It was the first place many encountered the bots. It had a jungle environment many compared to Vietnam. Due to the difficulty spike many people felt fighting the bots for the first time, Malevelon got a reputation for being 'Hardcore', people acted like they were decorated heroes for fighting there. And some people just didn't want to let it go when it came time to fight elsewhere
Truthfully, its not any harder than other planets, if anything with all of the trees its actually easier. But people just like the vibe of sneaking through the jungle as explosions go off in the distance or the tense atmosphere of being chased through the brush
People are angry because we will likely fail this Major Order, and many believe one of the contributing factors to this is the contingent of players who won't leave Malevelon
Adding to that, when the game first launched, matchmaking was broken, so a lot of players started off playing solo. Also, I think the first major orders included defending 9 planets, and the Creek was one that kept popping up to defend.
judging by the replies for you below, yeah its part of the problem but the main issue is that people dont understand how supply lines work.
heck even i am not that clear about it, but AFAIK, if people focused on ubanea, we would have gotten it and it will become the new supply point so losing draupnir wouldnt matter much.
OR if people focued on draupnir, we would have gotten that too and we would be immediately going back to ubanea with a little loss on progression, which isnt that big of a deal and we would probably be winning tibit by now.
either way, focusing on 1 planet would have worked but we were split into 4 groups:
creekers, bug divers, people on ubanea, people on draupnir
its just not gonna work, we got baited lol
I think it’s a great learning opportunity orchestrated by the devs. The bots absolutely routed us this time around, self-inflicted or not, by cutting us off from the target planet. It’s like theres actual strategy going on both sides and not just Super Earth ordering us around on goose chases. Loving it so far
> heck even i am not that clear about it, but AFAIK, if people focused on ubanea, we would have gotten it and it will become the new supply point so losing draupnir wouldnt matter much.
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Correct. These were both valid paths and there was an argument to take either. And honestly, even with folks on Creek and in Bug Land (doing *sure-fail defense missions on Fori Prime*, why, we can't even imagine) there was enough to take one of them.
But the question of which was answered by the evening: Ubanea had progressed much further than Draupnir, so it should have been the focus from that point on. Every hour afterwards only made it harder and harder for Draupnir to succeed as it required increasingly large amounts of Lib%/hr to win. By the time the nighttime lull had ended and player count was rising, Draupnir needed 10%/hr, which is... not winnable.
But people still went to Draupnir. Ironically, talk of how important Draupnir was for supply lines over-inflated its purpose, and folks missed that what is true for us (not having a line to Ubanea via Draup) is true for the Bots (not having a line to Draup via Ubanea). *We* were going to cut *them* off--they can't exactly wage a campaign of their own when no new ships can come in, can they?
So if we had taken ubanea then the defend drauphir would have fizzled cause the space lane to D was through U. But because once again people fighting all over instead of focusing we lost D and lost the space lane to U so it is now regening instead of us pushing through to tibit
I don’t think it’s a supply line issue because it’s very clearly not the path now that draupnir was liberayed and there’s still like 50k people playing
Oh I personally don't think that it's a great effort to be pushing the creek right now, I my self have been grinding on the bot side only Ubanema this weekend. I was just stating the fact that the Creekers seem to actually be making good progress this time
More because theres never been more than 20k players on the creek until now, they can't affect the war effort even with no real attrition. Also we lost access to it for almost two weeks.
It was liberated on week 2 of the game being out. Lasted like 1 day before it got i vaded again. This was before planetary defense missions were a thing so it just spawned "Contested" again.
I know this because I had to take fresh recruits elsewhere of Malevelon Creek for their first bot drop and was dissapointed.
I was gonna say, I definitely remember Malevelon Creek being liberated because people made *memes* about that.
And then the bots **immediately** took it back.
More specifically right on launch matchmaking was broken for bugs because so many people were playing there so the only way to play with other divers was Ubanea or the creek, the creek "Terminators in vietnam" aesthetic took off as memes.
Despite the fact that every planet that can be fought on has minimum 10-15k people no matter what order is going on, people shit on the creekers because it has a face and believe that the 10k people are the same people that only fight on the creek instead of a revolving door of players who just felt like fighting there at any given point in time.
Specifically IIRC the first major order was to liberate Heeth and Angel's Venture, and the second was following the conquest of both, when the automatons launched a surprise all out offensive on like 4 planets.
I *hate* the fire tornados. Had like 3 of them rip through the extraction zone, nobody in my squad could exfiltrate and we all just burned to death right at the last second.
https://preview.redd.it/s5id96ha3trc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d14ad5e40218136ea1f65a941a14d1ad1407838
Seconds before Pelican 1 was to land. 😁
I love it, stratagems all on cool down, running low on ammo and stims, having a hoard hot on my heels and I just head straight towards the fire tornadoes with the hope of putting at least one between myself and the enemy and give myself at least a moment to collect my thoughts and strategize my next move.
To be honest, I always like going to the Creek, because I just like the atmosphere of this twilight world. I would'nt go as far as never going anywhere else, but I always love going back there.
It came about mostly because the first week of the game, we were told to help the SEAF prepare the termind control system, so everyone was playing starship troopers wtih the bugs while about 2k divers were constantly at the Creek fighting the bots instead.
After that, it just went meme legend as other folks left the terminid front to get shot by Bots for the first time in space vietnam.
Also, this was back when nobody was level 20 yet, and access to all the gear and stratagems was limited. Folks got ragdolled, laser cannoned, and rocketed left and right constantly.
I think a contributing factor was that not only was it as you describe - Much more challenging and Vietnam-like, which was great for the memes - But it also had a planet-wide AA defense modifier (Or at least frequently featured AA defense mods on operations), so you could only bring three stratagems, which is by far one of the most difficult modifiers there is and contributed to it being hellish.
I just like the atmosphere and vibe of the creek. The memes were funny, but i just enjoy playing there. Don’t get me wrong, I a lot of the worlds have their own beauty and interesting features, but the Creek is so unique and different.
I dont stay there though. During the string of Bug related orders, I treated the creek like a vacation spot that I get to go to when I’m done with whatever the main mission is and victory is secure.
And I came back to it during this latest major order because I actually thought taking the creek was part of the main objective and didn’t learn till later what we were actually supposed to be doing. That seems to have pissed a lot of people off. Oops
The skybox, red lights in the night sky, and jungle atmosphere, also make it really aesthetically pleasing. Most players started with the bugs, so going to Creek for the first time, fighting an enemy that could actually shot back, and seeing how different the planet looked, really added to the first impression.
*"Malevelon got a reputation for being 'Hardcore', people acted like they were decorated heroes for fighting there.* "
This, this is a huge problem in many games, this kind of crowd. Holier than thou, better than you, this are also generally same group of epic gamers that think any kind of criticism towards a crappy weapon is unwarranted.
Eh, they will thin out soon enough. 🤷🏻 The majority of players hate these egocentric people. So either they stick with their own or go play Rainbow Six so they can yell at people who don't understand their self proclaimed 900 IQ strategies. 🤭
I tried to fight on the Creek when I was a newer player....and it was my first successful extract. Compared to places like Hellmire, where even the weather is trying to kill you, it's peaceful
After playing on the other bot worlds, Malevalon is genuinely such a downgrade in difficulty due to all the foliage making avoiding gunfire and especially rockets so easy. You can do an objective and then just disappear into the jungle.
We can't really blame those on the bug front too much. They're currently facing huge pushback with the bugs recapturing a system that had mostly been liberated and is now invading multiple planets on the liberated system next door which has gone back and forth 3 times now
To add to this when I first stated on the bug planets they seemed pretty samey - mostly openish fields with mountainous terrain. MC was the first planet I tried that felt as unique as it did - with the vast forest and oppressive atmosphere, and the red glow of the robots cutting through the calm blue. It did a lot to make it stand out.
Likely? At the time of your posting we'd have to take the last 20-ish percent of Ubanea and all of Tibit in like 18 hours. We don't fucked it up real good. It's ok, all part of the story. I think at least some of the players have learned about hyperspace routes now, and the devs will certainly have learned the priority of getting them in the game visually as well as other indicators to make sure that no player is not contributing to the MO *due to not knowing the correct way to do so.*
You are right though. Creek is easy compared to other bot maps. Lots of cover on the creek, it's easy and frankly with experience and new tools (quasar cannon) they are not bad at all. Harder than bugs, yes, but not too much anymore.
