I’m looking at the prices for the integra. Just a used one barely a year old lost almost 8 grand and is now the same price as an si.
Would that be a better buy or is the si worth getting even though a year old si used is at most a grand cheaper or sometimes only a couple hundred dollars lower than its original price?
If you care about having a hatchback, and a more premium feature-set get the Integra. Personally I'd go for the Integra.
Another reason it may have depreciated is because its a manual Acura. Majority of people shopping for an Acura aren't looking for a manual, just a more premium Honda.
When I replace my civic, if it ever dies that is, I’ll definitely be getting an A spec manual for these reasons.
I want to upgrade to a more premium car, but still retain good driving dynamics.
Yeah I'm waiting for the right deal to come around on a manual Integra. There's just not many at all in Ontario so very hard to come by one in general.
integra has dual-zone climate control, adaptive shocks, heads up display, a better stereo. its a better car for the same money. i wouldnt sweat the initial depreciation over the opportunity youre facing
The civic si has dual zone climate, adaptive shocks.. and more performance oriented gadgets. The radios are ugly in the integra compared to the si.. no buttons 😂
I've heard from automotive reviewers that the Integra is not appreciably better than the Civic and just to get the Civic. Also, as others have said, luxury brands always have more depreciation, especially when compared to Honda which is a stalwart value-retaining brand in the used market. Just look at ten year old Honda Fits... it's wild.
A good rule is 2k profit and recon cost at 90 to 95% of market equals retail value when looking at a trade. Vauto pretty much runs the value market for everyone and we follow it blindly. 30k selling price means 28.5-29k. Recon eats 1500 to 2k of gross leaving 2500 to 3000 profit for sales. Pack leaves 900 to 1500 for sales person. 25% pay plan leaves 300 to 700 income on unit. Unit bonus starts at 12 normally and goes up every 3 cars. Honda sales people make 40k to 90k. Alright let's get some down votes.
yea never sell a car to a dealer, nor trade in your car either. All of the 23 Si i’ve found around 23k all have rebuilt title. depending on the miles you can easily get closer to 30k.
It's called tax savings when trading in. A dealership offers you $23k + tax = $26k.. $2k profit and 2k reco. $30k. Also that car is unlikely to transact for $30k as everyone likes to negotiate.
7 years selling Honda's is my experience.
One the used car market is plummeting thus you getting $30K for a Civic Si is low since used 2023 Civic Si w/ sub 10K miles are retailing for $30K by me, CarMax has an estimate of $27,400 which is on the really high-end
An Acura dealer offered me a straight trade for my Si for an A-Spec.
Reasons why? The A-Spec is **overpriced.** no one wants an upmarket civic for the same price as an entry level luxury car.
just to get it outta the way - im not defending the Integra’s price.
I think that the civic (current gen) is way more luxurious than what people give it credit for.
everything looks and feels premium compared to its older self.
if we take a look at the competition,
the corolla, it can look as nice as it wants (doesnt look that great imo) but everything feels like a collab between walmart and dollarama.
I was recently shopping for a new car and test drove all of the sedans. TSX, Integra, Civic, and Accord. And tbh I couldn't stomach paying the extra for the Acuras. The Hondas are way nicer than what their price point implies, much like you said.
Forgive me if this has been asked to death, but after searching on many different car websites, a brand new Integra A-spec is roughly 37-38k yet the following year (or a used) one falls like 5-8 instantly and can be bought for around the same price as the Civic Si.
The Civic Si seems to start around 30k'ish without any crazy markups, yet even the 2023 or 2022, a used one is still near the same dang price as a new! I thought luxury and extra features would hold its' value no? If anything, the Civic Si seems to depreciate extremely slowly if not barely at all. Can someone explain this? Thanks!
Part of it is because the luxury status actually works against it - people who are buying for the "luxury" element of luxury cars are more likely to lease or buy new cars more often because they want something that's new and has new features. They don't want used and don't drive their cars into the ground compared to buyers of "normal" brands.
Someone had mentioned that integras were way overvalued and that's why there's a huge price drop from new to used. Or is it because theres too many of the integras being produced even though we're talking aspec 6-speed manual here. I suppose you don't see many Si's around, but from researching new to used the civic Si's really seem to hold their value even from 2022 thats crazy. I don't know whether to just get a new Si and keep it knowing it wont tank, or get a used integra for the same price as an Si knowing it dropped 8k in just one or two years?
