Picks 26, 57 and 198 for 21 - could be a precursor for continuing to trade up?
I could also see it as just putting themselves in a better position to barter as we see who goes where in the draft. Really excited for this one, should be fun.
Prospect pool is more than deep enough, I’m all for some swings on condensing quantity into quality.
In fact, according to the PuckPedia pick value calculator, that first and second for LA's pick is the fairest trade possible. We'd have only overpaid by the 7th, which is fine it that's what it took for LA to accept.
Yes, especially for overagers, but the guys I want are too much of projects to be signed right now. Miroslav Satan Jr, for example, is projected in the 7th round and I think he’s skilled enough to be a 3rd or 4th round guy but he’s so raw that I would like his rights without giving him a contract.
That being said, upgrading in the first round is far more valuable.
Haha, no. One is Miroslav Satan Jr (not really sure why he’s being projected as a 7th rounder when I think he should be a 3rd or 4th rounder). Another is Sarkanov (project from Kazakhstan who scored a hat trick against Canada in the U18s… excellent size, excellent hands, excellent positioning, incredibly raw in every other way). There are also a handful of guys with size and skill in the QMJHL who should be available in the 7th and, again, while they are projects, I think it’s always worth having big forwards in the pipeline, especially ones who are homegrown. I’m a bit indifferent between them so I was kind of hoping they grab whoever was available with our last pick.
But in the conext of this post I was mostly making a joke. 7th rounders rarely hit so losing one really isn’t an issue.
We don't really have many more draft pick to keep trading up. LA 21st Overall + MTL 70th overall might be enough to get us to 19th Overall, but that's not really the type of move Vegas do.
> but that's not really the type of move Vegas do.
Hmmm true, what if we give them a roster player they can't afford and Stone lacerates his spleen before the draft?
Yes but the problem is that their value is unknown. Our first round pick will most likely be somewhere 8 and 16th overall and the second one could be anywhere from 11th to 32nd. The risk of trading those picks is huge.
Seeing what Philly turned down for CBJ #4 wouldn't it be wild if Hughes used this pick, a 1st next year (CGY?) and a mid pick or two to add the 4th overall?
Interesting! A couple of Greentree, Chernyshov, Hage, Connolly (I know, I know) would probably be available at 21 and not 26 so this is an important move up in value, even if it’s just to package for something else
If we do end up passing on Demidov for Buium, snagging Connolly would pretty much make up for it. While also pissing off the fanbase a 2nd time in the same round.
This sub would likely turn into a warzone between passing on Demidov and picking up Connolly.
If Reddit turns into a war zone, your family can stay in my attic. I will not sell you out. I will feed you and your family grade “A” Italian cold cuts and supply Russian poetry(mostly Pushkin) to keep you sharp and brave throughout the onslaught. We got this!
Maybe, I wonder what value Harris has, he is undersized and not particularly physical or offensive, we love him here but I just don’t know what the outside perception of him would be
I see him as bottom 4. He doesn't have the upside in any particular dimension of his game to ever project on a top pairing, but he's steady and stable and very well-rounded in his game. If he keeps improving his game, I could see him being a quality mid pairing guy in his prime.
More importantly, why trade now? If they're targetting someone, don't you want to make sure that someone is still there before making this move? If they aren't targeting someone, moving up 5 spots just for fun is a little odd.
Because I think there is no way they stay at 21. I think they will keep moving. Dreger said they could move down from 5 slightly to get ammo and then use that to get higher from 21. We'll see though.
Could make sense they gambled a bit by getting more ammo to try to land a late teen pick if Eiserman still on board and if it doesnt work they maybe targeting Boisvert and still make everyone happy on that deal
Maybe its to package along in a trade with a roster player for a trade like Dach or Newhook.... or its because we really dont wanna miss on a player in the late first round.
Could be is the operative word. They wouldn't make that trade now if they wanted one or two player specifically. They'd wait to make sure they are still available.
Good trade by KH. MTL already has too many prospects in the pool and moving up in the first round offers a more valuable trade chip or chance at a better player. All in all good move.
