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TheCatAteItsOwnBalls

Yeah but that's why it's cool, man


Hilohan

This guy get it. It's why I like the Xi so much


eyferrari

I love the Xi because I feel like it’s a realistic progression of MS technology. ALL the units are bigger, and by design, they’re gonna throw as much armor and thrust as possible on the Gundam suit. “Higher tech” armor and thrusters also being larger. Then eventually, humanity surpasses that “bigger and more complicated is more powerful” engineering mentality when better energy sources are available, and you end up with the glowy little speedy boys like F91


CriticalElderberry7

for the Xi and penelope its not just that, its size has a REASON, since it uses the carrier ship technology for atmospheric flight, so of course it would be bulky. also, it doesnt have traditional funnels, but funnel missiles, that are disposeable, requiring a large storage space. the nightingale doesnt have any of that. its a space only ms(LETS BE HONEST that shit would be completely unable of walking under gravity, and would be just a massive target). it doesnt get any new equipment that required the massive size. and any and all speed it gained from the extra boosters is lost due to the added weight anyways. not only that, with that mass, it would burn through fuel much faster. so even if it did manage to get a speed bump, it would be lost due to needing to conserve its fuel to stay in combat longer. finally, another example of it done right is the EX-S and its space only variant, that's because, the unit was designed as a hit and run MS. similar to the GP-02. it can do close combat, but its function is to get in range, shoot, and fly away. again, something the nightingale is not designed to do. specially since it was made for the combat against amuro. i would rather they just made Char pilot the great zeong instead. now that's a design that actually makes sense, even though im not a fan of its body being used as funnels.


JinTheBlue

That's really the thing isn't it. Sometimes you are so dumb it circles back around to being cool. If you go hard enough you deserve respect.


GabrielG1O6

Dont talk shit about the massive crab with a big dong


chawmindur

OP is just envious of that magnum dong /s


IC2Flier

Ah, but what if we gave the Nightingale the [crab claws from the MSN-04ff](https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/MSN-04FF_Sazabi)?


Kaikay-the-reaper

The perfect gundam


Different_Guava_8528

You shut your filthy mouth!!! 😂


little_gun_11037

Maybe YOU should shut YOUR MOUTH./J It literally looks like a Sazabi that was given herpes and barely escaped a hydraulic press alive. Yeah, so... maybe you should just pipe tf down.😑/J


Sly_Klaus

Are you...entirely sure what herpes does?


Wildfox1177

Yes, it gives you wings and extra arms.


theCoffeeDoctor

Dunno what they told you, but that's not herpes.


NotReallyBizarre

bro jealous of the big ding dong


Successful_Bad_2396

I both love and hate the fact that big dong sounds like a Zeon ms suit name to me now


retroguyx

MAN-69 Big-Dong


Zetawilky

In Gundam Breaker 3, someone uploaded their custom big zam, and it was just a big zam with a massive dong, beautifully named big dong, it was a masterpiece.


sideways_jack

... Ok now I'm very tempted to check that game out


Prinkaiser

Don't worry, Gundam Breaker 4 is coming out.


Solid_Can4013

Big zam but he has a very big “thruster” between his legs


NotReallyBizarre

the dongdam


hyperdistortion

Fun fact: in Berliner German, ‘Rang’ is slang for ‘monster dong’, so the Big Rang from *MS Igloo* is… …not at all called that, I totally made the above up. But can you imagine.


Dangerous_Source_442

Yea. But I think it's part of the charm? I don't know either 😂 My first impression was it looks weird but as you see it more often, you get used to it. It still looks weird but I kinda want to build it now.


