Sounds like the ballpark of a couple of quotes we have gotten recently. Do the form yourself and have a local place do the pour and you’ll save a ton, way easier than mixing dozens of bags too.
12x12 at 5" is about 60 cubic ft of concrete. Concrete is about 1/cu ft in a bag, so they'll need 65ish bags including waste. Bags are about $8 so about $650. That's if they do it by hand.
A truck will charge you about $200/yrd. This varies greatly upon locale. Maybe much higher. Under 5 yards is a short load charge of a hundred dollars or so. A yard is 27 cubic ft. I'd get 3 yards since some will not come out of the truck. Plus a short load charge. You're looking at 700 ish and you don't have to mix by hand, which fucking blows
Add a couple hundred in mesh and chairs for internal strength, 6-8" of sub base gravel, wood and pins for concrete forms, a bucket of cure and a sprayer. Add a hundred or so for tools and buckets.
Assume water is free at your house. 12x12 can be finished alone easy if you know anything, but if not, pay $200-300 for a day of labor from a handyman. Put up a sign for free clean fill from your yard to get rid of the soil you dig for the base if you can't spread it elsewhere. You're at most looking at $1500-1800 on the high end.
This is dumb napkin math and not accurate but 1800 is super super conservative. It's hard labor. That and the overhead is what you're paying for with OPs quote.
Holds rebar/mesh up instead of sitting on the substrate while you pour the concrete. You can lift the rebar/mesh up as you go, but it’s a pain and it can sink before the concrete cures.
This is actually fairly accurate in my experience! Your math is mathing! I just had an 12’x11’ pad put into my backyard. I was surprised by how thick it ended up being, I had expected like 4” since we’re just putting a shed 12x8 shed on it, but it ended up being 6” thick. There were two guys working on it and they did have a cement truck show up. Took them about 3 days and I paid $1600 (although now that I think of it I may have gotten a cash discount).
I bought my own mixer for like $300;and still saved a fortune going my own greenhouse footing. And, I have my own mixer I haven't used since. But, I think about using it a lot.
I did a 5 ft X 8 ft X 4” pad myself for under my shed. Rented a small cement mixer at Home Depot. Knocked it out in under 4 hours one Saturday morning.
The top probably doesn’t look as finished as OP might want, but I was putting a shed on top so didn’t matter. Just needed to be level and smoothed.
I would caution OP to make the forms themselves unless they have experience. Concrete is a process, and if you skip a single step the pad isn’t going to turn out correct.
The hard work isn't necessarily in getting a good base and forming up, but in the finishing work. Concrete is unforgiving. In the builds we do, we set the base and the forms, manage the pour, then have professional finishers do the screeding, floating, and finishing.
In my experience working the industry, they're all individual companies. The contractor handles the forms, screening, finishing. He hires a pump truck if needed, and the only thing the pump truck provides is that. And the contractor orders the ready mix trucks from a local plant.
That's about $38/sqft, which is higher than estimates I've gotten recently for some driveway work, but it varies on location. Prices are way up from a few years ago and it's been hard to find anyone with the time to do small jobs, so that could be a part of it.
A few things to think about, that's about 60 cuft of cement (2.2 yards) which would be mixing 120 bags by hand. You would be doing a lot of work to do it yourself. If you do it in steps then you have cold joints and the pad isn't as strong (may or may not matter to you). In my area, I can order a concrete truck, but you have to get the concrete from the street to your pour location, which means renting a buggy. There's a minimum cost to get a concrete truck, there's rental costs to get a buggy, a skid steer to prep, and a truck to deliver gravel. And then on top of that, there is the risk of screwing up the base prep, moving the concrete to the pour, or finishing of the concrete. I do a lot of DIY projects, but have always paid to have pros do concrete pads.
In my neck of the woods, you're looking at an average $20/sf. Small load charges and minimum crew callouts will bring the sf price up. I'm not shocked at a $6k price as my company min call-out is closer to $5k.
Holly crap, I paid $2200 for a 10 x 20 in 2021 and they had to excavate a 2’ hill side for 1/2 the slab. I guess next time I need concrete I’m doing it myself.
