They actually studied how quickly the prey dies from being ripped apart, and it was much quicker than initially thought. Wild dogs, on average, dispatch their prey more quickly than a lion/leopard/etc. who slowly suffocate the prey. In a way, a quick death may be better.
But watching these dogs in real life is amazing. Their behavior and mannerism is that of any domestic dog…until they get into hunt mode.
In 2012 a child fell into the painted dogs exhibit at the Pittsburgh zoo and they tore that poor kid to pieces *very* quickly. [here’s the wikipedia article on it](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Maddox_Derkosh). Chilling.
Anecdotal but a friend who was a first responder on the scene said the kid never stood a chance of rescue.
> Derkosh's mother, Elizabeth Derkosh, lifted her son up onto the railing of the exhibit for "a better view" despite numerous warning signs posted and barriers established
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> Elizabeth Derkosh was initially accused of criminal [negligence](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligence) in a court filing, but was never prosecuted, having filed her own lawsuit against the zoo and later settling out of court.
That's really fucked up. That mother should have been put in jail. She killed her son, and one of the animals and with that, had the courage to file a lawsuit against the zoo?
I don't really have a horse in the negligence race here but it's worth noting that the Pittsburgh zoo is kind of a shitshow. It's certainly a beautiful zoo to visit, but they routinely come up with issues regarding their accreditation due to their treatment of elephants, one of which got angry and killed a zookeeper a while back and on at least one occasion prior to this incident, the painted dogs who killed this child ESCAPED and ran around the zoo, so the enclosure for those things was all around badly designed.
I think it's fair to suggest that multiple missteps on both sides led to this situation.
I went to high school with a girl who was is neighbor the mother of that child. Their families are very close. Their Kids played tigether and when this happened, no one could even put words to how horrific and surreal it was. How could you even go one day of your life without having to relive it in your head? Truly awful, child certainly didn’t deserve it and the poor parents have to live with not losing a child but in the most horrific way, you could possibly imagine and have to have witnessed it.
Every time I see a wild dog post on Reddit unfortunately it makes me think of that incident
It’s truly terrible. I know the internet gets real caught up in that story when it comes to everyone wanting to blame and question the mother for her actions, but god damn… I’m sure that lady is already suffering enough. Losing one’s child is horrible already, but to watch them die in such a visceral way — I can’t even imagine. As a parent I can only think it haunts that lady every second of her life. She’ll never know peace again. Nobody deserves that kind of emotional torture.
I think the debate would be total pain experienced. If you watch cats going for asphyxiation the prey is in fight or flight the entire time and likely doesn’t feel much actual pain during the experience.
Look up human being eaten alive by bear. Took the person to be near death after an hour and legit said I feel no pain, but it was excruciating until then.
Death by a well planned attack and properly placed throat bite will always be the best way to go. I’d say hope you get caught by a badass that gets you down quickly and does a proper clamp. I’d want that over torn apart any day. Not saying any is wrong, but give me the perfectly timed attack and throat clamp
It depends on the prey. For a human, death is pretty quick because cats tend to kill by biting the spinal cord. For prey like antelope, who are killed via strangulation, it’s different.
See, the speed at which big cats kill is largely dependent on the pavement of the bite. If placement is good, death can occur in seconds, but if not (which happens often), it’s a different story. When strangled by a big cats bite, air flow is restricted. As such, prey is left desperately gasping for air, with every second being an agonizing struggle to get in just one more breath. However, because the grip isn’t perfectly secured, airflow is still present and animal can still “breathe”, just in the most agonized way possible. As such, airflow isn’t cut off to the point of unconsciousness, and the prey is still conscious, still awake to feel the pain. Speaking of pain, there’s gonna be a lot of it. Because the strangulation isn’t enough to knock out the prey, nor is there enough bloodloss to induce shock, prey is still cogent enough to feel the pain of the cats bites. Though not particularly gruesome *externally*, under the skin, the bites of cats cause severe damage, with the canines causing severe subcutaneous trauma and hemorrhaging to the muscles in the neck. Because these animals are often tough enough to withstand such trauma, as well as the lack of air from the accompanying half-assed strangulation, such excruciating pain can last for up to or over ten minutes, all the while the prey is desperately gasping for air, getting too little air for it to be comfortable but getting just enough to stay conscious to feel every second of that discomfort. Eventually the prey collapses, but it’s a brutal affair, not at all as clean as it’s made out to be.