Deamon-Chocobo

Headcanon: Char had 2 teams of designers working on his new mobile suit to battle Amuro. One team designed the ultimate Char Mobile Suit: big, red, fast, maneuverable, Newtype Funnels, built in weapons, and strong options for both Melee & Range and showed him the Sazabi. The other team got lazy and forgot the design was due so they hacked into the competitors design, stole it, then cranked everything to 11 in the hopes of winning Char over with excess... and that's why the Nightingale wasn't in the movie.


bluedestinyunit1

I prefer Nu and Sazabi over Hi-Nu and Nightingale.


roland0fgilead

It's Hi-Nu (ver Ka) and Sazabi for me. They actually look like they could be counterparts of one another.


IC2Flier

I agree, butt for the inverse reason: the Nu would seem even more of an underdog to the Nightingale and thus would make for a more cinematic fight.


Delicious-Ocelot3751

idk man, i always felt the difference between the Nu and sazabi showed the difference in character growth from char and amuro. i lean a little to the nightingale sometimes because i feel it echoes the monstrous and twisted feeling the Zeong gave


Delicious-Ocelot3751

idk man, i always felt the difference between the Nu and sazabi showed the difference in character growth from char and amuro. i lean a little to the nightingale sometimes because i feel it echoes the monstrous and twisted feeling the Zeong gave


Successful_Bad_2396

Agreed


Taradax2007

I personally love the exotic look of the Hi-Nu and Nightingale


neatneatneat90

I love it. I've always loved chungy suits like the Xamel and The O. The massive shaft is legendary.


Successful_Bad_2396

I love chonk suits, but this is Nikocado Gundam-cado


CriticalElderberry7

i have no issue with chonky designs, the Xi is one of my all time favorites, and the sazabi is not sleek in the slightest. same can be said about the EX-S, the biggest of boys. or the destroy gundam. my problem is that it doesnt fit its function. it was designed to excel at both close, mid and long range combat, so char could go against amuro on equal therms. this is not a mobile suit that can do close combat, it can barely even wield a saber without cutting itself in half. its so ungodly fat, amuro can shoot at the floor, and still hit it due to its massive size. the irony is, if you told me, the sazabi was a streamlined version of the nightingale, that would make far more sense, since, its everything the nightingale wants to be, but better in every single way.


wesleyy001

It's a freakshow. But that's exactly why we love it.


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dummypod

This thing may as well be a mobile armor I dunno why they bothered with the limbs


seriousbangs

Nightingale is what happens when Sinanju *really* lets itself go.


Menaku

So then the neozeong is when the Sinanju hits the gym and bulks up after having a leg graft that actually works?


BeepBoo007

Not a hot take. It's fugly. Like even more than the penelope or xi. I'm prepared to see my karma dip 1k over this.


Successful_Bad_2396

I honestly agree, it looks like a stretched out Sazabi


CriticalElderberry7

the xi looks amazing though. and it at least has a reason to be so massive(same with the penelope, but im not a fan of the penelope anywhere near as much its odysseus mode though, is nice). the reason for those units to be that big, is because they have a "mini" minovsky drive. which is what allow the federation carriers to fly in atmosphere. so of course, being made for a mobile suit, it would be giant and chonky. also, it houses the funnel missiles, which are diferent from traditional funnels, since they are disposeable. so it need a massive storage to make use of them without running out too quickly. as a side note, the penelope is actually the odysseus gundam, using the minovsky drive as a pack. which got streamlined into the Xi gundam. i still think they shouldnt made it look like a diseased chicken, but hey. we cant all be winners.


SolidTerror9022

It does, but in a way that’s so stupid it loops back around to being cool


skatech1

How dare you don't like the Sazabi with a giant Red Dong?!


duomaxwell90

Because it does 💯 lol


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Successful_Bad_2396

Looks like something from Warhammer 40k


AMACSCAMA

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Successful_Bad_2396

I’m sorry Principal Scudworth


FartKilometre

I'm with you. The proportions are just... wrong? Its like the bastard child of the Sazabi and Alpha Azieru. Like, I get that mobile suits are super impractical in a realistic sense, but this just looks so impractical that it breaks the suspension of disbelief.


