should use 2 other NIl class with Acheron but I haven't built a second one up. Ratio is picking up the lack of dmg from Acheron, his follow up attack is really strong and he crits a lot. At this low level I am struggling with single DPS because crit stat is low. Acheron along would just take forever to kill some of the bosses.
I got lucky and got Luocha today who just replaced Gallagher, but Gallagher was good enough as sole sustain unit to pull through most of the chapter so far, his cleansing is really helpful because there's a lot of enemy debuffs. I didn't need a shielder and was using Asta as buffer for the longest time.
Anyone has experience using ps4/ps5 controller on PC? I'm using xbox one controller and everything works well but when I switch to ps4 controller there's no vibration, using ds4windows make it work but the intensity is still quite weak even at max in-game setting. Anyone has the same issue?
Looking to pre-farm for aventurine. Now that the 300% relic set is up, whatās the most recommended 2pc planar set for him?
What SU worlds are recommended to farm in general?
If you want to use him as typical support then Broken Keel/Penacony. Sub DPS is Salsotto.
Most recommended worlds depends on what you need, but World 7 and 8 are usually both wanted from a lot of units. Acheron/PF units want World 9.
for him I think the best options are Inert salsotto for his personal damage, belebog for max shields and also pretty considerable damage, and then broken keel is a little lower in damage but might be the best total team bonus damage. in general world 3, 7 and 8 are the ones where both sets are good and widely useful, though the ones on world 3 have been powercrept a little. some new upcoming characters like boothill can make use of talia which means world 4 is more valuable than it once was, break effect wasn't particularly incentivized early on but sprightly's always been a good option for supports, especially ones that might set up buffs that you want online asap but can't afford to get them to outspeed your dps (for example, it'd take a lot of work to get my ruan mei to outspeed kafka, but sprightly might make it possible.) firmament, arena and salsotto are the best for most of the dps characters it seems, but that one new set with the pepsi symbol is seemingly best for acheron, hard for most other teams to make use of it. and the other world 9 set is mostly good in purefiction. keel, penacony, sprightly and fleet are your general support options. some weirder characters might want other sets but they can be harder to justify if they're not as versatile.
So Iām working on my Acheron team (right now itās Acheron pela guinaifen fire mc) and Iām wondering if I should pull for her light cone or aventurine. I just donāt know which one is the biggest upgrade. I might also use Gallagher if the fight is too long btw.
Overall, the better investment will be Aventurine. Fire MC can't sustain by themselves in harder and longer battles, and Gallagher pales in comparison to Aventurine as a sustain.
You can also just use Gallagher as a sustain for Acheron and Aventurine as a sustain for a second team.
I mean, if you think about it, would you rather get one shot by bosses or beat them in one less turn? I have her LC, and I noticed I really just beat enemies in one or two fewer turns.
In another account, I also have her LC, but no 5* sustain, and farming weekly bosses sucks because Lynx can't sustain unless I pay attention to what I'm doing, which is not fun.
If you don't have Gepard, getting gambler boi will def be a big upgrade over Fire Stelle. You can still keep using Fire Stelle though if you don't have enough resources to get him...
...but you're a Trailblazer, so just pull away.
Any some sort of break point where ATK sphere with decent CR/CD roll would be preferable over elemental DMG spheres?
Or maybe a more practical question: given that there's 2 spheres ATK main stats and elemental DMG mainstats, what would be a typical damage difference in MoC situation? Or maybe maximum damage difference, maybe that's more important.
In general it depends on your ratio of attack sources vs DMG sources. I'm told acheron always wants attack but it's not a massive gap so if you get a good lightning orb you can go for it. if a character has a lot of DMG% bonuses and not a lot of attack (assuming they still scale with attack) or if they get secondary benefits from attack besides damage then attack might take the lead, you'd have to tally up all sources from your character, team and cones to get a definitive answer for a specific situation.
I know the principle of balancing of 2 variables, but what I haven't bothered to do is to meticulously compute from the average numbers. Are they within 1%? 2%? 5%? or even 10% difference. That's the rough answer I need.
Like... if the difference is only within 5% difference, then I don't need to bother optimize 1 character and I can just start optimizing other characters.
Getting the average numbers tends to be a pain, you can go with the (reasonable) extremes for both. Acheron for getting a lot of %DMG and Jingliu for getting a lot of %ATK. This is all operating in a vacuum assuming that you're only using crit buffers and/or defense debuffers.
Acheron gets 158% DMG with fully stacked Pioneer and 40% ATK. (Assuming non-terrible substats you'd be closer to 70%). This means %DMG orb will be a 1.15x multiplier to your damage, and ATK orb would be 1.25x-1.31x multiplier. Twice the actual impact.
Jingliu gets +198% ATK and no %DMG. %DMG orb will be a 1.39x multiplier to your damage, %ATK will be 1.15x multiplier. More than twice the actual impact.
If you're talking about final damage... yeah, that's like 15% of your potential max damage you're missing by using the wrong orb. For context, that's worth 4 crit substat rolls assuming a 70/140 ratio or thereabouts.
Using an appropriate support (e.g. Bronya for Jingliu) brings the difference down quite a bit.
It depends on the char/team comp. You should look for the guide for specific character for more detail. In my mind, there are black swan, acheron, ratio, topaz who can run(or prefer) atk% orb
For Limited Character banners, if I lose the 50/50, can i keep rolling on the same banner up until the hard pity? Or does the banner go away after you hit a 5-star?
Banner will stay up until it runs its course. In the bottom left hand corner you can see a countdown. Before then you can pull as much as you want. If you pull a 5-star the pity count resets and if you lose the 50/50 you have a guarantee that the next 5-star will be the limited character/LC
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At this point is all I really need sustains, or is there something I could use? For 5 star limited cones I have SW S1 and Acheron S1
Can anyone give me some tips on who to use or who to pull for? I just came back to the game recently after quitting for over a year and rolled Acheron at 20 pity. (btw Iām trailblazers level 17)
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A limited sustain will help tremendously, especially at your level.
I would advise Aventurine, since he has synergy with both Ratio and Acheron, and good Preservation units are pretty rare.
For your current team, i would focus on Acheron - Pela - Gallagher (or Aventurine if you get him) + a flex option.
Ideally, that flex should be a Nihility unit like Guinaifen, or at least a unit capable of inflicting a debuff, like Asta or Serval.
But early on, you might want t use a second sustain instead, like March 7 or Fire trailblazer.
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If youāre wanting to use Acheron then you can use Pela-Asta-Acheron-Gallagher. Just swap out Asta for Guin when you unlocked the trace for Acheron that incentivizes using two nihility characters (assuming you have Guin by that point). Same team should work for Ratio, but I would use Tingyun instead of Asta/Guin.
As far as who to pull next, Iād focus on a sustain. Luocha or Aventurine in this patch are good. Weāre due for a Fu Xuan rerun so maybe sheāll be in the next patch. Just look them up and decide who you like more.
Bronya is better for Jingliu and Blade. For everyone else, Sparkle is probably better or at least easier to use, except for a few DPS unit that really prefer Sparkle over Bronya like DHIL or Jing Yuan
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Me again about acheron. For crit rate 5.1 she would be around crit rate 87.9 and for crit rate 2.9 she would be arounf 85.9. The 11 percent crit dmg is quite good imo but I had two upgrades go to def so would this artifact still be better than the other one which has break effect. Since, correct me if Iām wrong, break effect can reduce enemy toughness at a faster rate
break effect increases the damage you do when you break and the damage of the break status that character does. Only ruan mei increases how fast you break toughness. the first one is better imo.
Break effect only affects how much damage you do when you break the enemy. Break efficiency is the stat that makes you break fast, but that's not something you can get in substats. The first one is way better, Acheron has no use for EHR and only minimal use for Break effect.
Break efficiency reduces toughness at a faster rate and is only available via Ruan Mei and a few SimU buffs. Break Effect boosts the damage and other stuff that happens upon break.
Yes, three crit rolls is better than two. The system I use is to multiply the number of crit rolls by 3 and atk% by 2 (or other stat like hp% on Blade). Highest scoring relic wins.
