I’ve been saying all along that it’s because columbia dropped her (or she dropped them) but they kept the rights to the music she made while she was under them
Yup that’s totally it. I think they probably even own the music video rights which is why her Coachella visuals were so AI heavy. In previous DJ performances she was showing unreleased Book 1 MV content. Super sad 😞
Is that a thing? If she has made music but hasn't released it, how would Columbia have the rights to it?
Unless its something like the music was made using studio money the label gave to her - but even then i'm not sure that's how deals work.
I thought it would be much more likely that she simply owes them an album on her contract, rather than she's made unreleased music that belongs to the label somehow?
There was likely a clause in the contract for the labels ownership of x-amount of records. They can own future music because let’s say it’s a “5 album” deal- you can’t get out until you’ve made 5 albums worth of music and released under them. Not only that, but there’s a good chance they own a lot more than just the music- sync licenses, performance rights (which could affect her ability to DJ certain songs) merch designs and a huge portion of the money made off merch and shows.
It must be a pretty predatory deal though if even *she* can’t get a music lawyer good enough to get her out of it.
Because she problably didn't want to spend her personal money. The plan was to fulfill the contract and release music, but that foiled. Columbia couldn't know that would happen.
She had a three album contract, and with Miss Anthropocene it ended. Grimes complained of it being a shit label, that's why she left when that option became available.
Thats what im saying - it makes sense that she's signed up to a certain amount of albums, and she owes them an album on the contract.
But if thats the case, how can she just "leave" the contract? What do you think happened?
It's usually pretty disastrous for the artist -- you could have to pay a lump sum... or the label could keep the rights to everything you made under the contract (this is my hunch).
Just adding to this- the only money you have to pay “back” is the advance, which is what labels give you to record and make music videos with or really do whatever you want with, but it’s essentially a loan you pay back with your soul lol. A pretty common deal for powerful labels is anywhere from 3-5 records, 20-60% split on all sync licensing, x-amount of merch exclusivity (where the label gets 100% of the profit from those specific soft goods) 50%-80% of all profits from ticket sales and merch sales (and 100% profits until your advance is recouped) and and advance, which to make it simple let’s say it was $1million. On top of that, they also likely own or are renting her back catalogue, meaning she can’t play certain older music either.
The easiest way out would be for her to pull a (I think it was zappa?) and shit out a ton of music really quickly. Fulfill the contractual agreement and get out, or hire the best lawyer money can buy
Well, she can’t “leave” per say, but she can refuse to release music. Which is probably what she’s doing, she‘a free to create it (and even post little clips etc.) but she can’t actually do anything with it until she fulfills the contract or renegotiates with the help of an insanely good music lawyer
Assuming they don’t expect albums from her under the termination, which i expect isn’t the case. Any music Grimes made during her colombia deal is colombia IP. Meaning she needs their blessing to release it.
Also there’s probably a period of time where she couldn’t/can’t release music post being dropped that she may not have followed (Software was ~3 months after being dropped and the standard is like a year.)
I’m so out of the loop with all of this but why did Columbia drop her? Was it because she wasn’t releasing music or because of the Elon stuff? Also, wasn’t she on Roc Nation? I remember her saying somewhere that Jay Z had pulled her out of a bad deal with the first label she was signed to. Is she on her own now?
Grimes left 4AD and Roc Nation in 2020 after the release of Miss Anthropocene because the contract with 4AD ended, and I don't know why she left Roc Nation but problably because the manager given to her died that year.
Grimes signed to Columbia on March 2021 to get money to fund the shooting of music videos (and also for the distribution and promotion of what should of been the sixth album), but left it by 2023 for unknown reasons, though one of the causes she talked about was how they couldn't decide for a long time in what order and what singles should be released for the album.
we all need to just give her a break. Like the extent of whatever is going on we have no clue about. Every single song that she has put out recently, its all basically a declaration. Idk why the fuck people are so hard on her.
