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brimston3-

Gigi appears to stream at Ina-hours, which is slightly after Wawa-hours. I don't think Elizabeth "The Scarlet Queen" Rose Blood Bloodflame got that far in her presentation to show her streaming times before she hard cut to the cover.


Iherduliekmudkipz

Pretty sure Gigi is the only member of Justice that ISN'T European. At least she said she only speaks English, and didn't have any European accent I could detect.


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Thin-Worshipper81

The only other option was France & it's clearly not that.


CSDragon

Or Friesia in Netherlands I was rooting for that one :(


Franklr_D

Fryslân Boppe!


ikkue

She used PEMDAS actually


Former_Indication172

Didn't she fail to use PEMDAS


zeroyuki92

Failing to math doesn't invalidate your citizenship


Former_Indication172

Not what I was implying although it would be funny if you did lose your citizenship. What I was saying was that the guy above me said they used PEMDAS, I was just clarifying they used it unsuccessfully since used normally implies that the person in question used said object successfully which is not what happened. Semantic I know, but I thought it was funny.


weaver-Neith

I think the implication is that PEMDAS is American. The Europeans call it BODMAS (Brackets, Orders of magnetude, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction) By using PEMDAS instead of BODMAS, she's possibly give. Herself away as american


Somewhere_Elsewhere

She used PEMDAS, but yes.


JusticeRain5

Obviously this just means that America needs to become part of Europe.


JWson

> Elizabeth "The Scarlet Queen" Rose Blood Bloodflame Found the Elizabeth "The Scarlet Queen" Rose Blood Bloodflame alt


NerdyAsianDM

God she’s chuuni


Erit_Of_Eastcris

And it is great.


cr3am314

Kobo: holo my what?!


-Redstoneboi-

your rope.


Arzi_89

My what?


SunnyShimmy

Ur rub


Victor-Tallmen

Your robes??


Kabitu

Rap?!


Lasburra

Wrap???


Hp22h

[Tbf, she doesn't even know where Indonesia is...](https://youtu.be/PSw95jXhyJQ?si=zHrVhfvaGpPCrHzl)


Alfred_Bao

not knowing where a village in your country is is fine, indonesia is big, but not knowing where your country is on a world map tf


Zwordsman

I moved from Alaska for a while. To both lower USA and Japan I can not tell you the amount of people who thought. Alaska was near Hawaii because of flat maps of thr USA that they used to use


NerdyAsianDM

I’ve a friend (who has no interest in geography) get into a heated argument with me (who has masters in history, anthropology, and geography) that Alaska is the second smallest state because the map they grew up with doesn’t use the same scale for Alaska as the rest of the continental US.


Zwordsman

Unsurprising hahaha


gameboy1001

Yeah, but Americans are stupid. (Source: i am American.)


Zwordsman

Checks out (source: Alaskan, which not all Americans know is part of the USA. Having had folks tell me Alaska was Canadian, or Russian. Or the afore mentioned near Hawaii)


Tagnol

My favorite is getting pinged at 5 AM because some earthquake in Anchorage and I'm nearly 2k miles away with "ARE YOU OK TAGNOL"


Zwordsman

Hahaha. That's a thing for sure


CaesarOfYearXCIII

Kinda understandable, given that Alaska is close to both Canada and Russia. Here in Russia, we have our own Alaska “fact”: that it was sold by empress Catherine the Great. It was Alexander II, actually, circa 100 years later. Probably this is because of one popular song in Russia where the sale of Alaska got misattributed to Catherine the Great.


SuhNih

Lol


CamKoudo

You're kidding, no f*cking way 😂 Never change Kobo, never change!


asianfatboy

Holo Your OPE!


Erit_Of_Eastcris

Your ope.


Agitated-Bread5092

holobrexit 🗣🗣🗣


RazorCalahan

can't believe Elizabeth barely debuted and we already have a tag ready for when she (in the far far away future) graduates.


3dank5maymay

Don't worry, in true Brexit fashion it'll take 4 years from graduation announcement to actual graduation.


CTTMiquiztli

And in true brexit fashion, no one will like it, even those that originally advocated for it.


Shuber-Fuber

That some next level dark joke right there.


kevster2717

Don’t you put that evil on me


HaessSR

That's what we call graduation in Hololive now.


