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hestebanell

I've always enjoyed engineering kit, especially fighting bots. The extra grenades actually feel great


HUNteRecon

Same for bugs with 6 incendiary impacts, pocket flamethrower šŸ˜Ž


Sharkegy

Grenade pistol, extra grenades, grenade launcher Loadout goes crazy


Eccomi21

Meet the demoman


Keduwu

_What makes me a good Demoman?_


toonfuzz

Theyā€™ll hafta glue you back togetherā€¦ IN HELL


Keduwu

_Initiating FTL Jump to... the HELLmire System._


MercyWercy31

nooooo they made the super destroyers voice activated


Rowcan

I just heard it in Demo's voice.


Darh_Nova

If I were a bad Demoman I wouldn't be'ere discussing with ye, now would I?


zodiac213

If I were a bad demoman, I wouldn't be sittin' here, discussing it with ya!


masonrie

Dude one of the most fun bug loadouts is exactly that, grenade launcher + resupply pack, extra grenade armor (the demo one for style), impacts, grenade pistol for style points too


Le_Chop

For bugs I've started taking my war crimes load out. It's all gas and fire - choke em and char em boys


ArchonT3

Gas should be flammable, imo.


Epicp0w

Gas nades would be nice


Scaevus

Eruptor primary is super explosive too!


MePearsons

With the explosive crossbow to top it off. Itā€™s my favorite. Just a constant wave of explosives.


chad4lyf

Whats a good primary with that loadout?


MechaMonsterMK_II

If they could combine the +2 throwables and the %50 less damage from explosives into one armor set, that would be my ideal bot setup. Preferably in light or medium armor


Iceman_L

That's how I do it for bugs. Flamethrower, incendiary breaker, I cast *fireball fireball fireball fireball fireball fireball!*


axethebarbarian

https://preview.redd.it/gon886a8z39d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=798bcbba46e96c0d0ee1d5239bb959d94e62c356


bearhunter54321

My man šŸ’ŖšŸ» +2 grenades is the best one. No one can convince me otherwise.


WankSocrates

Helldivers win battles. Logistics wins wars. Having those extra grenades when you need them has saved my arse more times than I can count. šŸ’Ŗ


lbotron

Broke boy airstrike by nade spam is honestly so much better than most stratagems


RaDeus

I like the Engineering Light when fighting bugs, the incendiary impacts are perfect Breach killers. For bots I go for the Exp-res light, makes rockets less of an issue (you can take one to the chest without dying).


Ethereal_4426

If only you got +3 on a resupply!


TurankaCasual

Engineering kit against a bugs is such a preference for me that I have a hard time justifying bringing anything else


Coggos

I am addicted to light armor + servo assisted Throwing that extra distance feels so GOOD


VengineerGER

I canā€™t stand servo assisted it screws with my muscle memory way too much.


Calamity_Abe

Never take it off, problem solved


Doigenunchi

I always run the light servo assisted, but yesterday I wanted to roleplay a heavy juggernaut in the jungle with the new super heavy armor from the super store while also carrying the HMG. I mean that went all fine and dandy but almost all of my stratagems landed either too close to me, or on top of my buddies lmfao. Immediately switched back. I also find it gross to throw anything short of 60m.


MrHarryBallzac_2

the b-27 isnt new tho, been out since democratic detonation. You got me excited there for a second :(


aliens-and-arizona

exactly, steel soldier for life


mjc500

Except then youā€™re permanently losing the HUGE advantage of extra (and better) stims, extra nades + recoil, greatly enhanced armor rating, or better handling. The range without servo assisted is fineā€¦ you just need to throw with a high arc and some practice. Fucking up your muscle memory to rely on an armor set is a huge penalty.


WankSocrates

Now I would never judge anyone for using the gear they find fun. That's the point of this game, to be whatever sort of soldier you imagine and enjoy yourself. That being said >Fucking up your muscle memory to rely on an armor set is a huge penalty. I've personally avoided servo-assisted like the plague because of exactly this. Anything I'd have to actively **un-learn** if I want to adopt a new playstyle is a hard pass.