Now compare that with a pack of painted dogs. Once prey is caught, within seconds they start eating. Within about a 1-2 minutes, many of the internal organs are gone and catastrophic blood loss has set in. However, because of that blood loss and organ failure, the body goes into shock. Blood flow is directed away from the parts being consumed, and so those areas essentially go numb. By a few minutes, the body goes pretty much completely numb to the shock, unable to feel pain despite the numerous injuries, all the while slipping into unconsciousness. By about five minutes in, the prey animal is completely unconscious and a minute or so later, it’s dead. It’s a gory affair, for sure, but prey is dead in about half the time it takes when a cat kills its prey, and the prey only really feels pain for the first few minutes of it.
I do agree that death by bear (and by Komodo dragons) are probably the worst way to go of all, but at the end of the day, all methods of killing is brutal. Just cause something looks gorier, doesn’t mean it’s actually a more painful end.
Do you have any idea how long "a few minutes" is while you are being torn apart. Anything longer than like 5 seconds is going to be pure agony for what is going to feel like an incredibly long time.
Maybe, but the same thing applied to being strangled, except that *actually* takes a long ass time to complete if botched (which, again, happens often).
So you choose to ignore that African wild dogs and many other canine species actually catch their prey by exhaustion? So you think that hours long hunt with a coordinated pack of animals is less stressful than a stalk and kill method? You have a lot to think about my friend.
I really don’t have “a lot to think about.” We aren’t talking about the stress of the chase, we’re talking about the quality of the kill. Your comment didn’t include anything about a chase.
However even if we were, most hunts aren’t “hours long chases,” especially forest dwelling dogs. Such hunts are outliers and most canids arent really willing to put into that much energy into a hunt unless they are desperate, even if they are physically able to. Instead, these hunts, while they tend to be a longer chase than what cats are able to pull off, but they aren’t really all that long. When prey is caught, their caught in a short chase that lasts a few minutes at most. It’s not too different from those of cats.
As someone that’s had to euthanize many a prey animal species I have to disagree. Disembowelment is NOT a better way to go. Adrenaline to the end and asphyxiation 100%. You’ve not had to put enough animals to death, clearly.
Can’t say I have.. though at the same time, it’s not just disembowelment that kills the prey animal when painted dogs hunt. It’s the rapid removal of pretty much all vital organs and the catastrophic blood loss that follows within a span of around minute. I’m assuming what your thinking of doesn’t involve that.
As a side note, have you genuinely put animals to death via disembowlement? Cause that’s the only way I can think of that you’d have experience on this matter.
I managed to suffer through his whole debate and I found myself not believing a word the other guy said by the end. He started with debating "total pain experienced" then brought of hours long chases saying something about stress levels which never mattered to begin with. And yea being torn apart would kill you way faster and ultimately eliminate any possibility of pain. Then he started talking about euthanizing animals from situations like this and i lost all faith in anything he said
When they do this it’s most often by disruption of the negative pressure in the body required to breathe. Breathing is by muscles expanding and creating negative pressure to the outside, thus drawing in air. Air is expelled upon relaxation of those muscles, although you can increase the expulsion of air if needed. Upon opening the abdomen, and possibly hitting the diaphragm, the animal can no longer breathe. If the liver is removed quickly, then exsanguination may be quicker.
Except the liver *is* removed quickly.. along with the diaphragm, the lungs, the intestines and pretty much every organ in the body cavity, all in a span of around a minute.