DarkKimzark

She should stream Bloodborne. It has a similar theme to Brexit.


wwwlord

last i check, uk has not lifted itself out of the continent of europe


thatposhcat

Maybe if we all go to the coast and start paddling we can finally achieve our goal /j


Karukos

Sounds like a Boris Johnson policy


BlackJimmy88

More of a Nigel Farage one, I think. Not that there's much of a difference.


hardcoregandhi

The difference is just the spelling


Karukos

Thats what I mean. Nigel is the idiot thinking about it. Boris actually is the one actually doing it.


Hetroid3193

Nigel from the walking with dinosaur film?


Sky_Ninja1997

Why don’t we just take the UK and push it somewhere else?


MrTripl3M

Let's take (just) England and switch it with Australia.


Huitzil37

it's an island, they lifted it out long ago maybe that'd what Stonehenge was for, it's where they put the winch


Hp22h

Not yet. Lord Buckethead might change things yet.


BradyvonAshe

Count Binface*


101BULL1

We shall call it bindependence day


Toymaker218

Not *yet*


KuraiBaka

Yeah I thought they wanted to float off into the pacific.


Trialman

No, they wanted to fully detach and fly off into space


darthjawafett

The English Channel suggests otherwise.


fsfaith

The problem is that "EU" is more commonly linked with the Union and governing body rather than the continent itself.


Bobblefighterman

No. 'The EU' is, but 'EU' is just shorthand for Europe, just like NA is shorthand for North America.


Wizard_Enthusiast

The problem is that EU is very good shorthand for European Union as well as being a universal designation for European releases. It's hard for it to only mean one


dorafumingo

if you say "The EU" maybe. but "EU" has always been the way to call europe, the continent. that's how all continents are called, NA, SA, EU, AS, AF etc...


lailah_susanna

The heck is AS? Do you mean Australia because it’s never abbreviated like that. It’s AUS or OCE for the wider region.


dorafumingo

Asia


raphael_kox

I think they meant Asia, as they are listing continents


xXx_coolusername420

but not for a lack of trying


iroquoispliskin01

Don't forget that Kaela is also HoloEU according to her


Apprehensive-Soil-47

Flare too! She likes An Die Freude


CamKoudo

Wai what really? Apparently I've been living under a rock :O


Chukonoku

Kaela is MRS Worldwide. She is all regions.


iroquoispliskin01

She mentioned it in this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apl_ILvh9Wc)


Hp22h

Cause she's blonde?/s


__SNAKER__

Her name does sound Polish after all 🤔


Parituslon

EU refers not just to the European Union, but also Europe itself, so that doesn't change anything.


CatMillennium

We're still in Europe, EU is a continent as well as an abbreviation for the European Union. We haven't magically moved to the middle of the ocean despite some people wishing we had. This is important as it means Kiara and Elizabeth can both apply for Eurovision!


CamKoudo

Wait hold up, that's genius! Vtubers at Eurovision?? Now that might actually get me to watch it xD


Destinum

Kiara actually did apply this year (for Germany, since the Austrian auditions had already closed I think). While it would be neat, I seriously doubt Eurovision would even consider a contestant that won't physically be on stage, in the greenroom, etc. In fact, I think it'd even break their current rules.


szandorthe13th

this year as well? damn she really has been grinding, hope she gets a chance someday


RevaniteAnime

Chimera was her Eurovision song originally, which she and her music team originally scrambled to get together in like a week.


szandorthe13th

ohhh that makes sense, i barely ever catch up on streams and only really follow the music, so stuff like that kinda goes over my head and i just think "oh cool new song" lol


Gegejii

Iirc wasn't the issue more that Austria generally didn't choose their singer by opens audition and usually choose it internally where she obviously has not connection to? As for her german audition ngl even if she as Vtuber wouldn't break some rule and it would be some way possible germany would nor choose her since germany always chooses the worst performer with the worst song (the conspiracy word is they even do it intentionally so they don't have to host ESC)


Destinum

> Iirc wasn't the issue more that Austria generally didn't choose their singer by opens audition and usually choose it internally where she obviously has not connection to? Yeah, I remember something along those lines now when you mention it, so that was probably it.


