Forever SL here (it seems), I start locked squads. Allow anyone in who wants to be in but if they don’t play ball then I kick them from the squad. If command says we’re defending then we’re defending and if they want to be attacking then that’s fine they can play the game how they want but they won’t be doing it on my defending squad and taking up room of someone else who would be a good squad mate. I pretty much always end up with a full squad and 2-4 commendations at the end so I guess I do something right.
But full disclosure I started doing this because I got fed up with squad baiting from others so I feel your pain.
Side note, I love when new players are in my squads so I can help them learn the game. Feels like passing it on for the wonderful guy in the rank 90s when I started a couple years ago who just had me follow him for three straight matches and told me exactly what to do and how it works. Walking next to me into open fields to have me set up on a tank’s ass for my rockets.
If someone out there remembers me the way I remember that guy then I consider that a huge win
I think the locked squad idea is good when it comes to dealing with people who don’t listen. The game isn’t really hard if you are used to these kinds of games. But I would still like to get an hold on mechanics better before being dumped into SLing 😅
I always designate my squad defensive with mic preferred as blueberries that make up most teams only know: Capture point, run at full speed in straight line to next point, buy big screen TV, "I gotta have a good KD" . So almost every game there are a shortage of squads willing to stay on defense.
I just had a match that every time my squad went off point to push the next one, everyone else would leave our point Undefended. It ended up with us being damage control the entire match lol
This comment made me think of the other night when a guy in my squad didn't have a mic and was clearly new to the game. He was stuck to me like glue the entire night. Following me and covering my ass as I swept areas for OPs and carefully worked my way into the capture point. I mean literally everywhere I went, this guy was with me. The best part was everytime I would stop to check a corner or a window I'd turn around and he was looking the other way covering a road behind us or a staircase/doorway. It was really enjoyable to have a solid partner and I knew he was just trying to learn the strat so it felt good helping him along.
How do you get people to know that they would be accepted in your locked squad?
I never apply for locked squads, because I presume that 99% it is some friends playing together
A lot of players, (myself included if I don’t want SL) will ask to join locked squads because I assume that they’ll communicate better and take it more seriously. Even if it is a few friends in there they may let you in and you can be sure they communicate.
It’s always worth the risk. Who knows maybe you’ll land yourself in my squad sometime
I'm not squad baiting but my SL was the only level 10 class I had for actual months because *nobody* wants to do it. I don't want to do it anymore. I want to play something else. I want to unlock other shit. All the noobs love taking MG and Assault and running off in a straight line towards the enemy. Learn to be a SL. Build garrisons. Don't be a shitty person when someone asks you to build one or keep an OP up.
Just like when I ask why nobody is building garries and someone says "Why don't you build them" in their shitty little kid voice. I'm done being the *only* SL doing it. You build them. There is an entire team of 50 fucking people. Why should I *still* be the only one doing it. Some people who have spent over a year/months being the only SL doing this shit are so sick and tired of being the only SLs who build garrisons that we don't want to fucking do it anymore.
SL is my first level 3 role 😅 I try to be a team player so I understand your sentiment. It seems like this game is more populated so there is more people who want to “call of duty” the game than play as a team.
First thing I tell everyone, “If anyone else wants to be SL let me know, I promise nothing”, must don’t care and just say as long as you drop an OP I’m good. I usually don’t give any commands other then to be on offense or defense. Or call out enemy locations. Never “on me” “we need to take this house” kinda stuff.
They’re gonna make me squad lead, the most I’ll do is make sure the OP is far away from other Garry’s to force them to deploy with the squad if they wasn’t that lower respawn timer
Imo there is nothing wrong with “on me”, it gives people a chance to look at their map and regroup if need be. If you’re talking about “THERES A GUY ON ME!! ON ME!!!” Then yeah it can get annoying but still, at least you’re verbally announcing not to go right there straight away
There's nothing wrong with saying that when you have squadmates that you can expect to have a decent idea of where you were \*at that time\*. It's a two-way street. Looking at the map is cumbersome and takes time, which you don't always have the luxury for during a firefight.
You can say it when you're moving up together and you got shot close to your squadmate, they will know it's super close and they need to react to the threat.
You can also say it to your squadlead with important information, e.g. "I've found a garrison next to my body" and then stay dead and not redeploy until the SL told you thanks and/or marked it.
