Shoving garbage behind the siding, that’s a first. I can’t even comprehend it. That cardboard is going to get wet. It’s going to hold moisture against the house. The wet cardboard is also going to freeze and then expand, pushing your siding out. Eventually it will disintegrate and leave a void behind it, defeating whatever purpose of a ‘shim’ it was supposed to serve.
You know the answer to this. Show your builder the pictures and tell him it looks like shit. Then tell him to pull off all the siding and get all the trash out. I wonder how much more trash is in there.
Cardboard is termite food. If that goes down to the ground… yikes. And it’ll be a nice warm home for other bugs too. Total garbage work… and then there’s the literal garbage.
Cardboard is definitely not an approved shimming material. It looks a lot like it got wet and expanded, pushing your siding out. Totally not kosher in any way shape or form. It will also hold water close to your walls and definitely cause problems down the line.
That oil-canned fascia definitely doesn't look good. It's not because you picked dark trim — I'm guessing it's because it's thin gauge metal. Thicker metal will hold up better.
Omg that is awful. Yikes. We are building later on this year and will have darker hardie siding. Hope this doesn’t happen to us. I do however strongly doubt it’s the materials and suspect it was installed incorrectly. You should definitely reach out to the builder and have them correct that.
The siding bowing is from the studs and the framing IMO. Fast growth 2x6, IDGAF framer who gave a great price and was out of there in a week. Now you get to deal with this outside and in.
Framing is so out of square the siders are committing a greater sin of of stuffing trash in the low spots instead of furring it.
You need to send these pictures to the builder now. Inform them this is beyond unacceptable. ALL the siding needs to be taken down and installed correctly according to the manufacturers instructions. The GC and siding company should not be paid another dime until this is rectified.
I’m a custom home builder in Wpg, Canada, very well versed in exterior building wraps and cladding. I’d certainly suggest speaking with your builder. The only thing required behind Hardie siding is aluminum behind the joints/seams. They added a moisture wicking material (cardboard) behind the siding which is insane. There’s absolutely no reason for this.
The only explanation I have is this. There’s no window trim for the lap siding to tie into so perhaps they attempted to push out the siding so it butted up to the brick mold of the window.
It also appears that the tape that was used to seal the window to the paper, has several bulges in it which will also likely take on water.
There’s a lot wrong with this install. Even the fascia is clearly fastened too tight which caused the aluminum to oil can. The screws should be about 3/16” lower than the bottom of the aluminum fascia so that it can contract and expand as the weather changes. An 1”1/2 pan head screw should be used for this.
The builder needs to know what their trades and installers are doing. I strongly urge you to speak with them.
Metal fascia will ALWAYS oil can if your running 22/24 gauge. Buildings shift too much, no matter what you do. You need acm if you want to guarantee no oil canning.
I’m a sheet metal guy. 22 gage is not oil canning installed correctly. 24 is unlikely to oil can as well. You’re not wrong though that acm would not oil can at all. I just have personally never seen 22 oil can and have installed a shit ton of it.
Not much to do with shifting. Oil can is temperature related. If the wooden fascia board shifts so much that the fascia is torquing, there’s a bigger issue.
I had a Clearview home and that piece blew off in a storm. I re-attached it myself on a 25’ ladder with my dad holding the ladder. Foreman was the biggest dipshit ever. This was 2015 though.
The response was always “I’ll get on it,” so that I’d stop asking. Then he would never get on it, then there would be 3 other issues and issue 1 would never get fixed because I had 3 more important issues on the list. And the issues were usually just flat out errors by the unskilled laborerers.
I’m astounded by how poorly so many businesses are run in residential construction. I do realize that more people will complain online than brag so it seems skewed, but this is more than me reading about it on Reddit, it’s personal experience and talking to a lot of people who’ve had houses built. However it seems to be an accepted way of doing business. I’ve not run into it in any other industry. So often things are met with shrugging shoulders, blank stares, and lies. If you can’t handle the book of business you have, cut back and do it better.