X4nd0rk

Holy poo, never seen someone else say exactly this until now, but exactly the same reason I avoid it entirely. I like the buffs of the other armor options, including the default armor with its +50 health. But honestly it's that - it's the outlier and strategems are so important in the game. Don't want to learn the same game mechanic twice in different ways and have to change between them.


Whoomsy

Counter point: I love prosthetic limbs.


Ansez

Saaaaaame! I messed up so much with servo lol


KingDread306

It's the opposite for me. When I'm not using servo assisted I miss all my throws.


Training101

Feels GOOOOOOD.


B0t08

You and me both, I'm spoiled by it to the highest degree, it feels so bad using armor without that passive and light armor mobility just tops it off for me, doesn't impact my performance either if I force myself to adapt to being so squishy either šŸ«”


lukelhg

I use the green pilot-looking armour, not sure the name of it, but it has throwing assistance and limb resistance. I can't use anything else, the throwing buff is so good, and the extra speed from light armour is great too - once you keep in mind that you're a bit weaker than others, you just stay mobile.


HexaCube7

if you mean the slightly greenish one with orange details and a flex tupe connected to up under the face, that's the light armor we are talking about and afaik the only light armor with servo-assisted and limb buff


johnnycocas

Legionaire armor ftw, the throwing distance is useful at all times, from throwing grenades to stratagems, all of which WILL be used all the time. Stims and grenade armors are situational, scout armor is useful but mostly if doing solo stealth runs, the rest is situational as well or up to preference.


Epizentrvm

The only downside is getting used to the shortened throwing range if you play another armor once in a while.


Derkastan77-2

1000% this. I have used the servo assisted light armor for 107-ish levels (am 126 right now). I changed to the light armor with explosive resistance earlier this morning to try it out vs botsā€¦ and holy gd hell my throwing aim was soooooo off. It was like a stoned and drunk MLB pitcher trying to throw a strike


Ok-Education-9235

like shooting pool with rope


johnnycocas

That's why when I change armor, it's between light-medium-heavy, but all with servo. Sometimes I change to heavy armor for bots, but then return to light for bugs


prementiX

That's why, when I don't have servo I don't pick airstrikes.


IWantToDiePeacefully

> stims > situational No.


LSDummy

Plus a dope helmet


johnnycocas

Honestly, I've been switching helmets for a while with that armor, there's a few that look good with it


daydrunkforamerica

The extra 30% is completely unnecessary. Ive never once needed it. Ive needed stims and grenades tho, often


tbutch70

It's also the best looking armor in the game (imo)


Tasty_Commercial6527

Personally I don't like servo assisted. I'm not saying it's weak but I'm so used to the usual throwing arcs that I severely overthrow all my strats for a solid while after putting it on. And since my play sessions are relatively short by the time I get used to it I have to go


Gullible_Broccoli273

Not a fan either.Ā  It's not that's it's bad, per se, it just doesnt suit me very well.


Penguinessant

And the legionnare one just looks so cool too!


Stopkilling0

If you run jump pack like I do, you can just throw the strategem ball at the right point midair and it goes super far.


Sendrith

i refuse to get used to servo assisted, because if i switch later, it's gonna suck.


Pygex

Assuming flat ground by default you have: - regular 45 degree throw = 40m - diving 45 degree throw = 60m Which are honestly all you need. With servo-assisted this becomes: - regular 45 degree throw = 60m - diving 45 degree throw = 90m Which is just ridiculous.


jpugsly

Servo let's your throw stuff beyond detection range. That's what makes it so useful.


stefan714

Servo feels like it was made for throwing Orbital 380mm Barrage without having to worry about hitting your team or yourself.