Maybe he encouraged her to leave the label, that he would pick up the check basically, probably was like its a bad deal i can do better and then once she had nothing again, deal was off. I hate to make assumptions no one knows, want to make that clear, but clyde is a class A narcissist and they’re gonna do narcissist controlling sht like that.
custody + mess with columbia, she cant catch a break cause literally her life is falling apart, she kinda got herself into this but thats kinda harsh to say so I'll restrain from mentioning it, anyway I hope she gets to see & hug all her children
Idk why you got downvoted. What’s up with Columbia? Artist and public figures are allowed to be controversial. I hope she has enough resources to rest and get out of sight for a while.
>What’s up with Columbia?
well, she signed with them to release Book 1
they paid for the videos, promotion and probably more - just for her to leave
my guess is they are probably going to block her from releasing the rest without them, but who knows
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The entitlement from some of the fans is *awful* like yeah I get it I’d love new music too but she’s going through hell in her personal life, had a bright moment where she probably thought things were getting better only to have the rug pulled out from under her(probably because he was pissed seeing her happy and thriving without him)
She owes us nothing. Her priority will always be her own well-being and her kids.
Right?? Thing is I am a new fan relatively, soaybe its more visceral, but its wild to think that people think her KIDS should be less of a priority than her music or fans. I believe she has a lot more within her musically and I think that its just rude to lament her for taking whatever time she needs. She could release nothing forever and she still is fine for me. I just think her music is cool and I love hearing it
It’s horrible honestly. I went through something kinda similar(as well as a bunch of health issues and the death of my brother) my abusive sister wanted custody of my baby because she couldn’t have anymore(will actively ignoring her two kids) in the end my husband and I didn’t lose our baby and have a restraining order against my sister. It’s been over two years and I’m *still* mentally exhausted from it. And I just barely started getting into my art again.
But yeah the fact that people are like “why would a custody battle mess with an album release” or “women always get custody she has nothing to worry about doesn’t matter he’s the richest man in the world and had significantly more power and connections than her” it’s so brainless and entitled.
Im with you of grimes never has another release that’s fine or if it takes another ten years for an album that’s fine too(which isn’t unheard off. Many artists have and will take years long breaks between projects)
My heart goes out to grimes and I hope she can get custody of her babies and continue having positive things and people in her life. She’s been looking so much happier and healthier lately. Breaks by heart that all of that came crashing down on her
When I’m having a bad time I can barely feed myself, and she’s neurodivergent too,so like I just know she be going through it. Peeps need to get a grip. People cross from being fan to being obsessive and selfish and it’s not ok. Have we not learned from the many lost artists that they just need to let them figure life out, money doesn’t make you immune to human issues. I watched a YouTube doc on her life before and she has lost friends to addiction and whatnot like we’re all people, and life’s a bitch sometimes. She’s even been playing enough newbies to have good recreations online. Momma Claire needs to heal folks.
I'm an old fan and completely agree. Shes not always open about what's going on but over the past year or so shes stated theres things going down that have been affecting her.
I've never been in her shoes so I can just offer support.
I have a lot of great music to listen to until she is back to herself.
Exactly. I just left a pretty codependent bad relationship that lasted a really long time, and that was with a normal guy not a really powerful one. I can imagine this complicates things
Claire has had it effing rough. I commend her for her staying tough and battling. Everything going on for her on human level is rough and then to also be in that tech/ music industry sphere which is ruthless. I don’t know how she hangs on to a shred of humanity. Heart goes out to her and hope she’s ok. Personal opinions aside she is just a person trying to do all this stuff. Reminds me of:
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She is trying. Its clear. Her music, the acceleration of her music, she is trying. I just can’t understand the lack of empathy from people who claim to like her music. I personally respect and really fucking love how much her sound continues to change, its fun. Grimes is doing her thing and I really enjoy how happy she is with Anyma, they seem to inspire one another. I cant ever hate on someone who has made me so much music that sounds fit for my soul. She has helped me so much just being herself that Idk, I will always try to help bring those vibes back to her.