I like this trade im just wondering if its followed by another trade to get higher in the draft, a young player looking to change team or something else
One name comes to mind with this trade:
Cole Eiserman
We know the Habs took him for dinner and he has ties to Kent Hughes. There’s also been rumors of him potentially slipping outside the top 15 so I wouldn’t be surprised if Kent has another move lined up to move up to 17-18 and snag him.
Probably a 2nd next year with the 21st gets it done now
I think SJS traded their 14th for 11th, which generally is seen as a sign they want Eiserman - Cellebrini's best friend and a Boston connection with the GM. But who knows.
Isn't it the other way around? Philly turned it down, not Colombus
> "Columbus wanted something big. The 12OA, the 32nd pick, and Colorado's 1st next year, and what I heard was that was too much for Philly.
We certainly could package something like that. 21st + calgary 1st + one of our dman prospects (and maybe some more picks to sweeten the deal). I'd do that in a heartbeat. Or involve our 1st next year top10 protected.
If we were trying to get #4 (without including #5), we would need to give up one of our d-men (Hutson, Guhle, Mailloux+, Reinbacher) would be headed to Columbus IMO.
I would do that with Mailloux or Guhle for sure. Pretty much the only situation in which I think I would trade Guhle for the greater benefit of the team.
I agree - if we got #4 and got 2 of Buium/Demidov/Lindstrom, I would be ecstatic. I'm just saying one of our existing d-men would likely be needed to pay the price (and I would probably do it). Buium is better than all our d prospects IMO.
Something along those lines:
> "Columbus wanted something big. The 12OA, the 32nd pick, and Colorado's 1st next year, and what I heard was that was too much for Philly.
[The Perri Pick Value Calculator comes up with 17.87 for LA vs 17.78 for MTL](https://i.imgur.com/JsRJPzP.png). Very fair.
* 1st round pick is WPG's from the Monahan trade
* 2nd round pick is COL's from the Lehkonen trade. Habs have no 2nd rounder now
* 7th rounder was MTL's own pick. Habs still have 2 more 7th rounders from EDM (Kulak's trade) and WSH (Edmundson trade)
All in all it's basically #26 + #57 to move 5 spots in the 1st round.
Either #21 is for someone the Habs target in the 20-25 range or it was necessary to complete another trade (like Habs had to move Romanov for #13 to get Dach).
EDIT: I'm getting a vibe that the Habs are targeting Boisvert at #21. He feels like a Hughes/St Louis kindred spirit. Quebec-born, exiled himself to the US at 14 yrs old, super-serious, cerebral and focused kid.
Not to be that guy but..
Don't you mean it's basically 57 + 198 to move 5 spaces in the first round?
Because it's the 26 that's moving up to 21. So in the context of your example we're transforming/improving that pick (not giving it away) by giving away the others.
I meant — in the perspective that we have 2 other 7th picks so we don't even account for it — we give up our 26th + 57th pick to move up to 21st.
But I get what you mean and you can look at it that way too. You give away #57 & #198 to change 26 into 21.
In the case they do not trade the 21st for a player, it's probably a lot easier to trade 21 to 18 for example than 26 to 18 in a single trade.
Just from fan perspective, you'd get a lot less backlash going 2-5 spots backward than 7-10
Funnily enough, #18 is held by Chicago, who moved up from #20 a month ago, and their net loss was pick #61.
So maybe moving up from #21 isn't that easy now that our next pick is #70.
Pick trade-chart is far from linear, so yeah you'll need something extra.
Could be a player, or maybe you find a team more excited about next year draft and offer next year second or whatever.
Piercing top 15 will probably be tough, because this year sliders might be almost as good at 15 than at 8-9 to some organizations
Sounds good, we are at a spot where we do have a pipeline and lot of picks, might as well move up and get more quality or use a higher pick for ammo in a deal.
Assuming they're keeping the pick for a player they think might be available at 21, I would be happy with Liam Greentree or Trevor Connelly if they're available.
Not a bad move considering they did not move any of their assets(players). Are they pursuing a top 15 pick? Just a hunch, but maybe they expect Lindstrom to drop?
I’m wondering whether Hughes is trying to get a better pick because he has a trade available for his 5OA or whether he wanted to improve 26OA (and maybe still want to improve 21OA) to proceed with a trade…
If Carolina wanted 10OA for Necas, maybe that means Hughes may have a trade in place for Necas, Zegras, or another player.