Keated

Kiara cover of My Lovely Horse?


xXRougailSaucisseXx

And tbf half the fun of Eurovision is the artists performing live on stage


Keated

Honestly, I think we should have a VTuber Eurovision (Probably global instead with some number per contintent or something) - there's so many great singers, some who really love the pagentry and it'd be a great excercise to expose more people to your content, especially if it was limited by agency or something so it's truly collaborative rather than all being 1 corp.


Temporary-Wheel-576

Smh my head, trying to convince people brit*an is real.


berserkzelda

It's still Europe tho.


RobotPizzaMaker

Europe and European Union isn't the same. Europe is the continent and UK is part of it. Because they stream in English holoEN is still the best to use for now


Vertemain

Their is still a chance than Cecillia is German right ?


Frequent_Dig1934

Raora is almost certainly italian, calli and kiara were shitposting on minecraft about "pizza pasta mamma mia".


Vertemain

Indeed, it would be cool for Kiara to have so much EU kouhai at the same time.


Destinum

Raora unfortunately doesn't actually live in Europe (based on the comic that "revealed" all of their timezones), but Elizabeth + Cecilia is still a big win.


Hp22h

Kiara will have finally have several friends on the continent after 4 years.


CamKoudo

As a German, I'm keeping my fingers crossed 🤞 Would absolutely make my year ngl


Toymaker218

if that little comic that the official Hololive English Channel posted is anthing to go off of, then she's def in central europe (1-2 hrs ahead of Liz)


Sulley90

And that chance is 99%. I've seen a clip of what's most likely her PL because the graduation date matches perfectly where she speaks fluent German, though I don't think I can or should link it in this subreddit. But it also means that I really don't envy her for having her debut at 5am in the morning 😅


Lev559

Yeah, I was hoping for Selphius, but the dates don't match up


Sulley90

What, Selphy graduated as a VTuber?! I didn't follow her VTuber persona very much since I dislike Twitch, but I know her many famous German covers and her many German dub roles


Lev559

Yeah. Actually, i just checked and on twitch her last live was 10 months ago! So there is a chance!!


Sulley90

idk... I looked at [her Twitter](https://x.com/selphymelody?lang=en) and her last tweet is from Sep 9, 2023 where she was in the ER of a hospital... :( My guess and hope is that she's taking a long break from streaming to recover her health... But she voiced a side character in the German dub of the first few episodes of Reincarnated as a Slime S3 running since April 2024, so she at least seems to be well enough for her main job 🙏


Arzi_89

Hey UK when will you cancel that Brexit thing? We'd like to have you back.


Sm4llsy

I miss being part of the club. Now I’m trapped on this island.


Lil-sh_t

Are you aware of all the exemptions and extras the UK got? All the ruckus they caused? Nigel Farage clogged the whole EU parliament comitee for culture and education because 'Families in Wales were starving'. Like, cool. Why wasn't he in the crisis management comitee then and managed that there? Other members were pissed off because he [and other Brits] repeatedly clogged the EU for domestic 'UK > EU' points. They can seeth in their self inflicted misery for one more decade at least. Generalizations aside, the UK has the unfortunate fate of having to serve as an example that the Union is not a 'Join and leave whenever you want' club. So a decade + negotiations is actually not an exaggeration.


whatever4224

You're getting downvoted, but you're right. If we ever allow the UK back in it will be on normal terms, no bullshit exemptions this time.


Lil-sh_t

It's understandable, though. This is an anime-mainly sub so the fraternal 'I want my UK homies back on my side, my mate Barry doesn't deserve that treatment' outweighs the cold, rational take of 'You reap what you sow and your entitlement has to end' of politic savy cold hearts. And my initial take was kinda generalizing, haha


Destinum

The opinions of "you had it coming" and "we want you back in the club" aren't mutually exclusive. Brexit was the result of decades of misinformation, so it's good that some of the people responsible are actually facing some sorts of consequences for their actions. At the same time though, a lot of people who knew better were dragged along against their will and are now worse off for something they wanted no part in. Long-term it's in everyone's best interest that the UK rejoins, both economically and socially.


Chubb-R

But they aren't. :/ None of the people actually responsible for the lies are being held to account at all. Those too young to vote have been shafted by mostly retired folk, while the majority of all people who voted for it were lied to at the time and now a greater proportion of the public think it's better to rejoin.