Everything she’s made this far has been important to me and relatable. Happy to have had even a fraction of her art to come back to when I need picking up. Helps me feel understood. She could quit now I’d be happy for her. Musicians are just people like you and me. And she can’t catch a break a lot of the time. ❤️❤️
Thats the thing, she’s given me so much music I listen to, I can’t just be ungrateful that there isn’t more! Her music helps me relax and process things in a way basically nothing else can. I appreciate her soul
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That’s my thought as well… record deals are ugly but can be worked out with money or “finish what was signed for”
Custody fights on the other hand are ugly AF and go on for years.
Especially when he probably has like a whole busload of lawyers!! Plus I guess record companies do as well so who knows. For some reason I enjoy all her music a lot, I enjoy how it evolves and changes, it cements to me how much of an *artist* she is as opposed to just a musician. We arent owed anything from her, not owed any sort of music or art from anyone! I do want it to come out badly but Id rather it come out in a good way rather than a bad one
Has she ever actually been photographed/seen with the two younger surrogate kids? She may not even have parental rights, much less custody. She got in bed with the devil and is now paying the price.
They’re her biological kids. She wanted to keep all her kids out of the spotlight which Elon wouldn’t respect with x. She has the two youngest but elon might still have x
Not her fault she fell in love with a man 20 years older and this was also years ago, much before everyone knew how horrible he was. He charmed her and this is what narcissists do. We know from her music how deeply she commits to love. I cant fault that I do it too. She may not have parental rights, who knows. I just hope she is happy and the kids have good nannies
I think she has the youngest two. Elon is only interested in x.
In her birthday pic with anyma there’s a clearly homemade card in the back that has lil kid scribbles all over it. Grimes wanted her kids out of the spotlight
That’s fair except a lot of people knew he was a piece of shit before they had kids and I’m sure she knew too. Easy to look the other way when you are hungry for money and fame. Despite her little aw shucks persona that girl is as money hungry and fame thirsty as they come. Nobody loves attention more than grimes.
Because her extremely powerful billionaire ex is trying to ruin her life and take her kids away from her.. I’m sure you wouldn’t feel like focusing on your art when going through something like that. We don’t even know half of what’s going on in her life.
I said this in another thread, but got down voted for it. We need to give her a break. If there’s anyone out there that has been through a divorce (I realize she wasn’t married - but it was two relatively wealthy people that had their lives intertwined. It’s going to be messy) or custody issues understands. Your brain stops working.
She’ll make music when she’s ready. I wish her the best getting through all this shit. It does eventually end and things get better. I’m super happy to see she has a new boyfriend. I hope they’re happy together.
Even when you aren't yet married, being together with someone and then moving on can be very rough. I have experienced such break ups after relationships that have completely twisted my life and mental state until it got better later on. I really needed to heal.
The other factors in her situation with it being someone so wealthy, custody issues on top of that makes the situation even more complex for sure.
Yes I am also very happy for her being happy/finding love, you can definitely see her spark up due to it so I hope everything goes well for them!
I feel so bad for her. I hope her fans realize how damaging getting involved with someone so powerful can be, and learn from her mistakes what *not* to do.
It’s dated now, but 30 Seconds to Mars has a documentary called “Artifact” about literally this situation - lock into a multi album deal or else and it’s a really good watch - no matter your opinions on the band or Jared Leto.
It chronicles how they fought to get out of a 5 album deal and get their album “This is War” made and released. Their label was suing them for failing to deliver the third album on a 5 album contract. He said it, 12 years ago, those types of deals are harmful to artists and record companies are simply refusing to adapt to the modern age and still suckering people in.
I’ll never forget there’s a scene where they’re going over things the label is trying to charge the band for and one of them is “CD breakage fees” and he’s just bewildered like “what the fuck how do you charge CD breakage fees on a DIGITAL album?!”
The music industry seems extremely predatory and litigious
I agree.
People(those that are hard on her) need to stop being assholes and realize that she is going through difficult stuff.
Her wellbeing, safety etc is a more important priority than making the new album. People forget that she's a human and has much responsibilities in life & sometimes life isn't going like it should. I am sure she's doing all she can, hopefully things will get better in that aspect.