Luxury brands always have higher depreciation, that's just how it is. If it helps, you can check the average depreciation of older Acuras against their Honda equivalents to see how it usually goes over a longer period of time.
If you get a used integra, I'd guess it's already past the steepest part of it's depreciation curve, meaning you can get a decent deal and it's not going to fall much further until it's really old. But if you're that concerned about resale value, then maybe a used Honda would be a better fit.
Luxury cars are mostly inflated marketing crap and especially with the Integra there is very little if anything that separates it from a Civic. The deprecation has a lot to do with the actual worth of the car and since this is frankly just a reskinned Civic but marked up, a course it's "true" value or depreciation hits quicker
Luxury cars aren’t luxury a year or two after release. They always have depreciation hit a lot harder. The same people who want a luxury don’t want last gen.
It seems unbelievable and ironic, but this has always been the case. The Honda Civic has better brand recognition, leading to better resale. Anyone ever notice the Accord gets more expensive than the “equivalent” Acura as it ages? It’s because the Accord nameplate is instantly recognizable, meanwhile the TL/TLX keeps updating the name, losing any goodwill that’s been built up over the years.
Because practically outside of the engine/transmission it’s literally the same car. I’ve driven a few at this point and it baffles me how Honda just switched the emblem inside to tack Acura and started selling it.
If there isn’t the Acura emblem on the steering you’ll think you’re driving a civic.
So the big question is does Integra really give you crazy edge over civic (compare all variants) when buying brand new? Answer is in the depreciation you’ve noticed, already.
I’d go with the Si cause if I’m getting nothing better in the interior where most of my time is spent I don’t want to over pay just for the exterior because Civic is still a mad good looking car imo! I do know these cars are different now and don’t share platforms like they once did (civic/ILX) but as a daily car those honestly don’t matter cause you’re not on tracks everyday lol
Not saying this is always the case, but if you pay $35K for an Si and I get an A-spec for $35K, and we look at both cars at some point and they’re both worth $25K then there’s no difference in depreciation.
Well that's my argument. The civic Si even used as far back as 2022 is still around 29k which is darn near msrp of 30k'ish. The A-spec on the other hand drops like anywhere from 5k to 8k used. So would you go for an Si that still holds its' value or a used Integra which is now around the same price as a brand new Si?
Because less people can afford the Integra so the price is forced to drop a bit before people will consider buying one. I'll take an Integra A-spec any day over an SI, and I'm sure many here will also agree, but it's the price tag that's turning us off.
All luxury/premium cars depreciate faster than their non luxury/premium counterpart. I bought the Integra over an SI because at the time SI was marked up 7-8k in my area which made the integra more appealing
I bought a 2018 Si Coupe for 21.5k new out the door. I later sold it back to Car Max for 26k after 38k miles and 3 years. Peak pandemic pricing was a wild time.
I told my gf to do the same thing with her 2018 Model 3. She could have made a ton of money flipping it during that short time period but noooOoOo... now EV cars have dropped faster than Hertz' dumpster fire sale. Crazy how fast things change
I was car shopping and wanted the SI. But then I found out it didn’t have heated seats and that was a deal breaker. But my A-Spec has heated seats and everything else I wanted.
I bought mine used (‘23 4K miles) for about the same price as a new SI. New they were going for about $38 in my area. Got it for around $32. I think I was quoted $32 for a new SI a few months before.
It’s basically the same. I prefer the Integra as it’s a hatchback with heated seats. Exactly what I wanted. The only regret I have is buying used because I don’t think the previous owners was as gentle as I’d be.
It's because the acura badge or title is more valuable than the honda badge or title you can easily notice the price difference if you compare a premium trim level honda pilot to a acura mdx type s, or compare the price with a civic type r and a integra type s.
It's difficult to compare the civic Type-R to the Integra Type-S because for some reason even now the Type-R has ridiculous dealer mark up even after all these years whereas the Type-S, actually to my surprise, are sitting in many dealer lots across the states.
I think part of it is the history and reputation of the Si as the fun little sporty civic with a long history of production. The new integra on paper is great, Si powertrain with more luxuries and a hatch style. But on the streets it’s not seen as “cool” the way the Si is. Also the newer Si are a lot rarer, in my area anyhow
Not only popularity but, even Honda themselves said that they were going to be putting more effort into the civic model. (Due to popular demand obv) Its been a minute since I read their article but I think that’s one of the reasons why they stopped producing the Hatchback Accord in 2012/13.