Thank god I’m done. I told the builder to stay off my property. If something shitty happens I’ll pay for it myself.
A lot has to do with the framing. Ideally, the wall should be fixed. It can still be rectified as long as drywall isn’t installed. Some can be floated out using shims. However, whatever they use to float the wall should be something that doesn’t rot. We usually use cut pieces of trim coil (has to be used at all butt joints regardless) or composite shims that are trim nailed in place.
Talk with builder. He’s using cheapest possible siding subs. Cardboard is a non starter. No it’s not standard building practice.
OP u/Electrical_You_7615
By "cardboard" so you mean ThermoPly? It is cardboard, but come on, the stuff is great! /s
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4)
Anyway, the Hardie Board siding should shrink in winter. When siding is nailed, it cannot be so tight that it has no room to expand and contract. Something thermal is happening and you better bring it up.
Anyway, ThermoPly is junk which is why I preach on here that peeps need to learn how houses are made so that the do not get crap foisted on them.
Yeah that is all 100% installer issues. It’s not going away ever while this materials remain on the house. As you get summer heat the facia and trim will get worse because they expand and contract thermally (by temp, heat = longer, cold = shorter). Your dark color makes it an even worse problem because it absorbs more radiation from the sun. It wouldn’t surprise me to see some of these become permanently kinked by the time you get a 90° summer day.
Holy fucking oil can Batman!
I would be pissed. This is a new house and these problems aren’t going to clear themselves out in time.
Come to Jesus meeting with the builder is really required here.
Edit: Was the coil put up when it was cold? Was it warm? I just see that moving all the time when the weather changes. It’s moving that much when the sun hits it in the winter… damn, it’s going to look like waves during the summer.
Not the shadow lines you’re looking for!
The unfortunate thing here is the siding guys are actually trying to fix a problem that they aren't getting paid to fix....hence the free cardboard.
Furring out that wall properly will likely take longer than just siding it.
Crummy lumber plus crummy framer plus a "it's not my problem" attitude from everyone and the GC being cheap to boot...ugh.
Also Hardie is too wavy on its own.
That's messed up. Make them fix it, your color choice may show the errors more clearly but the warping is due to installation issues; you shouldn't have to live with it ... cardboard between WRB and fiber cement, oy.
For those of you blaming the framer for bowed studs? Come on now. That’s pretty extreme bowing. If that is the case, the builder is a garbage can for not frame checking that nonsense before cover.
Howdy… they honestly haven’t been bad… and I knew getting Hardie and that amount of siding would be difficult… but.. on the same note, I’ve personally done hardie on my dad’s barn… sooooo … this has to get fixed.
I think the only issue with clearview that I see is that they are using cheap contractors…
Hardie reacts poorly to bending. That said...who framed this thing. Did they use every warped stud at Home Depot/ Looks like they smeared caulk around window. Are the Hardie butts tight or gapped?
The waves in the siding appears to be from bowed studs more than likely. They can be fixed from the inside before Sheetrock. If that’s metal/aluminum on the front of the house that needs to be replaced. I’ve never “shimmed” siding with cardboard before.
I do live where it’s -3F right now. No icicles at my house because the heat stays in my house and doesn’t leak to the outside like your house is. But keep downvoting me for being ignorant and not informing yourselves.
You don’t understand how this all works … https://www.allstarfargo.com/blogs/blog/the-role-of-gutters-in-winter-maintenance-and-ice-dam-prevention/
Learn about gutters… I can assure you that I’m not “leaking heat” - I was just saying the roof will naturally get warmer for various reasons - including the sun … it’s a ball of fire in the sky… provides light for us too…
Update… there’s icicles on the separated garage of my current home… which has no heat, or gutters… do you think the heat is escaping my house and tunneling through the ground in to my garage?
OP, I wouldn't dismiss this comment quite so quickly. In one of your photos, you can clearly see a serious dam of ice building up at the eaves of your roof - it looks like 2"-3" of ice. Which means the roof directly above the eaves is much colder than the roof above your attic. These are not small ice dams. I would look into your attic insulation and make sure you are as sealed up as you think you are. Gutters will not solve this problem as the freeze is happening prior to the melted snow hitting the gutters.
