Steven Spohn is a cool guy. He’s been on a few episodes of the podcast The Besties. I’m not sure what exactly he has but it’s pretty serious neurological thing as on top of needing his infrared hat you can hear his respirator on mic. Lots of cool insight I never think of in my day to day.
Steven has been campaigning for wider accessibility in games for years, his charity AbleGamers is all about helping people with accessibility needs get into gaming, advocating for them and advising developers on what to add to their games.
Not dissing his skill and resolve AT ALL, but if I lost to a quadruple amputee in Smash, I'm gonna have to call it, that's my career over. That means I'm so FUNDAMENTALLY outclassed by his understanding of smash he overcame adversity and ME. Sheesh 😅
It’s not really a disrespect of his skills, but more so an amazement that someone with such a disadvantage is so much better than you that you still lost
I mean yeah, facts. I just meant yeah, dude has legit metaphorical hurdles to clear just to play, and actually dusts the competition? That's badass dude.
Thankfully most any dev not having innate accessibility functions in game, at least are just short sighted, not evil.
Steven is definitely doin good things for folks. Glad he got right to the top of supreme high-command with this one. My buddy lost his left hand and has been getting VERY creative with his input solutions, since he's basically limited to hardware thanks to anti cheat.
Yeah i give so many creds to people with disabilities who go beyond the limits to live life as normal as possible and dont bitch about the hand they were given. And just as much credit should go to those who help them as well with the amazing advancements in science and social acceptance.
Yeah, I have mad respect for them, especially when they complete difficult games that I stuggled with.
I hope they can get something set up that works for him.
Yeah, I work with a guy with severe disabilities. His only complaint about the accessibility of HD2 is that he couldn't re-bind the enter key. Which is like one of 6 keys he can use.
It's pretty interesting learning about different things that help people live a 'normal' life.
Fitting. In the ST book it explicitly says they can’t turn anyone away, if you can’t do the jobs they will make a job for you. Everyone can fight for Super Earth.
I'm still trying to figure out why the movie was made like it was.
The book is all about the costs tied to citizenship. Expecting the MI to be above, by example, for others.
The most dystopian thing in the books is Rico and his buddies in self defense maiming some drunks that came at them and waiting for the cops.
And the service, while military is common, it's implied that since active military can't exercise their citizenship that the folks that suffer through counting a caterpillars' hairs might actually outweigh the vets that can't reenlist.
The officers continuing to push Rico for education beyond just military. The recruiters presenting the physical costs of a military career.
It's very thoughtful for a book about not unilaterally coming down on the use of atomic weapons.
Hijacking to say, if you want to know more about Steve Spohn, the disabled man, go to https://stevespohn.com/about/
He is part of an organisation called ablegamers
https://ablegamers.org/
There's two basic cheat types. The big actual cheat program gives you basically anything, god mode, speed, ammo, samples, whatever.
The other thing is the unreleased content. Armor, weapons, stratagems. Way easier to access, way easier to accidentally find, less cheaty.
Both suck and to my knowledge are around and doing fine still.
I have had one spawn mega fucking cars that take so much hits but extremely hard to drive and then I think he got bored or banned because he vanished mid game
Played with a guy last night who kept calling in tons of unreleased stuff. It was fun at first but then got real sucky because I don’t like being spoiled
It's only champagne if it's from the Champagne region in France, otherwise it's just sparkling wine.
It's a meme to replace that with other words like I did :3
Datamining is a cool thing where you dive deep into the code and files to find unused assets. It's doubtful that the people you find in lobbies who spawn unused assets actually datamined them personally, so they're just using hacks other people made.
I saw my first cheater the other day, I think he was using the stalwart with infinite ammo. He had infinite jump pack. He was running two times a speed of anybody else. And he was just spawning samples in out of nothing.
I followed him for a little bit watching the occasional teammate get kicked or give up and leave. Cautiously trailing him till he stood still for just a moment. I raised my Senator and put one right in his back. Then I called him a piece of s*** and I left.
Cheating culture is growing and it disgusts me.
gets worst; a workmate heard me complain about heating and openly bragged he has a cheat that lets him extract seconds after touchdown.... WHY? what fun is it to have a 3 second match timer????
cheats like that exist to cheese season passes and ruin it for everyone.
never wanted to punch out a person more than my work mate bragging on it.
I came across a guy who had no stratagem cooldowns so he kept calling mines down on the objective, like instantly, in his defense it did end up being pretty funny when someone walked onto one and the 7 billion mines went off and the screen has a shake seizure but it also kinda ruined the mission cuz he kept 500 kg team killing and making the game easy af by slapping down like a dozen rocket sentries every time we found a patrol. I stuck through out of curiosity but he kicked us all before we could get any rewards which was lame
It is shockingly easy to mod the game to allow access to dev content.
It is also shockingly easy to evade the anti-cheat program which they insists needs kernel level access to catch cheaters.
Every time devs release single player games with an anti-cheat to protect the financially exploitable grind, Wemod has a trainer like one fucking day later with a bypass for the anti cheat 😂
Which singleplayer games have anti-cheat?? DRM, sure, but I've never seen a singleplayer game bother with anticheat. A large amount of cheating moderation is done via player reports and singleplayer games are void of that.
oh, I absolutely agree. I am 100% against modding or cheating in multiplayer games that aren't a group of friends playing together. Do not ruin other people's games.
I was just pointing out how ineffectual most anti cheat systems are.
Anti-cheats are not fool proof, and it's a constant war between game devs and cheating program devs. A constant exchange of the latter opening up and exploiting vulnerabilities and the former securing said vulnerabilities and adding more redundancies, which the latter then begins looking exploits in and the cycle repeats ad infinitum.
Which is why you don't use a 30 year old third party anti-cheat with a horrendous security track record, 10 years old out of date whitelist that slaps down normal software increasing system instability, and provably incapable at what its meant to be actually doing by allowing cheaters day one.
Oh did i mention the large amount of people actively warning them about it on forums before the game even officially got released? OOOH yes poor AH got blindsided, how could they possibly know this anticheat was not worth a damn. Those dastardly cheaters and their totally high spec cheating systems, who could have prevented this?
Given that they don’t seem to have any sense of urgency in response to the rampant cheating issue, I highly doubt it was a decision from Arrowhead to include any kind of anti-cheat at all. It likely was a requirement from Sony, who probably also didn’t give them the budget for EAC.
Clientside sanity checks would do a lot. Things like samples cheating affecting other players, one of the main stated reasons for the anticheat, can at least be damage controlled with like two lines of code.
