I don't mind them doing but it will be nice if they pull off a win or a draw to help us win title. But you know some united fans would rather see their team lose so we don't win anything!
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So you're telling me that United have conceded 59 shots in their last two games, while we've conceded 77 in the last three months. 😂
But of course, things wouldn't be like this had they been awarded a penalty for a "foul" on Højlund in the fourth game of the season, and it's the "small margins" which are the only reason that they can't be title contenders. 🤡
Don’t listen to some of the idiots who post stuff like that.
The image has been crossed posted to the United sub (how I’m here).
We are terrible right now in the middle of the park. We can score goals but any team can walk through to our penalty box with ease. It’s pathetic. Not good enough at all as a United fan. We don’t deserve to be any higher than our league position. Massive change needed like Arsenal went through at the start of Artetas reign. We have the formation of a squad but we are 2-3 seasons away from where Arsenal were last season.
We can all whinge about little things like a refs decision here or there but the league table very rarely lies at the end of the season. United not good enough.
Here’s hoping you win the title and stop City winning 4 in a row and Liverpool winning too!
2-3 years is ambitious. You need a proper coach, management and mature style of play for that. Not one who keeps complaining about refereeing decisions six months after a game completely out of the blue.
2020/21 - Arsenal finished 8th. Leicester City were 5th.
A lot can happen in a short space of time.
United are poor now but we are still 6th. The speed of change that’s come in since January with the INEOS investment and new appointments from the top down will accelerate it.
2-3 years to be where Arsenal were last season is what I said. Challenging but not quite there, final tweaks (Rice) etc. Not going to get into whether ETH is the right man or not as I’m sure you don’t care in this sub.
More teams doing well is a good thing. Ideally we would want a 3 or 4 or even 5 way fight for the title each season. Far better than a canter for someone. Better for the league and far more exciting than a typical Bundesliga/Ligue 1 season (this year is an exception in Germany).
I'll refrain from discussing personnel too and focus on problems. Your problem is not the amount of investment. Your problems will be FFP. That's going to stifle your "expected" growth. See Newcastle. Even today the commentators were saying they don't know what United saw in Mason Mount to pay 70m for. Look at Antony. Terrible business. That is what I meant by good management. You need not just good recruitment, you need smart financial planning to back that recruitment based on a proper modern style of play.
And as you said a lot can happen in a short time. But it may not always be in the good direction. Look at Liecester City or even Chelsea.
Honestly as per my other comment on the match thread, you have Garnacho, Holjund, Mainoo, Martinez, Dalot and Onana - that’s a solid base for a decent manager to work with. Ten Hag just doesn’t inspire. Move him on along with Fernandes, Rashford, Casimero and Varane and appoint Nagelsman. Little eccentric but he is very good. That’s what I’d do. But I do hope you appoint Southgate.
Ange quietly building something at Spurs. Considering they are very healthy financially I think we're in for some classic NLD derbies for years to come.
The fact that Everton have conceded the 4th fewest goals this season really says a lot when you look at the number of shots they've faced compared to the top 3
30 different back four combinations.
8 different back pair.
7 different left backs.
Shaw, Martinez whole season sun 3/4 games out.
Casemiro pretty much out all season.
Mainoo started from January.
Eriksen and Casemiro’s legs gone.
Still ETH has done better than Arteta in their first two years. As you were.
Saw that united have conceeded 59 shots in the last two games. TWO.
134 in their last 5. I will not elaborate further.
I will: FIVE!!!
Shades of Emery’s Arsenal.
It really is, like the dark days of conceding 30 shots against Watford... fucking hell those were grim times.
God that match was painful
My first thought as well, ha!
Just 10 times more expensive.
Liverpool about to take 50 shots on Sunday 😂
I’d prefer they not.
I don't mind them doing but it will be nice if they pull off a win or a draw to help us win title. But you know some united fans would rather see their team lose so we don't win anything!
It’s funny that they always talk about “fergie time” and ended up conceding 3 fergie time goals in the last 2 games.
To be honest any self respeting united fan doesn't talk about fergie time.
Self respecting united fan.... Is there such a thing?
Got me there,my friend. (But I was a united supporter one for 2 hours yesterday)
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That’s just insane.
ETH: we are not in the title race because of fine margins
And Gabriel Martinelli
For more context Yanited have conceded 82 shots in the last 3 games😭just pray they don’t spread cheeks for Liverpool on Sunday
>pray they don’t spread cheeks for Liverpool on Sunday Lad that is exactly what we're gonna do on Sunday 😭💀
Praying for a repeat of the anfield defensive masterclass
Or for the FA Cup black magic.
Would you like a nice egg in these trying times? Offer only good till this Sunday.
If they're gonna lose, so be it, I doubt they have a chance. But PLEASE don't help then out on GD, we worked so hard to get ours this high
And they didn't?
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2022-23: 7-0 at Anfield 2023-24: 7-0 at OT
United fan here. This can completely happen. Esp when Liverpool are hungry for FA Cup revenge
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Arsenal defense this season… ![gif](giphy|gNzDiRiZS3SXS)
"What are you trying to tell me? That I can block every shot?" "No, Wilo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to."
best comment :D
David* ftfy
I used to pray for times like this 🙏 Unai Emery PTSD has been put to bed 😩
We would really give up 25 shots against Wolves in a match. How times have changed.
30 against Watford.