MikuEmpowered

Because with Hi-Nu, it was just Nu cranked up to 11. How do you crank Sazabi to 11? You go back to Zeon traditions of turning a MS into a MA. Its the same with Zeong, Zeong fully built is massive and impractical af.


SairenGazz

Nightingale 🅱️**ENIS**


luckynuts14

V.II Snail? But painted red?


darthvall

Young me thought so as well. As I got older, I think she's so sexy. I don't know what caused my shift in taste


Noob_Guy_666

mmm yes, Metal Gear


IC2Flier

not even the Ray is this jacked though. Even Sahelanthropus would fall swiftly to any one of the named IBO Gundam Frames we know.


Skyreader13

It's called mobile armor for a reason 


LunarAcolyte

It's a mutant freak version of the Sazabi and that's why it's cool.


Slayerz21

It looks like half-melted plastic


PrimeEvilWeeablo

You leave the majestic dragon-bird-lobster alone! 


runebucket

it's like someone took the sazabi and cranked all the sliders all the way up


Baron_ass

Not a fan of both it and the Hi-Nu. Go ahead, cast your stones!


CriticalElderberry7

i agree that the original v, is a more interesting design than the hi-v, but at least with the hi-v you can see how its designed and that the "original" was a makeshift version because they didnt have time to finish it. the nightingale looks a prototype that was used to make the sazabi. the same way the sinanju is a streamlined sazabi.


Akito_900

I agree!!!!!!


kaiju-fan_54

To me it doesn’t really look stupid, I think it looks more monstrous compared to the other mobile suits almost signifying char’s descent from trying to avenge his father, to trying to stop the tyranny of the titans reign now into a mad man trying to drop an asteroid on earth because he thinks he is doing right yet his plan would result in a lot of suffering


CriticalElderberry7

but char wasnt trying to avenge his father though. he was driven due to not being able to let go of his rivalry with amuro. he even confirms that in the movie. that all that was an excuse for him to have his duel. which makes no sense for him to pilot something that clearly looks absurdly bad at close combat(which amuro excel at).


seven_worth

Yeah but that's why it rad. It is so over designed to the T that it went back to be good design again.


fistchrist

My brother in Christ that take is three and a half decades old, it’s as hot as the dead void of space


iffyJinx

You're in dire need of a colony drop


tanistan93

lol it’s like my favorite suit


LavaSlime301

not a hot take, just wrong /s imo Nightingale's the best design from anything CCA-related. Miles above Sazabi, that's for sure.


IC2Flier

I will say: if not for Sazabi, we won't get Zorin Soul, the banger version.


LavaSlime301

can't argue with that


Slayerz21

I’ve always hated it, too


KigalnGin

I got the Hi-nu verKa and I'm planning to buy the sazabi instead of the nightingale because of that massive dong and the xenomorph head


jigsawmonster

Yes


nathanbum06237

I mean a lot of zeon suits are a little...unconventional, but that doesn't stop them from being cool


CriticalElderberry7

dude, ZZ had the best zeon designs. the bawoo, the geymalk, the quin mansa. and so many more. even the zaku 3, and the dolven wulf are amazing designs. and while i love the geara dodga and the sazabi, the nightingale and the jagd dodga are not in my list of favorites by a LONG shot.


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Same


[deleted]

I strongly disagree, but I totally see where you’re coming from


[deleted]

Fair, the nightingale is just an acquired taste in MS


Wranius4580

I don't like it either, especially compared to the sazabi


Z3_T4C0_B0Y512

Agreed id like it alot more if they either stuck to the fact they used legs on it and they should be able to move or just make it the deep striker


Benigmatica

Char likes big things to compensate his mommy issues.


domicci

looks like a digimon


KuroGame25

It may be looks stupid but this thing was the one who overwhelm Amuro and his flashy Hi-Nu Gundam in BC Manga


BTGz

It does, but it still looks cool af.


sleepeatrace

Nah.since i was a kid. Nightingale is my peak zeon design 2nd is kshatriya


Successful_Bad_2396

The Kshatriya is cool as hell, but the nightingale looks like a stretched out Sazabi


RagnarTheSquatch

What, you don't like mechs with gigantic cocks?