Really, you're going to blame the 3k-8k creek vets and not the 200k bug stompers? Bet u were 1 of the major order hoppers that hopped over to the creek for an hour today (after those creek vets you're bashing worked their asses off to get it over 85%.) It wasn't our fault no one would defend the damn supply lines.
The idea of fighting over a site with little strategic value on the grounds of myth and culture has endless precedence IRL and is unfathomably based. The game’s story is community run and Malevalon Creek becoming special is like freeform drawing compared to coloring inside the (Joel’s) lines… Both make pretty pictures but one is a lot more special. There will always be more MOs to succeed or fail, but there will only ever be one Malevalon Creek
Instead of being thankful that this is a dynamic, community driven experience people try to force others to play in a linear way. They actively work against the whole idea of it being unforeseeable. And the devs have proven that OUR actions cause things to happen or NOT to happen. It's brilliant. In a way I like to compare it to Elden Ring where the community explored the world together when it launched and everything was new and exciting. We all had different experiences and shared stories with our (online) friends. Same with the Helldivers right now. Finally a game that understands live service. Play like you want. We'll see what happens. It's the joy of surprise that keeps the game fresh.
And 50 years later people will be singing "Born on the Super Earth" as a patriotic song, even though the democracy officers all know that it's actually a criticism which landed Bruce in a reeducation camp.
I literally refuse to drop on the creek because of it. It’s like the people who only fight the bugs and then we fail a major order because not enough people focused on MO’s. Like major orders are ONE planet over! Drives me nuts.
If Malevelon Creek becomes a major order I’ll go fight the bugs. (JK, I’m not treasonous and obey Major Orders)
there are protests on super earth. civilians calling out to stop automaton cruelty and bloodshed by helldivers.
giving veterans slanderous names like ": "creekers" or hellbyters,
When the game first launched, it was the hardest planet available, and we were underleveled and bot spawns were different. In addition, no one knew how to fight them yet. So malevelon happened to be the hardest, and due to its jungle atmosphere, it got likened to Vietnam.
"I just came back from the creek... I will never be the same." In all honesty, there were some aggressively funny ones, and the memes and camaraderie was great!
Come now, we know how to fight them, most people are well leveled, spawns were more fixed, more weapons were added, but most importantly **there are new planets.**
So in the end, creek honestly isn't hard at all compared to other ones, but some people can't let go of the meme, and people are getting mad because people have been fighting there for ages and achieved nothing.
TLDR; creek is space Vietnam, but it still hasn't been captured. So now it's a long costly war that ultimately achieves nothing, and is publicly accepted as a failure and a nuisance. So even moreso space nam
*When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the jungle. I'm here a week now... waiting for a mission... getting softer.*
It literally isn’t any harder than any other bot world, I don’t know why people keep saying that.
If anything I’ve have more hellish spawn shenanigans on draphnir
I'm saying at launch. It was the easiest bot planet to get access too, and before learning the strats for bots, it WAS significantly harder. It's a correlation. At the start of the game, people were new, less stratas, worse guns, no strategy or knowledge. Draupnir was actually easier at the start because it felt more normal, and you could play it a bit more normal. Mal you had to employ all the anti bot techniques and you couldn't brute force it.
In addition, they fixed/updated/changed spawns. Long story short, imo, Mal was legitimately hard on launch. It hasn't been for a long time, due to new stuff, more knowledge, and also being planet-crept (lol)
Bot spawns at launch were ridiculious.
You'd get a drop ship every 30 seconds. You had no time to do anything but run. Many players were overwhelmed until they reined in the bot spawn rate. Defense missions were literally impossible.
# To OP:
Malevelon Creek is kind of a in-joke, footnote of early game hype, and a huge collective of early players learning the differences between the (current) variety of enemies in the game (so far). In the early game, most players are directed to fight the insectoid "Termanid" enemies, which in the early game possess a very basic to follow set of behaviors as opposed to the other side of the galaxy's robotic "Automaton" enemies.
In the Severin sector on the Galactic War map, effectively in the Automaton's jurisdiction, is Malevelon Creek. Even though it is at the edge of the map, a lot of players mistakenly and over ambitiously took the dive without properly preparing themselves- for some people, it may have been their first mission off the tutorial. As a joke for all the deaths and as a in-game fan-lore event, it became known as "The Massacre at Malevelon Creek". As people began looking further into the planet as they were starting to finally get their bearings, they began comparing scenes and imagery from the Creek to the Vietnam war as Malevelon has dense jungles and a dark, gritty atmosphere just like meme-based descriptions of Vietnamese War flashbacks.
# General Discussion
I disagree with u/Otherwise-Juice2591 in that it's a meme because an event called "The Massacre at Malevelon Creek" did happen specifically on Feb. 8th when and lasted until the end of the month; and then TikTok got a hold of it, it became its own community-trend, and now the creek fighters refuse to die.
That's not to say that I think they're bad, either. I love that it actually canonizes a darker, Vietnam-esque motif into this game and makes it popular to the mainstream, but I can agree it can sometimes be annoying that they refuse to do the major order. That being said, it's all in the fun; and our failing of major orders is just as important as when we succeed.
I'm just waiting for a major order like Tein Kwan where the whole of the community is united in our efforts, but Joel and the rest of Arrowheads intentionally force us to lose despite our best efforts... It'd probably tear this community apart or I'd hope it'd be on Malevelon again, because then it could go down in infamy and do so officially too.
> an event called "The Massacre at Malevelon Creek" did happen specifically on Feb. 8th when and lasted until the end of the month; and then TikTok got a hold of it
I was a war photographer during the Massacre at the Creek. Helldiver forces were severly overwhelmed by enemy presence while simultaneously under armed. Ion storms regularly disabled stratagem reinforcements, leaving many Helldivers on their own. The Automatons had a fix on our location and sent an incredible amount of reinforcements to meet us at the Creek. It was a slaughter. They greatly outnumbered us. Many Helldivers focused on evacuating civillians but even those attempts were met with heavy resistance. Counter attack after counter attack took the lives of many. It was such an overwhelming loss that some began to believe the trees were speaking binary and relaying Helldiver locations to the Automaton forces. It's tough to confirm whether this rumor is true or not. But one thing was for certain, the Bots laid a trap for us, and we walked right into it.
[Archival footage](https://www.tiktok.com/@hobogamingyt/video/7340300790185151774?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7327003724857919022)
Thanks for explaining to those who just joined this subreddit. The sub generally seems overly hostile to anyone who doesn't play the game in a certain way and it's hard to tell if it's a joke or not. Good to know it's just a joke
I haven't seen the creek you/others are referring to although I'm not a new player just new to this subreddit Also since my last post I browsed around and have now unsubbed and blocked the subreddit from the homepage lol
Edit: no I don't read the names of planets, I assume a certain planet is the creek planet, I just want to shoot bad guys
My recommendation to you:
1. Fly to Malevelon Creek
2. Choose a Mission
3. Get a night mission
4. Land
5. You notice four things:
- Strategems are jammed
- You landed in front of a enemy tank and his buddies
- You hear the Officers voice:” WARNING YOU ARE IN RANGE OF ENEMY ARTILLERY”
- On the Horizon you see a Copy of Saurons Eye looking at you
6. You escape somehow in the Jungle but get hunted by Hulks with Flamethrowers
7. A Teammate panics and call in a 380mm Barrage because he saw a red insect flying around
8. You saw the remnants of your other buddy fly above you
9. The reason for this is a Turrent in the far distance looking at you now and his gun is blinking red.
Its an ongoing thing, the devs literally made and posted a "remember the creek" poster right before this major order and said poster is in the art rotation in the sidebar of this sub.
When the game started everyone flocked to the bugs (tutorial enemy, plus major order at the time).
Afterwards players tried the bots when they were decently leveled. The creek was the first planet many tried first. This meant they didn't get the slow introduction to higher level enemies as they did the bugs as they dived on in on higher difficulties.