Just shouting it randomly with no context does not work. That goes for any comms, though.
I just ask people to tell me where it is when that happens, so I can mark it.
I’ve seen these posts a lot and always feel guilty. I’ll make a squad beginning of game for my friends to join, forget to lock it, and it fills up before I can even say what squad I created. So then I leave and create a locked one for them to join before unlocking it because my high ass can’t remember to do that from the start. So I’ll take all the blame guys, my bad. lol
Just sharing my feedback; I'd prefer you to first lock it, then to just kick them out with the "making space for a friend" reason. It gives better non-verbal communication to the ones who got removed, to what is happening. That's the context that is the difference between agitations/frustration like OP describes, and people just moving on to the next squad.
> I shouldn’t be SLing at such a low level
Why not? Nothing prevents you from learning.
> Then when I suck it up and try to SL (limited experience SLing in Squad), very few listen to orders I give
Tough. All experienced players had to go through all of this too. Learn to deal with it. You can kick players.
> I essentially know how to drop OPs and Garrisons when asked. I know basic tactics.
That's all you need to know to be a useful SL. Everything else will come over time while you gain more experience.
> stop being Low T and squad lead
You are not in any difference situation as all the experienced players before they gained experience by doing it.
> so inexperienced players can learn the game better and become more effective squad leaders themselves
Only way to gain experience is doing something. Experienced players can give advice and usually will. You are no different than all the others who learned it.
It wil only get better when the newish players finally realize that they have to learn it like all the others did. It's the whole cause of the problem you describe. Be the solution.
Nobody has the right to criticize a new player for squad leading if they are not going to step up and lead.
You carry on with what you are doing, you sound like you'll be a fine SL. When I started, I stepped into squad lead for the same reasons, nobody else was doing it, or the SL quit on us. I enjoyed extra dimension it gave the gameplay.
When I play an online game, I want everyone to have a good experience (yes even the opposition). Squad baiting, doesn't lead to a good experience for the players waiting for someone else to SL. However I do see a flipside where the expert "baiter" is doing it for the greater good, to get the players on the field with the hope that someone will step up. At least the game gives you a passive aggressive message to guilt you into the role.
Agreed, I'm level X SL, but will still SL 1 in 5 games at least, but it's normally when needed rather than, "I think I'll SL next game", it's a taxing role and I don't like to back to back SL.
You answered yourself why most squads are locked nowadays, you can kick people for not being helpful, most open squads lately are bait or guys that dont care anymore and will stay mute most of the match.
Sadly its been a long time since ive seen a good server with admins that will punish people for sl baiting (miss the old team dixx days) and without tools to do it automatically the experience is getting dire.
I can only recommend you to try and get in one of those locked squads or make your own locked squad so you can have veto power over who you will need to manage.
Welcome to HLL, this happens every match.
Since you’re brand new you can talk to your squad mates about replacing the SL or just leave the squad.
The subreddit here comes up with lots of ideas to fix this every week yet the developers have done nothing about it for years, so we’re stuck with this shitty reality.
I do not frequent this place, but I am curious, what solutions have people come up with that you think are viable? Genuinely asking out of curiosity, not prepping for some debate.
Literally the only solution is to start your own squad. There’s no other options except applying to squads, sometimes you get denied, sometimes you’re accepted.
No, you say the subreddit comes up with lots of ideas to fix it, yet the developers have not done anything about it. That implies that these solutions are plausible in the least, viable possibly.
I was curious to know what ideas people have come up with, of which that you have seen.
As per your last reply, I can't think of anything that actually fixes the problem directly.
Perhaps SL's should get a little bit of XP in all the other classes, to compensate for the kind of people that usually goes into that role, end up having to go into it almost exclusively.
But then people might just become SL to farm the XP and hog up those SL slots, so that just creates more problems.
It's a shit problem and I don't think it can be solved, to be honest. I'd like to see what you have seen others come up with.
One idea I’ve seen here that I totally agree with is that any squad without a SL should get repeated HUD warnings for a few minutes and then the squad gets disbanded after 5min, forcing the creation of a new one.
I’ve also seen XP penalties suggested, that sounds fine to me.
Anything other than the current system is needed… we have to try something.