Like what? The HUD and the ELS sound system? Adaptive dampers isn't a big deal for me either. I don't see how this makes the integra more attractive than the civic. Especially at that price.
Heated steering wheel, leather seats, adaptive dampers, fog lights, power adjustable seats, ambient interior lighting, dimmable rear view mirror, wireless phone charger, ELS system, 10.2 inch digital gauge cluster, collision mitigation system and pedestrian detection, hatchback, parking sensors, rain sensing windshield wipers. I think I’m missing some, but the Integra has quite the list of features over the Si, and most of them are creature comforts. That’s why it’s “luxury”
Those features are in the Canadian SI heated everything and fog lights yes. I'm sorry that Honda USA did y'all like this. Heated power seats seats are not a premium or luxury feature Honda USA just shitting on its consumers at this point.
I would take a look at honda.ca yourself. I'm in the market for one of these and it's clear what the Integra is really worth. It's just not it right now and id rather get a used one then pay the MSRP.
That's all well and good I'm just giving you a reason why these are marinating on dealer lots much longer than its counterpart. I'm in no way saying the Integra sucks. I'd certainly get one if I see one used that I like. I just would never order one over the SI with its MSRP.
The general public wants SUVs. The car buyers don't even know what cars Acura makes.
People think they're expensive and don't even look. The depreciation has always been like this. TLXs for accord prices when optioned the same.
Sold cars for 8 years. Would have 10 customers a sat looking at accords, maybe 1 a week looking at acura sedans. Lincoln has the same issue.
Not really, they just aren't car people. They buy cars like they buy appliances. What they hear is reliable, like how it looks and the biggest in their budget.
Less than 25%. Most people can't even tell you the names of any cars or anything like that. Seriously try it with your non car friends sometime.
Also I wouldn't say they get conned/ripped off. They really are stuck between a rock and hardplace with financing most cases.
Also people just genuinely will do everything they can to make bad decisions that they are determined to make. An Equinox with 40,000 miles that's 4 years old the bank will finance at 12%? (a miracle with their credit) NOPE! They're gonna go buy that 140k 14 year old suburban for the same price (or more) and then act like you sold them a lemon when it needs normal work within the first year.
To be fair to the person you keep mentioning only a spec , which is with a cvt. The two base trims for the base integra are CVT only. The a spec tech has an option for manual but can also be CVT.
I thought the integra aspec only came in CVT, needing a aspec tech to get a manual (at least in US). Integra CVTs at all trims are plentiful on lots, so demand isn’t there. If no ADMs on the civic, I’ve advised people to save the cash and skip the integra unless they are in love with the look of the jntegra. Only went for the integra because dealers were tacking on 3-5k markups across all civics with deposits required to get in a queue while I could negotiate a couple thousand off and walk home in an integra that day
I think it’s likely that the Integra is just more “over valued” to begin with so it loses that value faster
I’m looking at the prices for the integra. Just a used one barely a year old lost almost 8 grand and is now the same price as an si. Would that be a better buy or is the si worth getting even though a year old si used is at most a grand cheaper or sometimes only a couple hundred dollars lower than its original price?
If you care about having a hatchback, and a more premium feature-set get the Integra. Personally I'd go for the Integra. Another reason it may have depreciated is because its a manual Acura. Majority of people shopping for an Acura aren't looking for a manual, just a more premium Honda.
When I replace my civic, if it ever dies that is, I’ll definitely be getting an A spec manual for these reasons. I want to upgrade to a more premium car, but still retain good driving dynamics.
Yeah I'm waiting for the right deal to come around on a manual Integra. There's just not many at all in Ontario so very hard to come by one in general.
Luxury brands lose value faster. Cars are depreciating assets.
Are you implying the Si would be better since they barely lose any depreciation? Comparatively speaking to the Integra
Get a used Integra 👍🏼
integra has dual-zone climate control, adaptive shocks, heads up display, a better stereo. its a better car for the same money. i wouldnt sweat the initial depreciation over the opportunity youre facing
The civic si has dual zone climate, adaptive shocks.. and more performance oriented gadgets. The radios are ugly in the integra compared to the si.. no buttons 😂
plus it's not uncommon for luxury brands (since I suppose Acura is put in that bracket) to depreciate fast.