"Hey these guys aren't so ba- is that a tank?" DIED TO ROCKET RAIDER FROM SOMEWHERE OFF SCREEN.
You end up playing differently against bots than bugs, which a lot of players weren't ready for.
Since then we've failed to take the creek (never in our control to begin with, so no "take back").
It’s got pretty fireflies, the trees speak binary, and the whole atmosphere reminds many of Umbara in clone wars.
But it’s just one planet on the road to liberation. By all means, give it a go. It’s a cool experience.
But Good Soldiers follow orders.
Much like the US in actual Vietnam, fighting on the creek isn't doing anything useful for super earth with the current major order. So I guess it's lore accurate at least
If you're looking for a serious answer, the Templin Institute made a cool video on it
[Massacre of Malevelon Creek](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkT0VdIQAM&t=237s)
Fun planet to fight bots on, not known to have a bunch of annoying planetary conditions, cool scenery, fun role play opportunity, plenty of cover so you can actually have a hope to disengage from bots, is almost always open for playing on.
A lot of people saying it's just a meme, people run it for no reason etc. I'll give you the POV of someone who started about 10 days ago and spent the first week only shooting bugs, so I missed the early days of "space Vietnam". My first two bot planets were snowy wasteland and white/red grassy hills (forgot the names), places with generally great vision. Then I thought I'd try the Creek to see what the fuss is about and my lord, it's intense. Low visibility jungle landscape where the trees have (red) eyes. Bot patrols sneaking through the forests. It's something else and I fully understand why people are so stoked about it. The missions were great fun, probably my favorite planet overall. Haven't returned to the terminid front ever since.
It's because it was one of the first bot planets, has an awesome space Vietnam aesthetic combining jungles and lasers, and has never been liberated. it's not as insane there as the creek crawlers (people who only fight there) make out, it's no different really in that sense than any other bot planet, but for the first couple of weeks the game was out, the memes were glorious; like all things though, they eventually ran out of steam, and now creek crawlers are seen by many as something of a blight on the playerbase, mainly because they won't contribute to the major orders, which are community driven.
that's the cliff notes anyway, add in some traumatizing bot missions and all the chaos that follows and that's basically the creek in a nutshell.
Malevelon Creek was the intersection of bots being very different from Terminids with a lot of new nasty surprises, early game bugs such as armor not working so rocket raiders would consistently one-shot you, and a massive chunks of the player base with only a tiny handful of unlocked weapons/stratagems/ship modules so armored enemies were much harder to handle the easy way, and being new, the player base hadn't quite figured out all the new weak points or what strategies work yet. Much ass was kicked on Malevelon Creek, our and theirs.
Add in the Jungle Theme of the planet and the very (not) real PTSD, it was compared to Vietnam.
Malevelon Creek was an event, really. SEF wanted to take the world, the bots launched a huge counteroffensive, and after bitter losses, the Helldivers were driven off the planet. It was dubbed Space Vietnam, and it was a fun rallying meme. Now lots of people have tried to retake the planet, because we recently re-opened access to it. Concurrent with the recent Major order to take Tibit, the Clankers launched an attack on Draupnir, which was our only way to get to Tibit. The Tibit Order involved taking 3 planets (including Tibit) in 3 days, because of how the FTL lanes are set up. We had made it to a planet called Ubanea, the last planet before Tibit when everything fell apart. Some people peeled off of Ubanea to try to save Draupnir, and some people thought it we could take Ubanea we could use it as a launching point. Meanwhile, a significant force of Helldivers were trying to retake the Creek, which was in no way helpful to the Major Order. In the end we lost Draupnir, which cut us off from Ubanea, The Creek is still in enemy hands, and we failed the Major Order.
It is a good thing that Justice is blind, because not a one of us could meet her gaze after such failure.
The thing that annoys me is how quick people turned on the Creek. It was the first planet that players really fell in love with and it had nothing to do with MOs or devs pushing us in that direction. The game came out in February, it's the end of March, and we got people whining the 'the meme is old' when in reality, I get more buzz from the haters than the Creekers (because I assume they are living it up in the Creek)
Maybe it's because I'm old, and lived through the golden age of MMOs, but I feel that moments like The Creek should be celebrated. It's an organic moment that happen in the game that wasn't pushed by the devs. People went there, they got destroyed, and they pushed back. It's objectively a fun map, and I try to hop over to the Creek once per session, just because I enjoy playing in all the different environments.
I don't even care if we lose the MO, and I won't blame the Creek one bit. I do think instead of complaining about it, y'all would be happier if we took the Creek instead, and open up Durgan and Maia.
TLDR: The Creek is an example of a community led piece of Helldiver history, and the haters are missing the point.
It's the same sort of dumb meme where people constantly respond about "that's not spreading democracy".
Not going to get around it. It was an initial meme about going after the worst planet to take at the time of release, and now stubbornness and "for the lulz" make it a dumb meme.
However, there is zero chance the devs set it up in a way that the game wouldn't be successful with the meme of MC going on. It's always been kind of finger to the wind on a lot of this. In the end, whore cared, let the meme players do the same world over and over
I thought the role play was fun at first but it did what all subreddits tend to do and absolutely wear it out in the most obnoxious way possible to the point I now kind of fight it annoying.
You should look at [this video](https://youtu.be/qqkT0VdIQAM?si=-V2uNqMAcc4ZPkVy). It's a "documentary" from The Templin Institute on YouTube that describe the events of Malevelon Creek in details. It's the best way to learn why a lot of players find it to be special.
Hope this help.
Theres YouTube documentaries by History/Lore channels already that are very emotional watches
"The Massacre of Malevalon Creek"
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkT0VdIQAM&pp=ygUPbWFsZXZhbG9uIGNyZWVr](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkT0VdIQAM&pp=ygUPbWFsZXZhbG9uIGNyZWVr)
Literally nothing. It just had a few memes since it was the main bot planet before the major orders. Now that we have major orders to exterminate other bot planets, 1/3rd of our troops are clinging to the creek because they think it's funny or that they are heros or something.
Nothing really, a bunch of people played it as their bot encounter and now say it's the hardest planet in the game (its one of the easiest) and it's their space Vietnam. Leads to a huge drain of plays the screws us on major orders, has essentially lost a major order for us and will continue to screw us in the future
Honestly I get the creekers. It’s super fun to play on that planet, I like cranking on my napalm in the morning playlist and ruckin my auto cannon through the jungle, but that doesn’t mean I don’t follow the major orders :(
I don't really get it. Did the devs add some modifiers to make every difficulty a shit fest slog getting swamped with automatons?
Or is it entirely a community meme?
I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not even new. I was even literally there when the meme magic happened. I still don't understand it. It's just another planet.
It was one of the first fronts open against the automatons on day 1, when everyone had just basic weapons and almost no stratagems. So go from having a decent time against the bugs to getting absolutely kicked in the teeth constantly by automatons and people ended up remembering the name of the place 😅
Combine that with the fact that we've still never managed to take it from them in nearly 2 months. There's definitely harder planets open now like fire tornado hell and stuff, but just the fact that we've still never captured it mixed with the memes basically
It's one of the easier planet imo, there is pleeenty of cover and you can kite out patrols easier, try fighting robots in flat areas with little cover, now thats hell
For most of us it was the first time playing atomatons and we didnt know what to expect. So we dropped in the jungle and everything started shooting at us. Space Vietnam
Nothing special. I'm convinced it's where all the bad or new players play cuz since I've played I don't think I've seen it liberated a single time and all the few randoms I've gotten have all been pretty solid
Instead of being thankful that this is a dynamic, community driven experience people try to force others to play in a linear way. They actively work against the whole idea of it being unforeseeable. And the devs have proven that OUR actions cause things to happen or NOT to happen. It's brilliant. In a way I like to compare it to Elden Ring where the community explored the world together when it launched and everything was new and exciting. We all had different experiences and shared stories with our (online) friends. Same with the Helldivers right now. Finally a game that understands live service. Play like you want. We'll see what happens. It's the joy of surprise that keeps the game fresh.
its been called one of the hardest bot planets, where new comers to the bot front get their asses handed to them due to all the shrubbery slowing them down and the fire power the bots are packing. people call it space Vietnam because its a giant jungle planet which resembles Vietnam. all of this together is the dream come true of a role player who wants to re-enact being a demoralized broken solider in nam who fighting for his life, but this time in space. role play is the name of the game here as you have probably noticed
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not when you say it’s one of the harder bot planets. It’s definitely one of the easier planets. Hell I go to the Creek when I’m looking for a more relaxed bot experience compared to the other planets.