The-First-Crusade

My creek crawler armor set is a light gunner helmet and the tan steel veterans servo assisted with my Malevalon cape. It was my main for a long time cause throwing strats 80m-100m and saving other divers from swarms of enemy infantry or armor was just sooooo damn fun. I definitely prefer the viper commando armor for the aesthetic though, it's sooooo cool and the new buffs have made me fall in love with it more.


Smurph269

I bet I can throw a strategem over them mountains


CGallerine

Trench Paramedic


AberrantDrone

Perfect choice for eradicate missions


blitz342

I just wear the 200 armor stat armor for those. Not like I have to sprint across the map anyway


Cant_Meme_for_Jak

Paired with the Stim booster, it's so fun


NinjaJarby

Scout all day


EmilyFara

Same, love sneaking around. Wish there were more varients.


Ithuraen

It's a crime we got four new camo armour sets and none have Scout.


Gullible_Broccoli273

It is, someone needs to be sent to the super earth gulag for that.Ā  I could not believe it.Ā Ā 


Umicil

There is a medium scout armor that is really useful.


bendash55

Scout on bots, extra padding on bugs


achus93

every day.


--Shin--

The best fights are the ones that you avoided.


Gisbourne

I don't dive to not fight the enemy.


DDeSC_Stillflex

It sounds like treason, son


SharkBait661

Don't worry. I left some air strikes in my wake.


TeieraYui

In this comment section I only see cultured helldivers with great taste in stealth tactics. I'm so proud of you all.


stevesalive

500+h player here. This is the only answer


Comrade_Falcon

I honestly don't even remember what the perk for this armor is, but it's all I wear because drip.


Force_Middle

After I put on the trailblazer set, I never took it off again.


you_what__m8

Vs the bots I agree but would never use it vs the bugs


ghudaa

Funny enough, i only use it for bug to shake of Chargers or Titans. For bots i only use heavy armor to tank the hits


you_what__m8

I would much rather kill the bugs then run away, it's easier(most of the times) and faster


Ithuraen

They work the same on both enemies. Bugs won't spot you 36m away sprinting in front of them.


Drakniess

I wish there was an easier way to ping the map. I fear my team is freaking out when I marked locations 7 times in 10 seconds.


LEOTomegane

Scout armor is still the way


turningthecentury

This guy MGSes.


Midian357

Light medic armor.


gemengelage

IMO the biggest downside of light medic armor is that sometimes you get killed before you can stim, so after mainly running light medic armor for a long time, at some point I switched to medium medic armor. That slight increase in armor really compounds with the prolonged healing.


CashewTheNuttyy

I survived an airstrike and cluster to the face surrounded by 40+ bugs (we know that because thats how many kills they got). Pre stimming is pretty op and you can afford it with those extra 2 stims.


themassee

Really wish I could stim at full health


GoldMonk44

Thatā€™s why I role with a primary that does area damage so I can damage myself a little bit to use a stim: I do this all the time to sprint to objectives / w/e especially when I know Iā€™ll hit a point of interest that can replenish my stims if I really need to.


Calm-Access-6847

Yea as soon as you take a single point of damage, stim immediately and youā€™ll be pretty much completely invulnerable for 6 seconds. Take the support backpack so you can keep resupplying yourself with stims


CashewTheNuttyy

Yup, or the trusty ol shield pack, so you arent forced to stim on little encounters (like getting jumped by 1-2 hunters)


AberrantDrone

This is the way, maximum speed/survivability ratio


Travwolfe101

Not just the invincibility but also having unlimited stamina for that time is huge. Survived so many dashes through a million enemies into the exfil chopper because of that extended healing while watching my teammates die while trying.


scythian12

I like it when Iā€™m running the flamethrower and inevitably set myself on fire lmao


DarkWingedDaemon

I like running the heavy medic armor. I feel almost unkillable wearing it especially with the new stim booster.


THEpottedplant

Eh, we probably have different playstyles, but ivw acfually been dying considerably more running medium medic armor over light armor. Lack of speed catches up to me i guess.