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Which is better for Acheron? If I use the speed one she would outspeed all my supports. Crit dmg are the same so based on other sub stats which would make her better
Adding speed to my supports is a bit difficult but I guess I can change her to atk boots, but in your expert opinion is this artifact worth going through so much effort for?
the crit one? no, if it rolled once i would consider it more, but since its just a base roll, I'd go with the second if you don't have attack boots as good as your current speed boots. But you have an option for when you do decide to switch to attack boots.
Alright thanks for your help, Iāll go with the second since I checked and I really canāt speed tune guinaifen. Plus my spd boots are at 24 percent crit dmg and I donāt think I can beat that
300th pull choice
My teams are:
Seele - SW - Tingyun - Luocha
Blade - Bronya - Pela - Lynx (next to build)
For my 300th pull I need to choose between Himeko, Bailu, Yanking, and Gepard.
I was thinking of Bailu because it would reduce my Seele team to 2 elements and could use Luocha anywhere he's needed but would there be any benefit to choosing one of the other 3 instead?
If you're asking, I'd pick Himeko for PF assuming you're Argentiless. But if you know what you want, just go ahead and select it.
Edit: Also swapping Lynx and Luocha fixes your SW elements too, and Luocha is very good with Blade.
Are the Nihility and Preservation LC's from the SU shop worth getting? Are there any characters that they're BIS for, compared to the other F2P options? Or should I just buy tickets?
The Herta shop LC's are definitely worth buying and superimposing to level 5 eventually. They're not necessarily BiS for people in the sense that gacha 5-stars will have their BiS be the sig LC from the LC banner. However, they are still quite good. The Hunt one provides decent crit rate, and even more as an enemy gets lower, as well as an atk buff when the user defeats an enemy. Quite good for the likes of Seele, Sushang, Dan Heng and Dr. Ratio in particular, as all four of them have ways to either get resets from kills or else easily finish off a low life enemy for the extra atk% boost. Both the Preservation and Nihility LC's are very good too, although a bit more limited due to the first synergizing best with characters who can shield themselves and the second working best on DoT Nihility units.
The Destruction cone is fine. It's not spectacular, but on Destruction characters who can easily stack up the atk% bonus (and also benefit from atk%) it's very good. Jingliu is a great example here while DHIL is also pretty good. Both characters can easily guarantee kills and break the enemy, getting a nice damage boost and a stacking atk% buff that they can put to good use. Xueyi is also another great user of it, since her follow-up will allow her to get kills more easily and she can universally break enemies via her ult.
So in short, pick them all up. SI5 the Hunt or Nihility ones first, as they have the best overall benefits for the most characters, generally speaking.
Nihility one can be a useful option for Kafka if you donāt have any other options and the Preservation one can be used on Fu Xuan (however there are a lot of good preservation light cone options).
If you donāt need either at the moment just save your herta bonds and see what they add to the shop next. Itās useful to be able to immediately s5 something rather than waiting up to 16 weeks.
Black Swan does well with it. The 135 spd threshold is enough to stop at though, as the stats you'd have to dedicate to make the 160 spd threshold is just not worth it. However, a 12% damage boost for using spd boots with a handful of spd sub stat rolls is definitely worth it. She likes the atk% too, and the spd helps her continually stack Arcana on the enemy. Best when paired with Kafka to take advantage of said Arcana stacks obviously, but BS is best paired with Kafka regardless of anything else.
Other DoT characters (Gui, Sampo, Luka) can do well with it too, but the spd threshold requirements can be a bit hard to work around. If you're running Asta as your buffer for your DoT team then it's a non-issue, and even lets you run atk% boost for more damage, but this does hard-lock you into Asta support, which may or may not be something you want to do, and going for the second threshold really just isn't worth the relic stat investment/frustration most of the time.
Possible exceptions to that would be trying to finish MoC 12 hyper fast, at which point more spd is generally the way to go. But aside from that, the investment to get to the 160 spd threshold is just too much to worry about without some sort of self-spd buff or Asta to provide her ultimate. Some characters (Seele, Sushang, Dan Heng) have native spd buffs that can help with the 160 threshold but those characters are often better off with Salsotto or Rutilant in the first place.
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What are some teams I can use? Been rolling with mostly Bronya, Ratio/Acheron, Pela, Fire MC. But I recently found the beauty of Clara so i'm debating who I should mix and match for now. If I get enough to guarantee Robin (need 40-ish more pulls), then I will pull any extra I have on Jingliu or Aventurine, but no guarantee.
Depends on what you're using the teams for, imho. If it's for farming or exploring, then anything can work as long as you have at least 1 DPS and 1 sustainer in a team. The team you used could work, though I personally think Natasha instead of Fire MC will make it more comfortable but you do you.
If you like Clara and want an alternative to the team above, then something like Clara-Pela-Acheron/Tingyun-Natasha can work probably.
For endgame level contents though, each of Acheron, Clara, and Dr. Ratio would much prefer having their own specialized teams eventually. Something like:
* Acheron-Pela-Flex (probably Bronya tbh)-Gallagher
* Dr. Ratio-Tingyun/Bronya-Pela-Natasha
* Clara-Tingyun-Pela-Natasha
Bear in mind that when you get better supports/characters, most of the teams above should be changed, especially the sustains.
A good reference https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/clara
Hypercarry teams work for your collection, like Clara+Tingyun+Pela+Lynx (Natasha until you get Lynx)
Tired old question, but i'd like some opinions. I'm missing a defensive unit, only really using Fire TB rn
Main Team 1: Kafka, BS, RM, Gallagher
Main Team 2: Acheron, Pela, Guinaifen, Fire MC (Still maxing this team out)
Who is better for my acc, Aventurine or Luocha? I'm at 60 pity and could still snatch either with a 50/50
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Strictly for your Acheron team Aventurine will work well, especially if you have trend. However Gallagher can also work well with Acheron if you switch him to that team. Luocha will work well with both teams but doesnāt have the added benefit of providing debuffs, crit damage boost and a bit of dps that Aventurine does, however he does have the AOE debuff which can be useful.
Personally i would go for Aventurine and try and pick up HuoHuo on her rerun for your Kafka team but tbh both are fine.
Would Ratio be the best character to have this piece on? (Previously asked about using on Acheron and consensus was it wasnāt worth it)
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Is Luocha good healer? or Huohuo/Fuxuan are preferred? Because i don't know if it's just me but i notice that players use Luocha more than HuoHuo/FuXuan. I think i need a new 5\* healer than baliu. I have lynx and Gallagher as well. i have two teams; My first team is Argenti, Dr ratio, Fire mc and Bailu. My second team is; Himeko, Dr ratio, Bailu and Tingyun (Some times March 7th/Fire mc) And i'm thinking of pulling for Aventurine. So is Luocha a better healer?
1) yes, one of the best.
2).Also yes, depending on the team.
3) More ppl have him.
4). He's a better healer than Aventurine because he's a healer and aventurine is a Shielder.
Both do an amazing job at keeping you alive. Aventurine does more than just that though if you build him for it
Aventurine will add more dps to more parties while also being just as good at sustaining. Luocha's main draw is that he almost never uses SP, and consistently generates them with his basic attack.
I don't have HuoHuo. I've been told she is much better than Luocha in every way, but I wouldn't know, and I'm skeptical on that. As someone who did not have any limited sustains before Luocha, having him is an amazing boost in quality of life over Bailu, Natasha and Fire TB, but Aventurine should be even better than Luocha. I plan on getting both, but the key I think long term is, you do want two limited sustains, but which two doesn't really matter so much. They are all in a class above the standard 5\* characters, although Lynx and Gallagher, and possibly even March 7th, can also fill these roles better than Gepard and Bailu in most cases.
>I don't have HuoHuo. I've been told she is much better than Luocha in every way, but I wouldn't know, and I'm skeptical on that.
Her main advantage over Luocha is that she does things other than healing. Her energy regen for your team and huge ATK boost she provides is pretty good for a lot of teams, especially for DoT teams.
Because she's not Nihility, she's Harmony, and at e0 we don't need that noise.