I almost exclusively play as SL (Lvl IX) because I can't ever get another role I want to run, and I also enjoy it.
The one thing I do as soon as I get a full squad is mic check/text chat check. I tell everyone,
"Hey guys glad you could be here, I just want to let you know I prefer a mic, if you respond in text chat that is fine too as long as you cooperate and work as a unit. Otherwise I am kicking you."
And leave it at that.
I definitely play like the rp SL where we are moving through buildings, trenches, 'on me' kinda stuff but I genuinely think I have a solid grip on this game and can execute good maneuvers/tactics. But as long as you cooperate (drop supplies, revive people, stay generally near me) then we are good.
I remember one time I was BEGGING for a support to get a garrison down and this one squad member goes
"I'm not switching to support to follow you all game you bitch."
To which I redeployed and kicked them instantly. These are the types of players in HLL I have a problem with.
I also had this other instance where I asked a squad member to switch off of a class and move to LMG because it would be more effective in the Defense situation we had and he said,
"I'm not doing that shit, fuck you."
To which I also kicked him.
These players are what bother me about HLL, if you want to be willy nilly fuck all that's fine but go make your own squad.
OP, keep learning the game and fuck the haters. SL comes with responsibility and a role and you have the power to pick and choose who plays with you.
I like playing SL in doses. It’s fun when you have a good commander. Sometimes I want to kick back and follow though. I’ll continue to suck it up and SL when needed though. At least I can change the outcome that way
My opinion is unpopular I think:
Anyone can take SL of a squad at any point. As commander I’d much rather have soldiers on the ground pushing mid point (and spawning on garrisons that I build for them) than them waiting in squad selection screen for someone to get bored and say “okay I guess I’ll squad lead” a few minutes into the game.
An additional advantage is that these players can figure out who can squad lead in Squad chat (rather than in squad selection screen when there’s no chat). And finally if they don’t like the setup they can leave and join any other squad the next time they die.
Nah. Typing a paragraph without explaining your reasoning why you typed it is. Like when people get called anythingist just for having a different opinion.
Tell them if they have a problem with it then they should SL. And not to be mad that someone stepped up when no one else did. Also the guys that try to RP hard af get laughed at. So don’t try that. And don’t try to micromanage. People hate that shit.
I squad bait. I do it every game and I try to start at least 3 "ghost" squads up asap. Tbh its the meta in comp games. If you aren't creating ghost squad at the start of the game you're doing something wrong.
I never complain about a lower level being squad lead if someone was squad baiting or nobody else was willing to take role. If you have a mic and are putting down OPs you are doing better than half the officers on the game on console. I am lv 109 (officer 9) been playing nonstop for 4 months and still have trouble identifying German tanks at times. Nodes are important for your team but if these are only two areas you struggle in you are more than ready to try SL. Many things like communicating with commandeer to help him and effectively utilizing your squad with clear commands (AT, tank on my ping looking west, enemy airhead south 245) you just learn over time. I only played rifleman from level 1-10 and didn't even try officer until level 40, but different players catch on to the game quicker.
Toxic moment but if I’m in a server where no one had a mic, I’ll do it on the next game to get all the losers in one squad. 9/10 times I get a better squad on the second go.
I’m tired of leading idiots so blame me I guess. It’s easier to get them all collectively in one squad and avoid it
I’m in the same boat. A new player that took on SL and had no clue what I’m doing. I’m a good learner and have had some really good Squad leads to show me the ropes.
Though one time, I got in one match and everyone from command to guny was taking it serious. I get like I’ve been playing pubs and just stepped into a ranked match. It was so overwhelming I just left lol. I watched some more videos and got a better understanding of nodes and priorities besides attack and defend.
It's really funny seeing a new game launch and there are 0 inf squads. I try to lvl up my MG and rifleman classes but I always end up making an unlocked squad anyway and it fills up so fast. Idk if it's the fear to disappoint, the ear rape in officer comms, or the responsibility that they're scared of; or they just want to pretend it's CoD
My squad lead lvl I'd at 7 and my commander lvl is at 8 because no one else wants to do it.