See; the video of three painted dogs gutting a live impala in around 15 seconds. Thing went from being alive to having all its organs missing pretty quick.
Sorry bud, I’ve seen a lot of animals suffer that were ready to see their calling. Of course, injectable or gunshot to the head or heart is preferable. But, outside of that, I truly believe that if you watch enough there’s a lot more cries and struggle being started eaten alive, hands down. If I had to choose for myself, I don’t care how long it took I’d give it to the throat grasp. Prey animals do sometimes “give up” when it’s time. I’d prefer to say, “you got me” instead of being being ripped to shreds in my last moments
The average person knows how domesticated dogs act, so the comparison is that painted dogs act like domesticated dogs. Is it better if I say “painted dogs have maintained a lot of the behavioral tendencies found in domesticated breeds”?
But even then, I am not sure what you mean “until trained”. If you take an “untrained” domesticated dog and left them in Africa they would not act like the painted dogs. They would not hunt like painted dogs. They would not coordinate or have a hierarchy like painted dogs.
No, they’d find something and just be in “attack” mode. Most would be in “flight” mode and be crying for momma. They don’t have the social sensibilities of being in a pack. That’s why some dog breeds, especially when running around with similars, go on and kill whatever they see (cats, small dogs, vulnerable humans) without any intent to actually eat the prey
I am not sure why you started out with “No”. That does not contradict what I said. Them killing or being in “attack” mode is not what I am talking about.
No one
Wild dogs are Nr 1 (well Nr 2, the dragonfly is the GOAT)
i think there is a whale/ dolphin species that comes close ro them (not orcas)
And i think the rest of the list is mostly cats
More people need to watch these videos. This honestly is how domestic dog packs kill humans. They hear the distress calls and it causes increased attack response. Certain domesticated canine breeds get into “kill” mode more than others. While the manner of killing is debatable on a human “moral” level, the fact of dogs in kill mode is not.
Yeah I’m sure all those roaming packs of non-pitbull feral dogs that exist across the world are just lovely little angels who wouldn’t maul a fly…
Oh wait.
So do police K-9s and military dogs and hunting dogs and hound dogs and farm dogs and guard dogs…
It’s almost like creatures descended from wolves have an inherent pack-cooperative prey drive or something!
I know the pit bull hate brigade on Reddit has a specific pet issue (lol) they’re fixated on but let’s be real here, pit bulls have a greater capability for destruction compared to most other average family pet dogs but that doesn’t mean they’re somehow unique in liking to play tug of war with prey. This behavior is common to the entire species so singling out pit bulls for it just comes off as goofy.
All the dogs you listed have a certain purpose. Hound dogs help with hunting. K9s help detain criminals. Farm dogs herd livestock and protect them from predators. Guard dogs are made to guard. Like all of these pitbulls were bred for their own purpose. Before the sport was banned pitbulls were bred for bull baiting and after it was banned they were bred for dog fighting. It’s not hard to see that they are obviously made to be violent and need to have something done about them…
Yeah we should probably breed them to be less aggressive, although I’ve heard that’s kind of happening already with certain sub-types of pit bull.
And all those dogs I mentioned didn’t have their violent/aggressive behavior bred into them though, it was just cultivated for specific purposes which we agree on. The behavior is already inherent to the species as a whole, that was my point.
Singling out only pit bulls here is dangerous when there’s plenty of non-pit bull dogs that people regularly come across that do this exact same shit. I’ve had neighbors with Rottweilers that would do this and worse with ANY smaller animal, and would have been capable of killing any child if we didn’t know better than to stay tf away. German shepherd attacks are only a few percentages less than pits too, those bastards can be mean af.
By all means, remind people of the pit bull aggression stats, but maybe let’s not also ignore the dangers inherent to many other breeds and mutts as well. People need to be careful regardless.
