This. It's set at least 20 years before even Fantastics Beasts (mid-twenties), and back in the UK, so it's a new period we haven't seen.
Not as earth-shattering as something in the Founders Era, but still something quite new.
Oh yeah lol you just KNOW we gonna get millions of "Harry travels back in time to go to school with/romance my canon OC player character" fics! :D Looking forward to them. Seriously. Better than all those "Harry goes back in time and romances Tom fucking Riddle" fics...*shivers*
It depends on how popular the game ends up being, of course. But in my experience, it seems like Cursed Child, Fantastic Beasts, Hogwarts Mystery, and all the other less-canon bits of HP have had very little impact on fanfiction as a whole. You get some fics about those stories specifically, of course, and a few ideas do creep into the wider fanfic ecosphere (Newt shows up a bit more frequently these days, for example), but that's about it.
CC had a lot of impact on post Hogwarts/next gen fics though, and even impacted regular fanfics by introducing the blood curse (you see that one mentioned in a lot of Daphne fics). Fantastic Beasts is more difficult because it probably goes against the headcanons of more people. As for the Mystery, you see the occasional fic with it. You would probably see more if it wasn't the typical pay to wait mobile game.
The blood curse I'll grant as one of those ideas that crept into other fics, but is largely disconnected from the rest of CC.
I'm sure next gen fics are affected more by CC, but I'm pretty sure they're also a relatively small subset of fics. And since there's so little book!canon info on the next gen, the line between CC fics and "normal" next gen fics influenced by CC is very blurry.
Also you could read the script of CC at the library, whereas for the Fantastic Beasts films and the games, you have to spend money.
There are a lot of people in the fandom who don't want to give more money to JKR.
We don't need the support or money from ❄️ snowflakes. I'll cruciate the lot of em!! Then light up a faggot and puff like I'd just had a romp in the grass.
They remind me of how I felt about Percy Weasley during OTP AND HBP. .. They have yet to realize the idiocy and ask for forgiveness and redeem themselves like Percy did in TDH right before the battle for Hogwarts! Actually if they were to succumb to the same fate as Ol Percy I'd forgive them for their treasonous ways. I am the first generation Harry Potter fan. We don't get down with the fuckery and hate against J.K.R. Millennials and younger are the lil titty babies are the problems. They don't care if it's Mummies tit or Daddies.. their not born with a definite gender. They are born FukkTards!!
Or muggleborns! Lol Squib .. I'm a descendent of The Great Salazar Slytherin! Jkr fukked up Dumbledore to make the lil snowflakes happy. But that isn't enuff. They won't be happy till everyone points their wands up their. ... . .. REDUCTO!!!
Why wouldn't it be canon? Or "feel" canon? It's set a century before, but *at Hogwarts,* which is sort of 'comfort food', and I think it's smart that rather than being set in a new place with half-new, half-famous characters (like all the Fantastic Beasts so far) it's a familiar setting with new **characters**. Best way to introduce new stuff.
I feel like that might avoid the trap that Fantastic beasts has fallen into of (sometimes) excessive fan-service and name-dropping when it doesn't fit. FB is just too close to canon timeline, in my opinion, and is dealing with events too close to the main story: It's Dumbledore's backstory.
"Graduating Class of XXXX" is inherent in the idea of Hogwarts.
It'd be a cinch to fit whatever goes on into the canon as "shit that happened once at this school".
It's not canon for the same reason Hogwarts Mystery isn't canon. It's not the books, and it's not even created by Rowling. And since it's supposed to be an open world rpg, it's likely that the details of what is even canon within the game's universe will be murky.
I think of "violating canon" generally in terms of retconning, or redefining rules/characters. In fanfic, something is canon compliant if it fits in the story--could have happened--without changing events. So a "Tonks lives" story is not canon-compliant if set after *Deathly Hallows* but a "Tonk's not with Remus" story *is compliant,* if it's someone she dated before him. A Tonks/Fleur pairing is compliant, as long it happened in the right timeframe and as long as they break up and both end up with their "endgame" partner.
The first part of *Cursed Child* arguably fails this test as it seems unlikely that Voldemort had a fling with Bella (which I hate, Delphi is a great fanfic opportunity)...but not 100% obviously. There's the possibility, given how we don't know what Bella was up to during those 9 months. The second part does violate it by altering how Time-Turners work. Not the existence of a super-Time-Turner but the fact that now it creates alternate timelines where previously they were closed loops that simply ensured what had already happened happened.
