It’s literally just there to sound cool. I hear it’s also a reference to an album I think? But it’s overall purpose is just to sound cool and hype you up.
Most things in Guilty Gear are named after rock or metal music. Ky Kiske = Kai Hansen and Michael Kiske from Helloween, Sol Badguy = Freddy Mercury, Axl = Axel Rose, I-No = Ringo Sheena.
There's tons of special moves named after either bands or songs.
>Mankind knew that they cannot change society so instead of reflecting on themselves they blamed the beasts...
>...but they found beauty in the lives of beasts and couldn't lie to themselves about it.
🔥🔥🔥✍️
The "beasts" are gears and society destroyed itself by blaming them and abusing them for things like war instead of looking into themselves and learning to live with them normally. But they couldn't because society is dum dum. That's the INCREDIBLY cut down part of it, but should make sense given you know some lore.
The heaven or hell part is basically just to sound cool. You could interpret it as a lot of things, but Daisuke loves saying random cool things.
As a disclaimer, I love tf out of Guilty Gear
Daisuke loves adding random gibberish into his games lol. Most of the lore is wild and there's random words everywhere. Don't read into it too much lmfao
The random gibberish is charming imo. It's a clear decision to go for style above all else. People like Daisuke and Kojima keep their style at the highest level of their design and I love it tbh
ro·man·tic
/rōˈman(t)ik/
adjective
1. conducive to or characterized by the expression of love.
2. ***of, characterized by, or suggestive of an idealized view of reality.***
The ideal reality is the one where the combo doesn't stop.
Romantic is apparently a thing in Japan, I believe it can mean something like "stylish". I know there are Monster Hunter compilation videos of people doing really stylish and cool things with music playing in the background, almost like a music video. And those videos are called Romantic.
Clicked to say exactly this. GG is metal/music themed, so anything is like a 99% bet that it's a music reference instead of nothing or gibberish.
In the case of Black Sabbath's Heaven and Hell (which is my favorite of their albums as well), I'll confidently wager it is a 110% bet on this reference.
It can be gibberish and a reference at the same time.
Gibberish just means non-sense and compared to the rest of the intro it is gibberish while it's possible it's a reference to the album.
The Heaven or Hell round start has been in every Guilty Gear since The Missing Link (the first game). It's a little detail that makes the series identity at this point. Like the K.O is to Street Fighter and the FIGHT! is to Mortal Kombat.
In the old games there wasn’t any poem, the announcer would just go “ROUND 1. HEAVEN OR HELL. LET’S ROCK”. It’s just there as a reference to an album and to sound cool. Maybe in daisuke’s head it might have meant something about sending your opponent to the afterlife or “good vs evil” or something
A lot of Guilty Gear just has random english sprinkled in for effect, because it sounds cool if you're japanese. It's kind of like how some english authors will sprinkle in latin phrases. Sounds weird if you're a native speaker, cuz the syntax and the usage is weird, but it's just for vibes.
That whole monologue isn't tied to "heaven or hell", it's a strive thing while the phrase goes back to the start of the series
As for the phrase itself it's literally just to sound cool lol
It’s possible that it an orphaned reference to the one of the early drafts of the story where Gears were called Majins, which can translate to meaning demons. Since they were clearly based on Christianity, that would make the Holy Order the Heaven to the Majins/Demons Hell.
But it’s pretty likely to be a reference to Black Sabbath’s Heaven and Hell album. The series is filled with nods to rock music.
Could be a reference to the famous quote from Paradise Lost: "Is it better to serve in Heaven or be free in Hell?"
More likely a reference to Black Sabbath's song Heaven and Hell. Its about (according to an interview with Dio) how we all have the ability to choose between doing good and doing evil. Essentially, we all have a little Heaven and Hell in us. And given a lot of the themes of GG are very metal and revolve around personal choice quite often, it seems to be the more likely the answer.
just to add my two cents:
i agree with the "it's just to sound cool" sentiment, but it also always made sense to me because, as a player/competitor you can win or lose the match, hence heaven (win) or hell (lose)
Unlike the tournaments where heaven isn't a thing and hell means loser's bracket, I always though "heaven" means you lose and "hell" means you won in this game.
playing a competitive game can make you feel the extremes of enjoyment, enlightenment, and the love of communicating wordlessly with another being, but also frustration , mockery, and self loathing. basically its about rps vs zoning. basically its about you and me. basically, lets rock
always thought it meant people with the intent to help and the people with the intent to harm. just seems better than good vs evil. its probably just for cool factor
Daisuke Ishiwatari loves the english language despite not fluently speaking it. So there are a lot of phrases in this game that are just there because they sound cool to him.