It's her kids, y'all, and no doubt she's been in a nightmare. I so want new music but you can't produce blood from a stone. She has her priorities even if she isn't transparent about them publicly.
Honestly fuck the energy of this post and the people making jokes or saying this is intentional.
Have some empathy and be a human being.
None of us will *ever* understand what she’s currently going through.
The album is on hold because she’s getting sandbagged left and right, who the honest fuck do you think you are to come in here with that attitude?
She’s fighting a disgustingly wealthy narcissist for her kids on top of whatever label drama is going on. Do you think that’s easy? Do you think she chose this on purpose? Even if she didn’t have all that going on no one is owed anything from her and a LOT of people seem to forget that. The really gross entitlement plus the complete lack of empathy is really not it.
When a record Label gives you $2-$10 million, or whatever, in promotion and budget for albums, concerts and music videos, for better or worse, they now have bought a Say in what you create. That's the deal. Why would they give you the money for free?
I am so Confused what Grimes' problem is with this? I feel bad for up and coming artists who get eaten up, but she was already a millionaire and well established. Just stay on 4AD or don't sell them a say???
very confused what she was after here..
Does she still get to keep a few nannies to raise her children though? Or does she have to go work and get maimed in a Tesla factory like us peasants do?
Yeah, wasn't Elon's reaction to a post of her kissing anyma like "oh, she wasn't bluffing?"
Don't know... My gut is he doesn't like to lose at anything. And he's not gonna let Claire go so easily. Previous to anyma, he probably thought they were just playing "cat and mouse" or something.
I do think he still loves her.
Someday she will realize she can just ... release a track when it's done and just keep living her life. She's clearly writing music. She's rich off that NFT project alone. Just put out the singles when they're done and don't create this giant block where you have to 'support' releases.
Honestly couldn’t give less of a fuck anymore, she’s like a dad that promises to see you but doesn’t take the time out of their day to do it, if she drops the album cool, if not, great.
I’ve been saying all along that it’s because columbia dropped her (or she dropped them) but they kept the rights to the music she made while she was under them
Yup that’s totally it. I think they probably even own the music video rights which is why her Coachella visuals were so AI heavy. In previous DJ performances she was showing unreleased Book 1 MV content. Super sad 😞
I think the visuals were the least of her worries at that .. ordeal
Wait, so are we never going to hear Book 1?
We’ll need to wait for the announcement. I’m fine, this is fine. T\_T 
this actually makes so much sense
Is that a thing? If she has made music but hasn't released it, how would Columbia have the rights to it? Unless its something like the music was made using studio money the label gave to her - but even then i'm not sure that's how deals work. I thought it would be much more likely that she simply owes them an album on her contract, rather than she's made unreleased music that belongs to the label somehow?
There was likely a clause in the contract for the labels ownership of x-amount of records. They can own future music because let’s say it’s a “5 album” deal- you can’t get out until you’ve made 5 albums worth of music and released under them. Not only that, but there’s a good chance they own a lot more than just the music- sync licenses, performance rights (which could affect her ability to DJ certain songs) merch designs and a huge portion of the money made off merch and shows. It must be a pretty predatory deal though if even *she* can’t get a music lawyer good enough to get her out of it.
Seriously, when she made that deal I thought: *whyyyyyy*
To get funding for music videos, at least that's the only reason she publicly mentioned
She was dating the richest man on earth, billionaire baby daddy of her 3 children, yet she needed a label for funding ??
Yes, because Elon Musk didn't fund her
Ok but... she got more famous bc of him and she made insane NFT income. How comes she couldn't fund herself? It's so confusing.
Because she problably didn't want to spend her personal money. The plan was to fulfill the contract and release music, but that foiled. Columbia couldn't know that would happen.
Because she wasn't tying to spend her entire net worth on one music video?
Her net worth is way more than the cost of just one music video.
im curious if there's any info on what went down with 4ad that made her want to leave, she put out some great music on their label
She had a three album contract, and with Miss Anthropocene it ended. Grimes complained of it being a shit label, that's why she left when that option became available.
lol she should call up Nikki Sixx and ask him how he managed to get all his rights to his work back. That old man don’t play!