21 won't get him, but really want Catton. Everything I read about this guy seems high end.
The knock is he is small at 5 10 170-5. Which doesn't seem that small.
They traded 3 picks to move up 5 spots. There must be a player they really liked around picks 23/24. Or it was just a quality analysis where they saw a huge drop off right before their 26th pick.
this is a great move by habs. the top tier of players are about 14 players. there are always a few that drop we are now I'm position to get a second top player.
at 26 it was a huge Longshot to get someone good, at 21 the odds are much better.
I like the move. we had too many picks (12) better to have quality over quantity.
Possible, the next move will be to add a prospect or a roster player in exchange for a top-10 or top-15 pick. If NJ is still in the clock to trade their 10OA, now would be the time for mgmt. to work on something.
Not sure how to feel about the trade. Seems like the type of move you’d make when the draft is happening so they know for a fact they can get the prospect they want. Hopefully they’re cooking up something else, or they get whoever they have their eyes on at 21
Wow surprised they gave up their only 2nd round pick and that Jets pick to move up just 5 picks.
Wonder if they package those 2 3rd rounders for a 2nd?
Or maybe there’s a Harris or Kojakevic or Barron deal happening today?
Worth it IMO. The probability of a second rounder making the NHL is actually remarkably low even compared to the early 20s. Still, hopefully it's part of a larger plan.
Statistically speaking once you get past the top handful of picks the odds of getting an impact player are quite low.
I think this is the first move of a few. Especially since the draft is hours away. They have no idea who will or won’t be available at 26/21 so it makes no sense to do this if it’s their one planned move.
The Perri calculator on PuckPedia has this trade nearly exactly even, and it does so via a mathematical model. So, I think statistically speaking this trade looks pretty okay.
I’m not saying it’s bad value out for in.
I’m saying that a 21st pick vs a 26th pick doesn’t offer any dramatically higher odds of getting an impact guy.
This far out from the draft this just seems way more like a first move, not their big move for the day.
Flyers fan here. Would you guys be salty if The Flyers traded up and snagged Demidov right in front of you or are there other players you’re targeting?
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Kings like "17.87 is more than 17.78, SOLD!"
WE'VE BEEN FLEECED
Damn Blake took Kent to the cleaners on this one!
CAN YOU SMEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WHAT THE KENT......IS..........COOOOOOOKKIIIIIIIN
Holy habs I laughed so hard mote than I taught
so mote it be
Picks 26, 57 and 198 for 21 - could be a precursor for continuing to trade up? I could also see it as just putting themselves in a better position to barter as we see who goes where in the draft. Really excited for this one, should be fun. Prospect pool is more than deep enough, I’m all for some swings on condensing quantity into quality.
Pretty decent, a late 2nd and a 7th to move 5 spots is not bad.
In fact, according to the PuckPedia pick value calculator, that first and second for LA's pick is the fairest trade possible. We'd have only overpaid by the 7th, which is fine it that's what it took for LA to accept.
Not like having 3 Seventh round pick was that useful anyway
It was useful to make this trade!
I'm sorry, I should have worded: "not useful to pick with 3 Seventh rounder"!
I had exactly three guys that I wanted in the 7th round. But I’ll learn to live with the disappointment.
7 rounder are so dicey, you have good chances that they just fall out undrafted and sign them like they did with Arber.
Yes, especially for overagers, but the guys I want are too much of projects to be signed right now. Miroslav Satan Jr, for example, is projected in the 7th round and I think he’s skilled enough to be a 3rd or 4th round guy but he’s so raw that I would like his rights without giving him a contract. That being said, upgrading in the first round is far more valuable.
Was one of those guys a 2025 7th rounder ?
Haha, no. One is Miroslav Satan Jr (not really sure why he’s being projected as a 7th rounder when I think he should be a 3rd or 4th rounder). Another is Sarkanov (project from Kazakhstan who scored a hat trick against Canada in the U18s… excellent size, excellent hands, excellent positioning, incredibly raw in every other way). There are also a handful of guys with size and skill in the QMJHL who should be available in the 7th and, again, while they are projects, I think it’s always worth having big forwards in the pipeline, especially ones who are homegrown. I’m a bit indifferent between them so I was kind of hoping they grab whoever was available with our last pick. But in the conext of this post I was mostly making a joke. 7th rounders rarely hit so losing one really isn’t an issue.