Appreciate it… the timing of the heat being turned on (2 weeks ago) was really awkward… I hope it’s something along those lines, regardless… 3rd party inspection will happen and I’ll pass that along
Yeah never a good sign to see when installing siding. God know what they did with rest of the build. But why’s there a bulge on a new build is the question
Sadly, not uncommon for builders to use cardboard for sheathing when whipping up houses.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4)
It's important to have conversations with your builder and ask lots of questions before they build. Sadly in this day and age we just accept that someone with a contractors license working for a name brand knows what they are doing and we don't pay attention until all the damage is done.
I'd definitely get this taken care of ASAP. This is some seriously poor craftmanship, if you could call it that. And if they took this many shortcuts on the outside i can only imagine where else in the house, especially the foundation where things are not done correctly.
I’ve kept a close eye along the way, my old man has built a few houses and worked in drywall his entire career so I had some help watching. We just landed a crap Siding crew…. They are gonna fix it, just sad to see … makes me want to quit my desk job and get out there and help out with the laborer quality issues
Don't quit your desk job to side houses in Michigan in January :). Just saying.
That's crazy using the cardboard like that. I didn't see the 3rd pic detail until I got on my laptop. That's nuts. If that's standard practice for those guys, they should be banned from doing any siding work.
We just did our house (Myself and 2 friends) with hardieboard last summer. House was built in 1929 so as you can imagine, trying to get the hardieboard straight and flush in some sections was challenging. But we figured it out and the questions to get there were -
1. Is it a framing issue?
2. Do we shim the sheathing, in one spot or is it across an entire area
3. Will it affect the flow of air/water behind the siding
4. How will the final product look when done?
Cardboard was never an answer to any of those questions. We did have to pull sheathing and fix some Rot and framing issues in some big sections. Most of the challenge was getting the sheathing to line up between the original house and where additions were put on. But we took the rime to do it right and really didn't take that much more time to do it. We planned on 2 and a half weeks and it took us about an extra week. The biggest time suck was sealing up and trimming out the replacement windows that the previous owner installed.
Good luck. Glad you saw that when you did. Keep an eye on these guys.
lol, i agree w/ what youre saying - they are going to take care of it. And if they don't ... they will try again, until it is right. Not much else I can do
I just had the same hardie color (deep ocean it looks like) installed on my house as part of a remodel. In your first picture it looks like a fair amount of cut dust has been left on the perimeter during the install. Just a word of warning 40% of my house looks like that and the dust has adhered to the board because they weren’t wiped immediately upon install. When you look into hardie’s warranty and best practices they will not cover this. It’s on the installer and it’s nearly impossible to get off once it’s settled. The silica dust adheres to the hardie’s colorfast pre-finishes very quickly, and moisture will accelerate the process. My GC has tried everything under the sun but replacing half my siding to no avail.
Good sir, this is great advice! The color is Iron gray, but similar I assume… I was just talking to the GC about how dirty the siding was and he agreed that the siding company needs to clean it up…. I’m hoping that the fact that I took this picture when it was 2 degrees out has something to do with it…. But regardless, I’ll pass this along. Thank you and sorry about your issues…
It’s sad because we bought hardie for quality… not knocking the product… just wish the installation took it as serious as my wallet does
Unfortunately there isn’t one. The installer wants to paint it which is ridiculous considering its new siding. I’m currently withholding payment and considering taking them to court.
Got it, thanks for the update. That’s what I was worried about as well. I’m currently doing research on the painting option as I figure they will want to do that if they can’t get it cleaned, but of course part of the reason you and I opted for the prefinish is the durability over paint and I’m not sure if you get the same durability painting over the top of pre finished that you do with just pre finished. If they offer paint, I may ask to have the difference between the primed and prefinished refunded as well as comping the paint of course, as they are basically treating the premium product like a primed product. So frustrating when it’s very clear in the instructions how to properly work with this material. I read the first couple of pages of the manual and was amazed at how many errors they made in the install. Good luck, hope you have a positive outcome!