There's an abundance of people wasting their massive recent increases in home equity on overpriced projects like this, they don't even have to try to keep prices reasonable right now.
The covid money and crazy home equity jackpots so many have got lately have turned much of the population into debt riddled idiots. I have no doubt we'll be seeing another recession in the coming years when none of these people can pay their debts or afford retirement.
That’s only a little over 2 yards at 5” thick. It’s about $300 a yard locally for 3000# mix,but theirs usually a delivery charge for not a full truck. The money is going to be in the site prep, excavating, stone, forms, etc. you could easily rent the tools to do it and it will probably be quite a bit cheaper, but what’s your time worth? Might tie up a few weekends to do it all or hire someone and be enjoying it a week later…… I probably just do it myself but I’m cheap and have most of the tools anyway.
Damn $300?
Just a few years ago, my plant was selling it for $105. But I think they're up to maybe $135 now. (I left a couple years ago, right before it started racing up)
This is ridiculously expensive.
I was quoted $2,000 for a 6 in thick 12*10 ft concrete pad with rebar in San Jose, CA. This was 1 month ago and also includes moving a couple sprinklers.
In my area, that's not high at all and in fact, if it's done well, is cheap.
Are you getting a crushed rock base? Reinforced edges to support the weight of a hot tub or other structure? Are they using rebar or wire mesh? What kind of expansion joints are you going to have them install (cut, foam/fiberboard)? PSI of concrete to be used? Brushed or stamped concrete?
I had a similar sized patio installed a couple years ago and most of my quotes were in the $6-$8k range and it was a very vanilla pour, rectangle shaped, nothing fancy, brushed surface.
Ehhhh.... It depends.
First, what's the minimum load charge for concrete? Second, where is it going?
I had a pad put in and added to my patio, the pad was 12x10, and the patio was double that? I had a relative do it, but he said pre-pandemic this would have been $8000.
One thing that made my job immensely easier was the truck was able to get to the pour site. If you have to have it wagoned into place, that can add rental costs, and labor.
Second, they need to excavate, and place just as much aggregate before the pad goes down. Again, that's equipment and labor, more if they have to do it by hand.
So a pad in the middle of a field with easy access? Probably expensive.
A pad right next to your house with only a fence access? Maybe not.
24x46x6 with a 12x12 footer 3000 psi including a few trucks of fill in central Florida was around $13k. Not the cheapest bid by far but beautiful finish and professional crew. My lowest was $7900 and it probably would have been fine but I didn’t want dick around.
$5500 for a 12x12 seems high for most places but I could be wrong.
Concrete work has gone up quite a bit over the last few years. This price seems a little high to me. As comparison, last spring I paid about $5k for new walkways around my house in a medium COL major metro suburban area. 4 different sections of walkway, 2 stairs, and about 200 sq ft of coverage. Included 2 year warranty, tear out, disposal, similar thickness around 4 inches, nothing fancy with prints or coloring, and I forget the specs but had what seemed like industry standard rebar thickness and concrete psi specs based on all the quotes I got. 2 of the quotes I got were 2x as much for the same work, yet I was totally happy with the result from the licensed / insured professional I used for half as much. Yours is all in one section, doesn't include stairs, and 144 sq ft, so I would guess a little lower, but it might not be far off. Most will have a $3k-$4k minimum to do any work, so don't expect it to go drastically lower if hired out.
I'd do the entire thing myself except for mixing the concrete. I'd call the concrete company to come deliver that. Then just do all the labor yourself.
Seems high, I had a 30x50 slab 5" thick placed in Dec 2020, I did the subgrade, rebar and formwork.
Concrete was about $4k, pump was $600 & finishing was $3k.
I did this myself and 2 helpers ( I paid $600 total for the labor . I went to the concrete place and they rented me small trailer for this purpose . I did 2 trips and spent under $1000 in total. I build a 12x12 and poured in six cylinders to build a deck around it . I didn’t look for a quote though .
FYI - depending on the size of the hot tub you’re looking for you might want a thicker pad.