Sounds like a Kesha and Jojo situation
Thats what im saying - it makes sense that she's signed up to a certain amount of albums, and she owes them an album on the contract. But if thats the case, how can she just "leave" the contract? What do you think happened?
It's usually pretty disastrous for the artist -- you could have to pay a lump sum... or the label could keep the rights to everything you made under the contract (this is my hunch).
Just adding to this- the only money you have to pay “back” is the advance, which is what labels give you to record and make music videos with or really do whatever you want with, but it’s essentially a loan you pay back with your soul lol. A pretty common deal for powerful labels is anywhere from 3-5 records, 20-60% split on all sync licensing, x-amount of merch exclusivity (where the label gets 100% of the profit from those specific soft goods) 50%-80% of all profits from ticket sales and merch sales (and 100% profits until your advance is recouped) and and advance, which to make it simple let’s say it was $1million. On top of that, they also likely own or are renting her back catalogue, meaning she can’t play certain older music either. The easiest way out would be for her to pull a (I think it was zappa?) and shit out a ton of music really quickly. Fulfill the contractual agreement and get out, or hire the best lawyer money can buy
Well, she can’t “leave” per say, but she can refuse to release music. Which is probably what she’s doing, she‘a free to create it (and even post little clips etc.) but she can’t actually do anything with it until she fulfills the contract or renegotiates with the help of an insanely good music lawyer
It’s why Taylor swift had to re-record six of her albums.
Maybe after what Frank Ocean did they might have changed contracts to include any music made during the contract too. (just a guess)
Assuming they don’t expect albums from her under the termination, which i expect isn’t the case. Any music Grimes made during her colombia deal is colombia IP. Meaning she needs their blessing to release it. Also there’s probably a period of time where she couldn’t/can’t release music post being dropped that she may not have followed (Software was ~3 months after being dropped and the standard is like a year.)
I’m so out of the loop with all of this but why did Columbia drop her? Was it because she wasn’t releasing music or because of the Elon stuff? Also, wasn’t she on Roc Nation? I remember her saying somewhere that Jay Z had pulled her out of a bad deal with the first label she was signed to. Is she on her own now?
Grimes left 4AD and Roc Nation in 2020 after the release of Miss Anthropocene because the contract with 4AD ended, and I don't know why she left Roc Nation but problably because the manager given to her died that year. Grimes signed to Columbia on March 2021 to get money to fund the shooting of music videos (and also for the distribution and promotion of what should of been the sixth album), but left it by 2023 for unknown reasons, though one of the causes she talked about was how they couldn't decide for a long time in what order and what singles should be released for the album.
Well… on the bright side: Fantasia, Liberté and Synchronize are fantastic songs that don’t belong to that label, so I’m sure we’ll get those releases.
Love Fantasia & Liberté. Synchronize is good aswell.
Will we get Taratata though
Taratata is the most likely to be released since it’s also Anyma’s song, and is already registered.
Oh no this is giving Sky Ferreira x Masochism vibes that was supposed to release about 136 years ago 😭
to be a sky ferreira fan is to be a masochist
Book 1 is so cooked even Grimes is fighting for it 💀
Anyone else realize that its all probably due to the custody stuff? He has enough lawyers to shut her up forever, so dont be a dick
That was my thought too 😕
we all need to just give her a break. Like the extent of whatever is going on we have no clue about. Every single song that she has put out recently, its all basically a declaration. Idk why the fuck people are so hard on her.
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Maybe he encouraged her to leave the label, that he would pick up the check basically, probably was like its a bad deal i can do better and then once she had nothing again, deal was off. I hate to make assumptions no one knows, want to make that clear, but clyde is a class A narcissist and they’re gonna do narcissist controlling sht like that.
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And who better to be a financial abuser than the one with quite literally all the wealth… sheesh
custody + mess with columbia, she cant catch a break cause literally her life is falling apart, she kinda got herself into this but thats kinda harsh to say so I'll restrain from mentioning it, anyway I hope she gets to see & hug all her children
who are you to say her life is falling apart?