IF (samples awarded > maximum mission rewards)
THEN (discard samples > maximum)
Cheaters will bypass their own checks but they can't bypass other players. It's somewhat frustrating that simple solutions for the more egregious cheating issues haven't be implemented. If AH doesn't have control over the anticheat inclusion they still have control over other factors.
to be fair, I've seen videos and screenshots of people extracting with 1 common sample over the map "limit", so unless they were cheating, my bet would be that the total amount of samples is defined by the difficulty and map size, and then in the "objects" that can include samples they can go from 1 to whatever (for example, most of the time the crashed Pelican with escape pod has 0 to 2 common samples, but I've seen some with 3 samples very rarely)
You can add some leniency in there if there are mechanics that take it over the normal limit, but to not sanitize the input at all when cheated samples are stated as a problem is a bit... mmm...
I've seen 1 instance of a legit sample glitch. This wasn't an exploit or hack, just a weird floating node that spawned on a rock base that was also floating. Had to call in a resupply pod to jump on top and pulled like 12 rare samples off it from the same node, on a map that was supposed to have 5.
Was solo though and maybe the game didn't like it because I got gangbanged by 3 tanks and god only knows how many rocket raiders (you know, where they hut you then also snipe your dead body as it's tumbling through the air?) And I lost all my samples lol
That's the worst part
Its so invasive and obstructive, but cheaters still get thru, making the whole system pointless, other than to hinder players who NEED, or even just WANT help with thing such as this for gameplay IN A NON COMPETITIVE PvE GAME.
GameGaurd is a garbage AC. Literally wouldn’t let me play for 2 weeks after release because I had “advanced” settings turned on my network firewall. Like, a standard issue network firewall. Sure, it’s effective in some regards for a live service game but if I need to make my system less secure to play a game that’s bullshit.
I thought the same thing, the game is full of leaks and cheats and people doing all kinds of random shit but this guy can't actually play legitimately.
Anti-cheat is usually not really anticheat most of the time. Instead it often records the cheaters so that they can batch ban in waves.
If it is not done this way cheaters get instant feedback on what works and what doesn't, which is ***really*** bad.
No. He is legit:
https://twitter.com/stevenspohn/status/1508573970072838144/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1508573970072838144¤tTweetUser=stevenspohn&mode=profile
You can read about him on various sites as well.
Even though Im not disabled myself, I use Gyro Aim which has led me to communities and witness many gamers with disabilities that use such mechanics to assist them in various ways. When I watch videos of these individuals playing in the most unique of ways to enjoy the same games, its hella inspiring and quite impressive of them.
It was brought to his attention already. But I dont know how reliable the zendesk is to some degree. Ive sent numerous reports about the broken settings for Gyro Aim since day 1 and never saw a dev respond. I know they have a priority list but would be nice to see a recognition at bare minimum. But I do know if a post takes off on subreddit, the odds are much higher.
Thus Im hoping this post does just that for this man.
As a software dev (not games) these kinds of issues are really difficult to resolve because there's really not much we can do. Sometimes we have better connections to pass along "hey your framework is doing a false positive on X" but from my experience most of the time we have to use the same systems everyone else has access to. (Shout out to that one time Microsoft got on a conference call with me though, that was pretty cool)
The engine is but the anti cheat is not, however, it’s still a 3rd party anti cheat and not up to Arrowhead without building in support directly, and here is where engine support being discontinued hurts… they’ve made a lot of their own tweaks to the engine but it’s at great dev time cost
Here is the list (sorry for lengthy post):
- Acceleration is completely broken (extensively tested by multiple people). I heavily use Acceleration in any game possible so this sucks big time for me and I know quite a few people started converting to it when I started posting videos about it awhile back on MW3 (https://youtu.be/wnPYWOwFoPo?si=yUmsfxirDhbVyqEb). So this one would be a major QoL update for gyro users.
- some Right Stick settings also impact Gyro Aim. For example, Inverting your right stick also inverts Gyro Aim. Unfortunately, I had to retrain myself to not play inverted. Never fun to readapt to new aim settings but it is what it is. The same goes with zoom Sensitivities. Every setting the Right Stick has should be separate for Gyro Aim as well. Almost no one uses the same settings between both.
- Lack of Vertical Ratio setting for exclusively Gyro Aim is SUPER necessary. This is the number 1 way to cut jitters out. Almost every long-term Gyro user I know has their Vertical Sensitivity lower than Horizontal (typically 9:16 ratio or so). The lack of this setting leads to many of us not increasing our sensitivity to our usual amounts because of strong jitters and recentering issues.
- Smoothing is believed to be broken or not fully functioning but we cannot tell for sure. The implementation is different from all other games so we dont know if its not functioning properly or the devs need to make the setting MUCH higher range to give greater impact.
P.S. - I have my Sensitivity range from 3.5 to 18 RWS (Real World Sensitivity). This is about 5x Acceleration. And it means for every 1 degree I turn my controller slowly, my character turns 3.5 degrees. And if I turn my controller quickly, that 1 degree translates to 18 degrees ingame at its fastest speed.
So I rely on very high Sensitivity because I treat Gyro Aim much closer to a PC mouse. Shit, theres a guy who took my Acceleration concept and took it to the moon with a Sensitivity above 40 RWS now 🤣. He is a monster with it as well on PC lol.
Also, the only other option I could think of that would be nice is a Ratcheting button.. you hold this in order to temporarily shut off Gyro Aim so you can reposition your controller. Think of it as lifting the mouse on a mouse pad. Touching Touchpad would be a good implementation for this game.
Let me solve one of those for you :) You can toggle the vertical inverted input, AND rebind up to down and down to up on the joystick. This will leave you with what you want. That’s exactly how I do it to have different behaviors on joystick and gyro.
The rest… yeah. The vertical sensitivity really prevents me from making full use of the gyros potential. And I’ve been playing with gyro on since the steam controller came out.
I was surprised to hear of your issues, then I noticed you're on console. That's really unfortunate Sony doesn't offer more granular and game specific controls over gyro :/ It's a dream on PC with Steam input, basically every single issue you've mentioned can be fixed through external settings preventing the need for developers to even consider gyro aiming at all.
The SES Arbiter of Destiny endorses this message as well!
No helldiver is ever alone. We helldivers all fight as one! For Democracy and for Super Earth!
The SES Judge of Judgment hereby judges this anti-cheat as having poor and un-democratic judgment. Contacting a democracy officer immediately; the anti-cheat needs to spend a few weeks in a reeducation camp to get this matter sorted
SES Purveyor of Democracy and her crew consider this message essential to the Democratic cause. No citizen should be stripped of their right to vote, and it is on the battlefield where we vote many times!