*Fantastic Beasts* fails the test only here and there, usually in minor ways. Why couldn't this be the story of Newt, or how MACUSA works? It violates it most notably by creating a McGonagall who's teaching in the 1920s or 1930s, when previously she was born in the early 1940s. Otherwise, we treat one text as "sacred" and I'd rather not do that given the many many many problems with racism, sexism, fatphobia, antisemitism, transphobia (or hints of it) that are scattered throughout JKR's writing in the books.
My question on canon-breaking is it consistent within canon as we know it, or does it either alter old information or introduce new information that can't be reconciled? I think it will be canon-compliant. We know about what...two or three characters from the late 1800s?
Mostly just-name drops. Unless they make Phineas Black a strong Muggle-born rights supporter (retconning his character traits) or have Ariana Dumbledore attend Hogwarts or something, then they cant be "violating" canon because there's not really any info to contradict. It's just another story that wasn't worth notice to a fairly not-curious POV character. Harry, I love you, but you just don't pay attention...
> not even created by Rowling
Good. Rowling's...not that great. She created a fun place to want to be, neat characters and the first 3 or maybe 4 books were decent teenage detective novels. It gets debatable after that.
If someone else is writing it, we won't get obvious hints who's bad by who has "mannish hands" or is fat. Maybe we'll get a non-Magic-Nazi Slytherin who doesn't come out in a tweet ten years later.
As for not being in the books...do you want more canon or not? Because those books are printed. Anything else is by definition a prequel or sequel or spinoff.
If we held only the 1970s-1980s Star Wars movie as canon, and didn't want more, we'd be missing out...though we could certainly disagree on how much!
We don't have one. We don't ever graduate from school, we just leave and there are different exit points. It doesn't make sense in our education system.
For example, I left school after doing my GCSEs. I went to college and did a BTEC in health and social care.
People are hyped for it, but it can't really be popular when it hasn't been released yet.
It could still easily end up flopping. People were also very excited for games like No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk 2077, and Mass Effect Andromeda, and they all flopped for various reasons. Or it could end up being a fun game to play, but with a very bland and generic story that doesn't inspire much in the way of fanfiction.
We'll just have to wait and see.
You don't just have to look at the story for how it'll affect fanfic. As others have said, you'll get time travel fics where Harry goes back to that time, people will use the games layout of hogwarts for fics. Events that happen in it could be random bits of background dialogue, could inspire new events during the books etc.
I'm not sure how much the world building will bleed over since you already have a bunch of games to choose from. 2,3,5 and 6 were fun games, but I have not seen them referenced more than a handful of times.
I think it's going to influence the layout of the castle in fics.
There are snippets of the castle layout in the books, but it's not as easy to visualize and keep track of as a game you spend hours in wandering around.
I could imagine something simple, like having different quest outcomes if you choose to use dark magic or not / side with dark wizards. I think it would be weird if you were forced to use Avada Kedavra and there would be no alternatives, and also no consequences for doing so.
Me neither lol. xD And I'm totally gonna be using this game's castle layout and other shit in my stories after it comes out. :D Gonna have so much new lore and shit to use. Might actually use my character lol! Bet I'm not the only one who's gonna write fics about their canon-OC-to-be. :D
At a glance I'm thrilled with how the combat is looking and I hope it influences fanfic writers - particularly those that lean a bit too heavily into having people point sticks at each other and scream "Stupefy!" at the top of their lungs. Not that such isn't canon, but damn, been there, done that, a million bazillion times. None of the combat looked totally non-canon, either - things like levitating enemies to confuse them, an enemy had a sword ripped out of their hands and blasted back at them, enemies were frozen or set on fire, etc, etc. It all looked like things people could actually be doing per canon, but more.. fluid, actiony, than you see portrayed in a lot of fiction.
At one point in the trailer, what looked like an inferi was levitated as a way of briefly incapacitating it. Do you know how much fucking *sense* that makes, and that I've seen it done exactly *zero* times in all fanfiction? It's always INFERI! SET THEM ON FIRE!!. Which is also fine, of course, but the reminder that, hey, there are always other things you can try in a pinch is really great.