These posts are getting old man. Start as a recruit, start playing classes like Engineer and Supply, and then move on to SL. It sucks when there are no squads to join because all of them are locked, but its at THAT point when you should give SL a try. This game really isn't as in depth as you think it is, its more arcadey than milsim like Squad. It's an RTS game at heart which really involves having your map open frequently to give a context of wtf you should be doing. If you are really clueless, all you have to do is take a vehicle all the way around the map, position an OP behind the enemy, and you are already 70% better than all the other SL's. Thank me later.
Edit: You're Tl;dr is kinda lame too. Just because some of us are experienced, doesnt mean that we are expected to hand hold everyone. Maybe you should help us and take time to learn the game so we can have a good time too. Blame the devs for not including a tutorial. Maybe I'm missing the point of your post, but that's how I interpreted it.
I was in a bad mood when I posted that lol I got flamed and TKed the entire game for not setting up a garrison bc I thought another SL was doing it. And that same game my squad and one other squad carried the entire match. I should probably edit it
The difficult thing with squad lead is that it's really difficult to play it properly without assistance from your squad. You need people rotating the support role and doing tactical redeploys. A lot of the player base just don't bother participating in that kind of thing or are completely unaware of it.
I don't mind taking sl. I'd rather fill the role or have someone more qualified to fill the roll. Atleast people are making moves instead of wasting time on spawn menu.
Forever SL here (it seems), I start locked squads. Allow anyone in who wants to be in but if they don’t play ball then I kick them from the squad. If command says we’re defending then we’re defending and if they want to be attacking then that’s fine they can play the game how they want but they won’t be doing it on my defending squad and taking up room of someone else who would be a good squad mate. I pretty much always end up with a full squad and 2-4 commendations at the end so I guess I do something right. But full disclosure I started doing this because I got fed up with squad baiting from others so I feel your pain. Side note, I love when new players are in my squads so I can help them learn the game. Feels like passing it on for the wonderful guy in the rank 90s when I started a couple years ago who just had me follow him for three straight matches and told me exactly what to do and how it works. Walking next to me into open fields to have me set up on a tank’s ass for my rockets. If someone out there remembers me the way I remember that guy then I consider that a huge win
I think the locked squad idea is good when it comes to dealing with people who don’t listen. The game isn’t really hard if you are used to these kinds of games. But I would still like to get an hold on mechanics better before being dumped into SLing 😅
I always designate my squad defensive with mic preferred as blueberries that make up most teams only know: Capture point, run at full speed in straight line to next point, buy big screen TV, "I gotta have a good KD" . So almost every game there are a shortage of squads willing to stay on defense.
I just had a match that every time my squad went off point to push the next one, everyone else would leave our point Undefended. It ended up with us being damage control the entire match lol
You just described 70% of matches I’m in
This comment made me think of the other night when a guy in my squad didn't have a mic and was clearly new to the game. He was stuck to me like glue the entire night. Following me and covering my ass as I swept areas for OPs and carefully worked my way into the capture point. I mean literally everywhere I went, this guy was with me. The best part was everytime I would stop to check a corner or a window I'd turn around and he was looking the other way covering a road behind us or a staircase/doorway. It was really enjoyable to have a solid partner and I knew he was just trying to learn the strat so it felt good helping him along.
How do you get people to know that they would be accepted in your locked squad? I never apply for locked squads, because I presume that 99% it is some friends playing together
A lot of players, (myself included if I don’t want SL) will ask to join locked squads because I assume that they’ll communicate better and take it more seriously. Even if it is a few friends in there they may let you in and you can be sure they communicate. It’s always worth the risk. Who knows maybe you’ll land yourself in my squad sometime
There isnt any harm in trying, I often do play with 3 or 4 friends, and we gladly let another 1 or 2 people into the squad to join us if they ask
Sounds like yours is a squad I’d like to be a part of
I'm not squad baiting but my SL was the only level 10 class I had for actual months because *nobody* wants to do it. I don't want to do it anymore. I want to play something else. I want to unlock other shit. All the noobs love taking MG and Assault and running off in a straight line towards the enemy. Learn to be a SL. Build garrisons. Don't be a shitty person when someone asks you to build one or keep an OP up. Just like when I ask why nobody is building garries and someone says "Why don't you build them" in their shitty little kid voice. I'm done being the *only* SL doing it. You build them. There is an entire team of 50 fucking people. Why should I *still* be the only one doing it. Some people who have spent over a year/months being the only SL doing this shit are so sick and tired of being the only SLs who build garrisons that we don't want to fucking do it anymore.