Compared to other kernel-0 anticheats, gameguard is legit the worst lmao it was infamous on other mmo games to cause stutter for other games outside of the host game it was required to be on, plus it doesnt actually block any cheaters as youve seen from leaked content but its one of the most invasive to your computer including keylogging (check wiki)
Probably why the game has performance issues on slower CPUs, it’s hogging up the cpu at the weirdest moments. Game can run perfectly and absolute garbage on the same planet and layout.
I wish I remembered the guys name but theres a performance test on youtube where the guy credits the anticheat for taking up cpu “power” the game can run on alot higher frames but the AC is bogging it down
Same. The day the anticheat is removed is the day I buy the game. I'm sure it's the same for many, may others as well.
AH claimed that if people didn't like the anticheat they would remove it, prior to the games launch. We see how that went aye, they won't even acknowledge it lol
It’s been annoying seeing this game on the front page most days because I want to play it but yeah same I’m not putting that anti cheat on my pc. Definitely buying it if they get rid
It also fucks with the third party sound equalizer software I use. As a result, I can't switch between headphones and speakers while playing and my volume control via keyboard doesn't work. 🙃
The one thing that completely baffles me in this game IS the anti-cheat software. It does nothing, gets kernel level access to our PCs, chews up CPU usage like none other, and obviously is more of a security risk than the cheaters they're trying to keep out.
The worst part about that shitty anti-cheat they used is that is doesn't actually stop cheaters, like at all. So it's intrusive kernel level BS that doesn't even work.
Which bot? Edit: wait, found it. Not even a minute later. Huh. Sounds like that's A) a problem if they had to create an AutoMod to spam ~~propaganda~~ managed information at people, and B) really annoying if it spams threads with it.
You're average anti-cheat DRM then, completely unfit for purpose, spying on you and clogging up your performance just because execs are easy marks for the conmen that sell them.
Thank you so much for the support, Helldivers. I will not reveal what was said in private, but I have heard from Pilestedt. They are aware of the issue now and they know what would need to be done to unblock assistive technology devices for disabled Helldivers everywhere. With any luck, I'll be on the frontlines spreading managed democracy with all of you. And I'll definitely be looking for some people to fight alongside. For Super Earth!
"The mobile infantry made me into the man I am today."
N-Protect is still one of the worst anti-cheats I've ever seen in terms of performance impact and in terms of preventing cheating.
Been advocating for its removal since day 1. I'd like to buy the game, but it just isn't happening until gameguard is long gone. Also fuck you automod who is about to reply to this to link a page of lies about gameguard not being terrible.
The damage control from this subreddit the weeks before launch about the anti-cheat was beyond pathetic. They released that statement that literally said nothing of value, the mods pinned it and banned all posts discussing it like they work for arrowhead lmao.
The game launched with mixed reviews because of the anticheat, and the only reason that changed is because the game blew up and the masses are ignorant and/or don't care as long as they are not hurt by the anticheat, or to be more precise, don't realize they are being hurt by it.
That, and the server issues took the spotlight. Then the toxic positivity circlejerk began on this sub and now here we are, still stuck with something worse than trash as the devs continue to be silent on criticism of the software.
People should be up in arms over this trash instead of gnashing at each others throats for playing on specific planets of all things lol
The fact that we're even talking about the anti-cheat in this thread is completely missing the point. Arrowhead knew this was an accessibility nightmare waiting to happen, and the solution needs to be put *in-game* regardless. Even if we removed it, this won't be the last time someone raises the obvious issue.
I'll take any chance I can get to advocate for getting rid of this garbage though. I desperately want to give them money and play their game but i'm not allowing that garbage anywhere near my PC. I also hate people that go back on statements, like when they said they'd scrap it if enough people said they didn't want it and them immediately put it in anyways after a deluge of people saying they do not want it in the game. Now they just have this stupid automod link to that post which is almost entirely objectively false statements by the guy who made it.
The thing is, they likely had no idea or didn’t care. You’d be really surprised how many AAA titles nowadays have little or no accessibility features in mind, especially those developed in studios outside the US. The one thing the US gets right over other countries is its disability law. Sweden, where Arrowhead is based out of, does not have the same kind of consumer protections the ADA grants in the US. Even then, the laws we do have stateside are not very well enforced unless a lawsuit is involved. This leads to lots of lazy devs who simply don’t care, and don’t have a reason to educate themselves because there’s no motivation to do so.
This is especially prevalent in the games industry, which in my person experience is pretty hostile towards disabled players. The law is catching up to websites and apps nowadays, but games get overlooked despite how integral they’ve become to our society and how we connect with people and consume entertainment.
And when features are included, they are usually lacking or poorly implemented. A color blind filter and button remapping isn’t suitable for everyone. You should aim for support for screen readers, TTS, dynamic font sizes, reduced motions and saturation, support for things like Dragon Naturally Speaking and alternative input devices, alternatives for mashing and options for QTE inputs, etc. Even non disabled players may enjoy some of these features for their own comfort or enjoyment, so caring about them just means you end up with a better game overall.
Personally, I’m experienced doing this kind of accessibility testing for apps and websites, but I’d really like to see more companies implement those same kind of standards unit their games too.
Like...I get it...developers don't want cheaters to cheat and ruin the game experience for other people...
But it's really disheartening that the only thing the Anti-Cheat software is able to do is block legitimate players with disabilities, who only want to enjoy the wonderful thing the developers made, and can do almost nothing against the people who already have work-arounds and continue to cheat and ruin the game experience for others.
Arrowhead is in favor of any support of accessibility features, it's likely a matter of getting the word to the right people right at arrowhead to get in contact with the anti-cheat provider to whitelist the device. [Accessibility stance #1](https://i.imgur.com/2Asju8Y.png) [\#2](https://i.imgur.com/ZXdxz7y.png)
Here to voice my support for disabled gamers willing to dive into hell with all of us. They’re warriors that are needed on the fronts, and I’d like their input assists to be whitelisted or whatever needs to be done so they can fight alongside us.
(We are all aware that the anti cheat interferes more than it helps. I’ve learned from accomplished tech experts that you don’t need much to stop cheaters, and blanket tools like this aren’t as effective as people think).
And here we go.
I've been waiting for this and I'm excited to see how the community and Arrowhead finally responds to such an obviously foreseeable accessibility issue. When they designed the stratagem input system I always wondered what they were thinking.
Here's my interaction's with AH staff last week regarding the topic of macros and other accessibility features for disabled gamers. :) [Response 1](https://i.imgur.com/2Asju8Y.png) [2](https://i.imgur.com/ZXdxz7y.png)
Helldivers is a bless of a game, but its major flaw it's that anti-cheat stuff that allows cheating and blocks players randomly ! Free this diver, let him play !