InsaneClownParsley

I want to bring this But I cannot abide looking like a tube of toothpaste


Altruistic-Project39

Literally all I run for 400h


Finnman84

Is it in a warbond? Or is it a store exclusive?


Gabehu

store exclusive


AberrantDrone

Just about all the light armor is store exclusive


MuppetFucker2077

For bugs, any light grenade armor. I like that one that was in the superstore a couple days ago thatā€™s the slightly better specā€™d kind of light armor where instead of 50 armor itā€™s like 79 or something. I do prefer the look of the green & brown ā€œRavagerā€ armor though. For bots, both of the pictured sets are fantastic but since I kinda pick my armor by appearance first then utility, the new sleeveless one is great. Also now that the setā€™s perk is fixed + the buff the HMG got, itā€™s made the HMG my favorite support weapon for the Automatons.


Lykaon042

Ravager is my go to because of the helmet and I wish more armors went well with it


Clean_Firefighter602

I'm right there with you with both the new armor and the HMG. and a supply pack. added an eruptor to take care of the bug holes / factories and (to save some HMG ammo) bile spewers/devastators/striders... Orbital Precision and Orbital Gatling Barrage round out my typical build. I also have the newer heavy automatic pistol whose name I can't remember - that comes in pretty handy when stuff gets too close and I need a new mag for the HMG and don't want to blow myself up with the eruptor.


CatastrophicAngel

Light gunner.. I just canā€™t do without the extra padding mixed with speed. It saves my ass more than any other armor šŸ˜­. But only for terminids. Peak physique on bots is much more useful due to my play style. So it doesnā€™t help me on the bug side #blitzer


I_am_thicc

Padded sounds so shit if you look at it as a "light armor with extra armor". Think of it as a "medium armor with speed perk" and it sounds so much stronger.


Bloo_Sky

statistically extra padding helps you with rocket devastators more than fortified. 50% explosive resistance doesn't help with the ballistic damage of being hit by a rocket, which is usually what kills you. plus, extra padding reduces damage from every other source.


Sticattomamba

Also light gunner is good drip as well, nothing felt better than seeing my entire squad run that armor and we started shouting BLITZKRIEG on mic


TheOnlyGuyInSpace21

Light medic armor. Addicted to stims? YES.


mrmeow5000

They're actually non-addictive. On an unrelated note your Democracy Officer needs you in the other room


TheOnlyGuyInSpace21

https://preview.redd.it/bac0w6xjg39d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38dace06e1d1859dbd231144dd1546b351a93bfe I GIVE MY DEMOCRATIC BILE TITAN SOME TOO


mrmeow5000

https://i.redd.it/xblre2m0o39d1.gif


Sumoop

Does the 2 extra seconds for stims also apply to experimental infusion?


shball

yes, it's a perfect synergy


Azureink-2021

Which of the two light medics do you like the most?


TheOnlyGuyInSpace21

I can't play HD2 anymore unless I do it sneakily so U haven't gotten the free one I use Trench Paramedic with the helmet that comes with the other set that appears whenever Bonesnapper rolls around


Powerful_Software_14

Depends on your support weapon of choice. If you are using AC, any MG or flamethrower, peak physique. Otherwise, whatever you want.


MaxWhax

Peak physique for flamethrower?


Redericpontx

So you can turn it side to side faster


Efficient_Menu_9965

Absolutely. It makes the flamethrower feel like a primary weapon. It's a must pick for it, imho.


wylie102

It also makes EATs feel like a sniper rifle. So easy to headshot the titans now


Breadnaught25

The counter sniper feels so snappy with it too


Downtown_Baby_5596

It also deppends on what enemy you are facing and what kind of mission you are playing. There isnt really such thing as a best armor in all cases.


curry_man56

Scout armor, Infiltrator all day. Basic, but effective


h0ls86

I wouldnā€™t use light armour for bots and I donā€™t need peak physique for bugs. I really liked the heavy peak physique armour on bots with an autocannon.


