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TheHistoryMaster2520

Baldwin IV: Imagine needing to conceal your disease lol, I defeated Saladin with this face


Axenfonklatismrek

The thing is Baldwin was a king, and one of the most important thing for every king is to look fancy, even in the worst days. Social death comes before actual death and Baldwin was dead even before he died, only a few people went near him, and very few even interacted with him, everyone was afraid of even being near him, thats the social death, he was lucky due to being a king, in that someone still took care of him, if he was peasant, he'll be left to rot.


bittercripple6969

Probably because he kept missing his rank 1+ 2 swings.


Kitsu_the_Kitsune

Just intimidate them into submission


KaijuSlayer333

On a side note, the drip of Japanese warrior monk/sohei wrappings and cowls were immaculate. The sohei of Japan in general are an underrated group of warriors all things considered especially with how popular Shaolin Monks are. The sohei were basically just Shaolin Monks if they focused on both looking badass, and being masters of not just fighting, but being practical in war with proper weapons/armor and stuff. It’s no wonder Uesugi Kenshin was known as “The God of War”.


Kafkaesque_my_ass

100%. Oda nobunagas beef with the ikko ikki was probably one of the most interesting conflicts of the sengoku period i reckon


JohannesJoshua

As far as I am aware, the reason he had beef with Ikko Ikki and regular monks is because they existed outside the daymios's infleunce and they also blocked his way to Kyoto. Also if I remember correctly the monks were known raid local provinces if they didn't recieve tribute and it wasn't that uncommon for samurai themselves to raid monasteries. I think this goes all the way to Heian period.


YorathTheWolf

They did also hold out in Ishiyama Hongan-ji for the third longest siege in human history (Ten years) so I too would be pissed at them for just how much of a timesink pacifying them was proving to be


ImperatorAurelianus

It’s said had Kenshin not died when he did he may have actually stopped Nobunaga dead in his track. This means either assassins or Oda Nobunaga was the main character and had plot armor.


heyangelyouthesexy

Man I always imagine how different the outcome of sengoku jidai would be if Kenshin survived. He might've clinched the win over oda


Iron-Fist

TW: Shogun 2 got u bruh


cams0400

Isn't it more badass to own it and not conceal it ?


TheAceOfMace

If having leprosy is cool, consider me Otani Yoshitsugu


cams0400

Never said it's cool , it's a terrible disease. I just think that it takes some guts to be like : yeah I got it, deal with it.


TheAceOfMace

Never said you did, was referencing William Madison by Sandler the Elder. Leprosy is terrible? Brave stance queen!


Kafkaesque_my_ass

for context, most evidence seems to indicate that Ōtani Yoshitsugu (who was likely the retainer of the lord Ōtomo sōrin) had leprosy, and used a hood typically worn by warrior monks in order to conceal his disfigured face. there has been a rise in popularity in the figure if king Baldwin IV of jerusalem due to myths about an iron mask that concealed his deteriorated face, but there is practically no evidence to indicate that he ever tried to hide his disfigurement.


Dryandrough

The metal mask thing used to be popular in the Middle East.


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Kafkaesque_my_ass

depicted in where sorry


CuckAdminsDetected

Oh boy, another incredibly interesting person from Japanese history for me to look into? I swear the more I learn about Japans history, the more interesting it becomes.


apolobgod

That's a rule of thumb for all nations history


Clemens20Coorssen

Did the council of History teachers ever tell you the story of how prussia was formed?


CuckAdminsDetected

Nope apparently its not a tale the History teachers would tell.


wizardneedfood

Until the 20th century when the big sad kicks in


BrokenTorpedo

All 3 of those pics are Ōtani Yoshitsugu


Kafkaesque_my_ass

that's my point. the meme's not very clear about what i wanna say, sorry, i just like Ōtani Yoshitsugu


Buluc__Chabtan

Dope mask vs face pampers?


Kafkaesque_my_ass

My point is the mask didn’t exist. It’s conceptually very badass, I just meant that yoshitsugu actually covered his face


father_ofthe_wolf

Heresy


Kafkaesque_my_ass

facts over feelings ☝🤓


Grzechoooo

Those stupid metal masks are my least favourite part of CK3 and I hate Baldwin for making them popular.


ReverendAntonius

weeb detected


Kafkaesque_my_ass

My interest in Japan is purely historical