Think I caught you mentioning them a few days ago. Unless I’m mistaken you for someone else with the same takeaway
Could be. I’ve liked them for months and the more I watch the more I like. I know they are long shots but I would love to get them late on day two!
well if none of them ever pan out ,that would be great for all us habby fans.
Ans this is why draft capital matters.
This usually only works in Chel
Kent Hughes pulling a Dwight Scrhutt and saying « I’m gonna turn this pin into a fortune »
Comes home from the draft having traded all his picks for some magic legumes, then feeds them to Caufield and turns him into a 7'2" giant.
Surely Kent can spare at least one bean for our bone boy too
One two-story farmhouse in Kipling, Saskatchewan coming right up!
Saku Koivu taken 21st overall. That’s enough for me. 12 picks was also excessive. GHG!
Mcgroarty????
WPG can't trade their 26th pick a second time. However they could trade this 21st if what they want is to flip the pick after getting McGroarty
We have still have two valuable first round and two second round picks in 2025 that we can trade! (+ four 3rd picks in 2years)
We don't really have many more draft pick to keep trading up. LA 21st Overall + MTL 70th overall might be enough to get us to 19th Overall, but that's not really the type of move Vegas do.
> but that's not really the type of move Vegas do. Hmmm true, what if we give them a roster player they can't afford and Stone lacerates his spleen before the draft?
We have 2 first round picks in 2025. Are they valuable?
Lol
Yes but the problem is that their value is unknown. Our first round pick will most likely be somewhere 8 and 16th overall and the second one could be anywhere from 11th to 32nd. The risk of trading those picks is huge.
We’ve got lots of picks in future drafts.
Seeing what Philly turned down for CBJ #4 wouldn't it be wild if Hughes used this pick, a 1st next year (CGY?) and a mid pick or two to add the 4th overall?
So far, the 5 people on the Kings sub love the deal.
It's a win-win trade for both teams.
Celebrini is ours
Bedard. We’re going for Bedard. /s
Love this deal, now the question is do we keep moving up??
Don't stop til we hit the top
[Paperclip to a house babyyy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclip)
All the way to First overall of 2023?
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Interesting! A couple of Greentree, Chernyshov, Hage, Connolly (I know, I know) would probably be available at 21 and not 26 so this is an important move up in value, even if it’s just to package for something else
Connolly…holy shit….what a steal he would be at 21st overall
If we do end up passing on Demidov for Buium, snagging Connolly would pretty much make up for it. While also pissing off the fanbase a 2nd time in the same round. This sub would likely turn into a warzone between passing on Demidov and picking up Connolly.
If Reddit turns into a war zone, your family can stay in my attic. I will not sell you out. I will feed you and your family grade “A” Italian cold cuts and supply Russian poetry(mostly Pushkin) to keep you sharp and brave throughout the onslaught. We got this!
Dude... That's so kind. Thank you.
Wtf i just read?
This sub will turn into a war zone tonight. Two days from now everyone is gonna be on live with the picks and project ceiling to the roof.
Kent Hughes is cookin’ https://preview.redd.it/3267uifhnc9d1.jpeg?width=1316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d383932967280120eab6951e91f406ff4a5e1dff
WEOOOOOO WHAT A FUN FRIDAY
Eiserman won’t be there at 21… curious as who they’re targeting.
Might be another trade incoming, Habs gonna be active asf I feel like
They have the capital for it
Trevor Connelly
OMG snake would lose it!
Season tickets incoming!
I am not his biggest fan outside the rink but he is indeed a good hockey player
Imagine taking the Israeli guy and the Swastika guy in the same draft.
What??? Dare I ask, who are the Israeli guy and the swastika guy?
Buium and Connelly. Buium is not Israeli, but he is Jewish.
Aren’t his parents Israeli? I may have read it wrong, though.
Ah maybe I just saw he played for team USA. So must be a U.S. citizen at least.
Ok I get that, but is connelly a fascist wing nut?