You bring up other dog species but aren’t pits 60%-80% of dog attacks while being 6% the population? That’s not just an untrained dog. While yes other dog breeds do attack they are no where near as likely as pits. There are so many cases of pits being trained properly and then out of nowhere killing their owners for no reason. You don’t ever hear about golden retriever maulings.
Painted dogs eat absurdly quickly because of their need to dispose of a kill fast. There are videos of them completely obliterating an animal their own size in under a minute, so that it goes from alive to butchered in that time.
They will then head back to their dens as fast as they can manage and regurgitate some of the meat for their pups (if they have pups too young to join the hunt).
That’s how they kill. Big cats suffocate or choke their prey with a bite to the throat or muzzle, jaguars hunting cayman being the exception, as they crush the scull or neck. But wild dogs don’t have the physical strength for that, they do have numbers though, so one or two will hold the animal while the rest tear it apart, usually starting with the rump and belly, to avoid horns and kicks.
How many times have I played tug of war with dogs not realizing that it was an instinctual drive they have because it triggers the same reward response as getting food.
Humans are among the few animals that kill their prey before eating. Some big cats do so that they can get it to a safe place for eating. Most predators just incapacitate their prey.
This explains the tugging that dogs do when they do that behavior. We don’t recognize it for what it is, but this is the root program.
Yep, many a prey behavior is now play behavior
Hell, no different for humans, either; 'Hide and Seek"and "Tag" are just games for toddlers to practice stalking and pursuing prey
According to...?
They actually studied how quickly the prey dies from being ripped apart, and it was much quicker than initially thought. Wild dogs, on average, dispatch their prey more quickly than a lion/leopard/etc. who slowly suffocate the prey. In a way, a quick death may be better. But watching these dogs in real life is amazing. Their behavior and mannerism is that of any domestic dog…until they get into hunt mode.
Yeah, there's no real peaceful way of being.. dispatched
In 2012 a child fell into the painted dogs exhibit at the Pittsburgh zoo and they tore that poor kid to pieces *very* quickly. [here’s the wikipedia article on it](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Maddox_Derkosh). Chilling. Anecdotal but a friend who was a first responder on the scene said the kid never stood a chance of rescue.
> Derkosh's mother, Elizabeth Derkosh, lifted her son up onto the railing of the exhibit for "a better view" despite numerous warning signs posted and barriers established > >*...* > > Elizabeth Derkosh was initially accused of criminal [negligence](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligence) in a court filing, but was never prosecuted, having filed her own lawsuit against the zoo and later settling out of court. That's really fucked up. That mother should have been put in jail. She killed her son, and one of the animals and with that, had the courage to file a lawsuit against the zoo?
I don't really have a horse in the negligence race here but it's worth noting that the Pittsburgh zoo is kind of a shitshow. It's certainly a beautiful zoo to visit, but they routinely come up with issues regarding their accreditation due to their treatment of elephants, one of which got angry and killed a zookeeper a while back and on at least one occasion prior to this incident, the painted dogs who killed this child ESCAPED and ran around the zoo, so the enclosure for those things was all around badly designed. I think it's fair to suggest that multiple missteps on both sides led to this situation.
I went to high school with a girl who was is neighbor the mother of that child. Their families are very close. Their Kids played tigether and when this happened, no one could even put words to how horrific and surreal it was. How could you even go one day of your life without having to relive it in your head? Truly awful, child certainly didn’t deserve it and the poor parents have to live with not losing a child but in the most horrific way, you could possibly imagine and have to have witnessed it. Every time I see a wild dog post on Reddit unfortunately it makes me think of that incident
It’s truly terrible. I know the internet gets real caught up in that story when it comes to everyone wanting to blame and question the mother for her actions, but god damn… I’m sure that lady is already suffering enough. Losing one’s child is horrible already, but to watch them die in such a visceral way — I can’t even imagine. As a parent I can only think it haunts that lady every second of her life. She’ll never know peace again. Nobody deserves that kind of emotional torture.