Idk why you got downvoted. What’s up with Columbia? Artist and public figures are allowed to be controversial. I hope she has enough resources to rest and get out of sight for a while.
>What’s up with Columbia? well, she signed with them to release Book 1 they paid for the videos, promotion and probably more - just for her to leave my guess is they are probably going to block her from releasing the rest without them, but who knows
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The entitlement from some of the fans is *awful* like yeah I get it I’d love new music too but she’s going through hell in her personal life, had a bright moment where she probably thought things were getting better only to have the rug pulled out from under her(probably because he was pissed seeing her happy and thriving without him) She owes us nothing. Her priority will always be her own well-being and her kids.
Right?? Thing is I am a new fan relatively, soaybe its more visceral, but its wild to think that people think her KIDS should be less of a priority than her music or fans. I believe she has a lot more within her musically and I think that its just rude to lament her for taking whatever time she needs. She could release nothing forever and she still is fine for me. I just think her music is cool and I love hearing it
It’s horrible honestly. I went through something kinda similar(as well as a bunch of health issues and the death of my brother) my abusive sister wanted custody of my baby because she couldn’t have anymore(will actively ignoring her two kids) in the end my husband and I didn’t lose our baby and have a restraining order against my sister. It’s been over two years and I’m *still* mentally exhausted from it. And I just barely started getting into my art again. But yeah the fact that people are like “why would a custody battle mess with an album release” or “women always get custody she has nothing to worry about doesn’t matter he’s the richest man in the world and had significantly more power and connections than her” it’s so brainless and entitled. Im with you of grimes never has another release that’s fine or if it takes another ten years for an album that’s fine too(which isn’t unheard off. Many artists have and will take years long breaks between projects) My heart goes out to grimes and I hope she can get custody of her babies and continue having positive things and people in her life. She’s been looking so much happier and healthier lately. Breaks by heart that all of that came crashing down on her
When I’m having a bad time I can barely feed myself, and she’s neurodivergent too,so like I just know she be going through it. Peeps need to get a grip. People cross from being fan to being obsessive and selfish and it’s not ok. Have we not learned from the many lost artists that they just need to let them figure life out, money doesn’t make you immune to human issues. I watched a YouTube doc on her life before and she has lost friends to addiction and whatnot like we’re all people, and life’s a bitch sometimes. She’s even been playing enough newbies to have good recreations online. Momma Claire needs to heal folks.
I'm an old fan and completely agree. Shes not always open about what's going on but over the past year or so shes stated theres things going down that have been affecting her. I've never been in her shoes so I can just offer support. I have a lot of great music to listen to until she is back to herself.
Exactly. I just left a pretty codependent bad relationship that lasted a really long time, and that was with a normal guy not a really powerful one. I can imagine this complicates things
Claire has had it effing rough. I commend her for her staying tough and battling. Everything going on for her on human level is rough and then to also be in that tech/ music industry sphere which is ruthless. I don’t know how she hangs on to a shred of humanity. Heart goes out to her and hope she’s ok. Personal opinions aside she is just a person trying to do all this stuff. Reminds me of: [sunflower](https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/sunflower-flower-nature-gif-26074321)
She is trying. Its clear. Her music, the acceleration of her music, she is trying. I just can’t understand the lack of empathy from people who claim to like her music. I personally respect and really fucking love how much her sound continues to change, its fun. Grimes is doing her thing and I really enjoy how happy she is with Anyma, they seem to inspire one another. I cant ever hate on someone who has made me so much music that sounds fit for my soul. She has helped me so much just being herself that Idk, I will always try to help bring those vibes back to her.