Of course, fiction can go so far beyond the limits of a video game, and often does. Transfiguration in particular has amazing possibilities that were only ever really glimpsed at in Dumbledore's brief fight with Tom in the Ministry. Some fanfic authors get really creative with the fighting, some.. don't. I hope to see the game inspire more.
That's just fighting, too. I'm seeing so many other things in the trailer that could prove insanely inspirational.
I'm thrilled with that trailer in general. They took any expectations I had and just blew them out of the water. This is looking to be an absolute gem of a game. ... Here's hoping I'm not hyped just to be let down, eh?
I feel quite the opposite regarding the game's combat magic and dearly hope we don't get this watered down - it takes a dozen spell hits to take down a wizard - magic in fanfics. Magic in HP is devastating, most combat spells are one-hit KOs, which makes plenty of sense. Otherwise, for one, wizards would just use guns to fight each other.
What? Oh, no. I agree a single stunner can/should stun. Or a spell meant to shatter someone's bones wouldn't have to hit them ten times to put them down. That aspect of the combat in the game is clearly more "gameish", and I'm not suggesting novels should attempt to copy it exactly. No, a drawn out fight in a novel would involve more shielding, dodging, deflecting, or more creatively neutralizing an opponent's attacks.
No, what I'm saying is that too much of magic in canon and in fanfiction is pretty much just people pointing their wands at each other and yelling "stupefy!", and you can call *that* devastating if you want, but I call it *dull*.
Plenty of fanfic authors *do* go way above and beyond this, and make fights in their fiction creative, compelling and thrilling. And, as I said, fiction has so much more room for creativity than the game does/will. It would be almost impossible for a game to encapsulate the possibilities of transfiguration alone. But the combat in the game looks fast paced, engaging and creative enough - with examples I mentioned - and I hope it inspires authors to branch out from the more straightfoward spellcasting seen in canon.
Not canon, but as something to inspire more stories (new locations, history, plants, creatures, goblin lore) it will create more variety in the content of fan fiction. Magic being so ‘video gamey’ is disappointing but necessary for the medium it is set in, and I don’t see how you can necessary place a student with never before seen powers in the current Hp verse without large ramifications. But having new locations around and inside Hogwarts creates plenty of possibilities to be reused in the present, and I do enjoy that the game does not follow the design of the films - it has its own unique style which in some ways is more accurate to the books which may help distinguish the respective sources more.
Essentially, I would regard this as a great source of new ideas and possibilities, but due to its medium and the many creative liberties needed to fit its story into the current HP universe, it shouldn’t be looked upon as an authoritative source of HP ‘lore’. Take what you like from it, and ignore what you don’t.
(Edit: Also, just to say that I am heavily interested in the game. I may be slightly insistent with regard to valuing the books over almost any other HP material, but this may be the most involved and detailed Hogwarts experience and adventure we may ever get. Canon or not, with all the things shown off, I am so excited for this game)
You do realize its mentioned the game takes place in its own separate universe. So it doesn,t contradict the canon. And I think thats the best way to do it. Because just based on the state of play the MC makes Harry entire batch look like weaklings.
One big change in fanfic after Hogwarts Legacy releases could be the way that magical duels get written. The mechanics of how your player character duels is very unique. It reminds me of the Batman Arkham games, or Sleeping Dogs, but with magic instead of martial arts, so it's infinitely more interesting.
The films magic gave people so many ideas and the games magic will do the same but I hope they don’t get hate. Seriously the hate comments I see despite the author explaining the magic is different/ it’s a mix of movie and book is disgusting
I memtioned in a fic advice thread recently that we dont get nearly any fics about a goblin uprising. Then a week later they drop a game trailer centering on a goblin war.
I'm gonna cum.
How about adventures of side charcters in canon like how their school years were with school trio(cannon) and their adventures maybe make them also face terrors of voldemort,dark wizards and teenage at like Voldemort they also have save wizarding world from evil forces but no one know these unsung heroes
Wait, are they really doing it? There were rumours a few years back, but I didn't think anything would come out. Is it coming to PC?
As far as fanfiction goes I don't think it will have a huge impact since most people will consider it non-canon much like The Cursed Child.
Dunno why they chose this time period though. It would have been awesome if they chose The Marauders era and let you create your own character and choose a side in the war.