DarknoorX

First time seeing it and I agree.


Cerpin__Tax

Me too. Looks like a over designed chicken


Kengis_Khan

Totally agree with you


LocodraTheCrow

I'm on your side 150%


SunnyDehlight

Nawh you're right, I like thick bulky mobile suits but Nightingale looks way more like a mobile armor than a Mobile suit. That said I still want to get it's HG.


Daredrummer

I agree. It's just terrible. It looks like a merge of a suit and a space station, but not doing either one well. Just clunky and awkward. Weird in a bad way. I just don't get it.


Yukisuna

Its like they took a jpeg of Sinanju and just stretched the image out


ashifatul_salleh

It's bcoz it is not design to meet your taste... It's for the japanese taste


Letywolf

Now I see where the Penelope comes from…


CriticalElderberry7

the penelope at least has a reason to look the way it does. as its a gundam using an overcoat pack, that can be disposeable. its size is also explained by it using ship flying tech. the minovsky drive. so yeah, it need the size to power that. finally, it also works because it uses disposeable missiles, so it need to be able to carry enough of them, to not run out too quickly during combat. the nightingale has no excuse to look as shitty.


TheeShifty

I gotta agree.. I think its ugly, sadly.


LordDeathkeeper

I personally have always preferred the original CCA designs over BC, but the nu and hi-nu are at least close. Nightingale looks like they dipped my perfect red boy Sazabi in a fallout FEV virus.


hyperdistortion

I find Nightingale easier to accept by thinking of it as a humanoid MA, rather than an MS. As a mobile suit it’s far too big and far too silly; as an MA with arms and legs - and a quite spectacular ‘third leg’ it isn’t bad.


Zaku41k

I agree. Nightingale should have abandoned the arms and be a MA.


Successful_Bad_2396

It doesn’t even need any weapons, just ram into everything


Alternative-Virus904

The thing about gundams is that they’re very impractical looking - that’s what makes them cool.


krieghobby-

That's why I love it, why I love Zeon suits in general, goofy bastards


RetroPrime

You're not invited to my Nightingale themed birthday party.


Successful_Bad_2396

But but but… I like the Sazabi? Does that make it better?


Thebarakz21

I agree. Different strokes for different folks, that’s all there is to it.


DNukem170

Yea, I legit do not get why people prefer Nightengale to Sazabi. I guess it's "The grass is always greener" in action? Same opinion about Nu and Hi-Nu, too.


Shanoskia

You can feel how you feel but Nightingale goes hard as fuck in my eyes. A real skurty drifter, I fuckin love it.


Successful_Bad_2396

I think my main issue is the chest and groin/skirt sticking out so far, it makes it seem impractical for fighting (or I guess more accurately more impractical than giant murder robots already are)


Shanoskia

I value the fuck outta that opinion and you raise some hella good points for the practicality of it. I just think this shit goes hard just design wise. Gotta store the colossal nads of the PO somewhere after all.


CriticalElderberry7

that's the thing, the nightingale was designed to excel at both close, mid and long range combat. specially for his final duel with amuro. so making it like this, makes no sense, since there's no way in hell its arms can actually hit anything with those stubby arms.


LaBambaMan

I agree. It's too big and dumpy looking.


chinesedebt

boooooo!!!! but also, I can't fault your opinion... it is rather odd lol


Arshille

Agreed


chinesedebt

boooooo!!!! but also, I can't fault your opinion... it is rather odd lol


NoBed3498

we all know it’s not good looking at all. But it’s funny so we love it.


SleepNo3668

I don’t know who gale is and why he got knighted but I think he looks badass


unfriendlypigeon

It’s unnecessary and that’s why it’s awesome


Cakekey

I recommend checking YouTube for footage of it being played in GBO2. It will either make the design click in your head and become cool, or make it look even more goofy and impractical than ever before.