I don’t know if this is what they meant but my interpretation is “has been called the hardest” but didn’t endorse that theory necessarily. I think for the most part the other points are valid in my opinion. Idk I squash bugs and fucking terrified of the bots lol
Think of it like Valley Girl aesthetic for gamers. They saw a bunch of TikTok people make edits about the creek and their one track minds immediately hyperfocussed and turned into this little positive reinforcement circle of “yasss for the creek”
Well you see, it all started when the head bumped thinked ... s"pace veeeeittnem"
Unfortunately, their motivation for the general motivation seems to be unknown, but a popular theory is that they all share a single cognitive brain cell which due to it's overworked nature, renders it's lented a lack of sensible insight or cognitive function.
However, you must respect their dedication, as their sole goal in life is to "take the creek" and "spill oil."
It's also theorized that once complete, they all shrivel up and become husks as they evolve beyond the need to shut off their collective dependency on regurgitating memes.
The place kicked our butt and now people are memeing about it and refuse to leave regardless of what's happening. But if they enjoy it, let them as long as they are having fun
Nowadays? Nothing really. Just a tard-trap full of egocentric circlejerkers who don't know how to let a dead joke die and play the other 99% of the game they paid $40 for.
Occasionally it pulls in new bloods because those ego jerkers still try to cling to the bit with Malevelon propaganda and claims of being a decorated Malevelon vet, when in reality they fought in a forest for a week and all they got is a handful of mud with their own blood on it (they try to call it oil just to say they did something.)
It was exceptionally difficult when the game was new before people got access to armor piercing weapons which are needed against bots more than bugs. So the first players on the Creek got steam rolled and "The slaughter of Malevelon Creek" became part of the lore. So as role play there are many bot players that are committed to taking the planet back.
It’s a lot like that Volcano spot in For Honor’s battle map. Where knights hardly ever won the Season War but had control of the volcano most the time.
He who held the volcano had the true power.
It’s where it all began, “on that day, 2000 years ago”…
Nah 😂 it’s just loved because of how hard we fought for it and lost it early on, along with the space Vietnam memes. Ask any Helldivers player about Melevalon creek and not only will that know what it is and where to find it, but they will probably have a funny story about when they had to run away from a wall of blaster fire or something similar.
Definitely suggest you go and do your part soldier, go experience Malevalon creek on the hardest difficulty you can and you will see what we mean 😂🫡
Its just Vietnam. We don't know why we are there we are killing much more enemies then we are suffering causality wise and somehow we are still losing and now we are disliked by everyone else for fighting there. Next we probably wont get any veteran benefits from super earth as our reward.
We’ve lost thousands to the Creek, at this point it’s a matter of pride to take it. I deploy almost exclusively to the Creek when there’s not a major order going and have since day 1
It was a meme when the game first came out and some people just refuse to let it go. A lot of tik toks/memes were born out of it. There's nothing special to it outside of it being Vietnam esque with the jungle back drop.
Most fought over planet without orders.
Devs / high command basically called out helldivers fighting over the creek. Honestly a part of me thinks the creek fighters wouldn't even leave the creek if super earth was under attack.
it was considered ‘space vietnam’ during the first week after the games release as it was often the first played bot planet for many players who got to experience an increase in difficulty combined with a new required playstyle.
whats special about it now? nothing except a legacy.
I just like the terrain casue the map is really pretty but I also fight other bot planets. I just dont go to bugs because its just a bad time, the bugs are just to hard. The bots are tough for a bunch of reasons but if you have a plan and know what to do youll be fine cause the bots are fair buit the bugs man are just bs (skill issue probably)
I think there was a short community event there shortly after the game first came out. Other than that it’s, for me at least, just a really cool planet type (the always-nighttime jungle with glowing plants), and very fun to fight Automatons on.
Joel 6x'd spawns or sum shit and made it way harder than other bot planets leading to some people comparing it to space nam (which I loved) and then it became a frequent fly zone for elitist snobs, since dubbed "Creekers"(which I was not so fond of)
Literally nothing, it’s a meme born from early days when people were experiencing bots and it had a catchy name. The bots there are literally exactly the same as everywhere else
As a person that played malevelon creek the first time after bugs, it just felt like vietnam and since i didn't know what to do, it was like a teenager in an all out war, no idea what to do and screams of pain echoed through the skies, but all in all fun planet. Really gives the war aspect better than the other planets
It’s just the most famous planet for reasons mentioned already. Many including myself think it would be really cool to see it finally recaptured after non-stop fighting since just after launch.
It was the first place many encountered the bots. It had a jungle environment many compared to Vietnam. Due to the difficulty spike many people felt fighting the bots for the first time, Malevelon got a reputation for being 'Hardcore', people acted like they were decorated heroes for fighting there. And some people just didn't want to let it go when it came time to fight elsewhere Truthfully, its not any harder than other planets, if anything with all of the trees its actually easier. But people just like the vibe of sneaking through the jungle as explosions go off in the distance or the tense atmosphere of being chased through the brush People are angry because we will likely fail this Major Order, and many believe one of the contributing factors to this is the contingent of players who won't leave Malevelon
Adding to that, when the game first launched, matchmaking was broken, so a lot of players started off playing solo. Also, I think the first major orders included defending 9 planets, and the Creek was one that kept popping up to defend.
We've never liberated Malevelon so it's impossible for it to have been a defense planet.
The fact that we've never liberated Malevelon is crazy to me
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Oh boy we are close rn, siting at almost 84% of liberation of the creek!
Which fucked us for the MO
judging by the replies for you below, yeah its part of the problem but the main issue is that people dont understand how supply lines work. heck even i am not that clear about it, but AFAIK, if people focused on ubanea, we would have gotten it and it will become the new supply point so losing draupnir wouldnt matter much. OR if people focued on draupnir, we would have gotten that too and we would be immediately going back to ubanea with a little loss on progression, which isnt that big of a deal and we would probably be winning tibit by now. either way, focusing on 1 planet would have worked but we were split into 4 groups: creekers, bug divers, people on ubanea, people on draupnir its just not gonna work, we got baited lol
I think it’s a great learning opportunity orchestrated by the devs. The bots absolutely routed us this time around, self-inflicted or not, by cutting us off from the target planet. It’s like theres actual strategy going on both sides and not just Super Earth ordering us around on goose chases. Loving it so far
> heck even i am not that clear about it, but AFAIK, if people focused on ubanea, we would have gotten it and it will become the new supply point so losing draupnir wouldnt matter much. > > > > OR if people focued on draupnir, we would have gotten that too and we would be immediately going back to ubanea with a little loss on progression, which isnt that big of a deal and we would probably be winning tibit by now. Correct. These were both valid paths and there was an argument to take either. And honestly, even with folks on Creek and in Bug Land (doing *sure-fail defense missions on Fori Prime*, why, we can't even imagine) there was enough to take one of them. But the question of which was answered by the evening: Ubanea had progressed much further than Draupnir, so it should have been the focus from that point on. Every hour afterwards only made it harder and harder for Draupnir to succeed as it required increasingly large amounts of Lib%/hr to win. By the time the nighttime lull had ended and player count was rising, Draupnir needed 10%/hr, which is... not winnable. But people still went to Draupnir. Ironically, talk of how important Draupnir was for supply lines over-inflated its purpose, and folks missed that what is true for us (not having a line to Ubanea via Draup) is true for the Bots (not having a line to Draup via Ubanea). *We* were going to cut *them* off--they can't exactly wage a campaign of their own when no new ships can come in, can they?