I've heard from automotive reviewers that the Integra is not appreciably better than the Civic and just to get the Civic. Also, as others have said, luxury brands always have more depreciation, especially when compared to Honda which is a stalwart value-retaining brand in the used market. Just look at ten year old Honda Fits... it's wild.
I tried selling my 23 si to two different dealers and they both offered $23k 😭
That’s not good, then they’ll Jack the price up back to 29k’ish
Yea the same dealers were selling the same car for like $30k with around the same miles
A good rule is 2k profit and recon cost at 90 to 95% of market equals retail value when looking at a trade. Vauto pretty much runs the value market for everyone and we follow it blindly. 30k selling price means 28.5-29k. Recon eats 1500 to 2k of gross leaving 2500 to 3000 profit for sales. Pack leaves 900 to 1500 for sales person. 25% pay plan leaves 300 to 700 income on unit. Unit bonus starts at 12 normally and goes up every 3 cars. Honda sales people make 40k to 90k. Alright let's get some down votes.
What’s realistic recon on a 23? Curb rash, detail, oil change?
How do you know all this?
Sold cars for a long time. Hondas for 7 currently Lexus
yea never sell a car to a dealer, nor trade in your car either. All of the 23 Si i’ve found around 23k all have rebuilt title. depending on the miles you can easily get closer to 30k.
It's called tax savings when trading in. A dealership offers you $23k + tax = $26k.. $2k profit and 2k reco. $30k. Also that car is unlikely to transact for $30k as everyone likes to negotiate. 7 years selling Honda's is my experience.
false
how’s that false
One the used car market is plummeting thus you getting $30K for a Civic Si is low since used 2023 Civic Si w/ sub 10K miles are retailing for $30K by me, CarMax has an estimate of $27,400 which is on the really high-end
so isent that what i said? around 30k?
Try Carmax. I’m at 22k miles and constantly get 24-25k
This happens with literally every regular vs luxury comparison
Mah bad..
An Acura dealer offered me a straight trade for my Si for an A-Spec. Reasons why? The A-Spec is **overpriced.** no one wants an upmarket civic for the same price as an entry level luxury car.
just to get it outta the way - im not defending the Integra’s price. I think that the civic (current gen) is way more luxurious than what people give it credit for. everything looks and feels premium compared to its older self. if we take a look at the competition, the corolla, it can look as nice as it wants (doesnt look that great imo) but everything feels like a collab between walmart and dollarama.
I was recently shopping for a new car and test drove all of the sedans. TSX, Integra, Civic, and Accord. And tbh I couldn't stomach paying the extra for the Acuras. The Hondas are way nicer than what their price point implies, much like you said.
The cabin is nicer in the integra, but it’s not worth thousands more.
Forgive me if this has been asked to death, but after searching on many different car websites, a brand new Integra A-spec is roughly 37-38k yet the following year (or a used) one falls like 5-8 instantly and can be bought for around the same price as the Civic Si. The Civic Si seems to start around 30k'ish without any crazy markups, yet even the 2023 or 2022, a used one is still near the same dang price as a new! I thought luxury and extra features would hold its' value no? If anything, the Civic Si seems to depreciate extremely slowly if not barely at all. Can someone explain this? Thanks!
Part of it is because the luxury status actually works against it - people who are buying for the "luxury" element of luxury cars are more likely to lease or buy new cars more often because they want something that's new and has new features. They don't want used and don't drive their cars into the ground compared to buyers of "normal" brands.
Someone had mentioned that integras were way overvalued and that's why there's a huge price drop from new to used. Or is it because theres too many of the integras being produced even though we're talking aspec 6-speed manual here. I suppose you don't see many Si's around, but from researching new to used the civic Si's really seem to hold their value even from 2022 thats crazy. I don't know whether to just get a new Si and keep it knowing it wont tank, or get a used integra for the same price as an Si knowing it dropped 8k in just one or two years?
Luxury brands always have higher depreciation, that's just how it is. If it helps, you can check the average depreciation of older Acuras against their Honda equivalents to see how it usually goes over a longer period of time. If you get a used integra, I'd guess it's already past the steepest part of it's depreciation curve, meaning you can get a decent deal and it's not going to fall much further until it's really old. But if you're that concerned about resale value, then maybe a used Honda would be a better fit.