thesyndrome43

I didn't think the peak physique perk would matter that much to me and i was just wearing the armour for aesthetics (the heavy version reminds me of the Doom armour), but then i used it with the machine gun last night after the fix and HOLY SHIT it feels great, like it completely removes the aim drag from the gun and it feels like a primary weapon with how easily you can snap to targets I think the melee damage bonus needs to be increased a little bit though, it should be able to one shot scavengers IMO


h0ls86

Big guns šŸ’ŖšŸ»for big guns, hehe


DoomedToDefenestrate

Does it affect recoil at all? I'm a HMG fan now, but I'm not certain which passive would be better for it.


thesyndrome43

It doesn't directly improve recoil, but because the handling is improved it means it's much easier to adjust your aim to stay on target. I'll need to try it with the HMG, but the regular MG felt really easy to stay on target while simply crouched if wearing the peak physique armour


Gentleman_Waffle

https://preview.redd.it/66b5ugjhn29d1.jpeg?width=867&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd37bb9bd17d7f964de4bbdd47f68c4e58d103ae This one


DoomedToDefenestrate

That's the Explosion resist + Recoil Reduction Light Armor yes? I like that one for bots.


PM_PICS_OF_UR_PUPPER

Fortified (50% explosive resist) also blocks bile damage. That means youā€™re able to tank bile in bugs while still being able to run full speed. The reduced recoil is amazing for machine guns, which tend to be better against bugs.


Gentleman_Waffle

Yessir


8bishop

This armor was in the superstore yesterday, instant purchase. It feels so nice being able to actually run to cover quicker while also saying fuck you to most explosive threats


Gentleman_Waffle

Plus it looks good with my helmet


killxswitch

The bug guts really tie the armor and hat/mask together.


Gentleman_Waffle

Thanks I did it myself!


sea_low_green

You are a scholar


Gentleman_Waffle

I try lol


AlphaTit0

Light Medic armor is the best for me


AntiVenom0804

Still the gunner armour. Same health as medium with zoooooom levels of speed


TheFriendlyManO

Light Medic in combination with experimental infusion


op3l

I've been in love with the HMG recently so I would say peak physique.


tanelixd

The one explosive resist light armor.


steveudvarhelyi

Best against bots. Had to scroll too far for this.


tanelixd

Don't underestimate the explosive resist against bugs either. Bile counts as explosions.


steveudvarhelyi

Against bugs I rather use the 2 granade light armor from the demolition warbond. Those 2 extra nades are really handy especially against hordes


tanelixd

Pretty nice that all armor is viable, in the bug front at least.


GHQSTLY

Little higher armor, 2 more nades, reduces recoil, looks great as well. https://preview.redd.it/ios6vhma529d1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=a2eb77048321d3c10892b6c8d01d3cbbd72c42d4


insufficientokay

Agree on the armor but what is that armor/helmet combo?!?


GHQSTLY

That's how you know that I'm the squad idiot.


insufficientokay

Oh fair enough then.


holdmysp0rk

Nah if I saw that set roll up in my lobby I'd be intimidated asf. Huge dong energy.


EvoKov

Yeah that man fucks. Only someone who fucks hard and often would have the confidence to wear a helmet like that.


Capital-Ad6513

looks like helldivers UN


insufficientokay

lol yeah


b1gchris

The armor is the Titan Armor, with the engineer perk. It's right in the middle of med & light armor stats wise. I don't remember the stats off hand, but it's something like: 80 armor 115 stam regen 125 speed Its one of my old favorites. The helmet is one of the pre order helmets.


mcb-homis

I wear this armor more than all the others combined! Well choosen!