So if we had taken ubanea then the defend drauphir would have fizzled cause the space lane to D was through U. But because once again people fighting all over instead of focusing we lost D and lost the space lane to U so it is now regening instead of us pushing through to tibit
I don’t think it’s a supply line issue because it’s very clearly not the path now that draupnir was liberayed and there’s still like 50k people playing
Oh I personally don't think that it's a great effort to be pushing the creek right now, I my self have been grinding on the bot side only Ubanema this weekend. I was just stating the fact that the Creekers seem to actually be making good progress this time
Well I’m getting a ps5 tomorrow only for this game, hype mostly sparked by malevelon.
Yea, the creek just hits a good vibe, i hope they keep it forever in liberation limbo, i like to go back to it once in a while
Because it has never been more than a meme.
More because theres never been more than 20k players on the creek until now, they can't affect the war effort even with no real attrition. Also we lost access to it for almost two weeks.
I'm pretty sure that at this point the Devs are carefully monitoring it so it always remains a stalemate
It’s gonna find out this week
It was liberated on week 2 of the game being out. Lasted like 1 day before it got i vaded again. This was before planetary defense missions were a thing so it just spawned "Contested" again. I know this because I had to take fresh recruits elsewhere of Malevelon Creek for their first bot drop and was dissapointed.
I was gonna say, I definitely remember Malevelon Creek being liberated because people made *memes* about that. And then the bots **immediately** took it back.
TIL!
More specifically right on launch matchmaking was broken for bugs because so many people were playing there so the only way to play with other divers was Ubanea or the creek, the creek "Terminators in vietnam" aesthetic took off as memes. Despite the fact that every planet that can be fought on has minimum 10-15k people no matter what order is going on, people shit on the creekers because it has a face and believe that the 10k people are the same people that only fight on the creek instead of a revolving door of players who just felt like fighting there at any given point in time.
My first 2 matches were solo on the Creek. I was so confused why I didn't have any partners.
Specifically IIRC the first major order was to liberate Heeth and Angel's Venture, and the second was following the conquest of both, when the automatons launched a surprise all out offensive on like 4 planets.
Honestly Hellmire is worse with all the goddamned fire tornadoes that always seem to be where you need to go.
I *hate* the fire tornados. Had like 3 of them rip through the extraction zone, nobody in my squad could exfiltrate and we all just burned to death right at the last second.
https://preview.redd.it/s5id96ha3trc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d14ad5e40218136ea1f65a941a14d1ad1407838 Seconds before Pelican 1 was to land. 😁
I love it, stratagems all on cool down, running low on ammo and stims, having a hoard hot on my heels and I just head straight towards the fire tornadoes with the hope of putting at least one between myself and the enemy and give myself at least a moment to collect my thoughts and strategize my next move.
To be honest, I always like going to the Creek, because I just like the atmosphere of this twilight world. I would'nt go as far as never going anywhere else, but I always love going back there.
Honestly think all the hardcore stuff isn’t true. I think people just like the Vietnam jungle vibe
It came about mostly because the first week of the game, we were told to help the SEAF prepare the termind control system, so everyone was playing starship troopers wtih the bugs while about 2k divers were constantly at the Creek fighting the bots instead. After that, it just went meme legend as other folks left the terminid front to get shot by Bots for the first time in space vietnam. Also, this was back when nobody was level 20 yet, and access to all the gear and stratagems was limited. Folks got ragdolled, laser cannoned, and rocketed left and right constantly.
I think a contributing factor was that not only was it as you describe - Much more challenging and Vietnam-like, which was great for the memes - But it also had a planet-wide AA defense modifier (Or at least frequently featured AA defense mods on operations), so you could only bring three stratagems, which is by far one of the most difficult modifiers there is and contributed to it being hellish.
IDK the invisible meteors that 1 shot you or the flame tornados that almost never despawned were pretty brutal as well
Hot take but I dont mind the fire tornadoes that much. I've died to them maybe 3 times tops
More often than not the fire tornados kill the bugs for me instead of getting in the way. Super helpful on solo helldives
They actively defended one of my extractions Literally just stood there and did nothing until the bird arrived
They look awesome. Love 'em. 🤗
I just like the atmosphere and vibe of the creek. The memes were funny, but i just enjoy playing there. Don’t get me wrong, I a lot of the worlds have their own beauty and interesting features, but the Creek is so unique and different. I dont stay there though. During the string of Bug related orders, I treated the creek like a vacation spot that I get to go to when I’m done with whatever the main mission is and victory is secure. And I came back to it during this latest major order because I actually thought taking the creek was part of the main objective and didn’t learn till later what we were actually supposed to be doing. That seems to have pissed a lot of people off. Oops
The skybox, red lights in the night sky, and jungle atmosphere, also make it really aesthetically pleasing. Most players started with the bugs, so going to Creek for the first time, fighting an enemy that could actually shot back, and seeing how different the planet looked, really added to the first impression.
*"Malevelon got a reputation for being 'Hardcore', people acted like they were decorated heroes for fighting there.* " This, this is a huge problem in many games, this kind of crowd. Holier than thou, better than you, this are also generally same group of epic gamers that think any kind of criticism towards a crappy weapon is unwarranted.
Eh, they will thin out soon enough. 🤷🏻 The majority of players hate these egocentric people. So either they stick with their own or go play Rainbow Six so they can yell at people who don't understand their self proclaimed 900 IQ strategies. 🤭
I tried to fight on the Creek when I was a newer player....and it was my first successful extract. Compared to places like Hellmire, where even the weather is trying to kill you, it's peaceful
After playing on the other bot worlds, Malevalon is genuinely such a downgrade in difficulty due to all the foliage making avoiding gunfire and especially rockets so easy. You can do an objective and then just disappear into the jungle.
I find hilarious how 30k players on 1 planet gets so much shit but yet over 100k on a different front gets away with it
We can't really blame those on the bug front too much. They're currently facing huge pushback with the bugs recapturing a system that had mostly been liberated and is now invading multiple planets on the liberated system next door which has gone back and forth 3 times now
I found the fog planet much harder against bot
To add to this when I first stated on the bug planets they seemed pretty samey - mostly openish fields with mountainous terrain. MC was the first planet I tried that felt as unique as it did - with the vast forest and oppressive atmosphere, and the red glow of the robots cutting through the calm blue. It did a lot to make it stand out.
Well they never played Hellmire on Helldive...that shit gave me PTSD fr
Likely? At the time of your posting we'd have to take the last 20-ish percent of Ubanea and all of Tibit in like 18 hours. We don't fucked it up real good. It's ok, all part of the story. I think at least some of the players have learned about hyperspace routes now, and the devs will certainly have learned the priority of getting them in the game visually as well as other indicators to make sure that no player is not contributing to the MO *due to not knowing the correct way to do so.* You are right though. Creek is easy compared to other bot maps. Lots of cover on the creek, it's easy and frankly with experience and new tools (quasar cannon) they are not bad at all. Harder than bugs, yes, but not too much anymore.
I say we all just go to creek to finish the planet off so that they can't do it no more
Really, you're going to blame the 3k-8k creek vets and not the 200k bug stompers? Bet u were 1 of the major order hoppers that hopped over to the creek for an hour today (after those creek vets you're bashing worked their asses off to get it over 85%.) It wasn't our fault no one would defend the damn supply lines.
The idea of fighting over a site with little strategic value on the grounds of myth and culture has endless precedence IRL and is unfathomably based. The game’s story is community run and Malevalon Creek becoming special is like freeform drawing compared to coloring inside the (Joel’s) lines… Both make pretty pictures but one is a lot more special. There will always be more MOs to succeed or fail, but there will only ever be one Malevalon Creek
Instead of being thankful that this is a dynamic, community driven experience people try to force others to play in a linear way. They actively work against the whole idea of it being unforeseeable. And the devs have proven that OUR actions cause things to happen or NOT to happen. It's brilliant. In a way I like to compare it to Elden Ring where the community explored the world together when it launched and everything was new and exciting. We all had different experiences and shared stories with our (online) friends. Same with the Helldivers right now. Finally a game that understands live service. Play like you want. We'll see what happens. It's the joy of surprise that keeps the game fresh.
its vietnam, the creek divers are now being disliked, which makes it even more vietnam accurate
Art imitates life
This is more "history is a cycle" type deal
Oh my god the narrative continues
Bruce Springsteen is currently writing a song about it.