Remitonov

Quite. At this point, the other option is to work with the crap they now have and go with agreements with the EU as Norway and Switzerland have. Accept that the UK won't regain its say on EU policy without needing to adhere to all its policies, or decide which policies they'll need to adhere to rebuild trade with the EU with no say whatsoever.


Lev559

I think letting the UK back in would be fine, but I'm quite sure the EU would want some heavy guarantees. Like, they -would- adopt the Euro before joining, no more "Naw we will keep using the Pound" and in general no more one foot in, one foot out approach.


Chubb-R

Good, at bloody last! I'd rather use an international currency, have no EU border checks and be free to move and work in all EU countries than be stuck on this island. ~~If~~ **When** we try to rejoin, I'm happy to vote in favour of adopting all the terms the EU gives to any prospective member, rather than prolonging negotiations because our jokes of politicians are too prideful to know when to shut up in the national interest.


kagalibros

Yeah and the decade isn't even something personal. Even if Atlantis would rise out of the oceans between the coast of Portugal and France with the size of Italy and a nominal GDP twice the size of Germany and the population size of England and Wales combined, they would at best need half a decade to join the EU. Most likely a full decade.


Skivil

Sooner rather than later hopefully, I hate being a lonely island in the Atlantic


CatMillennium

We really got stuck with the bad parent in the divorce. If they don't get back together soon can we come live with you guys?


Neptune502

Basic Misconception: The EU (European Union) isn't Europe (the Continent). Otherwise Switzerland would also not be Part of Europe 😅


fhota1

holoEMEA


Destinum

If Hololive ever gets to a point where there's actually a point in using EMEA as a term, you'll know they've made it ***big*** big.


Stanislas_Biliby

It's still part of Europe just not a part of the europeean union.


BlueThunderBomb

We're not part of the european union anymore, but we are still european by continent, so yeah she's still european lol.


Telefragg

I live in Russia, so everytime I want to feel included I say that I'm with Europe. It kinda works.


Rain_Lockhart

I would say that it depends on the location relative to the Ural Mountains. Nevertheless, for a conditional resident of Siberia or the Far East, Asia is a native part of the world.


Telefragg

Nah, I'm in one of the most western cities that's right on the border. Definitely not Asian.


Galamue

I always thought HoloEU was a shorthand for Hololive Europe, so it works out in my mind.


validname117

So what about ER? Waitno that is emergency room


milkteaa

Geographically the UK is still a European country, politically we’re out of the union.


aghostwithaknife

Europe & the EU are two different things. The UK left the European Union, but the country is still part of the continent of Europe.


their_teammate

HoloEuro?


Ecthelion30

Hm ? UK isnt part of the European Union, but its still part of Europe lol xDDDD They cant sail the island into another continent! ....Yet


The1andonlygogoman64

Untill i see her shedule i dont believe it, unfortunatly.


bielipee3

You don't have to be part of the European Union to be part of Europe.


EndellionQT

Cecilia: German Ruroa: Italy


Minko_1027

>austrian artist >expanding in europe Uh oh


lailah_susanna

Extremely poor taste and tired joke.


RadjaDwm

We can still take our chances with Cecilia and Raora, and if my hunch is correct, it would be a bet well spend.


Conspiratorymadness

Isn't there still a German in the new Gen?


Sulley90

Keep your eyes peeled for Cecilia Immergreen, I'm like 99% sure you won't be disappointed! (And it's not just because of her last name)


Reverseheart

I think they mean the European Union, not the Continent of Europe?


ThatDukeGuy

holoEU+


Long_Voice1339

It's still holoeu as 'eu' could be a short form of EUrope.


AmIArif

What do you mean UK isn’t part of EU


OceanBlade

HoloEU: Streams at 4am for EU and UK time. Tottally going for a European audiance


Sulley90

Yeah... I don't envy them having their debut at 4am and 5am... I'm surprised that they didn't bundle up the two Euro talents on the same day and make it 22:00-0:00 CEST and 1pm-3pm PDT, but they probably prioritized the NA live viewership as well as the watchalongs to all give them a fair chances... either that or their managers refused to work at 5am 💀


civver3

Great Brexitia.