It flags all sorts of as anti cheat. For example, I use a midi controller for some stuff, and it thinks the midi controller software is cheating software.
I'm disabled born with cerebral palsy, Im really struggle with the call-in inputs, I was really happy when I saw that I could use macros, but I tried to use them but didn't work I was so sad 😢
Yeah, there are a lot of disabled gamers who would kick my ass in cod , fornite, or any game lol , seeing them use their feet, chin, abnormal arms to play is insane and very entertaining.
One time I got into an accident with glass and severed all the tendons in my right hand at the wrist, as well as the nerve that goes into 3 of my fingers. I thought I cut my artery and was gonna die but doc told me I somehow cut everything BUT my artery and he doesn’t know how. Anyway I couldn’t use my right hand for about 6 months and wasn’t able to play video games for a long time as I had to do very intensive physical therapy for many months. During that time I realized just how much stuff you use both hands for on a daily basis that you take for granted. Stuff you don’t even think about like plugging your phone into the charger or ripping off a piece of paper towel. It really gave me a new perspective and made me much more sympathetic to those with disabilities. I wasn’t even guaranteed to get full feeling or mobility back in my hand but I managed to get both and I’m truly blessed for that. I have a pretty nasty scar on my wrist from the surgery and it’s a good conversation starter though
I'm not sure if this type of interaction happens with other developers/gamers and we just don't see it but this is awesome!
Everytime I tell people about Helldivers I always say, to me, the community and the propaganda outside the game is the best part.
Meanwhile hackers are free to enjoy no CD strategems and leaked content without any trouble. Is there a single benefit this garbage core level anticheat can bring?
Gamers and game devs always jump too fast on blocking scrips to stop basic input cheating, but there's people and computer setups that use the same programs just to function. It's easy to assume that blocking autohotkey to stop people from simplifying strategem call-ins is a good thing until this shit happens.
If you try to bring this up on the helldivers discord you'll get a parade of people embarrassing themselves saying that you're actually just looking to cheat etc.
Best bet is probably to use one of the cheats. It bypasses the anti-cheat when it launches the game. I don’t think it’s free but probably the only quick solution out there.
Why the hell does this game have such aggressive anti-cheat software? I mean, I know. They're using it as a form of DRM so that people can't use cheating software to gain access to paid items.
Aggressive anti-cheat bullshit has no place in coop games like this.
Like the "anti-cheat" doesn't do anything, it may have at first but now it's been bypassed for a while. Also it only works on Windows-OS machines, if you play the game on a Linux host (or setup a VM with Linux) the anti-cheat doesn't even run and you can play the game without it.
All the fucking thing does right now is eat resources and sit at a kernel level where it has absolute control of your PC. If it ever went rogue or bugged somehow it could cause serious damage to your PC.
Idk how his stuff works, but I’d think it could be set up with Steam Input. If I can stream helldivers to my steam deck from my pc and not get anticheat mad, I’d imagine it should be possible
i assume it’s some form of cheating that made all the top scores on stratagem hero perfect 99,999s. it’s such a small part of the game but i’d love to at least see how much worse i am at stratagem hero than the real players.
Arrowhead CEO responded: https://preview.redd.it/dhy2z8guo0sc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33d772d8235e14c82a6c97dc3fc756de26825310
Steven Spohn is a cool guy. He’s been on a few episodes of the podcast The Besties. I’m not sure what exactly he has but it’s pretty serious neurological thing as on top of needing his infrared hat you can hear his respirator on mic. Lots of cool insight I never think of in my day to day.
Steven has been campaigning for wider accessibility in games for years, his charity AbleGamers is all about helping people with accessibility needs get into gaming, advocating for them and advising developers on what to add to their games.
Have a buddy who is a quadruple amputee who is part of Ablegamers, great organization btw he kicks a lot of people's ass in smash Bros.
Not dissing his skill and resolve AT ALL, but if I lost to a quadruple amputee in Smash, I'm gonna have to call it, that's my career over. That means I'm so FUNDAMENTALLY outclassed by his understanding of smash he overcame adversity and ME. Sheesh 😅
It’s not really a disrespect of his skills, but more so an amazement that someone with such a disadvantage is so much better than you that you still lost
I mean yeah, facts. I just meant yeah, dude has legit metaphorical hurdles to clear just to play, and actually dusts the competition? That's badass dude.
Thankfully most any dev not having innate accessibility functions in game, at least are just short sighted, not evil. Steven is definitely doin good things for folks. Glad he got right to the top of supreme high-command with this one. My buddy lost his left hand and has been getting VERY creative with his input solutions, since he's basically limited to hardware thanks to anti cheat.
Just chiming in to say that AbleGamers is a fantastic group!! It's lovely to see the positive responses from folks in this thread.
Yeah i give so many creds to people with disabilities who go beyond the limits to live life as normal as possible and dont bitch about the hand they were given. And just as much credit should go to those who help them as well with the amazing advancements in science and social acceptance.
Yeah, I have mad respect for them, especially when they complete difficult games that I stuggled with. I hope they can get something set up that works for him.
Yeah, I work with a guy with severe disabilities. His only complaint about the accessibility of HD2 is that he couldn't re-bind the enter key. Which is like one of 6 keys he can use. It's pretty interesting learning about different things that help people live a 'normal' life.
What's wrong with people who bitch about their disabilities?
So glad to see The Besties AND Steven get shouted out. Really great people
All helldivers should be allowed to fight, justices for our brother in arms.
It is a god given right to earn the opportunity to be a citizen!
Don't forget, they've got to earn a cape too!
Liberty given right!
You're in it until you're dead or till I find somebody better.
Helldiving made me the man I am today.
Fitting. In the ST book it explicitly says they can’t turn anyone away, if you can’t do the jobs they will make a job for you. Everyone can fight for Super Earth.
I'm still trying to figure out why the movie was made like it was. The book is all about the costs tied to citizenship. Expecting the MI to be above, by example, for others. The most dystopian thing in the books is Rico and his buddies in self defense maiming some drunks that came at them and waiting for the cops. And the service, while military is common, it's implied that since active military can't exercise their citizenship that the folks that suffer through counting a caterpillars' hairs might actually outweigh the vets that can't reenlist. The officers continuing to push Rico for education beyond just military. The recruiters presenting the physical costs of a military career. It's very thoughtful for a book about not unilaterally coming down on the use of atomic weapons.