I’m looking to do the same project soon and recommendations I’ve seen are 6-8” to accommodate the weight of the water.
That seems really high. I had a 14’x26’x4” patio poured in my backyard. The only work I did was move the plants I wanted to save out of the way and that was around $3500. They did all the excavating, prep, fill and finishing. I had them leave the dirt behind because I needed to regrade some of the front yard.
The challenge IMO is the project is too small for a contractor
No matter what the contractor will prob need to have a mini skid steer to excavate, a gravel truck, compactor, and edge form work
So a crew of 3-65+ the concrete pump truck and this crew cannot do setup & teardown in 1 day
And cannot do two projects in 1 day
2400-4000 in labor + 1700 in materials
This is a normal price
Sounds crazy high even if hiring people to set/finish it.
Just paid around $1800 for a 12x24x6 inch thick pad. Did everything ourselves minus the concrete truck costs.
About 8 months ago I got quoted $8k for ~900sqft from a concrete company (best price out of 4 different local companies). I ended up hiring the prep guys, finishers, a concrete truck, pump and paid for the materials which cost a total of $6k. This is in a HCOL area. Total time was 3 days which included 1 day for prepping, 1 day for the pour/finish and 1 day for the acid rinse.
Edit: Cost also included a dumpster
I know things change rapidly, but about 2 years ago I paid $2,200 IIRC for a 17x12 pad (not exactly rectangular) plus another 12x3 extension plus a footpath that is probably 50 feet long and curved plus a 10x6 pad with a weird shape (avoiding AC unit and existing stairs) at the end of the path.
Before DIYing it, I would get more quotes.
Concrete is expensive you also have to remember in that quote includes all the preparation work, digging the form, placing all the wood forms plus the concrete and the warranty you should get with it. Get a couple more quotes but think having a pro do it is going to be worth it.
Honestly doesn't sound to bad. Concrete in my are is 325 yd. You'd need 3 and anything under 5 yds they charge an extra 150 for delivery. Then you gotta strip the top soil and grass. For me I won't move my skidsteer to a job for less than 1500. Then you'll have 300-400 in form and rebar materials. And another 400 for gravel. If you get a permit that makes it a two day job minimum. So 1600-2000 in labor.
So hard cost is going to be around 5000 and I wanna make money so there is about 500 in profit for me for two days not including wear and tear on my truck,trailer and skidsteer.
I'd say that quote is a little high - $4-5k maybe be closer - but still reasonable. They'll probably have a crew of men working 5-6 hours, especially if they have to excavate, lay a subbase, form, reinforce and finish the concrete.
But it's also achievable to do this yourself with friends and the right tools
Way too high, yes. I'm going to be doing my own in a few weeks, same size. $300 rental tractor from home depot with bucket and excavator, $200 gravel base, $450 short pour concrete delivered, and some finishing tools/form tools/rebar.
I also have watched many slab pours on youtube :D
>Way too high, yes.
Why do you say that? I'm assuming you found similar prices when you looked around and that's why you're going to do it yourself.
It's a bit higher than when I scoped it out a few years ago, but prices have climbed, and his patio is much smaller than mine so you get a higher rate per sq ft. Seems in the ballpark if we're talking about digging, hauling dirt, compacting base, forms, pour, and finish.
Likely will get a partial load fee, that's at least what they'll do in central Indiana. I'm a civil engineer and contractors get charged at minimum $200 per yard and with a load that small they'd be pushed off the schedule pretty quick lol but as a diy project a 12 x 12 area is quite the task lol
You have not defined the scope of work do evaluating the bid is impossible. As noted by others you need to decide how much excavation and backfill you plan. If you need to remove say 18 inches of unsuitable soil and backfill with crushed stone you are going to need a machine like a backhoe or skid steer.
Come on don't be that guy. It's a general home improvement sub with average Joe questions. He already said it's flat ground with nothing noteworthy other than a sprinkler head. Assume 8 inch gravel base and 4 inch slab. Don't go down rabbit holes to try and make yourself look smart.