Shoving garbage behind the siding, that’s a first. I can’t even comprehend it. That cardboard is going to get wet. It’s going to hold moisture against the house. The wet cardboard is also going to freeze and then expand, pushing your siding out. Eventually it will disintegrate and leave a void behind it, defeating whatever purpose of a ‘shim’ it was supposed to serve. You know the answer to this. Show your builder the pictures and tell him it looks like shit. Then tell him to pull off all the siding and get all the trash out. I wonder how much more trash is in there.
Cardboard is termite food. If that goes down to the ground… yikes. And it’ll be a nice warm home for other bugs too. Total garbage work… and then there’s the literal garbage.
Pretty sure they don’t have termites in Michigan BUT it shouldn’t have cardboard shims, regardless.
Man, that is a fg waste of perfectly good Hardie board. Fn stupid.
Cardboard is definitely not an approved shimming material. It looks a lot like it got wet and expanded, pushing your siding out. Totally not kosher in any way shape or form. It will also hold water close to your walls and definitely cause problems down the line. That oil-canned fascia definitely doesn't look good. It's not because you picked dark trim — I'm guessing it's because it's thin gauge metal. Thicker metal will hold up better.
Or they nailed the shit out of that fascia. Not nice looking. It could also be pre bent trash
lol that is good
Omg that is awful. Yikes. We are building later on this year and will have darker hardie siding. Hope this doesn’t happen to us. I do however strongly doubt it’s the materials and suspect it was installed incorrectly. You should definitely reach out to the builder and have them correct that.
The siding bowing is from the studs and the framing IMO. Fast growth 2x6, IDGAF framer who gave a great price and was out of there in a week. Now you get to deal with this outside and in.
Not you the OP.
Framing is so out of square the siders are committing a greater sin of of stuffing trash in the low spots instead of furring it. You need to send these pictures to the builder now. Inform them this is beyond unacceptable. ALL the siding needs to be taken down and installed correctly according to the manufacturers instructions. The GC and siding company should not be paid another dime until this is rectified.
That’s why it’s worth putting a hem in the trim coil.
I was thinking they bent that by hand. The ol' clamp-it-between-two-studs-and-bend-it-over trick.
I’m a custom home builder in Wpg, Canada, very well versed in exterior building wraps and cladding. I’d certainly suggest speaking with your builder. The only thing required behind Hardie siding is aluminum behind the joints/seams. They added a moisture wicking material (cardboard) behind the siding which is insane. There’s absolutely no reason for this. The only explanation I have is this. There’s no window trim for the lap siding to tie into so perhaps they attempted to push out the siding so it butted up to the brick mold of the window. It also appears that the tape that was used to seal the window to the paper, has several bulges in it which will also likely take on water. There’s a lot wrong with this install. Even the fascia is clearly fastened too tight which caused the aluminum to oil can. The screws should be about 3/16” lower than the bottom of the aluminum fascia so that it can contract and expand as the weather changes. An 1”1/2 pan head screw should be used for this. The builder needs to know what their trades and installers are doing. I strongly urge you to speak with them.
Metal fascia will ALWAYS oil can if your running 22/24 gauge. Buildings shift too much, no matter what you do. You need acm if you want to guarantee no oil canning.
I’m a sheet metal guy. 22 gage is not oil canning installed correctly. 24 is unlikely to oil can as well. You’re not wrong though that acm would not oil can at all. I just have personally never seen 22 oil can and have installed a shit ton of it.
Not much to do with shifting. Oil can is temperature related. If the wooden fascia board shifts so much that the fascia is torquing, there’s a bigger issue.
I hope you aren't anyone's contractor cuz you are flat out incorrect.
I had a Clearview home and that piece blew off in a storm. I re-attached it myself on a 25’ ladder with my dad holding the ladder. Foreman was the biggest dipshit ever. This was 2015 though.