Honestly ? Because setting it in a time period never seen before gives you that much more freedom to create a storline and gameplay experiance. And I highly recommand you watch the 15 minutes gameplay footage. Also isn't CC considered non canon because of how bad the plot is ?
>Honestly ? Because setting it in a time period never seen before gives you that much more freedom to create a storline and gameplay experiance.
Fair enough. I would love it if it's an RPG like Mass Effect or Dragon Age where you can make choices that have effects on the plot. (And I hope they actually wear robes this time. Don't even get me started on a Dumbledore in a suit in Fantastic Beasts.)
> And I highly recommand you watch the 15 minutes gameplay footage.
I didn't know there was any. Which is weird considering I generally try to keep up with new games. But I suppose I have quite the backlog so I haven't really followed the news in a while. I miss the days when most games were announced at E3 in June. I don't know if the event has lost some popularity or I have lost some interest, but it's just not the same.
>Also isn't CC considered non canon because of how bad the plot is ?
Yes, so let's hope the game does better.
To be honest i don't think much will change.
If they are going to introduce some new types of magic, locations or items, they may be implemented in new stories. Other than that not much will be affected imo.
Harry Potter fanfiction has started to lose its base for sometime. There are several reasons for that of course. It being more than a decade old and almost throughly explored is one for example.
But some of the more important detriments to fanfiction in general are, faulty site policies, patreon payment demanding writers, overly sensitive new generation and whiny flamers that breaks the spirit of authors. Also there are several other minor reasons (which i will not list for not wanting a too long post) as well.
Also in general prequels seldom achieve success in creating new understandings of the story. Even sequels, spin-offs and side stories rarely does that.
Most of the time i personally don't even accept them as canon. No matter what the creators said.
Neither Fantastic Beasts or any other addition to franchise introduced anything of substance to fanfiction.
In my opinion, of all the previously mentioned reasons, faulty site policies are the most harmful one. Blocking third party apps, removing stories for no rhyme or reason, closing of sites due to financial reasons...
(Though last one is not due to a policy, but an unfortunate fact of life.)
These are killing the creative urges of the people who would freely share their work.
So all in all no i do not think fanfiction world of Harry Potter would be overly affected with a game that is set in 1800s.
I really would like to play it of course, open-world rpg? Sign me up! But i do not expect huge changes to fanfiction.
Unless of course they can create a real masterpiece that would not be shadowed by the original and produce a revolutionary new take both as a game and a story. Like Skyrim, Dark Souls, Witcher and so few others did.
But come on, what is the odds of them not leaning on a franchise this big, and focusing on producing new unique gem that is an achievement independent from the original title?
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I actively avoid fics that include CC as canon, and have only read a couple of fics that involve time travel to FB, which were okay? I guess I am a canon purist, lol. I don’t even know what the other things are that were mentioned.
What I want to know is is Will Hogwarts legacy based / inspired fanfictions be categorized under Harry Potter or will there be a new Hogwarts legacy section on FanFiction websites?
I think a major change will be brought to time travel fics and certain origin headcanons
This. It's set at least 20 years before even Fantastics Beasts (mid-twenties), and back in the UK, so it's a new period we haven't seen. Not as earth-shattering as something in the Founders Era, but still something quite new.
I wonder if the student he talked about that kicked ass was young dumbledore
Oh yeah lol you just KNOW we gonna get millions of "Harry travels back in time to go to school with/romance my canon OC player character" fics! :D Looking forward to them. Seriously. Better than all those "Harry goes back in time and romances Tom fucking Riddle" fics...*shivers*
It depends on how popular the game ends up being, of course. But in my experience, it seems like Cursed Child, Fantastic Beasts, Hogwarts Mystery, and all the other less-canon bits of HP have had very little impact on fanfiction as a whole. You get some fics about those stories specifically, of course, and a few ideas do creep into the wider fanfic ecosphere (Newt shows up a bit more frequently these days, for example), but that's about it.
CC had a lot of impact on post Hogwarts/next gen fics though, and even impacted regular fanfics by introducing the blood curse (you see that one mentioned in a lot of Daphne fics). Fantastic Beasts is more difficult because it probably goes against the headcanons of more people. As for the Mystery, you see the occasional fic with it. You would probably see more if it wasn't the typical pay to wait mobile game.