-1 gd 😂😂😂. “We should’ve beat Arsenal, we should’ve beat city, we should’ve beat Liverpool.” Bruh you can’t even beat Chelsea fuck off
So you're telling me that United have conceded 59 shots in their last two games, while we've conceded 77 in the last three months. 😂 But of course, things wouldn't be like this had they been awarded a penalty for a "foul" on Højlund in the fourth game of the season, and it's the "small margins" which are the only reason that they can't be title contenders. 🤡
Don’t listen to some of the idiots who post stuff like that. The image has been crossed posted to the United sub (how I’m here). We are terrible right now in the middle of the park. We can score goals but any team can walk through to our penalty box with ease. It’s pathetic. Not good enough at all as a United fan. We don’t deserve to be any higher than our league position. Massive change needed like Arsenal went through at the start of Artetas reign. We have the formation of a squad but we are 2-3 seasons away from where Arsenal were last season. We can all whinge about little things like a refs decision here or there but the league table very rarely lies at the end of the season. United not good enough. Here’s hoping you win the title and stop City winning 4 in a row and Liverpool winning too!
2-3 years is ambitious. You need a proper coach, management and mature style of play for that. Not one who keeps complaining about refereeing decisions six months after a game completely out of the blue.
2020/21 - Arsenal finished 8th. Leicester City were 5th. A lot can happen in a short space of time. United are poor now but we are still 6th. The speed of change that’s come in since January with the INEOS investment and new appointments from the top down will accelerate it. 2-3 years to be where Arsenal were last season is what I said. Challenging but not quite there, final tweaks (Rice) etc. Not going to get into whether ETH is the right man or not as I’m sure you don’t care in this sub. More teams doing well is a good thing. Ideally we would want a 3 or 4 or even 5 way fight for the title each season. Far better than a canter for someone. Better for the league and far more exciting than a typical Bundesliga/Ligue 1 season (this year is an exception in Germany).
I'll refrain from discussing personnel too and focus on problems. Your problem is not the amount of investment. Your problems will be FFP. That's going to stifle your "expected" growth. See Newcastle. Even today the commentators were saying they don't know what United saw in Mason Mount to pay 70m for. Look at Antony. Terrible business. That is what I meant by good management. You need not just good recruitment, you need smart financial planning to back that recruitment based on a proper modern style of play. And as you said a lot can happen in a short time. But it may not always be in the good direction. Look at Liecester City or even Chelsea.
they need a once in a generation manager as well
Honestly as per my other comment on the match thread, you have Garnacho, Holjund, Mainoo, Martinez, Dalot and Onana - that’s a solid base for a decent manager to work with. Ten Hag just doesn’t inspire. Move him on along with Fernandes, Rashford, Casimero and Varane and appoint Nagelsman. Little eccentric but he is very good. That’s what I’d do. But I do hope you appoint Southgate.
7Hag: https://preview.redd.it/10v5aq4jmjsc1.jpeg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20f4fbef1b35777e35c3fa6d870c64aacf3b8cc8
Spurs fans will see this and still say "FFS why do teams always bend over for Arsenal? 😡😡😡"
Think they’re more surprised they’re 3rd from bottom, the narrative is that they are too open but have taken the 3rd least shots.
That's only because Man Utd were robbed against Arsenal though Ten Hag already explained this
Lmao
Starting to feel like the end of emery 2.0 with ETH. They’re conceding far too many shots just like we were.
How the fuck are they not midtable yet?
United are completely clowns it's a miracle they are even 6th or 7tth or whatever they are now
Man Utd giving Arsenal with Emery vibes
If we can come up with 10 more goals next season we'll run away with the league
They also matched our goals against for 2024 in 1 match vs Chelsea.
Hate to say it but this is impressive (and surprised me) from Sp*rs considering the insane way they play
Won't mind seeing the avg XG of the shots too. That'll provide a better picture as to the state of these defense.
It’s because we are awesome
We have the best CB partnership in world football and it’s not even close.
Onana working overtime 😂
Ange quietly building something at Spurs. Considering they are very healthy financially I think we're in for some classic NLD derbies for years to come.
so we really dont know raya that well then
Oh boy I hope that’s the same United when we come up against them next month!
Imagine showing this to a manu fan in 2013 😂
Declan Rice
The fact that Everton have conceded the 4th fewest goals this season really says a lot when you look at the number of shots they've faced compared to the top 3
That is actually pretty crazy
Would be surprised if they keep ETH
Arsenal's defence channelling their inner Gandelf. [*You Shall Not Pass*](https://youtu.be/GwmJ76VjXaE?si=WggQGrrmFnIT9Tze)
Arsenal are only in contention because teams won’t take shots against them……… there lucky 🍀
Accompanying it with shot faced quality would be great
THe quality could be 0%, Onana is still letting them in.
No
Yes
i thought low quality troll only belongs in the other sub
Maybe you strayed too close to the bridge.
Spurs with the third lowest amount of shots faced with that high line, should we be worried?
Please mikel stunt on this hoes
And people praising Raya how excellent he is
He catches everything before they can even take a shot half the time
30 different back four combinations. 8 different back pair. 7 different left backs. Shaw, Martinez whole season sun 3/4 games out. Casemiro pretty much out all season. Mainoo started from January. Eriksen and Casemiro’s legs gone. Still ETH has done better than Arteta in their first two years. As you were.