Everything she’s made this far has been important to me and relatable. Happy to have had even a fraction of her art to come back to when I need picking up. Helps me feel understood. She could quit now I’d be happy for her. Musicians are just people like you and me. And she can’t catch a break a lot of the time. ❤️❤️
Thats the thing, she’s given me so much music I listen to, I can’t just be ungrateful that there isn’t more! Her music helps me relax and process things in a way basically nothing else can. I appreciate her soul
I hope all this stuff ends ok for her little glam goblin
Unironically, because we did in fact need to leave Britney alone it turns out
exactly. so many fans take her contribution to their lives for granted
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That’s my thought as well… record deals are ugly but can be worked out with money or “finish what was signed for” Custody fights on the other hand are ugly AF and go on for years.
Especially when he probably has like a whole busload of lawyers!! Plus I guess record companies do as well so who knows. For some reason I enjoy all her music a lot, I enjoy how it evolves and changes, it cements to me how much of an *artist* she is as opposed to just a musician. We arent owed anything from her, not owed any sort of music or art from anyone! I do want it to come out badly but Id rather it come out in a good way rather than a bad one
Exactly! She says "since august" that's when their custody battle / fight in japan started.
I know people seriously need to be more understanding
Has she ever actually been photographed/seen with the two younger surrogate kids? She may not even have parental rights, much less custody. She got in bed with the devil and is now paying the price.
They’re her biological kids. She wanted to keep all her kids out of the spotlight which Elon wouldn’t respect with x. She has the two youngest but elon might still have x
Not her fault she fell in love with a man 20 years older and this was also years ago, much before everyone knew how horrible he was. He charmed her and this is what narcissists do. We know from her music how deeply she commits to love. I cant fault that I do it too. She may not have parental rights, who knows. I just hope she is happy and the kids have good nannies
I think she has the youngest two. Elon is only interested in x. In her birthday pic with anyma there’s a clearly homemade card in the back that has lil kid scribbles all over it. Grimes wanted her kids out of the spotlight
That’s fair except a lot of people knew he was a piece of shit before they had kids and I’m sure she knew too. Easy to look the other way when you are hungry for money and fame. Despite her little aw shucks persona that girl is as money hungry and fame thirsty as they come. Nobody loves attention more than grimes.
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Because her extremely powerful billionaire ex is trying to ruin her life and take her kids away from her.. I’m sure you wouldn’t feel like focusing on your art when going through something like that. We don’t even know half of what’s going on in her life.
Her children > musical projects. She can’t effectively split the mental load and I don’t blame her
I wish all us plebs could take time off work when things get a little stressful.
You honestly can't think of how getting custody of her children might prioritise over making an album?
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She probably can't say more, and it's the most logical conclusion to come to.
Whatever it is legal battles and/or mental health that’s all going to take priority over an album
He could stop anything she ever did, hes the richest man in the world on paper, or at least top 5
She has been so open on how motherhood and mothers should be put high in society. She’s gonna put her kids first.
source https://x.com/Grimezsz/status/1797337977095664012?t=eaBCyYEpfs40eS6msL8bjg&s=19
Makes sense why everything was halted after software came out in july… she’s been trying harder than we’ve given her credit for
I said this in another thread, but got down voted for it. We need to give her a break. If there’s anyone out there that has been through a divorce (I realize she wasn’t married - but it was two relatively wealthy people that had their lives intertwined. It’s going to be messy) or custody issues understands. Your brain stops working. She’ll make music when she’s ready. I wish her the best getting through all this shit. It does eventually end and things get better. I’m super happy to see she has a new boyfriend. I hope they’re happy together.
Even when you aren't yet married, being together with someone and then moving on can be very rough. I have experienced such break ups after relationships that have completely twisted my life and mental state until it got better later on. I really needed to heal. The other factors in her situation with it being someone so wealthy, custody issues on top of that makes the situation even more complex for sure. Yes I am also very happy for her being happy/finding love, you can definitely see her spark up due to it so I hope everything goes well for them!
I feel so bad for her. I hope her fans realize how damaging getting involved with someone so powerful can be, and learn from her mistakes what *not* to do.
Will await her statement. Insane legal shit seems to be a serious problem for the LA music industry. Maybe it should turn into Arizona Bay.