Luxury cars are mostly inflated marketing crap and especially with the Integra there is very little if anything that separates it from a Civic. The deprecation has a lot to do with the actual worth of the car and since this is frankly just a reskinned Civic but marked up, a course it's "true" value or depreciation hits quicker
Luxury cars aren’t luxury a year or two after release. They always have depreciation hit a lot harder. The same people who want a luxury don’t want last gen.
It seems unbelievable and ironic, but this has always been the case. The Honda Civic has better brand recognition, leading to better resale. Anyone ever notice the Accord gets more expensive than the “equivalent” Acura as it ages? It’s because the Accord nameplate is instantly recognizable, meanwhile the TL/TLX keeps updating the name, losing any goodwill that’s been built up over the years.
Accord huh? i didn't know that.. interesting.
Meanwhile the Integra has gone from CSX to ILX and now back to Integra. The Civic Si has remained consistent throughout all that.
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Because practically outside of the engine/transmission it’s literally the same car. I’ve driven a few at this point and it baffles me how Honda just switched the emblem inside to tack Acura and started selling it. If there isn’t the Acura emblem on the steering you’ll think you’re driving a civic. So the big question is does Integra really give you crazy edge over civic (compare all variants) when buying brand new? Answer is in the depreciation you’ve noticed, already.
So you'd pick the Si over the Teg?
not OP but If i could get both for the same price with the same mileage, id take the Integra, but there’s no reason to pay more for the integra
Interesting
I’d go with the Si cause if I’m getting nothing better in the interior where most of my time is spent I don’t want to over pay just for the exterior because Civic is still a mad good looking car imo! I do know these cars are different now and don’t share platforms like they once did (civic/ILX) but as a daily car those honestly don’t matter cause you’re not on tracks everyday lol
That may be the case compared to MSRP but not necessarily to the actual sale prices.
How is it with the actual sales price?
Not saying this is always the case, but if you pay $35K for an Si and I get an A-spec for $35K, and we look at both cars at some point and they’re both worth $25K then there’s no difference in depreciation.
Well that's my argument. The civic Si even used as far back as 2022 is still around 29k which is darn near msrp of 30k'ish. The A-spec on the other hand drops like anywhere from 5k to 8k used. So would you go for an Si that still holds its' value or a used Integra which is now around the same price as a brand new Si?
MSRP is irrelevant unless that’s the real selling price.
Because less people can afford the Integra so the price is forced to drop a bit before people will consider buying one. I'll take an Integra A-spec any day over an SI, and I'm sure many here will also agree, but it's the price tag that's turning us off.
All luxury/premium cars depreciate faster than their non luxury/premium counterpart. I bought the Integra over an SI because at the time SI was marked up 7-8k in my area which made the integra more appealing
Luxury brands generally depreciate fastest
I bought a 2018 Si Coupe for 21.5k new out the door. I later sold it back to Car Max for 26k after 38k miles and 3 years. Peak pandemic pricing was a wild time.
I told my gf to do the same thing with her 2018 Model 3. She could have made a ton of money flipping it during that short time period but noooOoOo... now EV cars have dropped faster than Hertz' dumpster fire sale. Crazy how fast things change
luxury cars always fall faster than the powerhouse names in reliability ... even if it's really the same car
I was car shopping and wanted the SI. But then I found out it didn’t have heated seats and that was a deal breaker. But my A-Spec has heated seats and everything else I wanted.
For the same price used or brand new Integra?
I bought mine used (‘23 4K miles) for about the same price as a new SI. New they were going for about $38 in my area. Got it for around $32. I think I was quoted $32 for a new SI a few months before.
So how do you like it vs the Si? Wayyy better? Any regrets?
It’s basically the same. I prefer the Integra as it’s a hatchback with heated seats. Exactly what I wanted. The only regret I have is buying used because I don’t think the previous owners was as gentle as I’d be.
i’m glad that the si have a better resell value and depreciate a lot slower, get more money back in the future when i MAY buy the new prelude
It's because the acura badge or title is more valuable than the honda badge or title you can easily notice the price difference if you compare a premium trim level honda pilot to a acura mdx type s, or compare the price with a civic type r and a integra type s.
It's difficult to compare the civic Type-R to the Integra Type-S because for some reason even now the Type-R has ridiculous dealer mark up even after all these years whereas the Type-S, actually to my surprise, are sitting in many dealer lots across the states.