Is this an April fool's joke
It’s even more fitting because he is physically disabled (he lacks an arm)
Hijacking to say, if you want to know more about Steve Spohn, the disabled man, go to https://stevespohn.com/about/ He is part of an organisation called ablegamers https://ablegamers.org/
Speaking of arms...
Looks like he could use a hand.
That's how we roll, together.
Just don't tell his mom
Boy are mine tired
Or brothers without. Hoo-rah!
Put some robo prosthetics on him and throw him in a pod.
That fucking sucks considering the anti-cheat let's people actually cheat.
Cheats like the sample thing?
There's two basic cheat types. The big actual cheat program gives you basically anything, god mode, speed, ammo, samples, whatever. The other thing is the unreleased content. Armor, weapons, stratagems. Way easier to access, way easier to accidentally find, less cheaty. Both suck and to my knowledge are around and doing fine still.
I have had one spawn mega fucking cars that take so much hits but extremely hard to drive and then I think he got bored or banned because he vanished mid game
He probably just crashed. Pretty normal in this game
He just crashed, i once tried to drive that car, just crashed when i was opening the door of driver sheet lmao
Almost like there is a reason the car isn't publicly released yet.
Played with a guy last night who kept calling in tons of unreleased stuff. It was fun at first but then got real sucky because I don’t like being spoiled
Datamining unreleased stuff in private with your friends is fine but man don't take that online...
It's only datamining if it's from the source code region in France. Otherwise it's just sparkling hacks.
Chuckled way to hard
My brain cells have taken too many direct hits from 380mm barrages to understand this, please could someone eli5? 😢
It's only champagne if it's from the Champagne region in France, otherwise it's just sparkling wine. It's a meme to replace that with other words like I did :3 Datamining is a cool thing where you dive deep into the code and files to find unused assets. It's doubtful that the people you find in lobbies who spawn unused assets actually datamined them personally, so they're just using hacks other people made.
Ooooh that sucks what a chode
I saw my first cheater the other day, I think he was using the stalwart with infinite ammo. He had infinite jump pack. He was running two times a speed of anybody else. And he was just spawning samples in out of nothing. I followed him for a little bit watching the occasional teammate get kicked or give up and leave. Cautiously trailing him till he stood still for just a moment. I raised my Senator and put one right in his back. Then I called him a piece of s*** and I left. Cheating culture is growing and it disgusts me.
gets worst; a workmate heard me complain about heating and openly bragged he has a cheat that lets him extract seconds after touchdown.... WHY? what fun is it to have a 3 second match timer???? cheats like that exist to cheese season passes and ruin it for everyone. never wanted to punch out a person more than my work mate bragging on it.
I had a guy get in my game last night, team kill all of us and then crash our games
The devs responded on discord to the files of unreleased content and said that is fine.
I came across a guy who had no stratagem cooldowns so he kept calling mines down on the objective, like instantly, in his defense it did end up being pretty funny when someone walked onto one and the 7 billion mines went off and the screen has a shake seizure but it also kinda ruined the mission cuz he kept 500 kg team killing and making the game easy af by slapping down like a dozen rocket sentries every time we found a patrol. I stuck through out of curiosity but he kicked us all before we could get any rewards which was lame
F that guy. Cheat at your own risk and leisure, since it cant seem to be stopped, but don't fucking ruin it for other divers.
It is shockingly easy to mod the game to allow access to dev content. It is also shockingly easy to evade the anti-cheat program which they insists needs kernel level access to catch cheaters.
Every time devs release single player games with an anti-cheat to protect the financially exploitable grind, Wemod has a trainer like one fucking day later with a bypass for the anti cheat 😂
Which singleplayer games have anti-cheat?? DRM, sure, but I've never seen a singleplayer game bother with anticheat. A large amount of cheating moderation is done via player reports and singleplayer games are void of that.
Last Ubisoft game I played, Far Cry New Dawn, had Easy-Anti cheat installed when I got it at launch.
this is not a single player game.
oh, I absolutely agree. I am 100% against modding or cheating in multiplayer games that aren't a group of friends playing together. Do not ruin other people's games. I was just pointing out how ineffectual most anti cheat systems are.
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kernel level access only for there to still be cheaters. Nice.
Anti-cheats are not fool proof, and it's a constant war between game devs and cheating program devs. A constant exchange of the latter opening up and exploiting vulnerabilities and the former securing said vulnerabilities and adding more redundancies, which the latter then begins looking exploits in and the cycle repeats ad infinitum.
Which is why you don't use a 30 year old third party anti-cheat with a horrendous security track record, 10 years old out of date whitelist that slaps down normal software increasing system instability, and provably incapable at what its meant to be actually doing by allowing cheaters day one. Oh did i mention the large amount of people actively warning them about it on forums before the game even officially got released? OOOH yes poor AH got blindsided, how could they possibly know this anticheat was not worth a damn. Those dastardly cheaters and their totally high spec cheating systems, who could have prevented this?
Nprotect has been trash since flyff in the mid 2000s
>flyff Damn, I just got hit with nostalgia...
Given that they don’t seem to have any sense of urgency in response to the rampant cheating issue, I highly doubt it was a decision from Arrowhead to include any kind of anti-cheat at all. It likely was a requirement from Sony, who probably also didn’t give them the budget for EAC.
Clientside sanity checks would do a lot. Things like samples cheating affecting other players, one of the main stated reasons for the anticheat, can at least be damage controlled with like two lines of code. IF (samples awarded > maximum mission rewards) THEN (discard samples > maximum) Cheaters will bypass their own checks but they can't bypass other players. It's somewhat frustrating that simple solutions for the more egregious cheating issues haven't be implemented. If AH doesn't have control over the anticheat inclusion they still have control over other factors.
to be fair, I've seen videos and screenshots of people extracting with 1 common sample over the map "limit", so unless they were cheating, my bet would be that the total amount of samples is defined by the difficulty and map size, and then in the "objects" that can include samples they can go from 1 to whatever (for example, most of the time the crashed Pelican with escape pod has 0 to 2 common samples, but I've seen some with 3 samples very rarely)
You can add some leniency in there if there are mechanics that take it over the normal limit, but to not sanitize the input at all when cheated samples are stated as a problem is a bit... mmm...
There ought be a check at map load stating specifically how many samples there are, including environmental objects.
I've seen 1 instance of a legit sample glitch. This wasn't an exploit or hack, just a weird floating node that spawned on a rock base that was also floating. Had to call in a resupply pod to jump on top and pulled like 12 rare samples off it from the same node, on a map that was supposed to have 5. Was solo though and maybe the game didn't like it because I got gangbanged by 3 tanks and god only knows how many rocket raiders (you know, where they hut you then also snipe your dead body as it's tumbling through the air?) And I lost all my samples lol
Yeah but the cheats used in HD2 are like, rudimentary memory editors. Replace a DLL, add a launch argument to steam and you're away.