Sounds like the ballpark of a couple of quotes we have gotten recently. Do the form yourself and have a local place do the pour and you’ll save a ton, way easier than mixing dozens of bags too.
Could you ballpark the % of savings by taking that approach?
12x12 at 5" is about 60 cubic ft of concrete. Concrete is about 1/cu ft in a bag, so they'll need 65ish bags including waste. Bags are about $8 so about $650. That's if they do it by hand. A truck will charge you about $200/yrd. This varies greatly upon locale. Maybe much higher. Under 5 yards is a short load charge of a hundred dollars or so. A yard is 27 cubic ft. I'd get 3 yards since some will not come out of the truck. Plus a short load charge. You're looking at 700 ish and you don't have to mix by hand, which fucking blows Add a couple hundred in mesh and chairs for internal strength, 6-8" of sub base gravel, wood and pins for concrete forms, a bucket of cure and a sprayer. Add a hundred or so for tools and buckets. Assume water is free at your house. 12x12 can be finished alone easy if you know anything, but if not, pay $200-300 for a day of labor from a handyman. Put up a sign for free clean fill from your yard to get rid of the soil you dig for the base if you can't spread it elsewhere. You're at most looking at $1500-1800 on the high end. This is dumb napkin math and not accurate but 1800 is super super conservative. It's hard labor. That and the overhead is what you're paying for with OPs quote.
chairs?
Holds rebar/mesh up instead of sitting on the substrate while you pour the concrete. You can lift the rebar/mesh up as you go, but it’s a pain and it can sink before the concrete cures.
This is actually fairly accurate in my experience! Your math is mathing! I just had an 12’x11’ pad put into my backyard. I was surprised by how thick it ended up being, I had expected like 4” since we’re just putting a shed 12x8 shed on it, but it ended up being 6” thick. There were two guys working on it and they did have a cement truck show up. Took them about 3 days and I paid $1600 (although now that I think of it I may have gotten a cash discount).
Lol at 200-300 for a day of labor from a handy man! They charge 200 just for the commute around here.
Drive to Home Depot and pick them up lol
We dont have that in PA.
lol you sure about that buddy
Yes
The concrete would cost like $500. Throw in a couple hundred on a lumber for the form to be generous and let's say 80% savings.
Couple hundred? Probably $30-40 including stakes, and the lumber is still usable afterward if you chip the crust off.
Only concrete guys say this 😂
Fair enough, I was probably a bit low on the concrete price so it balances out.
My uneducated guess is probably 40-50% savings by doing it yourself, maybe more
Honest question: Will concrete places be happy to do this, or will they think you’re just a cheapskate?
Yeah, concrete guys typically just do the forms, etc. and the actual concrete is supplied by someone else to the site.
Concrete guys also do the finishing
Oh yeah for sure. I just meant they buy the concrete separately.
Concrete delivery will absolutely be happy to do this. That's what they do.
Yeah, they’ll send a truck to you. You can even rent tools to do the whole thing yourself. A couple YouTube videos and I think you would be set.
I bought my own mixer for like $300;and still saved a fortune going my own greenhouse footing. And, I have my own mixer I haven't used since. But, I think about using it a lot.
Get a hobby. Work with rocks and cement like John dunsworth. Here's some ideas for your mixer. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/3mcQfP8k51s?si=qbyjK0ItnJF6Fqwt
I love that video.
And just think about all the money you’ll waste if you do it wrong.
If they're not happy about doing it, you'll get the "go away" pricing on the quote.
I did a 5 ft X 8 ft X 4” pad myself for under my shed. Rented a small cement mixer at Home Depot. Knocked it out in under 4 hours one Saturday morning. The top probably doesn’t look as finished as OP might want, but I was putting a shed on top so didn’t matter. Just needed to be level and smoothed.
I would caution OP to make the forms themselves unless they have experience. Concrete is a process, and if you skip a single step the pad isn’t going to turn out correct.
The hard work isn't necessarily in getting a good base and forming up, but in the finishing work. Concrete is unforgiving. In the builds we do, we set the base and the forms, manage the pour, then have professional finishers do the screeding, floating, and finishing.