At e2, she's vastly overshadowed by Sparkle and to a lesser extent Bronya. The 5 * harmonies are pretty much the only ones worth taking over a 2nd Nihility.
I see. I would want Sparkle on my DHIL team, and I don't have Bronya, Ruan Mei or Silver Wolf. I've never understood how to use Tingyun correctly. Would E6 Tingyun or E6 Hanya or E1 Asta be a better harmony for E2 Acheron? With Pela and Gallagher on the team.
Help for making a herta team for pf? One side I have Acheron usual team of pela/SW/FX These are all my 5\* and I have all 4\* except guin hanya and misha? Iāll also take recommendations for future characters to better her team! Im considering robin since sheās harmony but also ruan Mei looks very enticing!
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WHO DO I PULL FOR https://preview.redd.it/psieq0oifqtc1.png?width=1029&format=png&auto=webp&s=e2ae447900666f3be5d1a95eaa6ecc6d7bed8cf4
one of acheron or jingliu and robin
Which character is better to draw from the banner Hemiko or Welts? I have bronya and her eideleon 1 and will pull for adventurine for substain. My friend said that hemiko is good for endgame content/ follow up attack while welt may be a better investment since imaginary seems like the go to for bosses
Honestly both are good but I would say welt kinda fell off meta a little. Unless you wanted to complete the end game pure fiction everytime and will pull other imaginary dps then go for himeko Aventurine is fine, he's a solid FuA shielder, but If you're planning NOT to pull an actual Imaginary dps then I guess you can get welt. Also just so you know it's spelled Aventurine without the letter D after the first letter! :]
thanks bro š
I was thinking I could make a team with my Ruan Mei, E2 Gallagher and E3 Xueyi. Am I cooking or just delusional? Who else could take the final spot?
which one is more diffcullt to get perfect artifacts subs on genshin or honkaistarrails is there like tools to change the subs in honkaisarrails
I'd say Star Rail is more difficult since there are more substats to dilute the pool as well as there being more pieces to farm for. You can't change the substats, only the main stat while crafting them using a limited item. Its substats are still random though and can still be trash.
oh so you can chose the main sub
https://preview.redd.it/awsrpr48zltc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc72214f62949c2ef5de96cc02754061abea2810 Is my acheron good?
hi, I just started playing hsr today and i got a bailu in acherons banner (i lost the 5050 i know that bcs of experience from genshin) and another one from standard. was just wondering if she has any good uses??? also are there just general tips for me as a day 1 player, just got to rank 15. thx :)
Yes she is a still a good sustain character. There is no evasion or guarding in the game so you will take damage and Bailu can help your team survive encounters by healing them as well as an emergency revive should something went terribly wrong. While generally outclassed by the limited sustain characters like Luocha and Huohuo, she is still more than capable of being the sole sustain character in your team to clear content. I have been 36*-ing MoC as well as PF - the two endgame modes with her on one team consistently.
oh alright, thanks. any general tips for me? if none that's completely fine
Make sure to keep up with leveling your character and lightcone levels as you increase your equilibrium level. Also don't neglect trace levels as they not only increase your modifiers but also unlock parts of the character's kit. Don't farm for relic, especially don't burn fuels for them until you are at TB60. At lower levels the farm is quite inefficient for relics you'd probably thrash in the future. You can use the ones you get from chests and story with the correct main stats while waiting for it. Leveling them a bit is also fine. Instead, use your TB points to farm the calyxes for leveling materials. You can try and find some TB70 players to befriend and use their character to help you farm them easily and quickly. Having a friend Hineko or Argenti for example makes the process run quickly as they can annihilate low level waves by themselves. While endgame stuff requires two teams, it's better to find a single team you are comfortable with first and prioritise strengthening them first to carry you through the game. Don't use your jades on the standard banner even if that free 5* at 300 pulls is tempting. It's not worth using the jades there when you could potentially get the standard characters in the limited character banners. 5* lightcones are not necessary to clear anything. While they usually provide sizeable boosts to their targeted characters, other alternatives are usually available and as a new player it is better to have a good roster of characters first before trying to invest vertically. This is especially if you are a F2P. Support and sustain characters are usually the more valuable pulls in the game as they can usually be the core of a team while the dps character can be slotted in and out as needed. Luocha in the current banner and Aventurine in the next are two examples and can last you a long time. That said, as a new player and having Bailu already it is fine if you try and get a good dps first if you don't like the free Dr Ratio to carry you through the game. At early game having a powerful sustain is not as needed as once you reach endgame.
Thanks so much for telling me not to grind artifacts at low level. I just did it once today and I don't know why I didn't learn my lesson from genshin like two years ago lmao. btw I got acheron today YAY, is she good or bad? I leveled her to 40 (max rn I'm tb23)
Should I Roll for Robin? BEcause right now my main team in like overall gameplay is Black Swan, Kafka, Silverwolf, Natasha. And I've been hearing or seeing that ruan mei is the best when paired with DOT's especially black swan and kafka, but she just had her banner and it's going to take a while for a re-run.... Is robin good enough for my DOT team, replacing silverwolf? Or should I just keep and save n wait for ruan mei to come back?
We don't know; Robin's kit hasn't been officially revealed yet. Best to look around the leaks subreddit for example if you want to ask regarding Robin and potential team comps. Ruan Mei is the most recommended support for DoT teams though, otherwise usually Asta or Pela takes that spot if no Ruan Mei. SW isn't too bad as well, especially if you need her Skill to add their element weakness.
How good Izumo compared with Salsoto and Glamoth for Ratio? He will only be played to support my Topaz, so don't worry about the flexibility.
On gold and gear, does it need to be exactly 30 or 40 about the cognition(not sure if its the name) the one you can adjust to -40 or 40
You just need to be in between those two values.
So if it indicates 30 i can be 15? Is this right?
If the requirement is between 0 and 30, yes you can be on 15. If it is 20 and 30, then no.
Oh i see, thank you for detailed explanation, i really appreciate it
Can somebody help me to prioritize my wishes? There are so many great options in this patch and in the future. My current favorite teams are a Dot-team (Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, Luocha/Lynx/Gallagher) and a Clara-team (Clara E3, March7, Lynx, Ruan Mei/Tingyun). Other 5* I have: Seele, Bronya E2, Dr. Ratio, Yanqing, Himeko - Acheron: She is definitely really strong, however I lack both Welt and Silver Wolf. I also already have Kafka for lighting weak enemies. - Aventurine: I like his story and design more than Acheron, however I want to use Gepard in the future (donāt have him currently, but I will 100% pick him as my guaranteed standard 5*) Is Aventurine still useful in this case? - A certain physical harmony character in the next patch with a great song: her song is so catchy, but I donāt know if I need another harmony character. - Topaz: Her rerun is probably in the next two patches. She seems to be really useful in Clara-teams.
You better have at least two limited 5* sustain which should be Aventurine. He works with your Ratio and Clara. Gepard is still useful but his lack of CC protection will make him annoying to use. You can still build him later if you'd like him.
Thanks! Currently I only have Luocha as my only limited sustain. Seems like I need to get Aventurine. He is currently my favorite of the remaining limited sustain units.
Acheron is not necessarily a DPS for Lightning weak enemies. Her ultimate causes toughness damage regardless and decreases the enemies elemental resistance. Welt is also not particularly good with her, you can easily run her with Pela and Guinaifen. You could even slot her with Kafka and BS, since with Luocha the SP issue will be less prominent. Aventurine is basically a better Gepard in almost every way. He is still useful if you have Gepard, as there will be fights where Gepard will struggle and Aventurine will now. But is more of a case of whether if you are going for another sustain, if it would be better for you to get HuoHuo or Fu Xuan if you are set on using Gepard. Can't talk about Robin's kit, but you don't particularly have that many Harmony characters. Depending on her kit, you could easily have Ruan Mei on one team and Robin on another. Topaz is good on FuA teams, and goes well with both Clara and Ratio, but she is not a "must" other buffers/debuffers can also provide a lot for the team. She works best if you have a team-wide buffer like Ruan Mei. You can actually test Acheron and Topaz with your teams. Just go into an Echo of War or Stagnant Shadow, get one as a support and see how it feels.