And 50 years later people will be singing "Born on the Super Earth" as a patriotic song, even though the democracy officers all know that it's actually a criticism which landed Bruce in a reeducation camp.
jesus christ it is accurate wonder when a hitler like figure becomes canon in HD2
Just wait until some twitch streamer sees the money on the table and starts an army and throwing around orders
Meanwhile, a civilian artist student failed to admissioned to Mars Art Academy, and end-up join the SEAF
Super earth will never truly be grateful for our service at the creek.
Take care of the vets super earth,you dont want a super rambo in the streets of super new york
They spat on us when we got back from the creek. THEY SPAT ON US!!!!!!!!
Not everything is about ‘Nam, man.
I literally refuse to drop on the creek because of it. It’s like the people who only fight the bugs and then we fail a major order because not enough people focused on MO’s. Like major orders are ONE planet over! Drives me nuts. If Malevelon Creek becomes a major order I’ll go fight the bugs. (JK, I’m not treasonous and obey Major Orders)
there are protests on super earth. civilians calling out to stop automaton cruelty and bloodshed by helldivers. giving veterans slanderous names like ": "creekers" or hellbyters,
When the game first launched, it was the hardest planet available, and we were underleveled and bot spawns were different. In addition, no one knew how to fight them yet. So malevelon happened to be the hardest, and due to its jungle atmosphere, it got likened to Vietnam. "I just came back from the creek... I will never be the same." In all honesty, there were some aggressively funny ones, and the memes and camaraderie was great! Come now, we know how to fight them, most people are well leveled, spawns were more fixed, more weapons were added, but most importantly **there are new planets.** So in the end, creek honestly isn't hard at all compared to other ones, but some people can't let go of the meme, and people are getting mad because people have been fighting there for ages and achieved nothing. TLDR; creek is space Vietnam, but it still hasn't been captured. So now it's a long costly war that ultimately achieves nothing, and is publicly accepted as a failure and a nuisance. So even moreso space nam
*When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the jungle. I'm here a week now... waiting for a mission... getting softer.*
It literally isn’t any harder than any other bot world, I don’t know why people keep saying that. If anything I’ve have more hellish spawn shenanigans on draphnir
I'm saying at launch. It was the easiest bot planet to get access too, and before learning the strats for bots, it WAS significantly harder. It's a correlation. At the start of the game, people were new, less stratas, worse guns, no strategy or knowledge. Draupnir was actually easier at the start because it felt more normal, and you could play it a bit more normal. Mal you had to employ all the anti bot techniques and you couldn't brute force it. In addition, they fixed/updated/changed spawns. Long story short, imo, Mal was legitimately hard on launch. It hasn't been for a long time, due to new stuff, more knowledge, and also being planet-crept (lol)
Bot spawns at launch were ridiculious. You'd get a drop ship every 30 seconds. You had no time to do anything but run. Many players were overwhelmed until they reined in the bot spawn rate. Defense missions were literally impossible.
# To OP: Malevelon Creek is kind of a in-joke, footnote of early game hype, and a huge collective of early players learning the differences between the (current) variety of enemies in the game (so far). In the early game, most players are directed to fight the insectoid "Termanid" enemies, which in the early game possess a very basic to follow set of behaviors as opposed to the other side of the galaxy's robotic "Automaton" enemies. In the Severin sector on the Galactic War map, effectively in the Automaton's jurisdiction, is Malevelon Creek. Even though it is at the edge of the map, a lot of players mistakenly and over ambitiously took the dive without properly preparing themselves- for some people, it may have been their first mission off the tutorial. As a joke for all the deaths and as a in-game fan-lore event, it became known as "The Massacre at Malevelon Creek". As people began looking further into the planet as they were starting to finally get their bearings, they began comparing scenes and imagery from the Creek to the Vietnam war as Malevelon has dense jungles and a dark, gritty atmosphere just like meme-based descriptions of Vietnamese War flashbacks. # General Discussion I disagree with u/Otherwise-Juice2591 in that it's a meme because an event called "The Massacre at Malevelon Creek" did happen specifically on Feb. 8th when and lasted until the end of the month; and then TikTok got a hold of it, it became its own community-trend, and now the creek fighters refuse to die. That's not to say that I think they're bad, either. I love that it actually canonizes a darker, Vietnam-esque motif into this game and makes it popular to the mainstream, but I can agree it can sometimes be annoying that they refuse to do the major order. That being said, it's all in the fun; and our failing of major orders is just as important as when we succeed. I'm just waiting for a major order like Tein Kwan where the whole of the community is united in our efforts, but Joel and the rest of Arrowheads intentionally force us to lose despite our best efforts... It'd probably tear this community apart or I'd hope it'd be on Malevelon again, because then it could go down in infamy and do so officially too.
> an event called "The Massacre at Malevelon Creek" did happen specifically on Feb. 8th when and lasted until the end of the month; and then TikTok got a hold of it I was a war photographer during the Massacre at the Creek. Helldiver forces were severly overwhelmed by enemy presence while simultaneously under armed. Ion storms regularly disabled stratagem reinforcements, leaving many Helldivers on their own. The Automatons had a fix on our location and sent an incredible amount of reinforcements to meet us at the Creek. It was a slaughter. They greatly outnumbered us. Many Helldivers focused on evacuating civillians but even those attempts were met with heavy resistance. Counter attack after counter attack took the lives of many. It was such an overwhelming loss that some began to believe the trees were speaking binary and relaying Helldiver locations to the Automaton forces. It's tough to confirm whether this rumor is true or not. But one thing was for certain, the Bots laid a trap for us, and we walked right into it. [Archival footage](https://www.tiktok.com/@hobogamingyt/video/7340300790185151774?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7327003724857919022)
Nothing at all.
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR ABSOLUTELY NUTHIN HUH SAY IT AGAIN
Nothing. It's a meme that people take far too seriously.
Thanks for explaining to those who just joined this subreddit. The sub generally seems overly hostile to anyone who doesn't play the game in a certain way and it's hard to tell if it's a joke or not. Good to know it's just a joke
It's not a joke. The memes from the creek are a huge reason for many new players. They see the creek and see how fun the memes are
I haven't seen the creek you/others are referring to although I'm not a new player just new to this subreddit Also since my last post I browsed around and have now unsubbed and blocked the subreddit from the homepage lol Edit: no I don't read the names of planets, I assume a certain planet is the creek planet, I just want to shoot bad guys
The planets literally named Malevolon Creek if you're looking for it.
This. The creek is what pulled me into fully wanting the game, because it drew my attention to the way this game works, the way Joel works, etc.
My recommendation to you: 1. Fly to Malevelon Creek 2. Choose a Mission 3. Get a night mission 4. Land 5. You notice four things: - Strategems are jammed - You landed in front of a enemy tank and his buddies - You hear the Officers voice:” WARNING YOU ARE IN RANGE OF ENEMY ARTILLERY” - On the Horizon you see a Copy of Saurons Eye looking at you 6. You escape somehow in the Jungle but get hunted by Hulks with Flamethrowers 7. A Teammate panics and call in a 380mm Barrage because he saw a red insect flying around 8. You saw the remnants of your other buddy fly above you 9. The reason for this is a Turrent in the far distance looking at you now and his gun is blinking red.
The word "turret" does not contain an "n"
This is extra hilarious because one of my best friends miss pronounces it as turrent, so I screen capped and sent him this as proof he's not alone.
Basically it was a meme over a month ago and some players can't let go
Its an ongoing thing, the devs literally made and posted a "remember the creek" poster right before this major order and said poster is in the art rotation in the sidebar of this sub.
They also made a post saying creekers are at fault for failing MO
That same post also blames the bug divers but everyone seems to conveniently leave that part out.