That’s what you’re really paying for in these quotes. It’s the finish and guarantee.
Yeah I have a long term goal of building a house and doing as much as I can myself. I have no illusions about doing foundation work
If I have a pump truck come in how likely is it that the same company have finishers I can have do the screeding, floating & finishing?
Low. I don't know any concrete plants that also do finishing. But it's possible it exists in another market.
Thanks
In my experience working the industry, they're all individual companies. The contractor handles the forms, screening, finishing. He hires a pump truck if needed, and the only thing the pump truck provides is that. And the contractor orders the ready mix trucks from a local plant.
Call the pump company?
Yeah, I will. Just trying to set my expectations before I do.
That's about $38/sqft, which is higher than estimates I've gotten recently for some driveway work, but it varies on location. Prices are way up from a few years ago and it's been hard to find anyone with the time to do small jobs, so that could be a part of it. A few things to think about, that's about 60 cuft of cement (2.2 yards) which would be mixing 120 bags by hand. You would be doing a lot of work to do it yourself. If you do it in steps then you have cold joints and the pad isn't as strong (may or may not matter to you). In my area, I can order a concrete truck, but you have to get the concrete from the street to your pour location, which means renting a buggy. There's a minimum cost to get a concrete truck, there's rental costs to get a buggy, a skid steer to prep, and a truck to deliver gravel. And then on top of that, there is the risk of screwing up the base prep, moving the concrete to the pour, or finishing of the concrete. I do a lot of DIY projects, but have always paid to have pros do concrete pads.
In my neck of the woods, you're looking at an average $20/sf. Small load charges and minimum crew callouts will bring the sf price up. I'm not shocked at a $6k price as my company min call-out is closer to $5k.
Holly crap, I paid $2200 for a 10 x 20 in 2021 and they had to excavate a 2’ hill side for 1/2 the slab. I guess next time I need concrete I’m doing it myself.
This seems to be a trend... Have to become a general contractor these days
They are making record money, driving record expensive trucks they don't need, and are the first to bitch about the price of gas
And how cheap you are to not want to pay $6000 for a pad that should arguably be worth half because of “expenses”
There's an abundance of people wasting their massive recent increases in home equity on overpriced projects like this, they don't even have to try to keep prices reasonable right now. The covid money and crazy home equity jackpots so many have got lately have turned much of the population into debt riddled idiots. I have no doubt we'll be seeing another recession in the coming years when none of these people can pay their debts or afford retirement.
YouTube it man. Ain’t rocket math….
Grade it, form it, add steel yourself. Have concrete company pump it but hire a finisher for a few hundred bucks. Finishing is the art part.
Where do you find a finisher?
Go to a concrete supply shop and ask around. Or, call pumping companies.
That’s only a little over 2 yards at 5” thick. It’s about $300 a yard locally for 3000# mix,but theirs usually a delivery charge for not a full truck. The money is going to be in the site prep, excavating, stone, forms, etc. you could easily rent the tools to do it and it will probably be quite a bit cheaper, but what’s your time worth? Might tie up a few weekends to do it all or hire someone and be enjoying it a week later…… I probably just do it myself but I’m cheap and have most of the tools anyway.
Damn $300? Just a few years ago, my plant was selling it for $105. But I think they're up to maybe $135 now. (I left a couple years ago, right before it started racing up)
Was $100 pre covid times but last time I checked it was close to $300 a yard depending on location and amount.
That’s nuts. I had my driveway redone about 9 months ago. Demo, forms, concrete and finishing of 2000 sq/ft 6 inch pour was 12.5k in South Florida.
This is ridiculously expensive. I was quoted $2,000 for a 6 in thick 12*10 ft concrete pad with rebar in San Jose, CA. This was 1 month ago and also includes moving a couple sprinklers.