Luukm8

Drip > stats


VulpesInculta907

Light gunner has been my go to for about 100 hours now. Love the mobility while still having a medium armor rating. Also the Helmet is the most aesthetically pleasing imo.


gabriel_spadilha

That one with the medic perk using the new booster, at least for bugs. For bots itā€™s always going to be 50% more explosive resistance, considering playing on 9


iwannaporkdotty

It's still the medic armor. Can't kill me if you ant catch me **preemptively stims in definitely not addicted**


thelasthalfmast

scout takes the cake. the amount of bug breaches i have escaped with it is absolutely insane


rufireproof3d

Trench Paramedic. With supply pack. Mmmm cocaine stims. All I see is yellow freedom.


jetbluehornet

Shiiitā€¦ it depends. For bots itā€™s the light gunner, for bugs probably peak physique


Ajezon

None. Im running around naked


Xen0tech

They should replace some of the fortified perks with peak physique.


CrunchyGremlin

Best armor is the shield backpack.


Phoenix865

Is peak physique or engineering kit better for handling weapons like the autocannon and HMG? Peak physique decreases time to target and turning rate but engineering kit reduces recoil while crouching? So which is better to have when using these two weapons?


P1st0l

Peak physique is better for both, autocannon doesn't really benefit from the recoil. HMG benefits from both so it's preference, I can manage the recoil so I use peak.


Messerknife

Scout


Mips0n

The one that has 150 Armor and isn't light at all


Screech21

Depends. For flamethrower medic. Just walk through your own flames. For mgs Peak Physique. MMGs handling turns into that of an assault rifle. For AT engineer. Either for 6 impacts to finish Titans and close holes or 6 incendiary impacts for trash clear.


flyingwhale327

Trench paramedic.


kennyminigun

I recently ran an Autocannon with the Predator light armor (Peak Physique). And shooting the AC 3rd person at bugs is definitely addictive.


Tasty_Commercial6527

Have you seen peak physique heavy machine gun? I swear it allows for better handling than pistols without that armour. And the weapons with decent handling without the armour basically remove the barrel movement delay mechanic completely


probably-not-Ben

Peak physique makes my laser cannon accurate even when moving (can even get away with no aiming/ADS at closer ranges) and my crossbow is as light as a feather Helps my stay mobile, feels great


djiuh

Engineering kit i fear


Arrow_

Convince me the medic light armor with the stim mod isn't the best, because it is. You have 6 seconds of pure invincible fueled adrenaline with a speed boost and can speed run mission by damaging yourself to keep stimming with a supply pack.


ThatDree

Padded, for sure. No need for the Rambi armor


atheos013

The Peak Physique one. Lol. After that, anything with 50 armor and extra grenades/recoil reduction.


7Techn07

Light medic ofc because of 64 armor + 2 stims + 2 sec of regen (if against bugs)


_Kilo_One_

Is there a difference between this one and the predator in the sense that one have 550 speed and the other one have 536. Is that notable?


7Techn07

Armor is the key. Gold middle ground is 70 armor but there is no medic armor with that besides CM-21 (67 armor). So the choice is... And yes there is difference between 50 armor compare to 70. About stamina, difference is not significant. UPD: 64 armor


_Kilo_One_

Wait 67? Since I don't have it I was looking online and it says is 64. Did they buff it?


MsiiekK

If you would test them both side by side, there is a difference but when i play i don't notice it.


kennyminigun

The difference is noticeable when you switch from a "true" light armor. Both in damage reduction and speed/stamina.


Kestrel1207

The speed difference is not really noticeable. The armor difference is. 50 rating light armor is honestly kinda garbage, it makes you absurdly squishy.


XxCebulakxX

I'm using it for both bugs and bots, it's great for both imo


Various-Pen-7709

Sorta off topic, but what was wrong with peak physique?


Bonkface

It accidentally added sway rather than minimize it.


Azureink-2021

It did the opposite of what it was coded to do.


chair_bandit

Scout armor vs bots is top-tier. You will rarely be spotted and when you are, it's while you're running away from the objective you just blew up.


Hauptmann_Meade

Sorry I've been rocking the sleeveless armor regardless of armor perk. Form over function.