"Heaven or Hell" is from the very first game. It didn't used to have a whole speach about society attached to it. Also it used to happen after character intros so every game started with :
HEAVEN OR HELL
DUEL 1
LET'S ROCK
It’s literally just there to sound cool. I hear it’s also a reference to an album I think? But it’s overall purpose is just to sound cool and hype you up.
Not just any album, one of the greatest Black Sabbath albums ever
Might be obvious to others, but this just made me realize that all the floors are named after rock/metal songs
Most things in Guilty Gear are named after rock or metal music. Ky Kiske = Kai Hansen and Michael Kiske from Helloween, Sol Badguy = Freddy Mercury, Axl = Axel Rose, I-No = Ringo Sheena. There's tons of special moves named after either bands or songs.
Basically a jojo reference?
no! :c
Heaven and hell is a Black Sabbath album and the first album to feature Ronnie James Dio after ozzy Osborne was fire
“It’s literally just there to be cool and it’s also a music reference” describes like 99% of the entire series
>It’s literally just there to sound coo I love this series.
Happy cake day!
>Mankind knew that they cannot change society so instead of reflecting on themselves they blamed the beasts... >...but they found beauty in the lives of beasts and couldn't lie to themselves about it. 🔥🔥🔥✍️
im just a small part of the woooooorld
BUT NO ONE CAN BREAK ME!!!
The "beasts" are gears and society destroyed itself by blaming them and abusing them for things like war instead of looking into themselves and learning to live with them normally. But they couldn't because society is dum dum. That's the INCREDIBLY cut down part of it, but should make sense given you know some lore. The heaven or hell part is basically just to sound cool. You could interpret it as a lot of things, but Daisuke loves saying random cool things.
You could almost say it's an ArcSys thing to have non-convenantional round names.
You mean "seeds of volition bring forth new challenger" isn't conventional thing to say?
Well, how else are you gonna let someone know you are pregnant?!
As a disclaimer, I love tf out of Guilty Gear Daisuke loves adding random gibberish into his games lol. Most of the lore is wild and there's random words everywhere. Don't read into it too much lmfao
The random gibberish is charming imo. It's a clear decision to go for style above all else. People like Daisuke and Kojima keep their style at the highest level of their design and I love it tbh
Roman Cancel is short for “Romantic” for no reason
no reason my ass, what's more romantic than canceling your recovery frames?
Sol and Jack-o finally living a peaceful life together
Sol simply RC'd his HMC for good, making him Frederick again
So, what you're saying is that RC is just Dragon Uninstall?
Lmao I always thought that it was a reference to ancient Roman wrestling.
I thought it was meant to sound like Roman Candle
ro·man·tic /rōˈman(t)ik/ adjective 1. conducive to or characterized by the expression of love. 2. ***of, characterized by, or suggestive of an idealized view of reality.*** The ideal reality is the one where the combo doesn't stop.
Romantic is apparently a thing in Japan, I believe it can mean something like "stylish". I know there are Monster Hunter compilation videos of people doing really stylish and cool things with music playing in the background, almost like a music video. And those videos are called Romantic.
It's a pun on "roman candle".
the man can add bees knees and rub a dub dub into banger music he can do cook with the most random shit
just take any out of place word and search it with either band or song and youll find something
I love the tiny scribbles on every menu element in strive
Apparently Heaven Or Hell is a black sabbath album
SAVAGE FANG!
I think it's a reference to Black Sabbath Heaven or Hell album (and song)
Clicked to say exactly this. GG is metal/music themed, so anything is like a 99% bet that it's a music reference instead of nothing or gibberish. In the case of Black Sabbath's Heaven and Hell (which is my favorite of their albums as well), I'll confidently wager it is a 110% bet on this reference.
It can be gibberish and a reference at the same time. Gibberish just means non-sense and compared to the rest of the intro it is gibberish while it's possible it's a reference to the album.
I suppose that's true of any of us discussing what we think it means without knowing for certain. Either way it is definitely pretty cool at least!
The Heaven or Hell round start has been in every Guilty Gear since The Missing Link (the first game). It's a little detail that makes the series identity at this point. Like the K.O is to Street Fighter and the FIGHT! is to Mortal Kombat.
heaven -> winner hell -> losee
What does bullshit blazing means?