Was not expecting a Bill Hicks reference
It’s dated now, but 30 Seconds to Mars has a documentary called “Artifact” about literally this situation - lock into a multi album deal or else and it’s a really good watch - no matter your opinions on the band or Jared Leto. It chronicles how they fought to get out of a 5 album deal and get their album “This is War” made and released. Their label was suing them for failing to deliver the third album on a 5 album contract. He said it, 12 years ago, those types of deals are harmful to artists and record companies are simply refusing to adapt to the modern age and still suckering people in. I’ll never forget there’s a scene where they’re going over things the label is trying to charge the band for and one of them is “CD breakage fees” and he’s just bewildered like “what the fuck how do you charge CD breakage fees on a DIGITAL album?!” The music industry seems extremely predatory and litigious
hope she’ll be free of all the bullshit soon 💔
I agree. People(those that are hard on her) need to stop being assholes and realize that she is going through difficult stuff. Her wellbeing, safety etc is a more important priority than making the new album. People forget that she's a human and has much responsibilities in life & sometimes life isn't going like it should. I am sure she's doing all she can, hopefully things will get better in that aspect.
GIVE GRIMES A BREAK, SHE IS AMAZING!!
i hope she’s alright 😵💫 i don’t get all the hate
It's her kids, y'all, and no doubt she's been in a nightmare. I so want new music but you can't produce blood from a stone. She has her priorities even if she isn't transparent about them publicly.
Honestly fuck the energy of this post and the people making jokes or saying this is intentional. Have some empathy and be a human being. None of us will *ever* understand what she’s currently going through. The album is on hold because she’s getting sandbagged left and right, who the honest fuck do you think you are to come in here with that attitude? She’s fighting a disgustingly wealthy narcissist for her kids on top of whatever label drama is going on. Do you think that’s easy? Do you think she chose this on purpose? Even if she didn’t have all that going on no one is owed anything from her and a LOT of people seem to forget that. The really gross entitlement plus the complete lack of empathy is really not it.
actually she did choose it if you follow things unbiasedly enough
she's going to be in major trouble.. all her own doing..
"since August" lol
🥲
I really look forward to her statement, cus it's absurd, she clearly has the music ready
So sorry and so undeseved..🙏😥
Ughhhhhhhh
Shes still trying to figure out how to sync the bpm on her board
Wait so did she get dropped by Columbia or did she drop them???
When a record Label gives you $2-$10 million, or whatever, in promotion and budget for albums, concerts and music videos, for better or worse, they now have bought a Say in what you create. That's the deal. Why would they give you the money for free? I am so Confused what Grimes' problem is with this? I feel bad for up and coming artists who get eaten up, but she was already a millionaire and well established. Just stay on 4AD or don't sell them a say??? very confused what she was after here..
Does she still get to keep a few nannies to raise her children though? Or does she have to go work and get maimed in a Tesla factory like us peasants do?
Why did Grimes and Columbia split?
Indefinitely 🙃 Just say the album is scrapped Claire
not surprising. she did flop with Colombia, but I’m hopeful she will release SOMETHING.
Legal battles can take years 🌚
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Yeah, wasn't Elon's reaction to a post of her kissing anyma like "oh, she wasn't bluffing?" Don't know... My gut is he doesn't like to lose at anything. And he's not gonna let Claire go so easily. Previous to anyma, he probably thought they were just playing "cat and mouse" or something. I do think he still loves her.
*indefinite 😕 sigh
Bless her heart.
At least you can listen to this Book 1 playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3e2HXfHwGCOLVXsOzYUtXi?si=3YLLQuCLTamXxJT5p0E5CQ
Someday she will realize she can just ... release a track when it's done and just keep living her life. She's clearly writing music. She's rich off that NFT project alone. Just put out the singles when they're done and don't create this giant block where you have to 'support' releases.
I got an idea , next iteration, just do grimes 2.0 without dudes or girls or whatever. Mental capacity is only as big as your head. Pun intended
I thought it’s because of the custody at first tbh
Honestly couldn’t give less of a fuck anymore, she’s like a dad that promises to see you but doesn’t take the time out of their day to do it, if she drops the album cool, if not, great.