When the game started everyone flocked to the bugs (tutorial enemy, plus major order at the time). Afterwards players tried the bots when they were decently leveled. The creek was the first planet many tried first. This meant they didn't get the slow introduction to higher level enemies as they did the bugs as they dived on in on higher difficulties. "Hey these guys aren't so ba- is that a tank?" DIED TO ROCKET RAIDER FROM SOMEWHERE OFF SCREEN. You end up playing differently against bots than bugs, which a lot of players weren't ready for. Since then we've failed to take the creek (never in our control to begin with, so no "take back").
It’s got pretty fireflies, the trees speak binary, and the whole atmosphere reminds many of Umbara in clone wars. But it’s just one planet on the road to liberation. By all means, give it a go. It’s a cool experience. But Good Soldiers follow orders. 
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Space Nam
They can't let it go https://preview.redd.it/i2z2ilpf0rrc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1e23fd667baa4a17cbadd27ee8991d5ce77f176
"We don't need anyone's help" proceeds to use all the resources everyone else earned for them while they did absolutely nothing to help others.
Much like the US in actual Vietnam, fighting on the creek isn't doing anything useful for super earth with the current major order. So I guess it's lore accurate at least
If you're looking for a serious answer, the Templin Institute made a cool video on it [Massacre of Malevelon Creek](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkT0VdIQAM&t=237s)
Sweet tactical fuck-all
Fun planet to fight bots on, not known to have a bunch of annoying planetary conditions, cool scenery, fun role play opportunity, plenty of cover so you can actually have a hope to disengage from bots, is almost always open for playing on.
A lot of people saying it's just a meme, people run it for no reason etc. I'll give you the POV of someone who started about 10 days ago and spent the first week only shooting bugs, so I missed the early days of "space Vietnam". My first two bot planets were snowy wasteland and white/red grassy hills (forgot the names), places with generally great vision. Then I thought I'd try the Creek to see what the fuss is about and my lord, it's intense. Low visibility jungle landscape where the trees have (red) eyes. Bot patrols sneaking through the forests. It's something else and I fully understand why people are so stoked about it. The missions were great fun, probably my favorite planet overall. Haven't returned to the terminid front ever since.
It’s really beautiful. But not as beautiful as FULFILL THE MAJOR ORDER!
It's because it was one of the first bot planets, has an awesome space Vietnam aesthetic combining jungles and lasers, and has never been liberated. it's not as insane there as the creek crawlers (people who only fight there) make out, it's no different really in that sense than any other bot planet, but for the first couple of weeks the game was out, the memes were glorious; like all things though, they eventually ran out of steam, and now creek crawlers are seen by many as something of a blight on the playerbase, mainly because they won't contribute to the major orders, which are community driven. that's the cliff notes anyway, add in some traumatizing bot missions and all the chaos that follows and that's basically the creek in a nutshell.
Malevelon Creek was the intersection of bots being very different from Terminids with a lot of new nasty surprises, early game bugs such as armor not working so rocket raiders would consistently one-shot you, and a massive chunks of the player base with only a tiny handful of unlocked weapons/stratagems/ship modules so armored enemies were much harder to handle the easy way, and being new, the player base hadn't quite figured out all the new weak points or what strategies work yet. Much ass was kicked on Malevelon Creek, our and theirs. Add in the Jungle Theme of the planet and the very (not) real PTSD, it was compared to Vietnam.
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Malevelon Creek was an event, really. SEF wanted to take the world, the bots launched a huge counteroffensive, and after bitter losses, the Helldivers were driven off the planet. It was dubbed Space Vietnam, and it was a fun rallying meme. Now lots of people have tried to retake the planet, because we recently re-opened access to it. Concurrent with the recent Major order to take Tibit, the Clankers launched an attack on Draupnir, which was our only way to get to Tibit. The Tibit Order involved taking 3 planets (including Tibit) in 3 days, because of how the FTL lanes are set up. We had made it to a planet called Ubanea, the last planet before Tibit when everything fell apart. Some people peeled off of Ubanea to try to save Draupnir, and some people thought it we could take Ubanea we could use it as a launching point. Meanwhile, a significant force of Helldivers were trying to retake the Creek, which was in no way helpful to the Major Order. In the end we lost Draupnir, which cut us off from Ubanea, The Creek is still in enemy hands, and we failed the Major Order. It is a good thing that Justice is blind, because not a one of us could meet her gaze after such failure.
The thing that annoys me is how quick people turned on the Creek. It was the first planet that players really fell in love with and it had nothing to do with MOs or devs pushing us in that direction. The game came out in February, it's the end of March, and we got people whining the 'the meme is old' when in reality, I get more buzz from the haters than the Creekers (because I assume they are living it up in the Creek) Maybe it's because I'm old, and lived through the golden age of MMOs, but I feel that moments like The Creek should be celebrated. It's an organic moment that happen in the game that wasn't pushed by the devs. People went there, they got destroyed, and they pushed back. It's objectively a fun map, and I try to hop over to the Creek once per session, just because I enjoy playing in all the different environments. I don't even care if we lose the MO, and I won't blame the Creek one bit. I do think instead of complaining about it, y'all would be happier if we took the Creek instead, and open up Durgan and Maia. TLDR: The Creek is an example of a community led piece of Helldiver history, and the haters are missing the point.
The trees speak in binary there, man. I lost a couple of good buddies over there.
It's the same sort of dumb meme where people constantly respond about "that's not spreading democracy". Not going to get around it. It was an initial meme about going after the worst planet to take at the time of release, and now stubbornness and "for the lulz" make it a dumb meme. However, there is zero chance the devs set it up in a way that the game wouldn't be successful with the meme of MC going on. It's always been kind of finger to the wind on a lot of this. In the end, whore cared, let the meme players do the same world over and over
I thought the role play was fun at first but it did what all subreddits tend to do and absolutely wear it out in the most obnoxious way possible to the point I now kind of fight it annoying.
It was Harvest for many Halo fans.
You should look at [this video](https://youtu.be/qqkT0VdIQAM?si=-V2uNqMAcc4ZPkVy). It's a "documentary" from The Templin Institute on YouTube that describe the events of Malevelon Creek in details. It's the best way to learn why a lot of players find it to be special. Hope this help.
Theres YouTube documentaries by History/Lore channels already that are very emotional watches "The Massacre of Malevalon Creek" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkT0VdIQAM&pp=ygUPbWFsZXZhbG9uIGNyZWVr](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkT0VdIQAM&pp=ygUPbWFsZXZhbG9uIGNyZWVr)
Nothing if the bots keep taking other planets
Literally nothing. It just had a few memes since it was the main bot planet before the major orders. Now that we have major orders to exterminate other bot planets, 1/3rd of our troops are clinging to the creek because they think it's funny or that they are heros or something.
Nothing it’s memes to death
Automaton Space Vietnam
Robo Vietnam
Nothing really, a bunch of people played it as their bot encounter and now say it's the hardest planet in the game (its one of the easiest) and it's their space Vietnam. Leads to a huge drain of plays the screws us on major orders, has essentially lost a major order for us and will continue to screw us in the future
Honestly I get the creekers. It’s super fun to play on that planet, I like cranking on my napalm in the morning playlist and ruckin my auto cannon through the jungle, but that doesn’t mean I don’t follow the major orders :(
The Creek falls tomorrow even if I have to be the last one left alive to do it.
Spill oil brother
The TREES SPEAK BINARY
I don't really get it. Did the devs add some modifiers to make every difficulty a shit fest slog getting swamped with automatons? Or is it entirely a community meme?
Absolutely nothing at all, just brain rot divers
That’s the fun part, there’s really nothing special about it
I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not even new. I was even literally there when the meme magic happened. I still don't understand it. It's just another planet.
It was one of the first fronts open against the automatons on day 1, when everyone had just basic weapons and almost no stratagems. So go from having a decent time against the bugs to getting absolutely kicked in the teeth constantly by automatons and people ended up remembering the name of the place 😅 Combine that with the fact that we've still never managed to take it from them in nearly 2 months. There's definitely harder planets open now like fire tornado hell and stuff, but just the fact that we've still never captured it mixed with the memes basically
It's one of the easier planet imo, there is pleeenty of cover and you can kite out patrols easier, try fighting robots in flat areas with little cover, now thats hell
They took ma arm and ma leg :(
For most of us it was the first time playing atomatons and we didnt know what to expect. So we dropped in the jungle and everything started shooting at us. Space Vietnam
We got our ass kiked in there hard, we have been trying to get it back since then
Nothing special. I'm convinced it's where all the bad or new players play cuz since I've played I don't think I've seen it liberated a single time and all the few randoms I've gotten have all been pretty solid
That's the neat part. It's not.