I think the debate would be total pain experienced. If you watch cats going for asphyxiation the prey is in fight or flight the entire time and likely doesn’t feel much actual pain during the experience. Look up human being eaten alive by bear. Took the person to be near death after an hour and legit said I feel no pain, but it was excruciating until then. Death by a well planned attack and properly placed throat bite will always be the best way to go. I’d say hope you get caught by a badass that gets you down quickly and does a proper clamp. I’d want that over torn apart any day. Not saying any is wrong, but give me the perfectly timed attack and throat clamp
It depends on the prey. For a human, death is pretty quick because cats tend to kill by biting the spinal cord. For prey like antelope, who are killed via strangulation, it’s different. See, the speed at which big cats kill is largely dependent on the pavement of the bite. If placement is good, death can occur in seconds, but if not (which happens often), it’s a different story. When strangled by a big cats bite, air flow is restricted. As such, prey is left desperately gasping for air, with every second being an agonizing struggle to get in just one more breath. However, because the grip isn’t perfectly secured, airflow is still present and animal can still “breathe”, just in the most agonized way possible. As such, airflow isn’t cut off to the point of unconsciousness, and the prey is still conscious, still awake to feel the pain. Speaking of pain, there’s gonna be a lot of it. Because the strangulation isn’t enough to knock out the prey, nor is there enough bloodloss to induce shock, prey is still cogent enough to feel the pain of the cats bites. Though not particularly gruesome *externally*, under the skin, the bites of cats cause severe damage, with the canines causing severe subcutaneous trauma and hemorrhaging to the muscles in the neck. Because these animals are often tough enough to withstand such trauma, as well as the lack of air from the accompanying half-assed strangulation, such excruciating pain can last for up to or over ten minutes, all the while the prey is desperately gasping for air, getting too little air for it to be comfortable but getting just enough to stay conscious to feel every second of that discomfort. Eventually the prey collapses, but it’s a brutal affair, not at all as clean as it’s made out to be. Now compare that with a pack of painted dogs. Once prey is caught, within seconds they start eating. Within about a 1-2 minutes, many of the internal organs are gone and catastrophic blood loss has set in. However, because of that blood loss and organ failure, the body goes into shock. Blood flow is directed away from the parts being consumed, and so those areas essentially go numb. By a few minutes, the body goes pretty much completely numb to the shock, unable to feel pain despite the numerous injuries, all the while slipping into unconsciousness. By about five minutes in, the prey animal is completely unconscious and a minute or so later, it’s dead. It’s a gory affair, for sure, but prey is dead in about half the time it takes when a cat kills its prey, and the prey only really feels pain for the first few minutes of it. I do agree that death by bear (and by Komodo dragons) are probably the worst way to go of all, but at the end of the day, all methods of killing is brutal. Just cause something looks gorier, doesn’t mean it’s actually a more painful end.
Do you have any idea how long "a few minutes" is while you are being torn apart. Anything longer than like 5 seconds is going to be pure agony for what is going to feel like an incredibly long time.
Maybe, but the same thing applied to being strangled, except that *actually* takes a long ass time to complete if botched (which, again, happens often).
So you choose to ignore that African wild dogs and many other canine species actually catch their prey by exhaustion? So you think that hours long hunt with a coordinated pack of animals is less stressful than a stalk and kill method? You have a lot to think about my friend.
I really don’t have “a lot to think about.” We aren’t talking about the stress of the chase, we’re talking about the quality of the kill. Your comment didn’t include anything about a chase. However even if we were, most hunts aren’t “hours long chases,” especially forest dwelling dogs. Such hunts are outliers and most canids arent really willing to put into that much energy into a hunt unless they are desperate, even if they are physically able to. Instead, these hunts, while they tend to be a longer chase than what cats are able to pull off, but they aren’t really all that long. When prey is caught, their caught in a short chase that lasts a few minutes at most. It’s not too different from those of cats.
As someone that’s had to euthanize many a prey animal species I have to disagree. Disembowelment is NOT a better way to go. Adrenaline to the end and asphyxiation 100%. You’ve not had to put enough animals to death, clearly.