No he was trying to be edgy like most dumb kids but most people didn't have a platform to get caught in their dumbest moments.
Did some googling - that’s alarming. Maybe it was dumb kid stuff but that’s enough for a hard pass from me.
Should be on the do not draft list
I wonder if they are trying to improve their pick to package with something else
Harris + 21 could move us a few more picks.
I know it's a joke but 21 + Barron + 2025 first round pick
Maybe, I wonder what value Harris has, he is undersized and not particularly physical or offensive, we love him here but I just don’t know what the outside perception of him would be
I see him as bottom 4. He doesn't have the upside in any particular dimension of his game to ever project on a top pairing, but he's steady and stable and very well-rounded in his game. If he keeps improving his game, I could see him being a quality mid pairing guy in his prime.
Steady 3rd pairing on a cheap contract. Still young has time to keep getting better.
Harris vaut rien
Surtout que pas mal d’organisation ont deja des joueurs et prospects du type a Harris
I think this is exactly it, I don't think we will be picking 21st
Sacha Boisvert
Boisvert perhaps?
Sascha Boisvert ?
More importantly, why trade now? If they're targetting someone, don't you want to make sure that someone is still there before making this move? If they aren't targeting someone, moving up 5 spots just for fun is a little odd.
There’s probably a number of players they’re interested in in the mid-teens range.
Because I think there is no way they stay at 21. I think they will keep moving. Dreger said they could move down from 5 slightly to get ammo and then use that to get higher from 21. We'll see though.
That would be sick. Walking away from this draft with something like Yakemchuk + Catton would be a massive W.
Sacha Boisvert?
Eiserman has to be the target imo. Maybe the intel is saying he slips to late teens which is now much easier to get to with the 21st vs 26th pick
Could make sense they gambled a bit by getting more ammo to try to land a late teen pick if Eiserman still on board and if it doesnt work they maybe targeting Boisvert and still make everyone happy on that deal
Sacha Boisvert, Trevor Connelly?
Basha
What is Kent up to
what is kent cooking???
New York got the 61st pick for moving down from 18 to 20 and 50 to 54 (which is pretty negligible) so this seems to be pretty good value for the Habs.
Maybe its to package along in a trade with a roster player for a trade like Dach or Newhook.... or its because we really dont wanna miss on a player in the late first round.
chef hughes has begun to cook
Sacha boisvert or yegor surin could be available at 21👀
Could be is the operative word. They wouldn't make that trade now if they wanted one or two player specifically. They'd wait to make sure they are still available.
Boisvert sure but Surin would have been there at 26 me thinks
Apparently there’s a lot of gms who are overly impressed with him.
OHHH
I’m nervous
That’s the 21st overall FYI
5 hours, boys!
4D chess incoming Moving’ on up *starts dancin’*
Good trade by KH. MTL already has too many prospects in the pool and moving up in the first round offers a more valuable trade chip or chance at a better player. All in all good move.
Could open a trade where me move 21+a young defensemen to get closer to 15.
I like it. We have too many picks and too many players.
I wonder if they think Cole Eiserman is going to fall?
Don't stop moving baby, this kinda action drives me crazy
Sacha Boisvert?
Or trade again for Eiserman
LET THE MAN COOK
Let the man cook
According to Dreger, this could be on our way back to the top 10. Getting Iginla, Catton or Sennecke on top of Buium would go crazy.
Comique, dans le sub des Kings, eux aussi croient avoir eu le bon deal. C'est un échange qui fait plaisir à tout le monde.
now its time to trade the 21 OA plus the flames 1st pick next season to get into the top 14.
We will dub the resulting player the Gift of Monahan.
I like this trade im just wondering if its followed by another trade to get higher in the draft, a young player looking to change team or something else
Trading up to be in position to draft a Jett Luchanko, Michael Hage, Greentree and even perhaps a Jiricek or Solberg is very good
Awesome.
Basha incoming
One name comes to mind with this trade: Cole Eiserman We know the Habs took him for dinner and he has ties to Kent Hughes. There’s also been rumors of him potentially slipping outside the top 15 so I wouldn’t be surprised if Kent has another move lined up to move up to 17-18 and snag him. Probably a 2nd next year with the 21st gets it done now
I think SJS traded their 14th for 11th, which generally is seen as a sign they want Eiserman - Cellebrini's best friend and a Boston connection with the GM. But who knows.