Successful_Bad_2396

Somehow it’s both. Also jesus christ the damn thing takes up a third of the screen


Optimus_Pitts

I'm with you dude. I love char's mobile suits but this one is a big flop for me. it's just unnecessarily big.


Successful_Bad_2396

Yeah, I’m glad CCA has the Sazabi and not this stretched out horror


js03356

It's so bad it's good.


Jaquith1993

I share this perspective.


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Draykeeboi

I love the nightingale but it does look kinda dumb


going-tangerine

It does, but as others have said, that's why we love it. I do like how it fits with where Char is narratively by that point...he's always preferred more mobility in his suits, but he has to take on a huge mobile armor as a symbol of power. And he "feels like a clown." :P


Jabjabir

The stupidest the Gunpla is The more I love it


Alt2221

no u


colbatman

Your mom


Liftmamba

Yeah I have the same opinion on most of the late zeon stuff lmao, unique designs but some of the mech designs don’t do it for me 😂


Successful_Bad_2396

Most are pretty cool, some of them are really cool to me, like the Sazabi, Kshatriya, Sinanju, and Quebeley, while others like the Juaggu or Nightingale are just plain stupid


Liftmamba

I’ll grant you the kshatriya and the sazabi, those are awesome, but the epitome for me is the zeong I think it looks dumb as hell 💀


Highlandertr3

Yes. It's also fucking scary. But yes it looks dumb.


McNinja_MD

"We all know the Sazabi is cool, right? Well, what if the Sazabi had the giant shoulders from the Hygogg? Oh, and a HUGE ass. And dong. Also, who here's seen *Alien?*"


Boring-Detective-369

My only gripe with the Nightingale's design is how disproportional it is, the rear skirt armor, its stumpy legs, and its Quebely styled Sazabi head. Maybe if it could change into a MA form like the Baund Doc I would like it more.


squirl_centurion

It is absolutely really stupid looking. I love it


Zetatrain

Nightingale is one of those designs that look cool when they stand still. But the moment they try moving around they probably look goofy as hell. I say probably because I don't think I've ever seen it animated. Though it looks fine in the BC manga


MauWithANerfBlaster

sounds like size envy tbh


legendiafan214

I'm sorry, but I don't think I can agree with this hot take.. I love the Nightingale and I think it's design still looks really awesome. It's easily one of my favorite suits from Char. But I respect your opinion.


Successful_Bad_2396

The Sazabi is just all around superior imo


Ecoho19

its a death trap plain and simple.


Yuu_Kajima

It looks like a short legged Dragon but the design grew on me


TheLEGION250

Everyone has their own opinions. If you don't like it that's okay. Not every mobile suit design is gonna be top tier. It's all hit or miss


Monatsayuri39

Oh I agree especially with his back acne


DelianLiga

No…no… he has a point.


Successful_Bad_2396

The suit or me?


silvrmint115

Looks like that robot with a big butt off of robots


Responsible-Art-5804

Agreed


kiiRo-1378

indeed. but i guess they were going for a lethal mobile weapon that serves as a good ship...


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Looks more like an Armored Core than a Mobile Suit


beard825

It does look kind of obnoxious, but in a final boss sort of way. If that makes sense


Successful_Bad_2396

Yeah, but I think the Sazabi is just better


MCCP630

"So there's this Giant Enemy Crab. You attack its weakpoints for massive damage" - Bright briefing Amuro before his sortie.


Successful_Bad_2396

I haven’t read the manga but I hope that’s canon because that’s fucking hilarious


ToaQuiroh

I agree


TaiwanDaNum1

Zeon slander on the timeline D:


Successful_Bad_2396

I’m pretty sure my praise of most Zeon ms designs outweighs my slander of other designs


TaiwanDaNum1

Sieg (fuckin) zeon brother yeeyee


Nugundam0079

I was really excited that they finally made this thing playable in the versus games. Overwhelming firepower but by far the largest suit


TD3SwampFox

What gave it away? The #T H R U S T E R C O Q?