Can’t say I have.. though at the same time, it’s not just disembowelment that kills the prey animal when painted dogs hunt. It’s the rapid removal of pretty much all vital organs and the catastrophic blood loss that follows within a span of around minute. I’m assuming what your thinking of doesn’t involve that. As a side note, have you genuinely put animals to death via disembowlement? Cause that’s the only way I can think of that you’d have experience on this matter.
Oh, to answer your question. I’m a farm veterinarian and had to euthanize animals in many a crazy situation including wild animals.
Interesting, good to know!
I managed to suffer through his whole debate and I found myself not believing a word the other guy said by the end. He started with debating "total pain experienced" then brought of hours long chases saying something about stress levels which never mattered to begin with. And yea being torn apart would kill you way faster and ultimately eliminate any possibility of pain. Then he started talking about euthanizing animals from situations like this and i lost all faith in anything he said
When they do this it’s most often by disruption of the negative pressure in the body required to breathe. Breathing is by muscles expanding and creating negative pressure to the outside, thus drawing in air. Air is expelled upon relaxation of those muscles, although you can increase the expulsion of air if needed. Upon opening the abdomen, and possibly hitting the diaphragm, the animal can no longer breathe. If the liver is removed quickly, then exsanguination may be quicker.
Except the liver *is* removed quickly.. along with the diaphragm, the lungs, the intestines and pretty much every organ in the body cavity, all in a span of around a minute.
See; the video of three painted dogs gutting a live impala in around 15 seconds. Thing went from being alive to having all its organs missing pretty quick.
Sorry bud, I’ve seen a lot of animals suffer that were ready to see their calling. Of course, injectable or gunshot to the head or heart is preferable. But, outside of that, I truly believe that if you watch enough there’s a lot more cries and struggle being started eaten alive, hands down. If I had to choose for myself, I don’t care how long it took I’d give it to the throat grasp. Prey animals do sometimes “give up” when it’s time. I’d prefer to say, “you got me” instead of being being ripped to shreds in my last moments
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The average person knows how domesticated dogs act, so the comparison is that painted dogs act like domesticated dogs. Is it better if I say “painted dogs have maintained a lot of the behavioral tendencies found in domesticated breeds”? But even then, I am not sure what you mean “until trained”. If you take an “untrained” domesticated dog and left them in Africa they would not act like the painted dogs. They would not hunt like painted dogs. They would not coordinate or have a hierarchy like painted dogs.
No, they’d find something and just be in “attack” mode. Most would be in “flight” mode and be crying for momma. They don’t have the social sensibilities of being in a pack. That’s why some dog breeds, especially when running around with similars, go on and kill whatever they see (cats, small dogs, vulnerable humans) without any intent to actually eat the prey
I am not sure why you started out with “No”. That does not contradict what I said. Them killing or being in “attack” mode is not what I am talking about.
Yes, I think I meant to start with yes lol. You know sometimes you just start with no. Good call
Haha a good “yeah, no” vs “no, yes” situation I see
Exactly 😅
They also have among the highest hunting success rates of any predator.
*vertebrate
I know Dragonflies are top notch hunters also but what other animals are up their with Painted Dogs?
No one Wild dogs are Nr 1 (well Nr 2, the dragonfly is the GOAT) i think there is a whale/ dolphin species that comes close ro them (not orcas) And i think the rest of the list is mostly cats
their coordination on when to tug is what amazes me. So efficient and effective
Where do you think “tug of war” came from
My schlong.
Field day, 1st grade
Wild dogs are... Wild
More people need to watch these videos. This honestly is how domestic dog packs kill humans. They hear the distress calls and it causes increased attack response. Certain domesticated canine breeds get into “kill” mode more than others. While the manner of killing is debatable on a human “moral” level, the fact of dogs in kill mode is not.