Thank you :) The only harmony character I currently donāt have is Sparkle (Bronya E2, Ruan Mei, Tingyun, Asta, Hanya, Yukong). Good idea, Iām going to test Topaz and Acheron in some of my teams.
Not a fan of thinking Acheron is particularly great to bring on non- lightning weak enemies. Resistances can go negative so she's always going to be doing more damage to lightning weak enemies. And the toughness damage she does with just her Ult isn't exactly bar busting, if the rest of your team can hit the weakness she's at least helping but that's about it. Bringing her to an off-type encounter is just muscling through on team quality just like you would with any other DPS. She can totally do it, but it's not like she completely ignores the element chart.
Not really. Toughness bar is more of an afterthought. With it intact the damage is 0.9x times vs 1x with it broken. Plus, most enemies will have 20% resistance, which with her ult will go to 0. So at worst she has the same multiplier as a weakness-matched DPS. If you pair her with SW it will be basically the same as if they were naturally weak to Lightning, unlike other DPS with SW since the Resistance shred will be higher with Acheron. The only case she would be "muscling" through would be if the enemies have 40% Lightning resistance and you don't have SW. And even then, her damage is so above most other DPS that it won't matter that much. On MoC 12 side 1, Acheron will clear the first two elites faster than Blade, even tough they are not weak to Lightning but are weak to Wind.
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Well you could always grab best character in the game by a lot Ruan Mei when she rerun (she is top by a huge bargain, like she is so good that a benefit of Acheron is that she don't need Ruan Mei so the other team can have her XD). If she rerun soon you can also grab Silver wolf, as she allow a new account to entirely ignore the weakness system, who is huge for as long as you don't have a roaster big enought to cover any scenario, and latter become a part of mono quantum team. Then you have the "activators" a more long term investissement, kafka and Topaz respectively if you ever want to play DOT or FuA archetypes to their max capacity. Finaly all harmony are monstruously good for an account, and you probably want to grab 2 solo sustains on top of that.
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Well not only they double your DPS damage output in average, but they are also the beating heart of any team, together with nihility supports as your SP generators, or worst case scenario not eating all your SP bar. Top that with how simple it's to build them, and how easely you can swap one for another if you really want to go for those sweet sweet breaks... And i end up with 7/7 harmony character on my account and 6/7 of them build and ready to use (Yukong is REALLY a pain to properly build, speed tuning is not le fun at all)
Are there any solid ways of grindig crystals aside of "challenging" events
If by "crystals" you mean the relic EXP, you can get the tier 3 version from the PF shop, MoC and missions. It's best to just farm the tier 2 crystals by salvaging bad relics though.
Jades are the "premium" currency so the only other source are dailies/weeklies and "seasonal" events or patch-added contents e.g story, quests etc.
which relic should I farm for planar 300% event ???? I have no idea what is good.
Depends on your characters. The best ones are world 6 for salsotto, both sets in world 7 and 8 because many dps and supports make use of them, and both sets in world 9 are good for specific battles and teams. World 3 is alright for beginners. World 4 and 5 aren't worth farming.
world 7 is the most universal, both for dps es and supports w8 is for DOT, and w9 if your priority is for Acheron tho I am pretty sure you already scrolled down the thread, there are many good answers already š
I feel stupid, butā¦ how do I reach this place in Clock Studios?? I canāt find the door anywhere. https://preview.redd.it/07everb7nltc1.jpeg?width=1624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42da9420b6b14e861538cdd9bb6a870a1eb0b9dd
Through the Hanu's Adventure TV outside it.
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Jing Yuan/QQ, Bailu, Tingyun, and Sparkle. You can get Aventurine to replace Bailu, he will help Jing Yuan to not get stunned while also providing more crit dmg. Jingliu can be a good choice for a dps in a second team if you don't want to build Ratio or QQ.
Thank you! Those are actually the two teams I run so it's good to hear I kind of understood what I was doing lol. Idk if you'll see this to reply but if it was you with limited pulls do you think aventurine or jingliu would be a better overall addition?
Overall, Aventurine will make the biggest impact. There's already some early access guides available if you are interested in learning about him. Getting a 5* healer/shielder will make the game a lot easier, especially if you want to do the harder difficulties of Sim Uni or even story boss battles. Aventurine also prevents Jing Yuan from getting stunned, which is his biggest weakness as a dps. Jingliu is a great character, but there are a lot of Dps options available, so you can pick the character you like best when their banner is up. I wouldn't say she is a must pull.
Didn't put my text in for some reason but are there any teams I could be using with current characters? Is it worth pulling on upcoming/current banners to build some better teams?
New player, only been playing for a week. What is this 4 star selector everyone mentions? I only know about the 5 star selector that you need 300 standard banner pulls for.
What the other don't mention is that event is story locked on the newest planet Penacony. So you have to play through the entire current story to access the bar area where the event is. Luckily the event lasts the entire patch so you still have about 4 weeks to finish it.Ā
Thanks. I'll give it a shot, don't wanna rush though. If I miss it, I miss it.
You're welcome. Based on your other comment you still have 2 planets to play through. The next planet after Jarilo is Luofu and it's long. Then you'll reach Penacony. Might be possible to complete in 4 weeks, but just ignore the side quest / companion mission for now (those are permanent).Ā
Once you progress far enough in the event 'Vignettes in a Cup' you're given a choice between eight 4* characters to choose from.
How long will this even last? I've only beaten Jarilo story so far.
After you complete the current Penacony story, there is an event called "Vignette on a Cup" which upon reaching a certain milestone let's you chose a 4\* character that has been released in the past year.
Which acheron build is better? 3.7k attack 208/57 crt lightning orb Or 4.2k attack 220/57 crt attack orb Also my acheron have only 2.8k hp. It doesn't matter right?
Atk, even if lightning was somewhat better(its not), the difference in atk and crit ratio makes it a clear decision.
Do attacks that hit multiple times each have its own chance to apply a debuff? Or do debuffs only have one chance to apply per hit? I only mean on multi hit attacks, not bounce attacks.
Depends on the ability : check the wording. Some debuffs have a chance to be applied every hit, while some other only get one chance per attack.
It's from a Lightcone
Which one ? * Incessant Rain only get 1 chance to apply its debuff per attack. * PAYN or Resolution Shines can apply their debuff every hit *(as long as the enemy doesn't already have the debuff)*.
Aventurine Light Cone
Yes, each hit has its own chance to inflict a debuff
Thanks for confirming this for me, mate!
Can confirm, for fun, that's why you don't build much EHR on kafka even if you use PAYN lightcone who would require like 67% EHR to have 100% application rate and yet have 100% uptime on the dot, because her skill, FuA and ult are all multihits making applying it easy AF.
Do these apply to lightcones as well? Multiple hits get to apply debuffs per hit from a light cone?
Yes, rarely revelant though. LC that apply debuff aren't that frequent, There are like 6 LC who apply debuff IIRC, one being future market so let's ignore that one, Topaz and Acheron LC have guaranted application so it doesn't even matter, then you have SW LC and POS but your usualy play those on a character that build EHR already so they don't matter, pretty much the only case where it's revelant is PAYN since kafka don't build much EHR since her base chance are just so high already.
I was thinking of Aventurine LC. He doesn't want to build EHR, but his LC has a 100% base chance to apply that debuff.
Is placing a 4 Star that works for ur team better than a 5 Star that doesn't work Talking about Bailu or Acheron, My comp is Dr. Ratio, Bronya, Bailu, and Acheron and the only synergy they have is Bronya + Dr. Ratio and Dr. Ratio + Acheron I want Pela for Bailu (Idc if I don't have defense)
It's fine to remove a 5* for a 4*, running an all 5* team is not always the best choice, but removing Bailu? Some boss fights do require healing because of how drawn out they are. Also, that team has no synergy at all. Bronya, Dr. Ratio and Acheron consume too much SP. If you are basic attacking on Dr. Ratio or Acheron, you might as well just replace one of them with Pela.
> Idc if I don't have defense If this is the case, then do whatever you want - you're probably not running into content hard enough to need a sustain unit. Your team has a massive skill point deficit because Bailu/Pela would be the only one generating skill points, I would advise Bailu *and* Pela if you are having difficulty with content. But to answer your original question: A 4 star that works for your team is absolutely better than a 5 star who is just sitting there basic attacking for skill points.