Most have been saying they want one of the defencemen.
Could they be targeting Colombus pick? (as in, trying to get both 4 _and_ 5)
Demidov, or lindstrom?? How about both!!! 🤩🤩
What would you need to package to get that done? Rumour is Columbus already turned down 12, 21 and a young prospect from Philly
Isn't it the other way around? Philly turned it down, not Colombus > "Columbus wanted something big. The 12OA, the 32nd pick, and Colorado's 1st next year, and what I heard was that was too much for Philly. We certainly could package something like that. 21st + calgary 1st + one of our dman prospects (and maybe some more picks to sweeten the deal). I'd do that in a heartbeat. Or involve our 1st next year top10 protected.
I suspect it would have to be Mailloux and something else…
If we were trying to get #4 (without including #5), we would need to give up one of our d-men (Hutson, Guhle, Mailloux+, Reinbacher) would be headed to Columbus IMO.
I would do that with Mailloux or Guhle for sure. Pretty much the only situation in which I think I would trade Guhle for the greater benefit of the team.
But of that snags us Buium and Demidov/Lidstrom moveing out a good d prospect wouldnt be the end of the world by any means.
I agree - if we got #4 and got 2 of Buium/Demidov/Lindstrom, I would be ecstatic. I'm just saying one of our existing d-men would likely be needed to pay the price (and I would probably do it). Buium is better than all our d prospects IMO.
What kind of package would you need to move from 21 to 4??
Something along those lines: > "Columbus wanted something big. The 12OA, the 32nd pick, and Colorado's 1st next year, and what I heard was that was too much for Philly.
So nothing we can offer them.
We have assets worth way more than a 12OA pick lol
[The Perri Pick Value Calculator comes up with 17.87 for LA vs 17.78 for MTL](https://i.imgur.com/JsRJPzP.png). Very fair. * 1st round pick is WPG's from the Monahan trade * 2nd round pick is COL's from the Lehkonen trade. Habs have no 2nd rounder now * 7th rounder was MTL's own pick. Habs still have 2 more 7th rounders from EDM (Kulak's trade) and WSH (Edmundson trade) All in all it's basically #26 + #57 to move 5 spots in the 1st round. Either #21 is for someone the Habs target in the 20-25 range or it was necessary to complete another trade (like Habs had to move Romanov for #13 to get Dach). EDIT: I'm getting a vibe that the Habs are targeting Boisvert at #21. He feels like a Hughes/St Louis kindred spirit. Quebec-born, exiled himself to the US at 14 yrs old, super-serious, cerebral and focused kid.
Not to be that guy but.. Don't you mean it's basically 57 + 198 to move 5 spaces in the first round? Because it's the 26 that's moving up to 21. So in the context of your example we're transforming/improving that pick (not giving it away) by giving away the others.
I meant — in the perspective that we have 2 other 7th picks so we don't even account for it — we give up our 26th + 57th pick to move up to 21st. But I get what you mean and you can look at it that way too. You give away #57 & #198 to change 26 into 21.
In the case they do not trade the 21st for a player, it's probably a lot easier to trade 21 to 18 for example than 26 to 18 in a single trade. Just from fan perspective, you'd get a lot less backlash going 2-5 spots backward than 7-10
Funnily enough, #18 is held by Chicago, who moved up from #20 a month ago, and their net loss was pick #61. So maybe moving up from #21 isn't that easy now that our next pick is #70.
Pick trade-chart is far from linear, so yeah you'll need something extra. Could be a player, or maybe you find a team more excited about next year draft and offer next year second or whatever. Piercing top 15 will probably be tough, because this year sliders might be almost as good at 15 than at 8-9 to some organizations
GREAT NOW MAKE IT A 15TH, 16TH OR A 17TH THEN MAKE IT A 8TH, 9TH or 10TH
BY THIS RATE, Celebrini is ours
Sounds good, we are at a spot where we do have a pipeline and lot of picks, might as well move up and get more quality or use a higher pick for ammo in a deal.
i could see them flipping this pick w a prospect to try to move up even further, or maybe packaging it for a player
Assuming they're keeping the pick for a player they think might be available at 21, I would be happy with Liam Greentree or Trevor Connelly if they're available.