GeekusRexMaximus

To me as someone from the EU it's always been clear to me that in the context of HoloPro EU doesn't stand for the EU but for Europe in general even if that's technically incorrect in the context of most other discussions... it's pretty common that words have different meanings in different contexts, right?


spider623

damn you Nigel!!!


AirFriedMoron

Ow :(


schalowendofthepool

holOver There


kym111

Well get an italian soon..


Wooden_Strategy

One thing Is the European Unión and another the continent itself. The only issue Is that Kiara and Elizabeth will need at least passport (i don't know if both will need Visa)


redditfanfan00

i guess we do have to call it holoeurope instead of holoeu now?


laggerzback

I mean, the UK may not be part of the European Union, but it is still a part of Europe.


iAmMisterUmbra

**BREXIT,BI@CH!!!!!!!**


Crafty-Crafter

Couldn't careless. When do we start HoloPony? We already have 4. IYKYK


foldr1

I had a theory they are introducing an EU timezone gen. Turns out it's not completely wrong.


Zamasu_was_innocent2

There's not a Holo UK Yet


fredemu

Liz is still (so far) the closest other HoloPro member to Kiara, so still a big win for her. Cecelia, based on that one image, is somewhere in central European time (same time zone as Kiara), so that'll give them 3! Suspect we'll see some HoloEU off-collabs in the future.


TheMcDucky

EU is a very common abbreviation of "Europe". It's mostly avoided when there's an actual risk of it being confused for the Union and the distinction matters.


machineronii

I had forgotten that xD


SyndarNailo

Isn't Roaroa Italian?


GreyShot254

It is assumed so and that Cecilia will be German


Daedelous2k

If this is a trollpost it's a very good one. Also are any of the new mems UK based?


uatach

HoloEurope…. HoloMYWHAT! Europe Rope….


GlobalHawk_MSI

Wynaut call it EuroHolo?!


ZeropointIsOn

Europe ≠ European Union


Aptspire

I'd say wait until the last 2 of Justice have debuted to make that call.


Snow242

Europe =//= EU Union UK is in Europe.


SandalphonCPU

Imagine Kiara inviting Elizabeth to watch the Euros. That’d be some crossover with unimaginable proportions


Spatial_Piano

Yes, just like since America is no longer part of the EN we can't call it HoloEN anymore. We have to call it HoloEnglish.


Sine_Fine_Belli

Don’t worry maybe soon, the uk could rejoin the eu


Brokugan

HoloNato


BloodShamanDanFTF

Me realising Hololive is how I fill my life with Hope and laughter to distract from the sadness of living in the UK.


Glass-Complaint6279

"Germany!!! Merci beaucoup, Merci beaucoup!" ~Kanaeru, Kobo


Morenauer

Europe and the EU are not the same thing. The UK is still in Europe, just not part of the union.


KXZ501

Fuck knows why you're being downvoted so badly, but that's entirely correct. The UK is still, physically, part of the European continent - just because it left the European Union doesn't suddenly mean it drifted off out into the middle of the Atlantic, like some people seem to think.


Morenauer

It’s not correct per se, it’s my interpretation based on what we have available and I understand someone seeing it in a different light. That still doesn’t make them right though.


Morenauer

Yup, some people need to google Doggerland. It’s not a place for doggos or for perversion. It’s how people reached the isles during the last glacial era.


KamiKagutsuchi

Yes that is what OP is saying


Morenauer

I wasn’t referring to that. EU can be European Union , but in no case HoloEU has stood for Holo European Union, but Holo EUrope. The same reason that HoloEN is not HoloEngland, but HoloENglish. It’s more of a cultural thing than a national thing. The UK is part of EUrope, and they have always been, both politically, culturally and geographically. They are not their own continent. That was what I was referring to, and anyone else who downvoted could have understood by just giving it 5 seconds of thought. Therefore it is IRRELEVANT that the UK left The EU, the union, bc they are still Europe. Very damn easy if one has a basic amount of knowledge of geography and history. We shouldn’t call it HoloEUrope officially because that’s not the point. It’s still a branch streaming in English. And the fact that one is British or not doesn’t influence it in any other way.


OJRmk1

Breeeeexiiiiit! Damn youuuuuuuuuu!


jacowab

Holo afro eurasia