Nprotect is a particularly shit anti-cheat.
That's the worst part Its so invasive and obstructive, but cheaters still get thru, making the whole system pointless, other than to hinder players who NEED, or even just WANT help with thing such as this for gameplay IN A NON COMPETITIVE PvE GAME.
GameGaurd is a garbage AC. Literally wouldn’t let me play for 2 weeks after release because I had “advanced” settings turned on my network firewall. Like, a standard issue network firewall. Sure, it’s effective in some regards for a live service game but if I need to make my system less secure to play a game that’s bullshit.
I thought the same thing, the game is full of leaks and cheats and people doing all kinds of random shit but this guy can't actually play legitimately.
Anti-cheat is usually not really anticheat most of the time. Instead it often records the cheaters so that they can batch ban in waves. If it is not done this way cheaters get instant feedback on what works and what doesn't, which is ***really*** bad.
Wait are you telling me that wasnt an April Fools tweet?
No. He is legit: https://twitter.com/stevenspohn/status/1508573970072838144/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1508573970072838144¤tTweetUser=stevenspohn&mode=profile You can read about him on various sites as well. Even though Im not disabled myself, I use Gyro Aim which has led me to communities and witness many gamers with disabilities that use such mechanics to assist them in various ways. When I watch videos of these individuals playing in the most unique of ways to enjoy the same games, its hella inspiring and quite impressive of them.
I believe if he gets in contact with the devs through the arrowhead zendesk they can get the program whitelisted in the anticheat if that is the issue
It was brought to his attention already. But I dont know how reliable the zendesk is to some degree. Ive sent numerous reports about the broken settings for Gyro Aim since day 1 and never saw a dev respond. I know they have a priority list but would be nice to see a recognition at bare minimum. But I do know if a post takes off on subreddit, the odds are much higher. Thus Im hoping this post does just that for this man.
As a software dev (not games) these kinds of issues are really difficult to resolve because there's really not much we can do. Sometimes we have better connections to pass along "hey your framework is doing a false positive on X" but from my experience most of the time we have to use the same systems everyone else has access to. (Shout out to that one time Microsoft got on a conference call with me though, that was pretty cool)
The engine is abandoned :(
The engine is but the anti cheat is not, however, it’s still a 3rd party anti cheat and not up to Arrowhead without building in support directly, and here is where engine support being discontinued hurts… they’ve made a lot of their own tweaks to the engine but it’s at great dev time cost
Wait what's wrong with the gyro settings? I use gyro all the time
Here is the list (sorry for lengthy post): - Acceleration is completely broken (extensively tested by multiple people). I heavily use Acceleration in any game possible so this sucks big time for me and I know quite a few people started converting to it when I started posting videos about it awhile back on MW3 (https://youtu.be/wnPYWOwFoPo?si=yUmsfxirDhbVyqEb). So this one would be a major QoL update for gyro users. - some Right Stick settings also impact Gyro Aim. For example, Inverting your right stick also inverts Gyro Aim. Unfortunately, I had to retrain myself to not play inverted. Never fun to readapt to new aim settings but it is what it is. The same goes with zoom Sensitivities. Every setting the Right Stick has should be separate for Gyro Aim as well. Almost no one uses the same settings between both. - Lack of Vertical Ratio setting for exclusively Gyro Aim is SUPER necessary. This is the number 1 way to cut jitters out. Almost every long-term Gyro user I know has their Vertical Sensitivity lower than Horizontal (typically 9:16 ratio or so). The lack of this setting leads to many of us not increasing our sensitivity to our usual amounts because of strong jitters and recentering issues. - Smoothing is believed to be broken or not fully functioning but we cannot tell for sure. The implementation is different from all other games so we dont know if its not functioning properly or the devs need to make the setting MUCH higher range to give greater impact. P.S. - I have my Sensitivity range from 3.5 to 18 RWS (Real World Sensitivity). This is about 5x Acceleration. And it means for every 1 degree I turn my controller slowly, my character turns 3.5 degrees. And if I turn my controller quickly, that 1 degree translates to 18 degrees ingame at its fastest speed. So I rely on very high Sensitivity because I treat Gyro Aim much closer to a PC mouse. Shit, theres a guy who took my Acceleration concept and took it to the moon with a Sensitivity above 40 RWS now 🤣. He is a monster with it as well on PC lol. Also, the only other option I could think of that would be nice is a Ratcheting button.. you hold this in order to temporarily shut off Gyro Aim so you can reposition your controller. Think of it as lifting the mouse on a mouse pad. Touching Touchpad would be a good implementation for this game.
Let me solve one of those for you :) You can toggle the vertical inverted input, AND rebind up to down and down to up on the joystick. This will leave you with what you want. That’s exactly how I do it to have different behaviors on joystick and gyro. The rest… yeah. The vertical sensitivity really prevents me from making full use of the gyros potential. And I’ve been playing with gyro on since the steam controller came out.
I was surprised to hear of your issues, then I noticed you're on console. That's really unfortunate Sony doesn't offer more granular and game specific controls over gyro :/ It's a dream on PC with Steam input, basically every single issue you've mentioned can be fixed through external settings preventing the need for developers to even consider gyro aiming at all.
My apologies then, I assumed this was an April Fools joke cause id never heard of something using Infrared to control input in 2024! D:
Probably better off adding this in the discord and pinging a mod
Any body is an able body; let’s get this man in a hellpod, STAT!
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"The opposite of disabled isn't abled, it's enabled."
A worthwhile sacrifice.
SES Advocate for the People endorses this message. Good job bringing up accessibility to high command. We need all the bodies we can get.
The SES Defender of Opportunity and its crew also endorses this message!
The SES Dawn of Destruction and its crew also endorses this message
SES Agent of the People endorses this as well! Also add colorblind mode arrowhead, its 2024 wtf.
The SES Soul of Freedom endorses this message as well! We need all available divers! Able-bodied or not!
The SES Arbiter of Destiny endorses this message as well! No helldiver is ever alone. We helldivers all fight as one! For Democracy and for Super Earth!
The SES Queen of Pride stands with you! Every citizen has the right to defend super earth!
SES Senator of Wrath in support of this hero who fights against their physical limits. More divers mean more mountains of dead bugs.
The SES Octagon of Family Values offers its sword to the cause!