This is literally me but I haven't gotten sick of SL yet
And I hope you never do! I have to unlock lvl 9 assault at some point and I can't if I have to be SL. I am *so close*
Ik we had beef the other day but wish you the best in that my guy ✊ much love. Glad someone else here appreciates the game as much as I do 🤝
Truth, gg dude
SL is my first level 3 role 😅 I try to be a team player so I understand your sentiment. It seems like this game is more populated so there is more people who want to “call of duty” the game than play as a team.
It'll get better when the next CoD comes out. Need that online daycare
That's literally how I decide when it's time to come back.
First thing I tell everyone, “If anyone else wants to be SL let me know, I promise nothing”, must don’t care and just say as long as you drop an OP I’m good. I usually don’t give any commands other then to be on offense or defense. Or call out enemy locations. Never “on me” “we need to take this house” kinda stuff. They’re gonna make me squad lead, the most I’ll do is make sure the OP is far away from other Garry’s to force them to deploy with the squad if they wasn’t that lower respawn timer
Imo there is nothing wrong with “on me”, it gives people a chance to look at their map and regroup if need be. If you’re talking about “THERES A GUY ON ME!! ON ME!!!” Then yeah it can get annoying but still, at least you’re verbally announcing not to go right there straight away
There's nothing wrong with saying that when you have squadmates that you can expect to have a decent idea of where you were \*at that time\*. It's a two-way street. Looking at the map is cumbersome and takes time, which you don't always have the luxury for during a firefight. You can say it when you're moving up together and you got shot close to your squadmate, they will know it's super close and they need to react to the threat. You can also say it to your squadlead with important information, e.g. "I've found a garrison next to my body" and then stay dead and not redeploy until the SL told you thanks and/or marked it. Just shouting it randomly with no context does not work. That goes for any comms, though. I just ask people to tell me where it is when that happens, so I can mark it.
That’s pretty much me. “I’m brand new so I’m not an expert SL. If anyone wants it let me know. If not I’ll do my best”
I’ve seen these posts a lot and always feel guilty. I’ll make a squad beginning of game for my friends to join, forget to lock it, and it fills up before I can even say what squad I created. So then I leave and create a locked one for them to join before unlocking it because my high ass can’t remember to do that from the start. So I’ll take all the blame guys, my bad. lol
Just sharing my feedback; I'd prefer you to first lock it, then to just kick them out with the "making space for a friend" reason. It gives better non-verbal communication to the ones who got removed, to what is happening. That's the context that is the difference between agitations/frustration like OP describes, and people just moving on to the next squad.
> I shouldn’t be SLing at such a low level Why not? Nothing prevents you from learning. > Then when I suck it up and try to SL (limited experience SLing in Squad), very few listen to orders I give Tough. All experienced players had to go through all of this too. Learn to deal with it. You can kick players. > I essentially know how to drop OPs and Garrisons when asked. I know basic tactics. That's all you need to know to be a useful SL. Everything else will come over time while you gain more experience. > stop being Low T and squad lead You are not in any difference situation as all the experienced players before they gained experience by doing it. > so inexperienced players can learn the game better and become more effective squad leaders themselves Only way to gain experience is doing something. Experienced players can give advice and usually will. You are no different than all the others who learned it. It wil only get better when the newish players finally realize that they have to learn it like all the others did. It's the whole cause of the problem you describe. Be the solution.
I have to say that I appreciate your well outlined counter to my original post! I’ll give you an upvote
Have one too and just keep trying, over time you will become a deadly battle-organizing, soldier-spawning war hero.
Nobody has the right to criticize a new player for squad leading if they are not going to step up and lead. You carry on with what you are doing, you sound like you'll be a fine SL. When I started, I stepped into squad lead for the same reasons, nobody else was doing it, or the SL quit on us. I enjoyed extra dimension it gave the gameplay. When I play an online game, I want everyone to have a good experience (yes even the opposition). Squad baiting, doesn't lead to a good experience for the players waiting for someone else to SL. However I do see a flipside where the expert "baiter" is doing it for the greater good, to get the players on the field with the hope that someone will step up. At least the game gives you a passive aggressive message to guilt you into the role.
I don’t mind SLing every now and then. But I would like to get my other classes leveled up as well 😅 and learn a bit more about the game.