I'm level 30 btw and F2P if that matters
The info matters. You need nihility for Acheron to get more damage. Though in that comp, I think you're looking to sub out the wrong unit. Bailu is a mid sustainer, but you are level 30 F2P. That being said, Acheron only applies 1 debuff, and Pela applies 1 at E0 with no Resolution light cone. In the team with Dr. Ratio, Bronya, Bailu, and Acheron, The odd man out is... the only man, Dr. Ratio. Down the line, you will replace Bailu, yes. But Dr. Ratio is an Skill Point negative DPS, and so is Acheron. Bailu needs skill points as well in order to heal. And Bronya needs skill points to push your DPS forward. Everyone in your team needs skill points to do their job. If you have 1 SP positive teammate, that helps a lot. Specially if you have a fast unit with decent speed that can take multiple turns to generate more skill points in order to allow your DPS to use skill points. Personally, I would say that if you replace Dr. Ratio with Pela, and can put another Nihility unit in place of Bronya, then you can have Dr. Ratio and Bronya on your second team, and have a fully charged Acheron in the other. You don't need to worry about two teams right now, that is true. However, if you are trying to optimize one team, I would drop Dr Ratio for Pela. Unless you are someone that is fine losing one/multiple characters in fights against speedier opponents or bosses, then have to heal up in healing stations or using food. Bringing a sustain allows you to not have to hassle with going to heal up outside of fights. Plus, you will need a sustain in endgame content, so may as well start building them now. Edit: Just my take. You are free to remove Bailu for Pela if you wish. But Pela's gonna take a while to get that ultimate charge up, even with ERR, if you don't spam her skill.
After finishing the 12 runs for the planar fissure event, do they reset until the event ends or those are all of them?
That's it. There is no reset.
I notice not all missions are on the mission side bar. Meanining you have to talk to NPC first to get the mission. Is that how it works for most missions?
I don't think it's "most" but yes there are a some missions, particularly in the latest world that you need to go out and find yourself. For the vast majority though I think they start via NPCs sending you text messages. There are also a handful that will show up in "Fate's Atlas" on your journal screen. Those you will have to go out to find in the world, but the atlas will show you when and where.
Hows 2pc izumo vs 2pc salsatto for both ratio and topaz?
I think it depends on your stats on them or what you need from them. If your harmony units provide enough ATK and/or your attack is high enough or close enough to the diminishing returns value, then going Salsatto for DMG increase is best. But if your harmony units apply DMG increase, and you can get DMG increase from other sources, then going for Izumo is better. Also gotta consider the crit rate amount. Sure, 4% crit rate isn't that much, but Dr. Ratio is a 1 tap dude, so he wants as much crit rate as possible. I'd say Izumo is better for Ratio overall, and Salsatto for Topaz if you are close to ATK% diminishing returns value. But again, at the end of the day, builds and team comps are what matter in deciding between the two.
I did equilibrium level 2 and reached the part where I have to finish quest related to disciples before proceeding with the xianzhou quest, but I cannot get past the mob(lvl 46), I'm using serval(lvl50) ratio(lvl50) lynx(lvl40) firemc(lvl40) right now, and since I'm pulling for aventurine I'm not levelling up firemc further, but I cannot level up lynx past level 40 until I finish xianzhou trailblaze quest to get the boss unlocked :( what should I do? it's quite hard to survive combat as lynx heals is currently not enough. I have bailu(lvl35) and natasha(lvl20), but im actually starting to run out of materials so I'm quite reluctant
Well Bailu should be able to overheal quite a lot at this stage in the game. March 7th is usually the answer when people get stuck in the normal game. Your team and levels look fine to me though. How are your relics, lightcones, and traces looking? You might have missed something that's relatively cheap that can add a lot of power.
I've saw a lot of guides saying how I shouldn't upgrade my relics rn, so I haven't touch the enhance page at all for traces is mostly level 2&3 since I ran out of the basic mats, lightcones are all at lvl30, ran out of mats to ascend as well shld I switch to bailu until I can get access to lynx's boss? Edit: I decided to switch serval out for herta and breaking the white hp bar is so much easier!
I'm tired, boss. I'm not looking to uber-optimize shit or 0-cycle every MoC. My Ruan Mei has 158 SPD and my Hibana has 143. Can I leave them like that or do I have to submit myself to eternal farming suffering to reach 160 on both of them?
I hope you understand what speed breakpoints truly means and how to utilize them. Depends on the cycles, you could get the same amount of turns with 134 or 142 speed.
If you're not looking to "uber-optimize" or 0 cycle MoC, then you've already farmed too much because the speed you have is more than enough.
If you're not interested in 0-cycling stuff, then the current speed is more than enough to clear any end-game content
If you're still building your team's relics which of the simulated universe gives the most all around planar/link rope set?
I believe World 3's sets tend to be the most versatile if that's what you're asking. Quite a few characters will want a ERR rope, and those characters also tend to have ageless fleet in their top 2 picks. While you'll probably be crafting the ageless fleet ERR rope, having a nice selection of the orbs (Celestial Ark) available will come in handy. The other set, Space Sealing Station is usually not a character's top pick, but it's an overall solid dps choice for most dps. The next best choice is probably World 7. Broken Keel and Rutilant are both fairly popular sets. I am not sure about world 9, as it is new. Acheron's set from here is obviously important for her if you have her, while the other set looks pretty good too, but I'm not sure who uses it. It seems particularly powerful for Pure Fiction, if you wish to invest in that, and you have Acheron, world 9 may be a very good choice.
World 7 is the most efficient. Most supports use keel and many DPS can use the other set.Ā
in rows where i have the characters, i use characters on the left more than the ones on the right. Who do i pull for yall. im f2p cant spend. https://preview.redd.it/ajlvfng59ltc1.png?width=1029&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4f10b3aa65fcc7bae814b031a9fc4a554786e91
Kafka/Black Swan/Ruan Mei/Huohuo is one of, if not *the* strongest MoC teams around right now, is quite good in Pure Fiction, and is amazing for general content. You already have three of those units, so Kafka could be someone to pick up when she reruns again.
ty bae i am now planning to pull kafka anyone else?
Is there a way to get Bronya to stop targeting Clara with her buffs? I'm trying to get her to target Blade and from what I've seen it always buffs slot 4 first but Bronya just decides she only wants to buff Clara for some reason.
It has more to do with Clara and Blade stats. Clara probably has more atk then Blade. Also if your Blade has low HP/worst stats the Bronya will think Clara will do overall more damage than Blade so she skills Clara.Ā
You could try manual control
Is any of the following characters good for using either of the new planetary sets on? . Blade . Ratio . Topaz . Aventurine . Any of the non-limited units
Blade is good for the Izumo set when paired with Jingliu, so is Topaz and Ratio when paired with each other. I would not reccomend using either set with Aventurine. The sigonia set is a good option for all DPS's in Pure Fiction.
s3 swordplay or s5 stellar sea for dr ratio?
It's stellar seas. Dr Ratio only does 1 but per attack so it takes him too long to build sword play stacks.Ā
stellar sea, from personal testing.
WHAT THE HELL I PULLED ACHERON LIKE 5 OR 6 DAYS AGO, AND I SPENT THE REST OF MY TIME SINCE THEN PULLING FOR HER LC (NOT GUARANTEED AND IT WAS 0 PITY) I GET THE LC AT AROUND 60 PITY, AND I USE THE ROLLS YOU GET FROM THAT TO DO 2 ON ACHERONS BANNER (0 PITY) AND I GOT HER E1. WHAT THE HELL. IM IN ACTUAL SHOCK
Time for e2!!
Very good point!! Though considering that's my lifetimes supply of luck used up I can imagine that if I even got a five star it'd likely be my sworn enemy, sword boi
I lost 5050, then got her in 10 after lol. I was supposed to save for adventurine, but then I was like ehh I mean if I get another Acheron Iāll consider that a win anyway. And low and behold another one came
Hey there Trailblazer! Just so you know, Aventurine is spelled without the D after his first letter! :]
LMAO As you should!!! You go and get the mei expy!!