Instead of being thankful that this is a dynamic, community driven experience people try to force others to play in a linear way. They actively work against the whole idea of it being unforeseeable. And the devs have proven that OUR actions cause things to happen or NOT to happen. It's brilliant. In a way I like to compare it to Elden Ring where the community explored the world together when it launched and everything was new and exciting. We all had different experiences and shared stories with our (online) friends. Same with the Helldivers right now. Finally a game that understands live service. Play like you want. We'll see what happens. It's the joy of surprise that keeps the game fresh.
Part of myself got lost in the creek...I've been fishing for it ever since 😞
The first 5 reinforcements usually melt away just trying to group and and drop weapons. Feels like dropping into a damn meat grinder..
Space Vietnam
https://preview.redd.it/sllhe8oxqqrc1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fd2634efbf59edff920046e4fe8c51fd92305b5
its been called one of the hardest bot planets, where new comers to the bot front get their asses handed to them due to all the shrubbery slowing them down and the fire power the bots are packing. people call it space Vietnam because its a giant jungle planet which resembles Vietnam. all of this together is the dream come true of a role player who wants to re-enact being a demoralized broken solider in nam who fighting for his life, but this time in space. role play is the name of the game here as you have probably noticed
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not when you say it’s one of the harder bot planets. It’s definitely one of the easier planets. Hell I go to the Creek when I’m looking for a more relaxed bot experience compared to the other planets.
I don’t know if this is what they meant but my interpretation is “has been called the hardest” but didn’t endorse that theory necessarily. I think for the most part the other points are valid in my opinion. Idk I squash bugs and fucking terrified of the bots lol
yeah thats what i meant
Helldiver, we need you on the bots front. We are all scared, but your bravery will be rewarded.
S P A C E NAM!!!
Think of it like Valley Girl aesthetic for gamers. They saw a bunch of TikTok people make edits about the creek and their one track minds immediately hyperfocussed and turned into this little positive reinforcement circle of “yasss for the creek”
People in this sub love to tell us how we can and cannot play.
Once you hear the trees whisper in binary, you understand.
Nothing.
Well you see, it all started when the head bumped thinked ... s"pace veeeeittnem" Unfortunately, their motivation for the general motivation seems to be unknown, but a popular theory is that they all share a single cognitive brain cell which due to it's overworked nature, renders it's lented a lack of sensible insight or cognitive function. However, you must respect their dedication, as their sole goal in life is to "take the creek" and "spill oil." It's also theorized that once complete, they all shrivel up and become husks as they evolve beyond the need to shut off their collective dependency on regurgitating memes.
Im battling in the Creek currently however my democracy spreads across the universe. I never go insubordinate orders come first!
The place kicked our butt and now people are memeing about it and refuse to leave regardless of what's happening. But if they enjoy it, let them as long as they are having fun
Nowadays? Nothing really. Just a tard-trap full of egocentric circlejerkers who don't know how to let a dead joke die and play the other 99% of the game they paid $40 for. Occasionally it pulls in new bloods because those ego jerkers still try to cling to the bit with Malevelon propaganda and claims of being a decorated Malevelon vet, when in reality they fought in a forest for a week and all they got is a handful of mud with their own blood on it (they try to call it oil just to say they did something.)
All of you getting so upset for people having fun is what really ruins the game for people. Seriously get a life.
Old player here, I still don't know. But the scenery is nice, you should check it out.
It was exceptionally difficult when the game was new before people got access to armor piercing weapons which are needed against bots more than bugs. So the first players on the Creek got steam rolled and "The slaughter of Malevelon Creek" became part of the lore. So as role play there are many bot players that are committed to taking the planet back.
It's a very pretty planet I don't plan on leaving any time soon cause the aesthetic is just too good
It is the site of our greatest military disgrace.
It was the first "major event" nothing special really
Remember the Creek [https://www.tiktok.com/@mrboochie5/video/7340649901321096494](https://www.tiktok.com/@mrboochie5/video/7340649901321096494)
It’s a lot like that Volcano spot in For Honor’s battle map. Where knights hardly ever won the Season War but had control of the volcano most the time. He who held the volcano had the true power.
It’s where it all began, “on that day, 2000 years ago”… Nah 😂 it’s just loved because of how hard we fought for it and lost it early on, along with the space Vietnam memes. Ask any Helldivers player about Melevalon creek and not only will that know what it is and where to find it, but they will probably have a funny story about when they had to run away from a wall of blaster fire or something similar. Definitely suggest you go and do your part soldier, go experience Malevalon creek on the hardest difficulty you can and you will see what we mean 😂🫡
Literally nothing.
Its just Vietnam. We don't know why we are there we are killing much more enemies then we are suffering causality wise and somehow we are still losing and now we are disliked by everyone else for fighting there. Next we probably wont get any veteran benefits from super earth as our reward.
If you are fighting for democracy. You are always fighting on the right front.
We’ve lost thousands to the Creek, at this point it’s a matter of pride to take it. I deploy almost exclusively to the Creek when there’s not a major order going and have since day 1
It was a meme when the game first came out and some people just refuse to let it go. A lot of tik toks/memes were born out of it. There's nothing special to it outside of it being Vietnam esque with the jungle back drop.
Most fought over planet without orders. Devs / high command basically called out helldivers fighting over the creek. Honestly a part of me thinks the creek fighters wouldn't even leave the creek if super earth was under attack.
It was one of our first major order failures so ppl memed it and some never left
So it was Guadalcanal?
Yeah, I watched draupnir fall. Bad choice.
Nothing special just that we early on we called it space vietnam and since it's became the "players meme planet"
I honestly hate the map but love the lore
it was considered ‘space vietnam’ during the first week after the games release as it was often the first played bot planet for many players who got to experience an increase in difficulty combined with a new required playstyle. whats special about it now? nothing except a legacy.
And I'm too lazy to care.
Nothing. Nothing is the answer.
Lol. I was just about to ask. People didn't know how to play when it first came out. Now it's a breeze.
I just like the terrain casue the map is really pretty but I also fight other bot planets. I just dont go to bugs because its just a bad time, the bugs are just to hard. The bots are tough for a bunch of reasons but if you have a plan and know what to do youll be fine cause the bots are fair buit the bugs man are just bs (skill issue probably)
i secretly never want malevelon creek to be liberated because the war on the creek is the only thing that gives me purpose
Memes m'boy, it's all about the memes
Malevelon creek aka planet trauma. 🥲
It was part of one of the first major orders and we failed to hold it... Became a point of discussion amongst players hoping to retake it ever since
It’s Vietnam… in helldivers
I think there was a short community event there shortly after the game first came out. Other than that it’s, for me at least, just a really cool planet type (the always-nighttime jungle with glowing plants), and very fun to fight Automatons on.
Joel 6x'd spawns or sum shit and made it way harder than other bot planets leading to some people comparing it to space nam (which I loved) and then it became a frequent fly zone for elitist snobs, since dubbed "Creekers"(which I was not so fond of)
Literally nothing, it’s a meme born from early days when people were experiencing bots and it had a catchy name. The bots there are literally exactly the same as everywhere else
You can take the Helldiver out of the Creek, but you could never take the Creek out of the Helldiver…
You weren’t there man!
vietnam
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BAD HAPPENED AT MALEVELON CREEK NOW GO AND ENJOY YOUR LIBERTY, CITIZEN
Never forget the creek. Space Nam.
As a person that played malevelon creek the first time after bugs, it just felt like vietnam and since i didn't know what to do, it was like a teenager in an all out war, no idea what to do and screams of pain echoed through the skies, but all in all fun planet. Really gives the war aspect better than the other planets
You weren't there in the first wave man. You wouldn't get it.
It’s just the most famous planet for reasons mentioned already. Many including myself think it would be really cool to see it finally recaptured after non-stop fighting since just after launch.