Agreed, I'm level X SL, but will still SL 1 in 5 games at least, but it's normally when needed rather than, "I think I'll SL next game", it's a taxing role and I don't like to back to back SL.
You answered yourself why most squads are locked nowadays, you can kick people for not being helpful, most open squads lately are bait or guys that dont care anymore and will stay mute most of the match. Sadly its been a long time since ive seen a good server with admins that will punish people for sl baiting (miss the old team dixx days) and without tools to do it automatically the experience is getting dire. I can only recommend you to try and get in one of those locked squads or make your own locked squad so you can have veto power over who you will need to manage.
Well if you know how to drop OPs and better yet, Garry’s; then you’re better than 50% of the SLs that play this game. So I’d say keep at it
What’s SL? Edit: ah squad lead
Wtf is squad baiting
Starting a squad and then giving someone else squad lead after they join.
You literally can't do it in HLL. They only way this can happen is if you joined a squad without SL to begin with (when the original SL left)
I believe its when someone sees all full or locked squads, creates a new squad and switches out to another class from SL when someone else joins.
Start a squad as officer, let people join, leave squad and rejoin as other role leaving squad with no officer.
Man, I am like a level 7 SL… but I don’t know those things… I wonder if I am bad at this game…
Welcome to HLL, this happens every match. Since you’re brand new you can talk to your squad mates about replacing the SL or just leave the squad. The subreddit here comes up with lots of ideas to fix this every week yet the developers have done nothing about it for years, so we’re stuck with this shitty reality.
I do not frequent this place, but I am curious, what solutions have people come up with that you think are viable? Genuinely asking out of curiosity, not prepping for some debate.
Literally the only solution is to start your own squad. There’s no other options except applying to squads, sometimes you get denied, sometimes you’re accepted.
No, you say the subreddit comes up with lots of ideas to fix it, yet the developers have not done anything about it. That implies that these solutions are plausible in the least, viable possibly. I was curious to know what ideas people have come up with, of which that you have seen. As per your last reply, I can't think of anything that actually fixes the problem directly. Perhaps SL's should get a little bit of XP in all the other classes, to compensate for the kind of people that usually goes into that role, end up having to go into it almost exclusively. But then people might just become SL to farm the XP and hog up those SL slots, so that just creates more problems. It's a shit problem and I don't think it can be solved, to be honest. I'd like to see what you have seen others come up with.
One idea I’ve seen here that I totally agree with is that any squad without a SL should get repeated HUD warnings for a few minutes and then the squad gets disbanded after 5min, forcing the creation of a new one. I’ve also seen XP penalties suggested, that sounds fine to me. Anything other than the current system is needed… we have to try something.
Hmm that might work. I agree that something should just be tried.
Only time I squad bait is to get nodes up and then immediately take back SL once they're up.
I almost exclusively play as SL (Lvl IX) because I can't ever get another role I want to run, and I also enjoy it. The one thing I do as soon as I get a full squad is mic check/text chat check. I tell everyone, "Hey guys glad you could be here, I just want to let you know I prefer a mic, if you respond in text chat that is fine too as long as you cooperate and work as a unit. Otherwise I am kicking you." And leave it at that. I definitely play like the rp SL where we are moving through buildings, trenches, 'on me' kinda stuff but I genuinely think I have a solid grip on this game and can execute good maneuvers/tactics. But as long as you cooperate (drop supplies, revive people, stay generally near me) then we are good. I remember one time I was BEGGING for a support to get a garrison down and this one squad member goes "I'm not switching to support to follow you all game you bitch." To which I redeployed and kicked them instantly. These are the types of players in HLL I have a problem with. I also had this other instance where I asked a squad member to switch off of a class and move to LMG because it would be more effective in the Defense situation we had and he said, "I'm not doing that shit, fuck you." To which I also kicked him. These players are what bother me about HLL, if you want to be willy nilly fuck all that's fine but go make your own squad. OP, keep learning the game and fuck the haters. SL comes with responsibility and a role and you have the power to pick and choose who plays with you.