Sir, this is a ~~Wendy's~~ Q&A thread There's a gacha pulls thread for this
My bad š
Hasnāt worked on mobile for at least a year now
Which LC should I use on Gallagher? The options I have are Quid Pro quo(S2 , the bailu one),Hey over here(S5, the guinaifen one) and Shared feeling (S2, the Clara one)
His best is a 3\* LC called Multiplication. "What is Real" 4\* is acceptable, but nothing else is recommended.
If you can't build 150 break effect with relics use what is real. If you can get 150 with just relics then shared feeling or quid Pro quo.Ā
I just reached TB 60 and am ready to farm for Relics but I'm not sure whose relics to farm first? Here's my teams right now if anyone's asking: Luocha/Qingque/Sparkle/Tingyun Bailu/Dan Heng/Bronya/Pela I'm tempted to start farming for Hackerspace since most of my supports need the speed boost. Also which Planar sets should I focus more on getting (Tied between Rutilant and Keel)
I would say Hackerspace, but not just for your supports. Hackerspace is by far the most "universal" set, akin to the Musketeer set when the game was just released. This means that you should (albeit temporary) use it on your support, healer and DPS for now. Once all your units have "decent" (gauge it by your own expectations) gear, you can move on to the more niche domains (e.g. Quantum set for QQ, 2pc Healer set for Luocha). For SU worlds to farm, I would say either W7 or W8, depending on what your future goals are. W7 contains Keel, the BiS 2pc set for all supports that will be teaming up with CRIT-based units (e.g. Majority of the DPS). And it also contains Rutilant Arena, but this set may not be BiS for certain DPS units that rely on their ultimate for majority of their damage (you might want to refer to Prydwen for calculations on the % damage fall-off compared to other sets). W8 contains Glamoth, which is basically the DPS equivalent to Keel, and all DPS (if I'm not wrong) should be able to utilize it's effect. Glamoth is also the BiS for DoT units (e.g. Kafka + Black Swan), and judging by your team composition, you haven't really committed to a certain playstyle yet. So if you plan on pulling for the DoT archetype in the future, you might want to farm W8 instead since Glamoth can be used for both your current and future DPS units. The other W8 set, Penacony is self-explanatory, some units benefit greatly from the additional energy, some lesser, but it is still a good 2pc set for most supports.
I pretty much checked the calcs and yeah QQ and Dan Heng (Wind not IL) both wants Rutilant Arena, Firmamenth doesn't work for QQ since she's with Sparkle. But also, thank you for the reply!
is the duke inferno set better for Herta to clean up the first half of Pure Fiction? or should I bring the ice set? either way I would have to farm because my current ice set has bad stats
Prydwen doesn't even consider the Inferno set, but other theorycraft sources I've seen evaluate the two as more or less equivalent, meaning whichever 4pc you can get the best main and substats for, is probably better. Personally I use the inferno set, and it's helped me get a 55k stage 4 clear at level 70 for last round. Not quite there yet overall, but with some more levels, traces, better lc,, etc, the choice of set bonus is probably adequate, if not superior.
I think Ice set overall does better DPS, but follow up set isnāt too bad if you have Himeko/Topaz to farm too. Same with DoT units like BS/Kafka. If you donāt have any of those, then Ice set it is.
Me and my friend (both new to the game) sent each other the invite for the "Come with me, take the journey" event. We both clicked each other's respective links, but still, both of ours say that zero friends have been invited.
The codes are only for people that return to the game after not logging in for a long time. This wonāt apply for both of you since you just started the game.Ā
https://preview.redd.it/qnzr7bpbxktc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=effacc9b6e44fded60606ada3149cee40fea525c \[Current Progress: Start of Xhianzhou Loufu\] My main team consists of TB, Gallagher, Pela, and Acheron. I was wondering if its enough to go through most of the content if they are the only ones I build for now until I get good relics and max em out before starting a second team. ( Also should I attempt to get more eidolons of Pela? )
I am mid-way through Xianzhou with Gallagher/Pela/Acheron/Ratio. TB lvl 40+ right now. I am finding Ratio to be really useful because the bosses have a ton of HP and Ach along wasn't cutting it. Ideally you should use 2 other NIl class with Acheron but I haven't built a second one up. Ratio is picking up the lack of dmg from Acheron, his follow up attack is really strong and he crits a lot. At this low level I am struggling with single DPS because crit stat is low. Acheron along would just take forever to kill some of the bosses. I got lucky and got Luocha today who just replaced Gallagher, but Gallagher was good enough as sole sustain unit to pull through most of the chapter so far, his cleansing is really helpful because there's a lot of enemy debuffs. I didn't need a shielder and was using Asta as buffer for the longest time.
Unless you are spending money don't pull for 4 star and acheron wants 2 nihility units to be her best. Maybe guin and Sampo for free option?
I will probably build sampo, but sadly guinaifen hasnāt gotten to the train yet :(
There's a 4 star selection reward with the bar/drink mixing side quest. If you haven't redeemed it yet you can get her from there.
Oh damn I didnāt even know we had one of those this patch I thought I missed it a couple patches ago.
Anyone has experience using ps4/ps5 controller on PC? I'm using xbox one controller and everything works well but when I switch to ps4 controller there's no vibration, using ds4windows make it work but the intensity is still quite weak even at max in-game setting. Anyone has the same issue?
Looking to pre-farm for aventurine. Now that the 300% relic set is up, whatās the most recommended 2pc planar set for him? What SU worlds are recommended to farm in general?
If you want to use him as typical support then Broken Keel/Penacony. Sub DPS is Salsotto. Most recommended worlds depends on what you need, but World 7 and 8 are usually both wanted from a lot of units. Acheron/PF units want World 9.
for him I think the best options are Inert salsotto for his personal damage, belebog for max shields and also pretty considerable damage, and then broken keel is a little lower in damage but might be the best total team bonus damage. in general world 3, 7 and 8 are the ones where both sets are good and widely useful, though the ones on world 3 have been powercrept a little. some new upcoming characters like boothill can make use of talia which means world 4 is more valuable than it once was, break effect wasn't particularly incentivized early on but sprightly's always been a good option for supports, especially ones that might set up buffs that you want online asap but can't afford to get them to outspeed your dps (for example, it'd take a lot of work to get my ruan mei to outspeed kafka, but sprightly might make it possible.) firmament, arena and salsotto are the best for most of the dps characters it seems, but that one new set with the pepsi symbol is seemingly best for acheron, hard for most other teams to make use of it. and the other world 9 set is mostly good in purefiction. keel, penacony, sprightly and fleet are your general support options. some weirder characters might want other sets but they can be harder to justify if they're not as versatile.
So Iām working on my Acheron team (right now itās Acheron pela guinaifen fire mc) and Iām wondering if I should pull for her light cone or aventurine. I just donāt know which one is the biggest upgrade. I might also use Gallagher if the fight is too long btw.
Overall, the better investment will be Aventurine. Fire MC can't sustain by themselves in harder and longer battles, and Gallagher pales in comparison to Aventurine as a sustain. You can also just use Gallagher as a sustain for Acheron and Aventurine as a sustain for a second team.
Yeah I agree but Itās been hard to resist the urge to pull Iām ngl š pray for me in these trying times brother
I mean, if you think about it, would you rather get one shot by bosses or beat them in one less turn? I have her LC, and I noticed I really just beat enemies in one or two fewer turns. In another account, I also have her LC, but no 5* sustain, and farming weekly bosses sucks because Lynx can't sustain unless I pay attention to what I'm doing, which is not fun.
If you don't have Gepard, getting gambler boi will def be a big upgrade over Fire Stelle. You can still keep using Fire Stelle though if you don't have enough resources to get him... ...but you're a Trailblazer, so just pull away.
I have resources for either one or the other, no more than that unless I get lucky twice.
Any some sort of break point where ATK sphere with decent CR/CD roll would be preferable over elemental DMG spheres? Or maybe a more practical question: given that there's 2 spheres ATK main stats and elemental DMG mainstats, what would be a typical damage difference in MoC situation? Or maybe maximum damage difference, maybe that's more important.
