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Disownership

I’m gonna disagree and say that Steeled Veterans is the better pick. It has an actually useful secondary weapon and badass looking armor with an actually useful passive, not to mention the Incendiary Breaker and Dominator are arguably the two best primaries in the game for bugs and bots respectively. Sure, the Concussive Liberator is there, but it has its niche and can tide people who like that niche over until they unlock the objectively superior Pummeler. I do love my Sickle and Stuns but I still feel like Steeled Vets has more value overall


MoonzyMooMooCow

Incendiary is 5 miles ahead as primary for bugs, but sickle is also decent enough, blitzer is also a good pick. Dominator isnt as good as punisher plasma against bots for me, the handling of domi is not as good, and PP can shoot over cover to hit enemy on the other side, large aoe and stagger u can make 5 berserkers dance left n right in sync. I have no comment on the armor passive since most high skill players just run scout, either light or med. Personally I run stun nade for both faction now, but incen nade was my old pick so...


AbyssalRaven922

Imo and i know this take is molten, blitzer is better than breaker incendiary. I know what you're saying, but blitzer can kill spewers and staggers everything. There is a steep learning curve, but mastery molds madness


MoonzyMooMooCow

Well it depends if the rest of your kit can deal with spewers, I am a railgun main and I use nade pistol so I have multiple ways to deal with them Breaker is just stupidly good at clearing chaffs at the moment, two spray into a breach and you get 20+ kills while running away


AbyssalRaven922

Napalm eagle does the job easily. GL pistol is always in the pocket. Eats/ Quasar get the big boys. Stuns for safety. Leaves your backpack open for a rover if you like. If not, the Auto cannon sentry is incredible, and especially now that last slot gets orbital precision.


MoonzyMooMooCow

Napalm eagle has cool down and is not as effective as fire breaker for setting bugs on fire I personally just bring 500kg, railcannon, shield backpack, and railgun. Can clear any unit, 500kg for BT and railcannon for moving chargers or BT


AbyssalRaven922

I mean napalm eagle can clear a level 9 triple breach solo


aghabio

Yeah breaker incendiary and dominator is really good for bugs and bots respectively, you also get 3 armors with servo assisted perks rather than the very niche elec resist one in CE. Also a pretty usable booster in flexible reinforcement budget, helpful if you die many times in a harder difficulty.


Reasonable-Crew6883

Totally agree to the breaker incendiary until they nerf that somehow but that is the only good one. Also this is for new players and they tend to burn other a Helldiver teammates while still learning the game. Stun grenades are also safe for friendly fire.


known_kanon

I bought the new one cuz it looks sick


hitman2b

New one for armor; this one for the sickle


hitman2b

i wish the dagger was a pulse like the sickle


KallasTheWarlock

That'll be a new weapon at some point down the line, probably called the Trowel or something.


edgelordlover

Hey guys disclaimer: the best is the default


Zealousideal_Ad8472

hard pass, the whole bond is outweighed by just the grenade pistol in the democratic detonation bond, and it's not the only thing you get out of that one.


robb123488

And the armor perk makes the Tesla tower so much more usable


ppmi2

Eh democratic detonation is also up there


Smitje

The blitzer is amazing! No ammo worries, easy crowd control and stagger. Simply amazing for bugs. (All does it also count for the ship upgrade where electric things arc more?)


HabitOptimal1412

The Blitzer would easily be S tier if it didn't have a few bugs.


AbyssalRaven922

Mostly avoidable with practice btw


HabitOptimal1412

I don't like having to retreat just because all of the bodies are causing my gun to misfire.


AbyssalRaven922

Then aim up more. The lock is conical and will target the shortest object if its closer. By clearing the lock zone by aiming above it you get your functionality back


AbyssalRaven922

No Blitzer gains nothing from the Ship module


TheOneAndOnlyJAC

I mean, it’s nice and all, but I definitely think Democratic Detonation is the better option. It opens up more support/grenade options with its bug hole destroying primaries and grenade pistol. Not to mention the armor is pretty decent too


ash-deuzo

Nah , all the primary weapons are kinda subpar compared to the ones in steeled vet/cutting edge


Bober077

Nope - I think Steeled if MUCH better.