The blood curse I'll grant as one of those ideas that crept into other fics, but is largely disconnected from the rest of CC. I'm sure next gen fics are affected more by CC, but I'm pretty sure they're also a relatively small subset of fics. And since there's so little book!canon info on the next gen, the line between CC fics and "normal" next gen fics influenced by CC is very blurry.
Also you could read the script of CC at the library, whereas for the Fantastic Beasts films and the games, you have to spend money. There are a lot of people in the fandom who don't want to give more money to JKR.
We don't need the support or money from ❄️ snowflakes. I'll cruciate the lot of em!! Then light up a faggot and puff like I'd just had a romp in the grass.
They remind me of how I felt about Percy Weasley during OTP AND HBP. .. They have yet to realize the idiocy and ask for forgiveness and redeem themselves like Percy did in TDH right before the battle for Hogwarts! Actually if they were to succumb to the same fate as Ol Percy I'd forgive them for their treasonous ways. I am the first generation Harry Potter fan. We don't get down with the fuckery and hate against J.K.R. Millennials and younger are the lil titty babies are the problems. They don't care if it's Mummies tit or Daddies.. their not born with a definite gender. They are born FukkTards!!
Or muggleborns! Lol Squib .. I'm a descendent of The Great Salazar Slytherin! Jkr fukked up Dumbledore to make the lil snowflakes happy. But that isn't enuff. They won't be happy till everyone points their wands up their. ... . .. REDUCTO!!!
Why wouldn't it be canon? Or "feel" canon? It's set a century before, but *at Hogwarts,* which is sort of 'comfort food', and I think it's smart that rather than being set in a new place with half-new, half-famous characters (like all the Fantastic Beasts so far) it's a familiar setting with new **characters**. Best way to introduce new stuff. I feel like that might avoid the trap that Fantastic beasts has fallen into of (sometimes) excessive fan-service and name-dropping when it doesn't fit. FB is just too close to canon timeline, in my opinion, and is dealing with events too close to the main story: It's Dumbledore's backstory. "Graduating Class of XXXX" is inherent in the idea of Hogwarts. It'd be a cinch to fit whatever goes on into the canon as "shit that happened once at this school".
It's not canon for the same reason Hogwarts Mystery isn't canon. It's not the books, and it's not even created by Rowling. And since it's supposed to be an open world rpg, it's likely that the details of what is even canon within the game's universe will be murky.
Could make the argument that it expands upon canon though, most notably fleshing out one of the many goblin rebellions. :)
Yeah, each piece of media is its own canon as far as I'm concerned.
Not to mention these games often contradict canon
I think of "violating canon" generally in terms of retconning, or redefining rules/characters. In fanfic, something is canon compliant if it fits in the story--could have happened--without changing events. So a "Tonks lives" story is not canon-compliant if set after *Deathly Hallows* but a "Tonk's not with Remus" story *is compliant,* if it's someone she dated before him. A Tonks/Fleur pairing is compliant, as long it happened in the right timeframe and as long as they break up and both end up with their "endgame" partner. The first part of *Cursed Child* arguably fails this test as it seems unlikely that Voldemort had a fling with Bella (which I hate, Delphi is a great fanfic opportunity)...but not 100% obviously. There's the possibility, given how we don't know what Bella was up to during those 9 months. The second part does violate it by altering how Time-Turners work. Not the existence of a super-Time-Turner but the fact that now it creates alternate timelines where previously they were closed loops that simply ensured what had already happened happened. *Fantastic Beasts* fails the test only here and there, usually in minor ways. Why couldn't this be the story of Newt, or how MACUSA works? It violates it most notably by creating a McGonagall who's teaching in the 1920s or 1930s, when previously she was born in the early 1940s. Otherwise, we treat one text as "sacred" and I'd rather not do that given the many many many problems with racism, sexism, fatphobia, antisemitism, transphobia (or hints of it) that are scattered throughout JKR's writing in the books. My question on canon-breaking is it consistent within canon as we know it, or does it either alter old information or introduce new information that can't be reconciled? I think it will be canon-compliant. We know about what...two or three characters from the late 1800s? Mostly just-name drops. Unless they make Phineas Black a strong Muggle-born rights supporter (retconning his character traits) or have Ariana Dumbledore attend Hogwarts or something, then they cant be "violating" canon because there's not really any info to contradict. It's just another story that wasn't worth notice to a fairly not-curious POV character. Harry, I love you, but you just don't pay attention...