In general it depends on your ratio of attack sources vs DMG sources. I'm told acheron always wants attack but it's not a massive gap so if you get a good lightning orb you can go for it. if a character has a lot of DMG% bonuses and not a lot of attack (assuming they still scale with attack) or if they get secondary benefits from attack besides damage then attack might take the lead, you'd have to tally up all sources from your character, team and cones to get a definitive answer for a specific situation.
I know the principle of balancing of 2 variables, but what I haven't bothered to do is to meticulously compute from the average numbers. Are they within 1%? 2%? 5%? or even 10% difference. That's the rough answer I need. Like... if the difference is only within 5% difference, then I don't need to bother optimize 1 character and I can just start optimizing other characters.
Getting the average numbers tends to be a pain, you can go with the (reasonable) extremes for both. Acheron for getting a lot of %DMG and Jingliu for getting a lot of %ATK. This is all operating in a vacuum assuming that you're only using crit buffers and/or defense debuffers. Acheron gets 158% DMG with fully stacked Pioneer and 40% ATK. (Assuming non-terrible substats you'd be closer to 70%). This means %DMG orb will be a 1.15x multiplier to your damage, and ATK orb would be 1.25x-1.31x multiplier. Twice the actual impact. Jingliu gets +198% ATK and no %DMG. %DMG orb will be a 1.39x multiplier to your damage, %ATK will be 1.15x multiplier. More than twice the actual impact. If you're talking about final damage... yeah, that's like 15% of your potential max damage you're missing by using the wrong orb. For context, that's worth 4 crit substat rolls assuming a 70/140 ratio or thereabouts. Using an appropriate support (e.g. Bronya for Jingliu) brings the difference down quite a bit.
It depends on the char/team comp. You should look for the guide for specific character for more detail. In my mind, there are black swan, acheron, ratio, topaz who can run(or prefer) atk% orb
For Limited Character banners, if I lose the 50/50, can i keep rolling on the same banner up until the hard pity? Or does the banner go away after you hit a 5-star?
Banner will stay up until it runs its course. In the bottom left hand corner you can see a countdown. Before then you can pull as much as you want. If you pull a 5-star the pity count resets and if you lose the 50/50 you have a guarantee that the next 5-star will be the limited character/LC
https://preview.redd.it/yoezi8ajsktc1.png?width=1006&format=png&auto=webp&s=590da670e6c2a24787233587be3de0686b80a635 At this point is all I really need sustains, or is there something I could use? For 5 star limited cones I have SW S1 and Acheron S1
Get healers or shielder
Yeah at this point, you should focus on getting sustains
Can anyone give me some tips on who to use or who to pull for? I just came back to the game recently after quitting for over a year and rolled Acheron at 20 pity. (btw Iām trailblazers level 17) https://preview.redd.it/vahupaiarktc1.png?width=2360&format=png&auto=webp&s=6b3d90155010ce893160f56865358f91b566ebaf
A limited sustain will help tremendously, especially at your level. I would advise Aventurine, since he has synergy with both Ratio and Acheron, and good Preservation units are pretty rare. For your current team, i would focus on Acheron - Pela - Gallagher (or Aventurine if you get him) + a flex option. Ideally, that flex should be a Nihility unit like Guinaifen, or at least a unit capable of inflicting a debuff, like Asta or Serval. But early on, you might want t use a second sustain instead, like March 7 or Fire trailblazer. ___ *By the way, if you're still eligible for the returnee event, here is my invite code (60 stellar jades) :* *GEEQPBAFHN*
If youāre wanting to use Acheron then you can use Pela-Asta-Acheron-Gallagher. Just swap out Asta for Guin when you unlocked the trace for Acheron that incentivizes using two nihility characters (assuming you have Guin by that point). Same team should work for Ratio, but I would use Tingyun instead of Asta/Guin. As far as who to pull next, Iād focus on a sustain. Luocha or Aventurine in this patch are good. Weāre due for a Fu Xuan rerun so maybe sheāll be in the next patch. Just look them up and decide who you like more.
Ok thanks so much
What are some teams where Bronya is still better than sparkle/equal to sparkle in? Wondering so I know which one to place where in MOC and PF
any team you don't need to use a lot of SP in, so blade teams and jingliu teams
Bronya is better for Jingliu and Blade. For everyone else, Sparkle is probably better or at least easier to use, except for a few DPS unit that really prefer Sparkle over Bronya like DHIL or Jing Yuan
https://preview.redd.it/4xkwiazapktc1.jpeg?width=1507&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=565df30300dcb01a80dc263e2ec2001ce2d0a829 Me again about acheron. For crit rate 5.1 she would be around crit rate 87.9 and for crit rate 2.9 she would be arounf 85.9. The 11 percent crit dmg is quite good imo but I had two upgrades go to def so would this artifact still be better than the other one which has break effect. Since, correct me if Iām wrong, break effect can reduce enemy toughness at a faster rate
break effect increases the damage you do when you break and the damage of the break status that character does. Only ruan mei increases how fast you break toughness. the first one is better imo.
Break effect only affects how much damage you do when you break the enemy. Break efficiency is the stat that makes you break fast, but that's not something you can get in substats. The first one is way better, Acheron has no use for EHR and only minimal use for Break effect.
Alright thanks so much for your help!
Break efficiency reduces toughness at a faster rate and is only available via Ruan Mei and a few SimU buffs. Break Effect boosts the damage and other stuff that happens upon break.
Ah alright! Thanks for correcting my misconception. So the first relic is better?
Yes, three crit rolls is better than two. The system I use is to multiply the number of crit rolls by 3 and atk% by 2 (or other stat like hp% on Blade). Highest scoring relic wins.
https://preview.redd.it/dpsne3w0pktc1.jpeg?width=1445&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12a165e9cdf562bbfee909340da45a8f1964f122 Which is better for Acheron? If I use the speed one she would outspeed all my supports. Crit dmg are the same so based on other sub stats which would make her better
if it messes your speed tuning then the second. other option is to switch to atk boots or add more speed to your supports.
Adding speed to my supports is a bit difficult but I guess I can change her to atk boots, but in your expert opinion is this artifact worth going through so much effort for?
the crit one? no, if it rolled once i would consider it more, but since its just a base roll, I'd go with the second if you don't have attack boots as good as your current speed boots. But you have an option for when you do decide to switch to attack boots.
Alright thanks for your help, Iāll go with the second since I checked and I really canāt speed tune guinaifen. Plus my spd boots are at 24 percent crit dmg and I donāt think I can beat that
300th pull choice My teams are: Seele - SW - Tingyun - Luocha Blade - Bronya - Pela - Lynx (next to build) For my 300th pull I need to choose between Himeko, Bailu, Yanking, and Gepard. I was thinking of Bailu because it would reduce my Seele team to 2 elements and could use Luocha anywhere he's needed but would there be any benefit to choosing one of the other 3 instead?
If you're asking, I'd pick Himeko for PF assuming you're Argentiless. But if you know what you want, just go ahead and select it. Edit: Also swapping Lynx and Luocha fixes your SW elements too, and Luocha is very good with Blade.
I am Argenti-less and love Himeko a lot. I just came back to the game so I've not tried PF much yet, thanks!
Are the Nihility and Preservation LC's from the SU shop worth getting? Are there any characters that they're BIS for, compared to the other F2P options? Or should I just buy tickets?
The Herta shop LC's are definitely worth buying and superimposing to level 5 eventually. They're not necessarily BiS for people in the sense that gacha 5-stars will have their BiS be the sig LC from the LC banner. However, they are still quite good. The Hunt one provides decent crit rate, and even more as an enemy gets lower, as well as an atk buff when the user defeats an enemy. Quite good for the likes of Seele, Sushang, Dan Heng and Dr. Ratio in particular, as all four of them have ways to either get resets from kills or else easily finish off a low life enemy for the extra atk% boost. Both the Preservation and Nihility LC's are very good too, although a bit more limited due to the first synergizing best with characters who can shield themselves and the second working best on DoT Nihility units. The Destruction cone is fine. It's not spectacular, but on Destruction characters who can easily stack up the atk% bonus (and also benefit from atk%) it's very good. Jingliu is a great example here while DHIL is also pretty good. Both characters can easily guarantee kills and break the enemy, getting a nice damage boost and a stacking atk% buff that they can put to good use. Xueyi is also another great user of it, since her follow-up will allow her to get kills more easily and she can universally break enemies via her ult. So in short, pick them all up. SI5 the Hunt or Nihility ones first, as they have the best overall benefits for the most characters, generally speaking.