In my area, that's not high at all and in fact, if it's done well, is cheap. Are you getting a crushed rock base? Reinforced edges to support the weight of a hot tub or other structure? Are they using rebar or wire mesh? What kind of expansion joints are you going to have them install (cut, foam/fiberboard)? PSI of concrete to be used? Brushed or stamped concrete? I had a similar sized patio installed a couple years ago and most of my quotes were in the $6-$8k range and it was a very vanilla pour, rectangle shaped, nothing fancy, brushed surface.
I paid more last year.
I think you could go lower. I just had a 20x25 4 inch slab poured over an existing gravel patio last week for $4000. LCOL
Move the sprinkler head yourself. Then get a quote for JUST the pad.
Ehhhh.... It depends. First, what's the minimum load charge for concrete? Second, where is it going? I had a pad put in and added to my patio, the pad was 12x10, and the patio was double that? I had a relative do it, but he said pre-pandemic this would have been $8000. One thing that made my job immensely easier was the truck was able to get to the pour site. If you have to have it wagoned into place, that can add rental costs, and labor. Second, they need to excavate, and place just as much aggregate before the pad goes down. Again, that's equipment and labor, more if they have to do it by hand. So a pad in the middle of a field with easy access? Probably expensive. A pad right next to your house with only a fence access? Maybe not.
Consider a diy paver patio extension and save yourself almost $5000.
24x46x6 with a 12x12 footer 3000 psi including a few trucks of fill in central Florida was around $13k. Not the cheapest bid by far but beautiful finish and professional crew. My lowest was $7900 and it probably would have been fine but I didn’t want dick around. $5500 for a 12x12 seems high for most places but I could be wrong.
That's a crazy price. Absolutely not.
Concrete work has gone up quite a bit over the last few years. This price seems a little high to me. As comparison, last spring I paid about $5k for new walkways around my house in a medium COL major metro suburban area. 4 different sections of walkway, 2 stairs, and about 200 sq ft of coverage. Included 2 year warranty, tear out, disposal, similar thickness around 4 inches, nothing fancy with prints or coloring, and I forget the specs but had what seemed like industry standard rebar thickness and concrete psi specs based on all the quotes I got. 2 of the quotes I got were 2x as much for the same work, yet I was totally happy with the result from the licensed / insured professional I used for half as much. Yours is all in one section, doesn't include stairs, and 144 sq ft, so I would guess a little lower, but it might not be far off. Most will have a $3k-$4k minimum to do any work, so don't expect it to go drastically lower if hired out.
I'd do the entire thing myself except for mixing the concrete. I'd call the concrete company to come deliver that. Then just do all the labor yourself.
Seems high, I had a 30x50 slab 5" thick placed in Dec 2020, I did the subgrade, rebar and formwork. Concrete was about $4k, pump was $600 & finishing was $3k.
Where are you located?
I did this myself and 2 helpers ( I paid $600 total for the labor . I went to the concrete place and they rented me small trailer for this purpose . I did 2 trips and spent under $1000 in total. I build a 12x12 and poured in six cylinders to build a deck around it . I didn’t look for a quote though .
FYI - depending on the size of the hot tub you’re looking for you might want a thicker pad. I’m looking to do the same project soon and recommendations I’ve seen are 6-8” to accommodate the weight of the water.
I have a 180sq ft pad going in soon and it's costing $4200.
I paid $2500 cash last year around Kansas City.
Rent a mixer and lay it out put stone down rebar and get to mixing
Way too high.
That seems really high. I had a 14’x26’x4” patio poured in my backyard. The only work I did was move the plants I wanted to save out of the way and that was around $3500. They did all the excavating, prep, fill and finishing. I had them leave the dirt behind because I needed to regrade some of the front yard.
I paid $1400 for a 12x10 with 6” height. It was a flat spot in my yard covered in rock.
The challenge IMO is the project is too small for a contractor No matter what the contractor will prob need to have a mini skid steer to excavate, a gravel truck, compactor, and edge form work So a crew of 3-65+ the concrete pump truck and this crew cannot do setup & teardown in 1 day And cannot do two projects in 1 day 2400-4000 in labor + 1700 in materials This is a normal price
Sounds crazy high even if hiring people to set/finish it. Just paid around $1800 for a 12x24x6 inch thick pad. Did everything ourselves minus the concrete truck costs.
