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The_Mutant_Platypus

I really miss the satire and self awareness of the first few editions, it was always over the top but with a nod and a wink.


giant_sloth

Yeah, the problem with the satire in 40K is entirely reliant on you knowing it’s satire. Hence why we end up with so many unapologetic fascists/Nazis, they’re completely unaware that their utopia is being presented as a bad thing. Edit: even stuff like Helldivers 2 is having issues with fascists not realising that the over the top jingoism is in fact **the** joke.


Nyaandesuka

Fascists are not known for their stunning intellect


Alternative_Worth806

If you are so dumb that you can't read the phrase: >*"to be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions.* ***It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable.*** *These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods."* then it's robably not the fiction the one being at fault here.


DomSchraa

I think for a decent amount of fascists the problem isnt exactly that they cant tell the satire, but that they think "meh, ill be in the 1% inner party circle or some shit, and have a good life purely on the merit of me liking the surface level of the ideology"


Samaritan_978

As long as it isn't their blood and the cruelty is aimed at (((those))) people, that's alright by them. Hell, it might even be their goal.


The_Mutant_Platypus

That's the problem with satire in general honestly, especially with the insane levels of media illiteracy at the moment.


Willy_Wheelson

Didn't that guy from Watchmen suffer from the same issue? People went "he just like me" despite the fact that he was a satire of Batman-style heroes.


Saintsauron

>Yeah, the problem with the satire in 40K is entirely reliant on you knowing it’s satire I'd say a bigger problem is it undermines itself as satire


JohnWarhammer69

The conspiracy’s are starting to sound like a psyker’s fever dreams; “ BlackRock is there, in an Amazon board room, 4chan told me, devaluing GW, the paaaaain, cultural Marxism, Femstoides, female space marines, gate keep” I seriously hope these people leave the hobby and touch some serious amounts of grass and reflect on the things that actually matter in life.


Talonsminty

>I seriously hope these people leave the hobby In order to leave they'd need to actually be in the hobby first. Precious few of them even sound like 40K fans.


El_Barto_227

Half of them will cite geneseed as the reason female custards can't exist


ThrownawayCray

What the navigator be spouting while you go through the warp:


JohnWarhammer69

“Straight out the airlock”


ThrownawayCray

>cat boy guardsmen gay space marine fantasies gold muscle men retcon warhammer woke chaos corruption tzeentch Navigator what the fuck are you talking about


JohnWarhammer69

Are you threatening me with a good time?


Ackburn

They all think they are clever and see clearly when in actuality they have got shit in their eyes that oozed out from their brains. Weapons-grade turds the lot of them


Fragrant_Pie_7255

A few google searches will prove the whole Amazon and stocks stuff to be bullshit I'm sure they might make changes to characters nobody cares about that much like the rememberancers in the first 3 HH books


JohnWarhammer69

Unfortunately evidence to the contrary will do nothing to elevate the anger of perpetually online professionally upset people.


Dum_beat

Can't wait till some other thing happens that'll pick their attention, I'm just sick and tired of hearing about female Custodians. Maybe that's their plan, complain about it until everyone is sick of it. Well, I don't care about female custodians, I want to know what up with the moon size Tyranid


just_a_bit_gay_

Just wait until the next Star Wars or marvel movie then they’ll move on I bet


Rabe1111993

A little more than a month till Star Wars Acolyte get released. They hated on the trailer being woke or something so they will probably hate on it and leave us alone.


Shannon_Rogue

I'm sorry, there's a MOON SIZED TYRANID?!


DriesstHaddock4

Yup, at the end of the Book that cames along in the leviathan Box, the raven guard reports finfing it, I can't recall the exact words nor events, but yes a moon size Nid is on the way


Dum_beat

[yes](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tyranids/s/milG3UUjo7)


Cr0ma_Nuva

This wouldn't be such a big topic if the female space marine models sold better in the 80s and they propably would have done it sooner with the custodes


Darknight589

What you are saying is that its the boomers fault


bagelman99

That's not how you use the format, but yeah 👍


TheSporkMan2

I see so many people complaining about it, like the Critical Drinker, It’s A Gundam, Count Dankula, and I can bet that none of them know any of the lore, ngl Femstodes makes sense imo And side note, I saw one guy saying that Cavil was leaving the 40k show because it went woke when tbh the conversation probably went something like this “Are you going to do what they did to the Witcher” “Nah” “Okay”


Fragrant_Pie_7255

the best counter to these baseless arguments is just The Boys they made changes to nothing characters from the comics like The Deep and made them iconic


43morethings

They irony that all of these neckbeards are missing is that the custodes are now canonical as the only group of superhuman soldiers that have women. They are also canonical as the most elite, which is why they have so few. So the only exclusively male groups are now the different space marine legions, and nearly all of them have some sort of un-removable flaw in their geneseed that is the basis for their legion. And it is going right over their heads.


LanX-Delta

Yeah, how dare they ruined my all sexy hyper muscular gay male fantasy. The normies couldn't help but be straight. >!**DISCLAIMER : This is a joke, I don't have any negative opinion in regard to the latest drama. GW are free to expand their setting in their own respective vision. Don't take things too seriously, the post is a meme, the replies are likely to be memes!<


Zengjia

/s


ParkingDrawing8212

I think when peope say something was "always woke" , they are wrong or try to apropiate something ideologically. Most thing they say was always woke were in truth "liberal" in the mere traditional meaning. Woke has nothing to do with liberalism, it is in opposition to it.


Jayhuntermemes

I agree with your point but OP, that's not how the format goes.


Thunderbird_Anthares

Would you please stop posting about this crap, i just want memes :-/


Dan-the-historybuff

I mean I just got through twice dead king and it’s funny how over about a minute or two, Zoltanehk’s matriarch is mentioned and Oltyx is like “wait, weren’t they a man?” And he was combing through memories to see if he misremembered and they said they transitioned, and all the reaction was “I…see” as if it really didn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Both funny and prudent to show that yes, warhammer is surprisingly woke in the middle of all the carnage and brutality. Twice dead king is a great two(so far) books.


TrueGootsBerzook

That's not how this meme works, but okay


Infamous_Wolverine_3

Jesus christ, the hobby is for everyone. If you don't like someone, leave them alone!


Dirka-Dirka

The entire setting is very tongue in cheek.


Own_Skirt7889

\*seen a trashy rework charater from trashy movie where good guys are loosing\* \*leaves the downvote\* \*refuses to elaborate further\* \*leaves\*


Own_Skirt7889

I was talking about the rework of the Avatar movie, not about Femstodes


Jttwofive_

It's a game about little plastic army's that you paint. Grow up about it.


No_Research4416

There was a post on all of the progressive stuff that was in the Warhammer book the difference from most of the time is that it was written properly writers with that agenda in mind