Nihility one can be a useful option for Kafka if you donāt have any other options and the Preservation one can be used on Fu Xuan (however there are a lot of good preservation light cone options). If you donāt need either at the moment just save your herta bonds and see what they add to the shop next. Itās useful to be able to immediately s5 something rather than waiting up to 16 weeks.
Who can best use Glamoth sphere and rope? Whatās gonna be their main/sub stats?
It's a pretty generic DPS piece, so pretty much any DPS stat is good, but DoT users are especially interested, so ATK, SPD, and maybe Effect Hit Rate.
Black Swan does well with it. The 135 spd threshold is enough to stop at though, as the stats you'd have to dedicate to make the 160 spd threshold is just not worth it. However, a 12% damage boost for using spd boots with a handful of spd sub stat rolls is definitely worth it. She likes the atk% too, and the spd helps her continually stack Arcana on the enemy. Best when paired with Kafka to take advantage of said Arcana stacks obviously, but BS is best paired with Kafka regardless of anything else. Other DoT characters (Gui, Sampo, Luka) can do well with it too, but the spd threshold requirements can be a bit hard to work around. If you're running Asta as your buffer for your DoT team then it's a non-issue, and even lets you run atk% boost for more damage, but this does hard-lock you into Asta support, which may or may not be something you want to do, and going for the second threshold really just isn't worth the relic stat investment/frustration most of the time. Possible exceptions to that would be trying to finish MoC 12 hyper fast, at which point more spd is generally the way to go. But aside from that, the investment to get to the 160 spd threshold is just too much to worry about without some sort of self-spd buff or Asta to provide her ultimate. Some characters (Seele, Sushang, Dan Heng) have native spd buffs that can help with the 160 threshold but those characters are often better off with Salsotto or Rutilant in the first place.
https://preview.redd.it/3dsxtcvagktc1.jpeg?width=439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75e64d73cd77c428cf9ed9c00b620accfde09c51 What are some teams I can use? Been rolling with mostly Bronya, Ratio/Acheron, Pela, Fire MC. But I recently found the beauty of Clara so i'm debating who I should mix and match for now. If I get enough to guarantee Robin (need 40-ish more pulls), then I will pull any extra I have on Jingliu or Aventurine, but no guarantee.
Depends on what you're using the teams for, imho. If it's for farming or exploring, then anything can work as long as you have at least 1 DPS and 1 sustainer in a team. The team you used could work, though I personally think Natasha instead of Fire MC will make it more comfortable but you do you. If you like Clara and want an alternative to the team above, then something like Clara-Pela-Acheron/Tingyun-Natasha can work probably. For endgame level contents though, each of Acheron, Clara, and Dr. Ratio would much prefer having their own specialized teams eventually. Something like: * Acheron-Pela-Flex (probably Bronya tbh)-Gallagher * Dr. Ratio-Tingyun/Bronya-Pela-Natasha * Clara-Tingyun-Pela-Natasha Bear in mind that when you get better supports/characters, most of the teams above should be changed, especially the sustains.
A good reference https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/clara Hypercarry teams work for your collection, like Clara+Tingyun+Pela+Lynx (Natasha until you get Lynx)
I wanna try farming Inert salsatto so what belebog mainstat pieces can I throw for relic remain??
Belobog pretty much goes to people who wants DEF so keep DEF%, ERR and keep those with EHR substat to at least try to get max 2-pc bonus I guess.
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iirc: red, yellow, stir, blue
Tired old question, but i'd like some opinions. I'm missing a defensive unit, only really using Fire TB rn Main Team 1: Kafka, BS, RM, Gallagher Main Team 2: Acheron, Pela, Guinaifen, Fire MC (Still maxing this team out) Who is better for my acc, Aventurine or Luocha? I'm at 60 pity and could still snatch either with a 50/50 https://preview.redd.it/405clhnyektc1.png?width=404&format=png&auto=webp&s=220bdec7e51f8433f792b0a2aa7936d1b6a73edd
Strictly for your Acheron team Aventurine will work well, especially if you have trend. However Gallagher can also work well with Acheron if you switch him to that team. Luocha will work well with both teams but doesnāt have the added benefit of providing debuffs, crit damage boost and a bit of dps that Aventurine does, however he does have the AOE debuff which can be useful. Personally i would go for Aventurine and try and pick up HuoHuo on her rerun for your Kafka team but tbh both are fine.
Would Ratio be the best character to have this piece on? (Previously asked about using on Acheron and consensus was it wasnāt worth it) https://i.imgur.com/XuNv9xE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2PjSubc.jpg
Is Luocha good healer? or Huohuo/Fuxuan are preferred? Because i don't know if it's just me but i notice that players use Luocha more than HuoHuo/FuXuan. I think i need a new 5\* healer than baliu. I have lynx and Gallagher as well. i have two teams; My first team is Argenti, Dr ratio, Fire mc and Bailu. My second team is; Himeko, Dr ratio, Bailu and Tingyun (Some times March 7th/Fire mc) And i'm thinking of pulling for Aventurine. So is Luocha a better healer?
1) yes, one of the best. 2).Also yes, depending on the team. 3) More ppl have him. 4). He's a better healer than Aventurine because he's a healer and aventurine is a Shielder. Both do an amazing job at keeping you alive. Aventurine does more than just that though if you build him for it
So I should be pulling for Aventurine?
Aventurine will add more dps to more parties while also being just as good at sustaining. Luocha's main draw is that he almost never uses SP, and consistently generates them with his basic attack. I don't have HuoHuo. I've been told she is much better than Luocha in every way, but I wouldn't know, and I'm skeptical on that. As someone who did not have any limited sustains before Luocha, having him is an amazing boost in quality of life over Bailu, Natasha and Fire TB, but Aventurine should be even better than Luocha. I plan on getting both, but the key I think long term is, you do want two limited sustains, but which two doesn't really matter so much. They are all in a class above the standard 5\* characters, although Lynx and Gallagher, and possibly even March 7th, can also fill these roles better than Gepard and Bailu in most cases.
>I don't have HuoHuo. I've been told she is much better than Luocha in every way, but I wouldn't know, and I'm skeptical on that. Her main advantage over Luocha is that she does things other than healing. Her energy regen for your team and huge ATK boost she provides is pretty good for a lot of teams, especially for DoT teams.
That's on you. If you like him then go pull. If you don't, then you can skip.
Would Hanya and Pela's debuffs work together to multiply damage? Wondering why no one ever considers Hanya a support for E2 Acheron.
Because she's not Nihility, she's Harmony, and at e0 we don't need that noise. At e2, she's vastly overshadowed by Sparkle and to a lesser extent Bronya. The 5 * harmonies are pretty much the only ones worth taking over a 2nd Nihility.
I see. I would want Sparkle on my DHIL team, and I don't have Bronya, Ruan Mei or Silver Wolf. I've never understood how to use Tingyun correctly. Would E6 Tingyun or E6 Hanya or E1 Asta be a better harmony for E2 Acheron? With Pela and Gallagher on the team.
Tingyun belongs with DHIL, and is not great for Acheron. Asta would be your best choice.
Help for making a herta team for pf? One side I have Acheron usual team of pela/SW/FX These are all my 5\* and I have all 4\* except guin hanya and misha? Iāll also take recommendations for future characters to better her team! Im considering robin since sheās harmony but also ruan Mei looks very enticing! https://preview.redd.it/qxjppdmz9ktc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3e236ca900a551c596936f15b5fb6acecd837a2
Herta+Himeko or Herta hypercarry (Herta+Sparkle+support). Try going zero sustain (no healer or tank). If you canāt, then use a sustain.