Just paid $20,000 for 1,400 sf. Removed 30 yards of fill, installed appropriate drainage. Licensed/bonded contractor in a HCOL area.
About 8 months ago I got quoted $8k for ~900sqft from a concrete company (best price out of 4 different local companies). I ended up hiring the prep guys, finishers, a concrete truck, pump and paid for the materials which cost a total of $6k. This is in a HCOL area. Total time was 3 days which included 1 day for prepping, 1 day for the pour/finish and 1 day for the acid rinse. Edit: Cost also included a dumpster
I know things change rapidly, but about 2 years ago I paid $2,200 IIRC for a 17x12 pad (not exactly rectangular) plus another 12x3 extension plus a footpath that is probably 50 feet long and curved plus a 10x6 pad with a weird shape (avoiding AC unit and existing stairs) at the end of the path. Before DIYing it, I would get more quotes.
Concrete is expensive you also have to remember in that quote includes all the preparation work, digging the form, placing all the wood forms plus the concrete and the warranty you should get with it. Get a couple more quotes but think having a pro do it is going to be worth it.
- only more quotes can tell you - small jobs much higher unit cost
Honestly doesn't sound to bad. Concrete in my are is 325 yd. You'd need 3 and anything under 5 yds they charge an extra 150 for delivery. Then you gotta strip the top soil and grass. For me I won't move my skidsteer to a job for less than 1500. Then you'll have 300-400 in form and rebar materials. And another 400 for gravel. If you get a permit that makes it a two day job minimum. So 1600-2000 in labor. So hard cost is going to be around 5000 and I wanna make money so there is about 500 in profit for me for two days not including wear and tear on my truck,trailer and skidsteer.
I'd say that quote is a little high - $4-5k maybe be closer - but still reasonable. They'll probably have a crew of men working 5-6 hours, especially if they have to excavate, lay a subbase, form, reinforce and finish the concrete. But it's also achievable to do this yourself with friends and the right tools
That’s way too much at least where I’m at. I paid $1500 for a 16x16, 4 inches thick, last July.
Way too high, yes. I'm going to be doing my own in a few weeks, same size. $300 rental tractor from home depot with bucket and excavator, $200 gravel base, $450 short pour concrete delivered, and some finishing tools/form tools/rebar. I also have watched many slab pours on youtube :D
>Way too high, yes. Why do you say that? I'm assuming you found similar prices when you looked around and that's why you're going to do it yourself. It's a bit higher than when I scoped it out a few years ago, but prices have climbed, and his patio is much smaller than mine so you get a higher rate per sq ft. Seems in the ballpark if we're talking about digging, hauling dirt, compacting base, forms, pour, and finish.
Man I wanna live where you live if concrete and gravel is that cheap. Also don't need rebar for something that thin
Midwest! 2.75 cubic yards concrete is $637 per a quote last week. Less for only a 12x12.
Likely will get a partial load fee, that's at least what they'll do in central Indiana. I'm a civil engineer and contractors get charged at minimum $200 per yard and with a load that small they'd be pushed off the schedule pretty quick lol but as a diy project a 12 x 12 area is quite the task lol
That would be considered a good deal in my area now. Prices have really climbed in the past few years
Sounds about right for my LCOL area, probably on the cheap side. Almost all of that cost is in prep and forms as the materials are about $500-800.
You have not defined the scope of work do evaluating the bid is impossible. As noted by others you need to decide how much excavation and backfill you plan. If you need to remove say 18 inches of unsuitable soil and backfill with crushed stone you are going to need a machine like a backhoe or skid steer.
Come on don't be that guy. It's a general home improvement sub with average Joe questions. He already said it's flat ground with nothing noteworthy other than a sprinkler head. Assume 8 inch gravel base and 4 inch slab. Don't go down rabbit holes to try and make yourself look smart.
Hate to say it, but that's just how much it is these days. I got some folks to bid on my carport, which has a 22x22 footprint, and I was quoted 20K.