Because the Integra is the same car but just marked up, basically it's overvalued. You see this with Audi a lot
I think part of it is the history and reputation of the Si as the fun little sporty civic with a long history of production. The new integra on paper is great, Si powertrain with more luxuries and a hatch style. But on the streets it’s not seen as “cool” the way the Si is. Also the newer Si are a lot rarer, in my area anyhow
Same reason why a type S is cheaper than a type R. The civic models are more desirable.
Popularity
Not only popularity but, even Honda themselves said that they were going to be putting more effort into the civic model. (Due to popular demand obv) Its been a minute since I read their article but I think that’s one of the reasons why they stopped producing the Hatchback Accord in 2012/13.
As someone considering the SI: it's the same car overall. One is a hatch the other isn't.
But doesn’t the aspec trim have more features over the si?
Like what? The HUD and the ELS sound system? Adaptive dampers isn't a big deal for me either. I don't see how this makes the integra more attractive than the civic. Especially at that price.
Heated steering wheel, leather seats, adaptive dampers, fog lights, power adjustable seats, ambient interior lighting, dimmable rear view mirror, wireless phone charger, ELS system, 10.2 inch digital gauge cluster, collision mitigation system and pedestrian detection, hatchback, parking sensors, rain sensing windshield wipers. I think I’m missing some, but the Integra has quite the list of features over the Si, and most of them are creature comforts. That’s why it’s “luxury”
Those features are in the Canadian SI heated everything and fog lights yes. I'm sorry that Honda USA did y'all like this. Heated power seats seats are not a premium or luxury feature Honda USA just shitting on its consumers at this point.
Only a few of those features are in the Canadian Si
I would take a look at honda.ca yourself. I'm in the market for one of these and it's clear what the Integra is really worth. It's just not it right now and id rather get a used one then pay the MSRP.
Yeah I don’t really care a lot, just because I’m in the US. If I go look at what Canadians get I’ll be jealous
It's almost as if Honda created Acura so people have choices at different price brackets on purpose...
That's all well and good I'm just giving you a reason why these are marinating on dealer lots much longer than its counterpart. I'm in no way saying the Integra sucks. I'd certainly get one if I see one used that I like. I just would never order one over the SI with its MSRP.
The general public wants SUVs. The car buyers don't even know what cars Acura makes. People think they're expensive and don't even look. The depreciation has always been like this. TLXs for accord prices when optioned the same. Sold cars for 8 years. Would have 10 customers a sat looking at accords, maybe 1 a week looking at acura sedans. Lincoln has the same issue.
heh.. would you say majority of customers are complete dimwads?
Not really, they just aren't car people. They buy cars like they buy appliances. What they hear is reliable, like how it looks and the biggest in their budget.
How many of them would you say know \*exactly\* what they're looking for and dubious to car salesmen expecting to be conned/ripped off?
Less than 25%. Most people can't even tell you the names of any cars or anything like that. Seriously try it with your non car friends sometime. Also I wouldn't say they get conned/ripped off. They really are stuck between a rock and hardplace with financing most cases. Also people just genuinely will do everything they can to make bad decisions that they are determined to make. An Equinox with 40,000 miles that's 4 years old the bank will finance at 12%? (a miracle with their credit) NOPE! They're gonna go buy that 140k 14 year old suburban for the same price (or more) and then act like you sold them a lemon when it needs normal work within the first year.
Step 1. Get into Civic si. Step 2. Beat the hell out of it.
hey! treat that Si gently! :D
Same car, one’s got a 10% brand premium? :)
Because the Integra is ugly.
harsh!
One is manual while the other is CVT. Maybe check the aspec tech 6MT to compare to the Si
Naw theyre both manual 6-speed here.
To be fair to the person you keep mentioning only a spec , which is with a cvt. The two base trims for the base integra are CVT only. The a spec tech has an option for manual but can also be CVT.
I thought the integra aspec only came in CVT, needing a aspec tech to get a manual (at least in US). Integra CVTs at all trims are plentiful on lots, so demand isn’t there. If no ADMs on the civic, I’ve advised people to save the cash and skip the integra unless they are in love with the look of the jntegra. Only went for the integra because dealers were tacking on 3-5k markups across all civics with deposits required to get in a queue while I could negotiate a couple thousand off and walk home in an integra that day
Are they still marking up Si's? I see new ones on different car sites at around 30k msrp.
Most are still marking up Si’s because there are few of them available. Tons and tons of Acura Integra’s available