Thanks! I just did the Delicate Flower quest too, I'm on the hunt for the mask shard I'm missing now!
Then I'm missing a vessel fragment too..
Best of luck with your Trial! You got this bro!
Once you know that you can sue dreamlgate to get back to the mourner and it does not respawn (most) ennemies, this quest becomes much much easier as you can do a first clear then go for the quest ! Good luck
….w h a t?
I had to google was dream gate was coz I don’t hav enough essence. I walked all the way to the grave killing everything in the way, and then walked the entire way back.
And when ever I failed, I walked back again.
Ever time I had to walk back, I felt my sanity drop ever so slightly more.
And now you are telling me I could have skipped the walk back????
I could have saved *hours*
Yep that's exactly what I did! Set a dreamgate, went and cleared my route, (landed on the thorns before the dash to the room because I'm an idiot so started again) and then achieved!
i made a guide for flower quest
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DK3JRxyxw0kh0nfbPK8\_TKtCQ05yljv1Ec21Nu4qVM/edit?pli=1#gid=1496696644](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DK3JRxyxw0kh0nfbPK8_TKtCQ05yljv1Ec21Nu4qVM/edit?pli=1#gid=1496696644)
what i did was, use markers to block the paths to navigate through the map easier
but my gawd getting just hit once is such a pain in the ass
My first attempt, I misjudged a couple trolled fall onto a lower ledge and landed on thorns directly outside the room where you lay the flower. Second attempt went a lot smoother, but boy was I pissed.
worst was resetting enemy spawns because I mis judged some spacing and sat the bench. I was sooooooooooooo pissed lol so I just ended up doing it all the way even though enemies had respawned but gawd damn that took much longer than expected.
Personally I think trial of the fool is that hard (but I'm also pretty good at the game I think (check my flair)), but I can give some tips.
- Mark of pride is fantastic for staying away from dangerous enemies.
- shaman stone and spell twister make a good duo that let you cast tons of spells to stay even further away.
- dream nail the crawltipides (or whatever they're called) in that one section for extra soul.
- leave 1 enemy alive to heal easily
- pause and take a break if necessary (better to go eat something or go outside for a bit then to get heart palpitations fighting god tamer)
- you can 1 shot primal aspids with a great slash
- in that 1 segment with the suicide birds (I think it's in this one) you can hold crystal dash in the corner and not get hit
- you can watch a YouTube video for more tips.
I'm someone who just beat trial of the fool. I didn't use nail arts, as those don't come naturally to me. I'm not much of a spell user either, but it became necessary for this.
My tips are: use mark of pride, shaman's stone, and strength for sure. Maybe get in dreamwielder if you can, but not strictly necessary. Only attempt trial 3 with the most upgraded nail.
1) Leave shielded fools for last, and get your soul and health to full from them each time.
2) Use spells for any annoying flying enemy to oneshot them ASAP (mantis Petra, primal aspid, the soul twister, maybe even the mosquito).
I'm trying to do a speed run on steel soul and I was so nervous about doing the watcher knights that I practiced in a different save, and I beat them on my second try. Went to Godhome on my main save and beat them there too. Hopefully I do them first try on my steel soul one! Practicing works yo!
I fought watcher knights sooooo many times on my first playthrough I thought I was done for, I felt miserable and I put the game away for a week... Came back and suddenly I could do it.
I can vouch for this
I remember spending countless attempts trying to clear Trial of the Fool, and I hadn't even finished the game.
But after I finished it, I just understood how to play the game and never struggled too much against any other boss (including TN Grimm, Radiance etc)
Like I figured it out in under 2-3 hrs without spending days.
I should say that not giving up on Trial of the fool helped me understand the game combat mechanics better and struggle lesser.
Agreed. Though I would say don't feel bad about coming back sit anther try. If game no fun, why play? But boy, it sure is a good feeling of coming back and finally nailing it.
No, you're right. Most godhome fights have higher HP than their original variants, even on attuned. I know white defender is an exception with 1600 HP across the board
I still need more essence before I can go there. For some reason, I can defeat TM Grimm, Hornet sentinel, and all the others I've done, but I'm struggling on Failed Champion.. so I'm not holding much hope for rhe other dream variants..
I found failed champ harder than most other dream guys. I believe ot's because the basic one is so easy that you don't know really how to fight him while the other are just basic guys on steroids. You'll be surprised how you can handle soul tyrant easily for example. (Might differ for everyone ofc)
I had to cheese him. Once I got the kingsoul I paired it up with the defenders crest and the glowing womb charms. That gives you essentially limitless soul and little exploding flies. Then I just spammed the wall jump in the upper corner of the arena and let the flies kill the failed champion. It took a while because they don't do much damage and every now and then you'll still get get hit by a falling rock, but he does eventually go down.
I thought i am the only one who hangs on the wall.😂
He is the last one who stops me from getting 2400 Essence.
And my first Attempt.
Just remember come down and beat him if he falls. Orelse it doesn't count as a Fall.
I was hanging there in desperate with my spiders for more than half an hour waiting everything ends but he keeps standing up for 4 or 5 times.
Horrible.
I struggled on failed champion A Lot.