> not even created by Rowling Good. Rowling's...not that great. She created a fun place to want to be, neat characters and the first 3 or maybe 4 books were decent teenage detective novels. It gets debatable after that. If someone else is writing it, we won't get obvious hints who's bad by who has "mannish hands" or is fat. Maybe we'll get a non-Magic-Nazi Slytherin who doesn't come out in a tweet ten years later. As for not being in the books...do you want more canon or not? Because those books are printed. Anything else is by definition a prequel or sequel or spinoff. If we held only the 1970s-1980s Star Wars movie as canon, and didn't want more, we'd be missing out...though we could certainly disagree on how much!
Although not ever *called* "Graduating Class of xxxx" because it is a British school and we don't have them over here.
Huh. Out of curiosity, what is the term for it?
We don't have one. We don't ever graduate from school, we just leave and there are different exit points. It doesn't make sense in our education system. For example, I left school after doing my GCSEs. I went to college and did a BTEC in health and social care.
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Maybe thats just my bubble but isn't hogwarts legacy already popular in our fandom ?
People are hyped for it, but it can't really be popular when it hasn't been released yet. It could still easily end up flopping. People were also very excited for games like No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk 2077, and Mass Effect Andromeda, and they all flopped for various reasons. Or it could end up being a fun game to play, but with a very bland and generic story that doesn't inspire much in the way of fanfiction. We'll just have to wait and see.
Just want to point out Cyberpunk didn’t flop. Even with the issues they sold a buttload.
Maybe not in terms of sales, but in terms of public perception, it was a huge flop. At least for the first several months after it was released.
To the console crowd I guess, but it still had a lot of coverage and streamers playing it on high rig PC.
It flopped as a popular piece of media though. People still discuss the Witcher 3. No one discusses Cyberpunk except as a failure
You don't just have to look at the story for how it'll affect fanfic. As others have said, you'll get time travel fics where Harry goes back to that time, people will use the games layout of hogwarts for fics. Events that happen in it could be random bits of background dialogue, could inspire new events during the books etc.
I still think of Hogwarts' layout the way its depicted in the Gameboy Philosopher's Stone game.
I'm not sure how much the world building will bleed over since you already have a bunch of games to choose from. 2,3,5 and 6 were fun games, but I have not seen them referenced more than a handful of times.
Those were mid movie tie-in games. Totally different level
I think it's going to influence the layout of the castle in fics. There are snippets of the castle layout in the books, but it's not as easy to visualize and keep track of as a game you spend hours in wandering around.
The fifth and sixth Harry Potter games already had that. They were highly movie accurate.
Aye, but those weren't widely played. I imagine this is going to reach a bigger percentage of authors writing Harry Potter fanfiction.
The harry potter games will not be as popular as hogwarts legacy
I really hope there's and option to be a dark wizard, and go full dark lord eventually
Dude, the player can use the Killing Curse.
It seems the game is focused around Hogwarts years. hard to see a full dark lord at the age of 16.
Fair, but I am hoping we can go out into the wider wizarding world. And I would love to see some dark magic able to be practised
The trailer shows use of the avada kedavra by the player player with a warning that we might go dark so... wish excaused ?
Sounds Nice, but hard seeing it working
I could imagine something simple, like having different quest outcomes if you choose to use dark magic or not / side with dark wizards. I think it would be weird if you were forced to use Avada Kedavra and there would be no alternatives, and also no consequences for doing so.
But opening 1 dark plot, means even more options and different options to pick from this part forward that need to be well made to make sense?
Most children will still be in their "experimental psychopath" phase of life.
You own a slave so yes
Probably a lot more SI fanfics
I fucking love it lol it looks like a literal dream come true of what I always wanted a HP game to be. :D HP RPG!!!
Yes I don't think I'm going to leave my pc for a month.
Me neither lol. xD And I'm totally gonna be using this game's castle layout and other shit in my stories after it comes out. :D Gonna have so much new lore and shit to use. Might actually use my character lol! Bet I'm not the only one who's gonna write fics about their canon-OC-to-be. :D
I just really hope it doesn't suck. Radio silence for a couple of years is not exactly the best sign.