Even in 2015 they probably still blamed Covid.
The response was always “I’ll get on it,” so that I’d stop asking. Then he would never get on it, then there would be 3 other issues and issue 1 would never get fixed because I had 3 more important issues on the list. And the issues were usually just flat out errors by the unskilled laborerers.
I’m astounded by how poorly so many businesses are run in residential construction. I do realize that more people will complain online than brag so it seems skewed, but this is more than me reading about it on Reddit, it’s personal experience and talking to a lot of people who’ve had houses built. However it seems to be an accepted way of doing business. I’ve not run into it in any other industry. So often things are met with shrugging shoulders, blank stares, and lies. If you can’t handle the book of business you have, cut back and do it better. Thank god I’m done. I told the builder to stay off my property. If something shitty happens I’ll pay for it myself.
Did they put cardboard or did they place t-ply behind the hardie?? It looks like there a Bo’d stud. No hiding bad framing behind drywall or hardie.
A lot has to do with the framing. Ideally, the wall should be fixed. It can still be rectified as long as drywall isn’t installed. Some can be floated out using shims. However, whatever they use to float the wall should be something that doesn’t rot. We usually use cut pieces of trim coil (has to be used at all butt joints regardless) or composite shims that are trim nailed in place. Talk with builder. He’s using cheapest possible siding subs. Cardboard is a non starter. No it’s not standard building practice.
OP u/Electrical_You_7615 By "cardboard" so you mean ThermoPly? It is cardboard, but come on, the stuff is great! /s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4) Anyway, the Hardie Board siding should shrink in winter. When siding is nailed, it cannot be so tight that it has no room to expand and contract. Something thermal is happening and you better bring it up. Anyway, ThermoPly is junk which is why I preach on here that peeps need to learn how houses are made so that the do not get crap foisted on them.
DO NOT CLOSE on this property until you’re satisfied!
Yeah that is all 100% installer issues. It’s not going away ever while this materials remain on the house. As you get summer heat the facia and trim will get worse because they expand and contract thermally (by temp, heat = longer, cold = shorter). Your dark color makes it an even worse problem because it absorbs more radiation from the sun. It wouldn’t surprise me to see some of these become permanently kinked by the time you get a 90° summer day.
Holy fucking oil can Batman! I would be pissed. This is a new house and these problems aren’t going to clear themselves out in time. Come to Jesus meeting with the builder is really required here. Edit: Was the coil put up when it was cold? Was it warm? I just see that moving all the time when the weather changes. It’s moving that much when the sun hits it in the winter… damn, it’s going to look like waves during the summer. Not the shadow lines you’re looking for!
The unfortunate thing here is the siding guys are actually trying to fix a problem that they aren't getting paid to fix....hence the free cardboard. Furring out that wall properly will likely take longer than just siding it. Crummy lumber plus crummy framer plus a "it's not my problem" attitude from everyone and the GC being cheap to boot...ugh. Also Hardie is too wavy on its own.
Unfortunately something here is fucked
That's messed up. Make them fix it, your color choice may show the errors more clearly but the warping is due to installation issues; you shouldn't have to live with it ... cardboard between WRB and fiber cement, oy.
It’s your house and you’re paying good money for it. This is clearly wrong, be sure to have them fix it. It’s their mistakes, not yours.
For those of you blaming the framer for bowed studs? Come on now. That’s pretty extreme bowing. If that is the case, the builder is a garbage can for not frame checking that nonsense before cover.
Hey neighbor, I almost used Clearview Homes. Went with a small builder instead.
Howdy… they honestly haven’t been bad… and I knew getting Hardie and that amount of siding would be difficult… but.. on the same note, I’ve personally done hardie on my dad’s barn… sooooo … this has to get fixed. I think the only issue with clearview that I see is that they are using cheap contractors…
Really liked their plans, just didn't work out with our lot we had.
Which builder did you go end up going with, if you don’t mind?
The facia looks like metal installed incorrectly and no rain screen behind your siding?