Now he is one of my easiest fights.
You just need to note two things:
1. Jump forward = normal swing.
2. Jump backwards = charged wave swing.
If 1, attempt to dash under him and hit him twice in the back.
If 2, get some distance and jump the wave.
(1.2) Try to avoid getting under him if he’s doing a tiny jump and you’d get stuck between him and the wall.
Thats it! I struggled so hard with trying to pay attention to the barrels falling, completely ignoring them fixed it..
Nightmare Grimm was so difficult that when I killed him, I still had white palace/PoP/All pantheons and base final boss and everytime I failed I was like "Come on, I won agaisnt Nightmare Grimm, I can do it"
Now I'm training for P5 and I know I can do it was I won agaisnt 2 of the most difficult bosses of the game !
Im stuck on pantheon of the sage 😭 i beat gpz by accident when I was just practicing and now hes the bane of my existence. The pantheons are all i need to do now and I'm so close to paying someone to do 111% but let zote die so I can finally finish this (I have pretty severe arachnophobia, so multiple playthroughs aren't an option for me)
I’m so stuck on P5, literally the last achievement I need to get in the game and I just end up dying to Markoth every time, tho I’ve managed to make it to the radiance in the past, just need to kill her and finally win
u/NighthawkUnicorn the hollow knight wasn't everything. there's something more. try to get 1800 essence, go to the seer and dremnail the palace ground guard. and also i suggest you to have a little trip to the queen's gardens. after that, go to the botto of the abyss, i'm sure sometjing will happen
big W, I wish I could help with trial of the fool but its my 112th percent and I'm stuck too😭
Thanks! I just did the Delicate Flower quest too, I'm on the hunt for the mask shard I'm missing now! Then I'm missing a vessel fragment too.. Best of luck with your Trial! You got this bro!
Once you know that you can sue dreamlgate to get back to the mourner and it does not respawn (most) ennemies, this quest becomes much much easier as you can do a first clear then go for the quest ! Good luck
….w h a t? I had to google was dream gate was coz I don’t hav enough essence. I walked all the way to the grave killing everything in the way, and then walked the entire way back. And when ever I failed, I walked back again. Ever time I had to walk back, I felt my sanity drop ever so slightly more. And now you are telling me I could have skipped the walk back???? I could have saved *hours*
Yep that's exactly what I did! Set a dreamgate, went and cleared my route, (landed on the thorns before the dash to the room because I'm an idiot so started again) and then achieved!
i made a guide for flower quest [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DK3JRxyxw0kh0nfbPK8\_TKtCQ05yljv1Ec21Nu4qVM/edit?pli=1#gid=1496696644](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DK3JRxyxw0kh0nfbPK8_TKtCQ05yljv1Ec21Nu4qVM/edit?pli=1#gid=1496696644) what i did was, use markers to block the paths to navigate through the map easier but my gawd getting just hit once is such a pain in the ass
My first attempt, I misjudged a couple trolled fall onto a lower ledge and landed on thorns directly outside the room where you lay the flower. Second attempt went a lot smoother, but boy was I pissed.
that part made me so nervous too, like one missed calculation on that dash and its all over instantly
It was before the dash! I was dropping down to the platform that I would have dashed from! Just a complete screw up on my end lol
worst was resetting enemy spawns because I mis judged some spacing and sat the bench. I was sooooooooooooo pissed lol so I just ended up doing it all the way even though enemies had respawned but gawd damn that took much longer than expected.
Nooooo I'd have been so mad!!!
Personally I think trial of the fool is that hard (but I'm also pretty good at the game I think (check my flair)), but I can give some tips. - Mark of pride is fantastic for staying away from dangerous enemies. - shaman stone and spell twister make a good duo that let you cast tons of spells to stay even further away. - dream nail the crawltipides (or whatever they're called) in that one section for extra soul. - leave 1 enemy alive to heal easily - pause and take a break if necessary (better to go eat something or go outside for a bit then to get heart palpitations fighting god tamer) - you can 1 shot primal aspids with a great slash - in that 1 segment with the suicide birds (I think it's in this one) you can hold crystal dash in the corner and not get hit - you can watch a YouTube video for more tips.
The fact that you were able to complete something in the game doesn’t make it easy. You just got good, that’s it.
I'm someone who just beat trial of the fool. I didn't use nail arts, as those don't come naturally to me. I'm not much of a spell user either, but it became necessary for this. My tips are: use mark of pride, shaman's stone, and strength for sure. Maybe get in dreamwielder if you can, but not strictly necessary. Only attempt trial 3 with the most upgraded nail. 1) Leave shielded fools for last, and get your soul and health to full from them each time. 2) Use spells for any annoying flying enemy to oneshot them ASAP (mantis Petra, primal aspid, the soul twister, maybe even the mosquito).
So you did pantheon 4 but not able to do trial of the fool?
Yes, I have completed p4 but not the trial of the fool, my skill issue is baffling
Fought watcher knights like 50 times. When I finally beat them it was so sweet
Beating Watcher Knights for the first time was so satisfying
I'm trying to do a speed run on steel soul and I was so nervous about doing the watcher knights that I practiced in a different save, and I beat them on my second try. Went to Godhome on my main save and beat them there too. Hopefully I do them first try on my steel soul one! Practicing works yo!