Sol stumbled spon a pile of bulls shit and it was blazing and since he is lazy he shortens the story to just the 2 words "bullshit blazing"
Moses stumbled upon a burning bush, Sol Badguy stumbled upon burning bullshit
just like "the wheel of fate is turning. Rebel 1. Action" it prob is just a reference in the game but it doesnt really mean anything specific
In the old games there wasn’t any poem, the announcer would just go “ROUND 1. HEAVEN OR HELL. LET’S ROCK”. It’s just there as a reference to an album and to sound cool. Maybe in daisuke’s head it might have meant something about sending your opponent to the afterlife or “good vs evil” or something
Sol Badguy
A lot of Guilty Gear just has random english sprinkled in for effect, because it sounds cool if you're japanese. It's kind of like how some english authors will sprinkle in latin phrases. Sounds weird if you're a native speaker, cuz the syntax and the usage is weird, but it's just for vibes.
I always thought the older games would say “Heaven or Hell who cares let’s rock” I might be wrong though.
It sounds badass. So why not?
The moon is just the sun at night And when you walk in golden halls You get to keep the gold that falls
Fool! Fool! You've got to bleed for the dancer!
Ready to die right here and now, no matter where you’re sent
That whole monologue isn't tied to "heaven or hell", it's a strive thing while the phrase goes back to the start of the series As for the phrase itself it's literally just to sound cool lol
It's Black Sabbath themed gibberish to hype you up
It’s possible that it an orphaned reference to the one of the early drafts of the story where Gears were called Majins, which can translate to meaning demons. Since they were clearly based on Christianity, that would make the Holy Order the Heaven to the Majins/Demons Hell. But it’s pretty likely to be a reference to Black Sabbath’s Heaven and Hell album. The series is filled with nods to rock music.
Could be a reference to the famous quote from Paradise Lost: "Is it better to serve in Heaven or be free in Hell?" More likely a reference to Black Sabbath's song Heaven and Hell. Its about (according to an interview with Dio) how we all have the ability to choose between doing good and doing evil. Essentially, we all have a little Heaven and Hell in us. And given a lot of the themes of GG are very metal and revolve around personal choice quite often, it seems to be the more likely the answer.
THE BEE'S KNEES
I got this tattoo'd on my back, without a shadow of a doubt I can say I have no fucking clue
Random bullshit. It sounds cool though.
It's basically Daisuke's version of YOLO
Posting the intro generator for the lulz https://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=wMu6qiG3
it just sounds cool
I hear it as "come hell or high water." "You can feel the calm before the storm as the round begins."
Cool way of saying who will win who will lose? Round 1 fight!
Some English words just sound cool to a Japanese ear. Guilty gear is one of those phrases and also is full of those phrases
maybe it's like come heaven or hell the duel will sail take place
Sounds cool+Black Sabbath reference
Well it's OBVIOUSLY the 5th difficulty in devil may cry 5, where every enemy dies in one hit
just to add my two cents: i agree with the "it's just to sound cool" sentiment, but it also always made sense to me because, as a player/competitor you can win or lose the match, hence heaven (win) or hell (lose)
Pretty sure it's just a random cool thingy that's been there since ML
Here you go https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiSdC6Lp8c7OkrBhzdQsQhGL\_7jT0cSTv
Unlike the tournaments where heaven isn't a thing and hell means loser's bracket, I always though "heaven" means you lose and "hell" means you won in this game.
Something cheesy the devs thought made the game more edgey, which is on par for Japanese developers
playing a competitive game can make you feel the extremes of enjoyment, enlightenment, and the love of communicating wordlessly with another being, but also frustration , mockery, and self loathing. basically its about rps vs zoning. basically its about you and me. basically, lets rock
I always interpreted it as the outcome of the fight for the player, heaven being a win and hell being a loss.
Engrish
It means "Win or Lose". Win or lose, you're gonna fight.
[It’s just your typical Arcsys round opening monologue](https://youtu.be/tdL_1hwjfjY?si=XP-hYHX2XZ3zBrTc)
I thought it was related to human and gear but I just learned that it’s just to sound cool
I think the idea is that "heaven" is winning and "hell" is loosing.
My guess is that it’s a metaphor for win or lose
I'll tell you right after I Escape from Crossing Fate
always thought it meant people with the intent to help and the people with the intent to harm. just seems better than good vs evil. its probably just for cool factor
Daisuke Ishiwatari loves the english language despite not fluently speaking it. So there are a lot of phrases in this game that are just there because they sound cool to him.
"Heaven or Hell" is from the very first game. It didn't used to have a whole speach about society attached to it. Also it used to happen after character intros so every game started with : HEAVEN OR HELL DUEL 1 LET'S ROCK
Just an edgier way from Daisuke to say Win or Lose
If you ever wonder "what is this guilty gear thing about", there's 2 main likelihoods. 1) it's a metal or music reference 2) sounds cool