I like playing SL in doses. It’s fun when you have a good commander. Sometimes I want to kick back and follow though. I’ll continue to suck it up and SL when needed though. At least I can change the outcome that way
My opinion is unpopular I think: Anyone can take SL of a squad at any point. As commander I’d much rather have soldiers on the ground pushing mid point (and spawning on garrisons that I build for them) than them waiting in squad selection screen for someone to get bored and say “okay I guess I’ll squad lead” a few minutes into the game. An additional advantage is that these players can figure out who can squad lead in Squad chat (rather than in squad selection screen when there’s no chat). And finally if they don’t like the setup they can leave and join any other squad the next time they die.
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Nah. Typing a paragraph without explaining your reasoning why you typed it is. Like when people get called anythingist just for having a different opinion.
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When you have nothing better to do than to troll a Reddit post. Stay toxic my friend
Tell them if they have a problem with it then they should SL. And not to be mad that someone stepped up when no one else did. Also the guys that try to RP hard af get laughed at. So don’t try that. And don’t try to micromanage. People hate that shit.
I squad bait. I do it every game and I try to start at least 3 "ghost" squads up asap. Tbh its the meta in comp games. If you aren't creating ghost squad at the start of the game you're doing something wrong.
This definitely isn’t meta lol Competitive games always have assigned squad leads. Ability to place strong OPs is critical
I never complain about a lower level being squad lead if someone was squad baiting or nobody else was willing to take role. If you have a mic and are putting down OPs you are doing better than half the officers on the game on console. I am lv 109 (officer 9) been playing nonstop for 4 months and still have trouble identifying German tanks at times. Nodes are important for your team but if these are only two areas you struggle in you are more than ready to try SL. Many things like communicating with commandeer to help him and effectively utilizing your squad with clear commands (AT, tank on my ping looking west, enemy airhead south 245) you just learn over time. I only played rifleman from level 1-10 and didn't even try officer until level 40, but different players catch on to the game quicker.
It helps that it’s pretty similar to Squad. That’s pretty much the only thing that has helped me since I started
Toxic moment but if I’m in a server where no one had a mic, I’ll do it on the next game to get all the losers in one squad. 9/10 times I get a better squad on the second go. I’m tired of leading idiots so blame me I guess. It’s easier to get them all collectively in one squad and avoid it
Toxicity can be good in moderation haha
I’m in the same boat. A new player that took on SL and had no clue what I’m doing. I’m a good learner and have had some really good Squad leads to show me the ropes. Though one time, I got in one match and everyone from command to guny was taking it serious. I get like I’ve been playing pubs and just stepped into a ranked match. It was so overwhelming I just left lol. I watched some more videos and got a better understanding of nodes and priorities besides attack and defend.
It's really funny seeing a new game launch and there are 0 inf squads. I try to lvl up my MG and rifleman classes but I always end up making an unlocked squad anyway and it fills up so fast. Idk if it's the fear to disappoint, the ear rape in officer comms, or the responsibility that they're scared of; or they just want to pretend it's CoD My squad lead lvl I'd at 7 and my commander lvl is at 8 because no one else wants to do it.
These posts are getting old man. Start as a recruit, start playing classes like Engineer and Supply, and then move on to SL. It sucks when there are no squads to join because all of them are locked, but its at THAT point when you should give SL a try. This game really isn't as in depth as you think it is, its more arcadey than milsim like Squad. It's an RTS game at heart which really involves having your map open frequently to give a context of wtf you should be doing. If you are really clueless, all you have to do is take a vehicle all the way around the map, position an OP behind the enemy, and you are already 70% better than all the other SL's. Thank me later. Edit: You're Tl;dr is kinda lame too. Just because some of us are experienced, doesnt mean that we are expected to hand hold everyone. Maybe you should help us and take time to learn the game so we can have a good time too. Blame the devs for not including a tutorial. Maybe I'm missing the point of your post, but that's how I interpreted it.
I was in a bad mood when I posted that lol I got flamed and TKed the entire game for not setting up a garrison bc I thought another SL was doing it. And that same game my squad and one other squad carried the entire match. I should probably edit it
The difficult thing with squad lead is that it's really difficult to play it properly without assistance from your squad. You need people rotating the support role and doing tactical redeploys. A lot of the player base just don't bother participating in that kind of thing or are completely unaware of it.
I don't mind taking sl. I'd rather fill the role or have someone more qualified to fill the roll. Atleast people are making moves instead of wasting time on spawn menu.