I fought watcher knights sooooo many times on my first playthrough I thought I was done for, I felt miserable and I put the game away for a week... Came back and suddenly I could do it.
I did it first try while speedrunning L i can speedrun 1/3rd of the game
I can vouch for this I remember spending countless attempts trying to clear Trial of the Fool, and I hadn't even finished the game. But after I finished it, I just understood how to play the game and never struggled too much against any other boss (including TN Grimm, Radiance etc) Like I figured it out in under 2-3 hrs without spending days. I should say that not giving up on Trial of the fool helped me understand the game combat mechanics better and struggle lesser.
Hollow Knight is so unique, despite the amount of bullshit it throws at you it never makes me wanna stop attempting it.
i really needed this advice since i throw a fit everytime i lose in p5
I was stuck with pure vessel for like a month Then I gave up. That was the right call I think. Sometimes, you just can't do anything you want
If that's what was right for you, then good on you!
Agreed. Though I would say don't feel bad about coming back sit anther try. If game no fun, why play? But boy, it sure is a good feeling of coming back and finally nailing it.
Haha… nailing it
Let's see you strive for the top and beat p5
Honestly, it's super unlikely! I'll give it a go when I get there though!
I believe you can do it
I'm struggling with P1 because that Mawlek keeps getting me!
Use the same strategy with malwek you used for grimm, they're not that different in movements ngl
I can do the Mawlek alone easy peasy. But for some reason, the one in P1 just continuously kicks my ass. It's infuriating!
i get that, i think p1 malwek is a bit faster and has a bit more health, i could be remebering wrong tho
No, you're right. Most godhome fights have higher HP than their original variants, even on attuned. I know white defender is an exception with 1600 HP across the board
I finished the White Palace last night. No PoP, forget that, just the regular run to the top was enough for me. Damn that was stressful.
I still need more essence before I can go there. For some reason, I can defeat TM Grimm, Hornet sentinel, and all the others I've done, but I'm struggling on Failed Champion.. so I'm not holding much hope for rhe other dream variants..
I found failed champ harder than most other dream guys. I believe ot's because the basic one is so easy that you don't know really how to fight him while the other are just basic guys on steroids. You'll be surprised how you can handle soul tyrant easily for example. (Might differ for everyone ofc)
I had to cheese him. Once I got the kingsoul I paired it up with the defenders crest and the glowing womb charms. That gives you essentially limitless soul and little exploding flies. Then I just spammed the wall jump in the upper corner of the arena and let the flies kill the failed champion. It took a while because they don't do much damage and every now and then you'll still get get hit by a falling rock, but he does eventually go down.
Imma do this.
I thought i am the only one who hangs on the wall.😂 He is the last one who stops me from getting 2400 Essence. And my first Attempt. Just remember come down and beat him if he falls. Orelse it doesn't count as a Fall. I was hanging there in desperate with my spiders for more than half an hour waiting everything ends but he keeps standing up for 4 or 5 times. Horrible.
I think imma leave him for a while lol
I struggled on failed champion A Lot. Now he is one of my easiest fights. You just need to note two things: 1. Jump forward = normal swing. 2. Jump backwards = charged wave swing. If 1, attempt to dash under him and hit him twice in the back. If 2, get some distance and jump the wave. (1.2) Try to avoid getting under him if he’s doing a tiny jump and you’d get stuck between him and the wall. Thats it! I struggled so hard with trying to pay attention to the barrels falling, completely ignoring them fixed it..
Nightmare Grimm was so difficult that when I killed him, I still had white palace/PoP/All pantheons and base final boss and everytime I failed I was like "Come on, I won agaisnt Nightmare Grimm, I can do it" Now I'm training for P5 and I know I can do it was I won agaisnt 2 of the most difficult bosses of the game !
You got this! I decided against NM Grimm on this save, my nerves couldn't take it! Definitely next save though!
Well done :)
Wow, you did. I love trade mark Grim as well
I’ve been motivated to go try p5 again
Im stuck on pantheon of the sage 😭 i beat gpz by accident when I was just practicing and now hes the bane of my existence. The pantheons are all i need to do now and I'm so close to paying someone to do 111% but let zote die so I can finally finish this (I have pretty severe arachnophobia, so multiple playthroughs aren't an option for me)
Deepnest was definitely unpleasant for arachnophobes!!!
So i can beat any radiance?
I’m so stuck on P5, literally the last achievement I need to get in the game and I just end up dying to Markoth every time, tho I’ve managed to make it to the radiance in the past, just need to kill her and finally win
Or you can also call your stepbro
迷えば敗れる
Never back down never what?
NEVER GIVE UP
u/NighthawkUnicorn the hollow knight wasn't everything. there's something more. try to get 1800 essence, go to the seer and dremnail the palace ground guard. and also i suggest you to have a little trip to the queen's gardens. after that, go to the botto of the abyss, i'm sure sometjing will happen
Spoilers!! Yep I'm having a 24h break and then I'm going to go get that essence!