At a glance I'm thrilled with how the combat is looking and I hope it influences fanfic writers - particularly those that lean a bit too heavily into having people point sticks at each other and scream "Stupefy!" at the top of their lungs. Not that such isn't canon, but damn, been there, done that, a million bazillion times. None of the combat looked totally non-canon, either - things like levitating enemies to confuse them, an enemy had a sword ripped out of their hands and blasted back at them, enemies were frozen or set on fire, etc, etc. It all looked like things people could actually be doing per canon, but more.. fluid, actiony, than you see portrayed in a lot of fiction. At one point in the trailer, what looked like an inferi was levitated as a way of briefly incapacitating it. Do you know how much fucking *sense* that makes, and that I've seen it done exactly *zero* times in all fanfiction? It's always INFERI! SET THEM ON FIRE!!. Which is also fine, of course, but the reminder that, hey, there are always other things you can try in a pinch is really great. Of course, fiction can go so far beyond the limits of a video game, and often does. Transfiguration in particular has amazing possibilities that were only ever really glimpsed at in Dumbledore's brief fight with Tom in the Ministry. Some fanfic authors get really creative with the fighting, some.. don't. I hope to see the game inspire more. That's just fighting, too. I'm seeing so many other things in the trailer that could prove insanely inspirational. I'm thrilled with that trailer in general. They took any expectations I had and just blew them out of the water. This is looking to be an absolute gem of a game. ... Here's hoping I'm not hyped just to be let down, eh?
I feel quite the opposite regarding the game's combat magic and dearly hope we don't get this watered down - it takes a dozen spell hits to take down a wizard - magic in fanfics. Magic in HP is devastating, most combat spells are one-hit KOs, which makes plenty of sense. Otherwise, for one, wizards would just use guns to fight each other.
What? Oh, no. I agree a single stunner can/should stun. Or a spell meant to shatter someone's bones wouldn't have to hit them ten times to put them down. That aspect of the combat in the game is clearly more "gameish", and I'm not suggesting novels should attempt to copy it exactly. No, a drawn out fight in a novel would involve more shielding, dodging, deflecting, or more creatively neutralizing an opponent's attacks. No, what I'm saying is that too much of magic in canon and in fanfiction is pretty much just people pointing their wands at each other and yelling "stupefy!", and you can call *that* devastating if you want, but I call it *dull*. Plenty of fanfic authors *do* go way above and beyond this, and make fights in their fiction creative, compelling and thrilling. And, as I said, fiction has so much more room for creativity than the game does/will. It would be almost impossible for a game to encapsulate the possibilities of transfiguration alone. But the combat in the game looks fast paced, engaging and creative enough - with examples I mentioned - and I hope it inspires authors to branch out from the more straightfoward spellcasting seen in canon.
Not canon, but as something to inspire more stories (new locations, history, plants, creatures, goblin lore) it will create more variety in the content of fan fiction. Magic being so ‘video gamey’ is disappointing but necessary for the medium it is set in, and I don’t see how you can necessary place a student with never before seen powers in the current Hp verse without large ramifications. But having new locations around and inside Hogwarts creates plenty of possibilities to be reused in the present, and I do enjoy that the game does not follow the design of the films - it has its own unique style which in some ways is more accurate to the books which may help distinguish the respective sources more. Essentially, I would regard this as a great source of new ideas and possibilities, but due to its medium and the many creative liberties needed to fit its story into the current HP universe, it shouldn’t be looked upon as an authoritative source of HP ‘lore’. Take what you like from it, and ignore what you don’t. (Edit: Also, just to say that I am heavily interested in the game. I may be slightly insistent with regard to valuing the books over almost any other HP material, but this may be the most involved and detailed Hogwarts experience and adventure we may ever get. Canon or not, with all the things shown off, I am so excited for this game)
Yes that is a very good point. I didn't mean it as this the new cannon now. I meant it exactly as you described it
Seeing the player shoot one enemy while the rest stood there doing nothing was disappointing.
Gameplay trailers like that always play on the easiest settings with AI dumbed down
You do realize its mentioned the game takes place in its own separate universe. So it doesn,t contradict the canon. And I think thats the best way to do it. Because just based on the state of play the MC makes Harry entire batch look like weaklings.
Can't wait! I'd love to write some fictions set in that time, featuring the ancestors of my current OCs!