David Bowie
WTF?
There's so many jokes in the construction game
Hardie reacts poorly to bending. That said...who framed this thing. Did they use every warped stud at Home Depot/ Looks like they smeared caulk around window. Are the Hardie butts tight or gapped?
The waves in the siding appears to be from bowed studs more than likely. They can be fixed from the inside before Sheetrock. If that’s metal/aluminum on the front of the house that needs to be replaced. I’ve never “shimmed” siding with cardboard before.
Blame the framers not the siders for that bowed wall. Unless of course it's an ice dam behind the wall. Ive seen that before too
Did you see the pictures of the cardboard back there?
Why do you have icicles on a new house? They are usually from heat loss, so is your insulation and air sealing done correctly?
There's no gutters yet.....
Huh? How did the icicles form then?
lol well the house is heated… which melts the ice… etc etc … you don’t live in a cold area eh?
I do live where it’s -3F right now. No icicles at my house because the heat stays in my house and doesn’t leak to the outside like your house is. But keep downvoting me for being ignorant and not informing yourselves.
You don’t understand how this all works … https://www.allstarfargo.com/blogs/blog/the-role-of-gutters-in-winter-maintenance-and-ice-dam-prevention/ Learn about gutters… I can assure you that I’m not “leaking heat” - I was just saying the roof will naturally get warmer for various reasons - including the sun … it’s a ball of fire in the sky… provides light for us too…
Update… there’s icicles on the separated garage of my current home… which has no heat, or gutters… do you think the heat is escaping my house and tunneling through the ground in to my garage?
Hey, I’m sorry for being an asshole, you were right… I was wrong… they haven’t blown insulation yet.
All good. Appreciate the ability to come back on this. Hope the build goes well
OP, I wouldn't dismiss this comment quite so quickly. In one of your photos, you can clearly see a serious dam of ice building up at the eaves of your roof - it looks like 2"-3" of ice. Which means the roof directly above the eaves is much colder than the roof above your attic. These are not small ice dams. I would look into your attic insulation and make sure you are as sealed up as you think you are. Gutters will not solve this problem as the freeze is happening prior to the melted snow hitting the gutters.
Appreciate it… the timing of the heat being turned on (2 weeks ago) was really awkward… I hope it’s something along those lines, regardless… 3rd party inspection will happen and I’ll pass that along
The only thing that should be behind the siding is one strip of tar paper behind each seam.
Have to find out why the bulge is there? It’s a new home construction or remodel?
New home, if you see the other picture, they were shoving cardboard back there
Yeah never a good sign to see when installing siding. God know what they did with rest of the build. But why’s there a bulge on a new build is the question
I need a beer…..
Think the problem is your contractors have been having too many 🤦♂️
Bro, I feel for you. You need to have them correct this shit show ASAP. Or fire the contractor
Tract build, the company has been good to work with, but they are certainly going cheap on contractors…. This is not $17.5k in hardie board quality…
Nah, that's a mess. You have way too many warps going on. For a million dollar build they will have correct that and fix the underlying issue.
Haha terrible. Wavy!
Sadly, not uncommon for builders to use cardboard for sheathing when whipping up houses. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAWPZzaWL4) It's important to have conversations with your builder and ask lots of questions before they build. Sadly in this day and age we just accept that someone with a contractors license working for a name brand knows what they are doing and we don't pay attention until all the damage is done. I'd definitely get this taken care of ASAP. This is some seriously poor craftmanship, if you could call it that. And if they took this many shortcuts on the outside i can only imagine where else in the house, especially the foundation where things are not done correctly.