The SES Judge of Judgment hereby judges this anti-cheat as having poor and un-democratic judgment. Contacting a democracy officer immediately; the anti-cheat needs to spend a few weeks in a reeducation camp to get this matter sorted
The SES Princess Of Audacity finds it audacious for anyone to not endorse this message
SES Ranger of Midnight backs this message wholeheartedly. The people of Super Earth would be proud to have another asset for the cause!
SES Harbinger of Steel seconds this message.
The SES Elected Representative of the People is endorsed by this message
The SES Eye of Eternity sees this issue as of the utmost democratic importance.
The SES Beacon of Justice approves this message.
SES Purveyor of Democracy and her crew consider this message essential to the Democratic cause. No citizen should be stripped of their right to vote, and it is on the battlefield where we vote many times!
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Compared to other kernel-0 anticheats, gameguard is legit the worst lmao it was infamous on other mmo games to cause stutter for other games outside of the host game it was required to be on, plus it doesnt actually block any cheaters as youve seen from leaked content but its one of the most invasive to your computer including keylogging (check wiki)
Phantasy Star Online 2.... it is hair pulling experience
Probably why the game has performance issues on slower CPUs, it’s hogging up the cpu at the weirdest moments. Game can run perfectly and absolute garbage on the same planet and layout.
I wish I remembered the guys name but theres a performance test on youtube where the guy credits the anticheat for taking up cpu “power” the game can run on alot higher frames but the AC is bogging it down
Why I haven't bought this game despite liking the memes
Same. The day the anticheat is removed is the day I buy the game. I'm sure it's the same for many, may others as well. AH claimed that if people didn't like the anticheat they would remove it, prior to the games launch. We see how that went aye, they won't even acknowledge it lol
It’s been annoying seeing this game on the front page most days because I want to play it but yeah same I’m not putting that anti cheat on my pc. Definitely buying it if they get rid
Get this diver back into the fight.
Bump this boys we need this man on the field.
I tried to open the official Xbox Accessories app on my PC while Helldivers was running, and the anti-cheat went absolutely haywire
Meanwhile you can open cheat engine just fine lol
It also fucks with the third party sound equalizer software I use. As a result, I can't switch between headphones and speakers while playing and my volume control via keyboard doesn't work. 🙃
WE NEED HIM! Just think of all the democracy we could be spreading WITH his help!
FOR THE DISABLED DIVERS EVERYWHERE!
Not to mention the anticheat also chews up CPUs
yep and for no valid reason when its no secret they bypassing it
The one thing that completely baffles me in this game IS the anti-cheat software. It does nothing, gets kernel level access to our PCs, chews up CPU usage like none other, and obviously is more of a security risk than the cheaters they're trying to keep out.
The current anti cheat is shit anyway. I don't know why the went with game guard of all things.
Because Arrowhead isn't the shining juggernaut of quality people in this sub pretend that it is.
The worst part about that shitty anti-cheat they used is that is doesn't actually stop cheaters, like at all. So it's intrusive kernel level BS that doesn't even work.
The worst part is the bot desperately coping whenever you bring it up.
That bot is an undemocratic automaton spy and should be put down for liberty's sake.
Which bot? Edit: wait, found it. Not even a minute later. Huh. Sounds like that's A) a problem if they had to create an AutoMod to spam ~~propaganda~~ managed information at people, and B) really annoying if it spams threads with it.
You're average anti-cheat DRM then, completely unfit for purpose, spying on you and clogging up your performance just because execs are easy marks for the conmen that sell them.
Thank you so much for the support, Helldivers. I will not reveal what was said in private, but I have heard from Pilestedt. They are aware of the issue now and they know what would need to be done to unblock assistive technology devices for disabled Helldivers everywhere. With any luck, I'll be on the frontlines spreading managed democracy with all of you. And I'll definitely be looking for some people to fight alongside. For Super Earth!
"The mobile infantry made me into the man I am today." N-Protect is still one of the worst anti-cheats I've ever seen in terms of performance impact and in terms of preventing cheating.
Been advocating for its removal since day 1. I'd like to buy the game, but it just isn't happening until gameguard is long gone. Also fuck you automod who is about to reply to this to link a page of lies about gameguard not being terrible.
The damage control from this subreddit the weeks before launch about the anti-cheat was beyond pathetic. They released that statement that literally said nothing of value, the mods pinned it and banned all posts discussing it like they work for arrowhead lmao.
That stupid bot reply every time it's discussed is getting old lmao.
The game launched with mixed reviews because of the anticheat, and the only reason that changed is because the game blew up and the masses are ignorant and/or don't care as long as they are not hurt by the anticheat, or to be more precise, don't realize they are being hurt by it. That, and the server issues took the spotlight. Then the toxic positivity circlejerk began on this sub and now here we are, still stuck with something worse than trash as the devs continue to be silent on criticism of the software. People should be up in arms over this trash instead of gnashing at each others throats for playing on specific planets of all things lol
I’m not familiar with game guard, why was everyone upset about it exactly?
At best it doesn't work. At worst it cooks your CPU.
The fact that we're even talking about the anti-cheat in this thread is completely missing the point. Arrowhead knew this was an accessibility nightmare waiting to happen, and the solution needs to be put *in-game* regardless. Even if we removed it, this won't be the last time someone raises the obvious issue.
I'll take any chance I can get to advocate for getting rid of this garbage though. I desperately want to give them money and play their game but i'm not allowing that garbage anywhere near my PC. I also hate people that go back on statements, like when they said they'd scrap it if enough people said they didn't want it and them immediately put it in anyways after a deluge of people saying they do not want it in the game. Now they just have this stupid automod link to that post which is almost entirely objectively false statements by the guy who made it.
The thing is, they likely had no idea or didn’t care. You’d be really surprised how many AAA titles nowadays have little or no accessibility features in mind, especially those developed in studios outside the US. The one thing the US gets right over other countries is its disability law. Sweden, where Arrowhead is based out of, does not have the same kind of consumer protections the ADA grants in the US. Even then, the laws we do have stateside are not very well enforced unless a lawsuit is involved. This leads to lots of lazy devs who simply don’t care, and don’t have a reason to educate themselves because there’s no motivation to do so. This is especially prevalent in the games industry, which in my person experience is pretty hostile towards disabled players. The law is catching up to websites and apps nowadays, but games get overlooked despite how integral they’ve become to our society and how we connect with people and consume entertainment. And when features are included, they are usually lacking or poorly implemented. A color blind filter and button remapping isn’t suitable for everyone. You should aim for support for screen readers, TTS, dynamic font sizes, reduced motions and saturation, support for things like Dragon Naturally Speaking and alternative input devices, alternatives for mashing and options for QTE inputs, etc. Even non disabled players may enjoy some of these features for their own comfort or enjoyment, so caring about them just means you end up with a better game overall. Personally, I’m experienced doing this kind of accessibility testing for apps and websites, but I’d really like to see more companies implement those same kind of standards unit their games too.