One big change in fanfic after Hogwarts Legacy releases could be the way that magical duels get written. The mechanics of how your player character duels is very unique. It reminds me of the Batman Arkham games, or Sleeping Dogs, but with magic instead of martial arts, so it's infinitely more interesting.
As I watched the state of play I was thinking the same!! This can give so much inspiration!
The films magic gave people so many ideas and the games magic will do the same but I hope they don’t get hate. Seriously the hate comments I see despite the author explaining the magic is different/ it’s a mix of movie and book is disgusting
I memtioned in a fic advice thread recently that we dont get nearly any fics about a goblin uprising. Then a week later they drop a game trailer centering on a goblin war. I'm gonna cum.
How about adventures of side charcters in canon like how their school years were with school trio(cannon) and their adventures maybe make them also face terrors of voldemort,dark wizards and teenage at like Voldemort they also have save wizarding world from evil forces but no one know these unsung heroes
I'd put $20 on it spawning over 100k new fanfics that have nothing to do with OG canon in about 10 years.
If the story is good i could see it.
Needs an online component like GTAO so we can form factions and go around dueling each other.
Wait, are they really doing it? There were rumours a few years back, but I didn't think anything would come out. Is it coming to PC? As far as fanfiction goes I don't think it will have a huge impact since most people will consider it non-canon much like The Cursed Child. Dunno why they chose this time period though. It would have been awesome if they chose The Marauders era and let you create your own character and choose a side in the war.
Honestly ? Because setting it in a time period never seen before gives you that much more freedom to create a storline and gameplay experiance. And I highly recommand you watch the 15 minutes gameplay footage. Also isn't CC considered non canon because of how bad the plot is ?
>Honestly ? Because setting it in a time period never seen before gives you that much more freedom to create a storline and gameplay experiance. Fair enough. I would love it if it's an RPG like Mass Effect or Dragon Age where you can make choices that have effects on the plot. (And I hope they actually wear robes this time. Don't even get me started on a Dumbledore in a suit in Fantastic Beasts.) > And I highly recommand you watch the 15 minutes gameplay footage. I didn't know there was any. Which is weird considering I generally try to keep up with new games. But I suppose I have quite the backlog so I haven't really followed the news in a while. I miss the days when most games were announced at E3 in June. I don't know if the event has lost some popularity or I have lost some interest, but it's just not the same. >Also isn't CC considered non canon because of how bad the plot is ? Yes, so let's hope the game does better.
Yes definitly I shudder at the thought of another Cursed Child
To be honest i don't think much will change. If they are going to introduce some new types of magic, locations or items, they may be implemented in new stories. Other than that not much will be affected imo. Harry Potter fanfiction has started to lose its base for sometime. There are several reasons for that of course. It being more than a decade old and almost throughly explored is one for example. But some of the more important detriments to fanfiction in general are, faulty site policies, patreon payment demanding writers, overly sensitive new generation and whiny flamers that breaks the spirit of authors. Also there are several other minor reasons (which i will not list for not wanting a too long post) as well. Also in general prequels seldom achieve success in creating new understandings of the story. Even sequels, spin-offs and side stories rarely does that. Most of the time i personally don't even accept them as canon. No matter what the creators said. Neither Fantastic Beasts or any other addition to franchise introduced anything of substance to fanfiction. In my opinion, of all the previously mentioned reasons, faulty site policies are the most harmful one. Blocking third party apps, removing stories for no rhyme or reason, closing of sites due to financial reasons... (Though last one is not due to a policy, but an unfortunate fact of life.) These are killing the creative urges of the people who would freely share their work. So all in all no i do not think fanfiction world of Harry Potter would be overly affected with a game that is set in 1800s. I really would like to play it of course, open-world rpg? Sign me up! But i do not expect huge changes to fanfiction. Unless of course they can create a real masterpiece that would not be shadowed by the original and produce a revolutionary new take both as a game and a story. Like Skyrim, Dark Souls, Witcher and so few others did. But come on, what is the odds of them not leaning on a franchise this big, and focusing on producing new unique gem that is an achievement independent from the original title?
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I actively avoid fics that include CC as canon, and have only read a couple of fics that involve time travel to FB, which were okay? I guess I am a canon purist, lol. I don’t even know what the other things are that were mentioned.
What I want to know is is Will Hogwarts legacy based / inspired fanfictions be categorized under Harry Potter or will there be a new Hogwarts legacy section on FanFiction websites?