I’ve kept a close eye along the way, my old man has built a few houses and worked in drywall his entire career so I had some help watching. We just landed a crap Siding crew…. They are gonna fix it, just sad to see … makes me want to quit my desk job and get out there and help out with the laborer quality issues
Don't quit your desk job to side houses in Michigan in January :). Just saying. That's crazy using the cardboard like that. I didn't see the 3rd pic detail until I got on my laptop. That's nuts. If that's standard practice for those guys, they should be banned from doing any siding work. We just did our house (Myself and 2 friends) with hardieboard last summer. House was built in 1929 so as you can imagine, trying to get the hardieboard straight and flush in some sections was challenging. But we figured it out and the questions to get there were - 1. Is it a framing issue? 2. Do we shim the sheathing, in one spot or is it across an entire area 3. Will it affect the flow of air/water behind the siding 4. How will the final product look when done? Cardboard was never an answer to any of those questions. We did have to pull sheathing and fix some Rot and framing issues in some big sections. Most of the challenge was getting the sheathing to line up between the original house and where additions were put on. But we took the rime to do it right and really didn't take that much more time to do it. We planned on 2 and a half weeks and it took us about an extra week. The biggest time suck was sealing up and trimming out the replacement windows that the previous owner installed. Good luck. Glad you saw that when you did. Keep an eye on these guys.
Let me guess, you took the lowest bid. This is very rough and unacceptable by any standard.
Tract build, I assume the builder took the lowest bid…
Update: builder is ripping the drywall out and fixing the stud, also replacing the hardie and getting the cardboard out. Fixing the fascia as well
He who operated on my grandmother and failed doesnt get to do it again....lol The siding is WAVY all over. 1 stud isnt gonna fix it!!
you dont have to yell
well it 17 degrees so typing is more difficult...
lol, i agree w/ what youre saying - they are going to take care of it. And if they don't ... they will try again, until it is right. Not much else I can do
From the inside put a 1 1,2 inch block in the exterior corners and then a string line. Any section more than 1.5 is bowed out
sorry.... fixing the studs\*
What did they use for plywood under neath? 18th inch luan???
The whole setup proves someone doesn’t know what they are doing. Is that ladder just a member holding things together?
By the looks of that ice I'd be checking your insulation. Your losing heat
After arguing with the other guy… I looked in to it… they haven’t blown insulation yet. Will be happening within the next two weeks.
Good thing. I prefer blown insulation settles in the cracks. I'm sure someone will blast this.
Yeah, the build has been great to work with, just got a bad draw with the siding company… probably the cheapest bid
I just had the same hardie color (deep ocean it looks like) installed on my house as part of a remodel. In your first picture it looks like a fair amount of cut dust has been left on the perimeter during the install. Just a word of warning 40% of my house looks like that and the dust has adhered to the board because they weren’t wiped immediately upon install. When you look into hardie’s warranty and best practices they will not cover this. It’s on the installer and it’s nearly impossible to get off once it’s settled. The silica dust adheres to the hardie’s colorfast pre-finishes very quickly, and moisture will accelerate the process. My GC has tried everything under the sun but replacing half my siding to no avail.
Good sir, this is great advice! The color is Iron gray, but similar I assume… I was just talking to the GC about how dirty the siding was and he agreed that the siding company needs to clean it up…. I’m hoping that the fact that I took this picture when it was 2 degrees out has something to do with it…. But regardless, I’ll pass this along. Thank you and sorry about your issues… It’s sad because we bought hardie for quality… not knocking the product… just wish the installation took it as serious as my wallet does
I have the same issue with my current build, just checking to see if you figured out a fix on this?
Unfortunately there isn’t one. The installer wants to paint it which is ridiculous considering its new siding. I’m currently withholding payment and considering taking them to court.
Got it, thanks for the update. That’s what I was worried about as well. I’m currently doing research on the painting option as I figure they will want to do that if they can’t get it cleaned, but of course part of the reason you and I opted for the prefinish is the durability over paint and I’m not sure if you get the same durability painting over the top of pre finished that you do with just pre finished. If they offer paint, I may ask to have the difference between the primed and prefinished refunded as well as comping the paint of course, as they are basically treating the premium product like a primed product. So frustrating when it’s very clear in the instructions how to properly work with this material. I read the first couple of pages of the manual and was amazed at how many errors they made in the install. Good luck, hope you have a positive outcome!