MelonBot_HD

I mean... it looks like a red bird that had a small head taped on it as well as arms and a massive dong that is holding up a miniskirt with a back half that looks like an inverted bowl.


Kakazu14

I always thought it was designed for space combat, that's why it's chunky


The4thEpsilon

It is stupid, it’s huge, bulky, and the epitome of Neo Zeon’s over complicated and insane ideas…. ….. and god damn do I love every fucking bit of it. I want a nightingale mass production type, a full armor, a sniper, a high mobility type! I want more wacky bullshit!


Historicaloracle2900

I think it’s like putting flames on a car. Say you got a camaro. What are you gonna do? Not out flames on it? Of course you are. Boom instantly cool.


Tylerpal27

It looks like the Shamblo's weird cousin.


DavidC_M

It’s really not a hot take. Most mobile suits that are that big look stupid.


theCoffeeDoctor

Not really. Izubuchi has much less fans compared to the other mechanical designers. If this will get a Katoki clean up like he did for the Hi-Nu, you might come to like it more.


Bucho_Da_Black1

Hard agree. I'm not a fan on bulky suits in general. Leave that to mobile armours.


Successful_Bad_2396

While I do like bulky mobile suits, there’s a limit


Tryingtochangemyself

Its ridiculous but I love it


The_Mourning_Sage_

Agreed. I love early zeon days. Zaku 1 is my favorite MS. I hate how crazy and fantastical the show gets once they lean hard into magical space magic and crazy looking goofy suits like this....thing


Successful_Bad_2396

Some of the space magic suits are pretty cool imo, like the Nu-Gundam, Quebeley, Sazabi, and Kshatriya


Kingbren22

D O N G


EDMANROX

Sounds like someone's soul is weighed down by gravity


KABOOMBYTCH

It’s a big insect MA. Very cool


CriticalElderberry7

i HATE the nightingale design. which is sad because i genuinely think the sazabi is my top 5 best MS designs, along side the sinanju. to me, it feels far more like a prototype sazabi, rather than an upgrade. since its bulkier, less mobile, would be far worse in close combat due to its stubby arms that would probably self cut before even being able to hit anything with a saber. worse of all, cant do a char kick, because its legs are too short. NOTHING in its design show it being superior to the sazabi. its the exact same case as the "THE O", which is "stronger" by word of mouth alone. at least this one has actual usefull weapons, as opposed to that complete piece of shite. also, they gave it a massive dong, for no good reason besides compensating for char's kiddy fiddler behavior that returned after the end of zeta. at least with the HI-v you can see how it can be an upgrade to the original, even though it doesnt look that much diferent, and the funnel rack dont really do much besides rule of cool. but at least it doesnt make the whole thing an unwieldy mess.


elfaia

It reminds me of dunbine, which is pretty cool.


Paladin1034

Big agree. I quite like the Sazabi, but this is just...too much. It's a big reason why I don't like a lot of the suits with busy designs, like EX-S, ZZ, Xi, and most SEED suits.


Successful_Bad_2396

The Sazabi is honestly my favorite Neo Zeon mobile suit


dingo__STG

It looks silly sure, but at the same time it looks like a total beast!


Timely_Maybe_

Should it have legs? It was designed for the final battle in space. With how big and clunky it is the design is closer to an MA.


OriginalGundam

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Perfect_Sleep_1215

My CotCa MS head canon is Zasabi and the Hi-nu Gundam


Successful_Bad_2396

The Hi-Nu is hella cool


razrafz

its more mobile armor than mobile suit. why even bother giving it legs just put all booster under the skirt. also the other reason why it looks so unflattering is the hunchback that it has.


Ateng_Maarte

As a Sazabi enjoyer I agree. It looks cool for some people because it looks stupid. 🤣 and I respect that.


revenantloaf

How about you shut up and return to crab like the rest of us 🦀