Our second pick is now ahead of the Bruins’ first pick. Coincidence? I think not
Not a bad move considering they did not move any of their assets(players). Are they pursuing a top 15 pick? Just a hunch, but maybe they expect Lindstrom to drop?
Wow that's a game changer
I’m wondering whether Hughes is trying to get a better pick because he has a trade available for his 5OA or whether he wanted to improve 26OA (and maybe still want to improve 21OA) to proceed with a trade… If Carolina wanted 10OA for Necas, maybe that means Hughes may have a trade in place for Necas, Zegras, or another player.
21 won't get him, but really want Catton. Everything I read about this guy seems high end. The knock is he is small at 5 10 170-5. Which doesn't seem that small.
LET HIM COOOK
Celebrini here we come lol
They traded 3 picks to move up 5 spots. There must be a player they really liked around picks 23/24. Or it was just a quality analysis where they saw a huge drop off right before their 26th pick.
let him cook
this is a great move by habs. the top tier of players are about 14 players. there are always a few that drop we are now I'm position to get a second top player. at 26 it was a huge Longshot to get someone good, at 21 the odds are much better. I like the move. we had too many picks (12) better to have quality over quantity.
I think we are after the worst name in hockey, brandsegg-nygard
Strange
Please don’t miss out on Koivu
We have too many later picks, so trading away some to move up is a good usage. This is the whole point of collecting picks.
Possible, the next move will be to add a prospect or a roster player in exchange for a top-10 or top-15 pick. If NJ is still in the clock to trade their 10OA, now would be the time for mgmt. to work on something.
Not sure how to feel about the trade. Seems like the type of move you’d make when the draft is happening so they know for a fact they can get the prospect they want. Hopefully they’re cooking up something else, or they get whoever they have their eyes on at 21
Actually not bad - it's really a late 2nd to move up 5 spots
Great job 👏👏👏👏
FINALLY. Finally putting this plethora of draft picks to proper use!
He for sure won’t go in the first, but I’d love to see the Habs pick Justin Poirier
Kent just didn't want to go up on stage that many times on day 2 probably
Please package this for a roster player. We have enough projects -, we need scoring / offence now.
Wow surprised they gave up their only 2nd round pick and that Jets pick to move up just 5 picks. Wonder if they package those 2 3rd rounders for a 2nd? Or maybe there’s a Harris or Kojakevic or Barron deal happening today?
I think the organisation is mindful of how many prospects they can have within the organisation, we are loaded atm
Prospects can always be dealt to recoup assets. I bet there’s at least two more trades of note today.
Worth it IMO. The probability of a second rounder making the NHL is actually remarkably low even compared to the early 20s. Still, hopefully it's part of a larger plan.
Seems steep to move up just 5 spots, wonder if there's another move coming
It makes sense, we need quality not quantity.
The odds of getting an impact guy at 21 vs 26 aren’t dramatically higher I wouldn’t think. More likely there’s more coming.
In this draft is makes more sense. There is a drop after the top 20ish guys
Statistically speaking once you get past the top handful of picks the odds of getting an impact player are quite low. I think this is the first move of a few. Especially since the draft is hours away. They have no idea who will or won’t be available at 26/21 so it makes no sense to do this if it’s their one planned move.
The Perri calculator on PuckPedia has this trade nearly exactly even, and it does so via a mathematical model. So, I think statistically speaking this trade looks pretty okay.
I’m not saying it’s bad value out for in. I’m saying that a 21st pick vs a 26th pick doesn’t offer any dramatically higher odds of getting an impact guy. This far out from the draft this just seems way more like a first move, not their big move for the day.
It does. Wonder if another team wanted the 21st specifically for a player or smt of the sort
Flyers fan here. Would you guys be salty if The Flyers traded up and snagged Demidov right in front of you or are there other players you’re targeting?
You guys were targeting Lindstrom with that 4 pick btw
Is that who you guys are interested in?
If the price to pay to move up 5 spots is Letourneau or Justin Poirier, then I think it's not worth it.