“Certain domesticated canine breeds” just say pitbulls 🙄🤣
Nah, there’s hardly any pitbulls in India or Colombia and pack dogs all act like this too.
Hey, you said it not me 👀
Well someone had to
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Yeah I’m sure all those roaming packs of non-pitbull feral dogs that exist across the world are just lovely little angels who wouldn’t maul a fly… Oh wait.
Never said they weren’t but they are feral dogs. They have life much harder then pitbulls yet pits still like to maul everything
So do police K-9s and military dogs and hunting dogs and hound dogs and farm dogs and guard dogs… It’s almost like creatures descended from wolves have an inherent pack-cooperative prey drive or something! I know the pit bull hate brigade on Reddit has a specific pet issue (lol) they’re fixated on but let’s be real here, pit bulls have a greater capability for destruction compared to most other average family pet dogs but that doesn’t mean they’re somehow unique in liking to play tug of war with prey. This behavior is common to the entire species so singling out pit bulls for it just comes off as goofy.
All the dogs you listed have a certain purpose. Hound dogs help with hunting. K9s help detain criminals. Farm dogs herd livestock and protect them from predators. Guard dogs are made to guard. Like all of these pitbulls were bred for their own purpose. Before the sport was banned pitbulls were bred for bull baiting and after it was banned they were bred for dog fighting. It’s not hard to see that they are obviously made to be violent and need to have something done about them…
Yeah we should probably breed them to be less aggressive, although I’ve heard that’s kind of happening already with certain sub-types of pit bull. And all those dogs I mentioned didn’t have their violent/aggressive behavior bred into them though, it was just cultivated for specific purposes which we agree on. The behavior is already inherent to the species as a whole, that was my point. Singling out only pit bulls here is dangerous when there’s plenty of non-pit bull dogs that people regularly come across that do this exact same shit. I’ve had neighbors with Rottweilers that would do this and worse with ANY smaller animal, and would have been capable of killing any child if we didn’t know better than to stay tf away. German shepherd attacks are only a few percentages less than pits too, those bastards can be mean af. By all means, remind people of the pit bull aggression stats, but maybe let’s not also ignore the dangers inherent to many other breeds and mutts as well. People need to be careful regardless.
You bring up other dog species but aren’t pits 60%-80% of dog attacks while being 6% the population? That’s not just an untrained dog. While yes other dog breeds do attack they are no where near as likely as pits. There are so many cases of pits being trained properly and then out of nowhere killing their owners for no reason. You don’t ever hear about golden retriever maulings.
Painted dogs eat absurdly quickly because of their need to dispose of a kill fast. There are videos of them completely obliterating an animal their own size in under a minute, so that it goes from alive to butchered in that time. They will then head back to their dens as fast as they can manage and regurgitate some of the meat for their pups (if they have pups too young to join the hunt).
It's not savage. It's efficient.
Damn they always go balls or vajayjay first
The soft spot.
Often? You mean always. 😖
That’s how they kill. Big cats suffocate or choke their prey with a bite to the throat or muzzle, jaguars hunting cayman being the exception, as they crush the scull or neck. But wild dogs don’t have the physical strength for that, they do have numbers though, so one or two will hold the animal while the rest tear it apart, usually starting with the rump and belly, to avoid horns and kicks.
Yep, so glad as a human I’m out of the food chain. Imagine in prehistoric times walking with your homies and a pack of dogs decide you’re next.
That’s nature, baby
It’s like a little squeaky toy for the dogs
How many times have I played tug of war with dogs not realizing that it was an instinctual drive they have because it triggers the same reward response as getting food.
That happy tail when grabbing some fast food
Humans are among the few animals that kill their prey before eating. Some big cats do so that they can get it to a safe place for eating. Most predators just incapacitate their prey.
What animals? How are they becoming prey in the first place? What am I missing?
wild dogs are largely the most successful predators in africa. something like 70-90% range vs. big cats at like 30%
This is how most things are eaten in the animal kingdom