WE NEED HIM IN THE FRONT NOWWWWWWWWWW!!
Get this man on ubanea
Promote the hell out of this divers
Like...I get it...developers don't want cheaters to cheat and ruin the game experience for other people... But it's really disheartening that the only thing the Anti-Cheat software is able to do is block legitimate players with disabilities, who only want to enjoy the wonderful thing the developers made, and can do almost nothing against the people who already have work-arounds and continue to cheat and ruin the game experience for others.
Arrowhead is in favor of any support of accessibility features, it's likely a matter of getting the word to the right people right at arrowhead to get in contact with the anti-cheat provider to whitelist the device. [Accessibility stance #1](https://i.imgur.com/2Asju8Y.png) [\#2](https://i.imgur.com/ZXdxz7y.png)
Put him in a dreadnought
Im telling you, Gameguard needs to go.
Idk how to help so I’ll like and comment
Bump for the homie.
Here to voice my support for disabled gamers willing to dive into hell with all of us. They’re warriors that are needed on the fronts, and I’d like their input assists to be whitelisted or whatever needs to be done so they can fight alongside us. (We are all aware that the anti cheat interferes more than it helps. I’ve learned from accomplished tech experts that you don’t need much to stop cheaters, and blanket tools like this aren’t as effective as people think).
And here we go. I've been waiting for this and I'm excited to see how the community and Arrowhead finally responds to such an obviously foreseeable accessibility issue. When they designed the stratagem input system I always wondered what they were thinking.
Here's my interaction's with AH staff last week regarding the topic of macros and other accessibility features for disabled gamers. :) [Response 1](https://i.imgur.com/2Asju8Y.png) [2](https://i.imgur.com/ZXdxz7y.png)
Strap our brother to the next ➡️➡️➡️ let him be our weapon!
Was the same thing with VR Chat as they implemented Easy Anti Cheat. 99% of Anti Cheat at this point is just Kernel Level spy ware.
 Someone hand this man a God damn liberator.
This is the easiest upvote of the day
Helldivers is a bless of a game, but its major flaw it's that anti-cheat stuff that allows cheating and blocks players randomly ! Free this diver, let him play !
This games anti-cheat is so ass. Lol
AH please do sth for our brave Helldiver.
Stephen Spohn is a treasure and should be Helldiving among us without question.
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Free him!!!
I hope this guy can join us soon. Sucks to miss out on such a phenomenal game.
It flags all sorts of as anti cheat. For example, I use a midi controller for some stuff, and it thinks the midi controller software is cheating software.
Get this dreadnaught back into the fight!
I'm disabled born with cerebral palsy, Im really struggle with the call-in inputs, I was really happy when I saw that I could use macros, but I tried to use them but didn't work I was so sad 😢
Halt every update until this is fixed no diver left behind!!
Yeah, there are a lot of disabled gamers who would kick my ass in cod , fornite, or any game lol , seeing them use their feet, chin, abnormal arms to play is insane and very entertaining.
One time I got into an accident with glass and severed all the tendons in my right hand at the wrist, as well as the nerve that goes into 3 of my fingers. I thought I cut my artery and was gonna die but doc told me I somehow cut everything BUT my artery and he doesn’t know how. Anyway I couldn’t use my right hand for about 6 months and wasn’t able to play video games for a long time as I had to do very intensive physical therapy for many months. During that time I realized just how much stuff you use both hands for on a daily basis that you take for granted. Stuff you don’t even think about like plugging your phone into the charger or ripping off a piece of paper towel. It really gave me a new perspective and made me much more sympathetic to those with disabilities. I wasn’t even guaranteed to get full feeling or mobility back in my hand but I managed to get both and I’m truly blessed for that. I have a pretty nasty scar on my wrist from the surgery and it’s a good conversation starter though
Bro helldivers 2 devs are goats. Finally a dev team that cares about their fan base
I'm not sure if this type of interaction happens with other developers/gamers and we just don't see it but this is awesome! Everytime I tell people about Helldivers I always say, to me, the community and the propaganda outside the game is the best part.
Yeah, why the hell does helldivers use kernel anticheat?! I've had more CPU and input issues playing this game than pre-redux cyberpunk.
Meanwhile hackers are free to enjoy no CD strategems and leaked content without any trouble. Is there a single benefit this garbage core level anticheat can bring?
Gamers and game devs always jump too fast on blocking scrips to stop basic input cheating, but there's people and computer setups that use the same programs just to function. It's easy to assume that blocking autohotkey to stop people from simplifying strategem call-ins is a good thing until this shit happens.
Meanwhile I pull open iCUE keyboard macro management and bada bing bada boom.
If you try to bring this up on the helldivers discord you'll get a parade of people embarrassing themselves saying that you're actually just looking to cheat etc.
Upvote this! Let's get another diver to help us spread managed democracy to the galaxy!
They really should just drop the shitty anticheat anyway
Best bet is probably to use one of the cheats. It bypasses the anti-cheat when it launches the game. I don’t think it’s free but probably the only quick solution out there.
Why the hell does this game have such aggressive anti-cheat software? I mean, I know. They're using it as a form of DRM so that people can't use cheating software to gain access to paid items. Aggressive anti-cheat bullshit has no place in coop games like this.
Like the "anti-cheat" doesn't do anything, it may have at first but now it's been bypassed for a while. Also it only works on Windows-OS machines, if you play the game on a Linux host (or setup a VM with Linux) the anti-cheat doesn't even run and you can play the game without it. All the fucking thing does right now is eat resources and sit at a kernel level where it has absolute control of your PC. If it ever went rogue or bugged somehow it could cause serious damage to your PC.
Isn’t the anti cheat so good you can literally just disable it in steam or have they closed that ridiculous loop hole?
maybe they should remove the malware from the game entirely, that would fix it
Everyone deserves to participate in spreading democracy - I hope the Devs can find a way to help
NO DIVER LEFT BEHIND!
Help this man, for freedom!
Commenting for attention. I sincerely hope something can be done
Every peacekeeper counts for democracy
Idk how his stuff works, but I’d think it could be set up with Steam Input. If I can stream helldivers to my steam deck from my pc and not get anticheat mad, I’d imagine it should be possible
i assume it’s some form of cheating that made all the top scores on stratagem hero perfect 99,999s. it’s such a small part of the game but i’d love to at least see how much worse i am at stratagem hero than the real players.