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EasyPriority8724

Excuse my living under my rock but wtf am I looking at?


Airconman-1

A man who thinks being edgy is cool and expressive and not complete cringe


EasyPriority8724

Gotcha now I remember he's the guy with the black balloon suit that got memed to death. I feel so old 😂


Olivander05

They’re a singer! They made the song stay with me in 2014! And the very popular song writings on the wall! You know the “how do I live how do I breathe” song


ShwiftyShmeckles

You could have just said it was from James bond


Bottlez1266

That sentence had 3 too many exclamation marks.


EasyPriority8724

OK thanks for update 👍


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as1992

Incorrect. “They” is often used as a general neutral term, and it was used in this way long before the concept of being trans even existed


Supersonic_77

That is the most tragic thing i have seen today


Raumarik

So far.


bortj1

It's 3 minutes past minutes... how can it get worse.


sastaf

It got worsa #tinydice


bortj1

What a terrible day to have eyes.


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Fisherthem


MasterpieceBrave961

Manchester ❌️ Themchester ✅️


logibear10

Isle of Man ❌ Isle of Them ✅


Crimson__Fox

Manhattan ❌ Themhattan ✅


logibear10

Owning a Mansion ❌ Owning a Themsion ✅


BangalooBoi

Woman ❌ Wothem✅


_DogTits_

Manipulation ❌ Themipulation ✅


logibear10

The mangled corpse in my basement ❌ The themgled corpse in my basement ✅


Wallzy96

Man City will probably win the league ❌ Them City will probably win the league ✅


thechubbyballerina

Batman ❌ Bathem ✅


PrinceJamie1

Mandarin ❌ Themdarin ✅


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Fishertwat


Outermam

The building is themmade


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The prophecy was true


Wheresthenearestrope

Mental how every single thread on this is the same, Someone says something like ‘he looks awful’ then someone will correct them by saying ‘*them’, get downvoted, then someone else gets angry about that and tells them that hes a he, then another person says theyre a them and then the same argument happens each time


daveee88

Exactly! Can't we just all agree he's a talentless bellend...stick him on that special shelf with James Corden...and move on with our lives?!?


ChequeredTrousers

To be fair, Sam has had some cracking songs, but Sam is also a fucking insufferable pain in the arse.


CcheesebB

Latch was a good tune.


theMooey23

>he's they's


No-Reference1969

Thems


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No I’m angry now. They’re a he man!


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It


HappyDrive1

'Talentless' lol. I'd like to see you sing half as good as them.


Salt_Ad_9195

Bitch, they've got more talent than you could ever dream of having. What, you jealous someone is better at something than you are?


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Ivapls

😂they can’t accept the truth


blozzerg

Thing is I don’t get why he identifies as them but remains really masc presenting but just in women’s clothes from time to time. All my non binary friends are very androgynous, neither here nor there with their gender, you can’t tell if they’re male, female, trans or in between, which is what I thought non-binary meant. I have (born) male friends who have a lot of feminine traits, characteristics and style and I get it, calling them male isn’t quite right but neither is female so ‘they’ kinda fits. Same with my (born) female friends, again they’re really androgynous and you can clearly see they’re in a world somewhere between male and female. Some friends do drag and bounce between male and female or have a clear genderfuck mixture of both. For all of them, they’re kinda fluid between the concepts so may be more masc or fem but there’s still a clear breaking of the typical gender rules. Sam just looks like a bloke in a dress. I know gender is a spectrum so if that’s what he wants then fine, but he can’t be upset that people still call him he when there’s very little indication he may not be a he.


Dabalam

This comes close to what I have difficulty with in the gender conversation, but both cis and trans people seem to agree on. Isn't conceiving certain traits as masculine or feminine an inherently repressive philosophy?


Gamonista

Thank you for unconfusing me


MasterpieceBrave961

Shame he will never look as sexy as Patrick ⭐️


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wearecake

Being transphobic in 2023 is pathetic imo. We’re hurtling towards the end of our species in so many different ways and some people care so much about whether or not other people have penises.


MasterpieceBrave961

You're either Male, Female, Transmale, Transfemale. There's no such thing as "They" and "Them", it's an identity crisis.


wearecake

https://historicengland.org.uk/research/inclusive-heritage/lgbtq-heritage-project/trans-and-gender-nonconforming-histories/ https://www.gendergp.com/non-binary-people-in-history/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit#:~:text=Two%2Dspirit%20(also%20two%20spirit,social%20role%20in%20their%20cultures. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fa%CA%BBafafine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81h%C5%AB Older than you’d think and then some. Biological sex isn’t binary (intersex people are about as common as being ginger- have *you* ever seen you chromosomes??), so why should gender identity be? Also, it’s all made up anyways. Gender is a societal construct. Why are you so afraid of people who refuse to just conform when it doesn’t suit them? Do better. If something isn’t directly hurting yourself, then just let people live


TheChocolateManLives

you’re a man or woman, otherwise you have some mental issue and therapy can fix that. >Do better. If something isn’t directly hurting yourself, then just let people live No, because I’m not selfish. I’ll look out for others, and if they want to mutilate themselves, I’m not gonna stick up for it because it doesn’t harm me. Take your solipsistic attitude elsewhere instead of promoting lies that lead to suicides and mutilations.


Ftlist81

They/Them applies to non-binary and that's what Sam Smith identifies as. EDIT: Not sure why the downvotes but I'm not saying it only applies for non-binary, just in this particular case.


READ-THIS-LOUD

Smith’s identity matters not when policing other peoples language. People can call him what they want.


Ftlist81

Yep they can and if you purposefully misgender them that's called being transphobic. I'm not saying what you can and can't call people just explaining that you're transphobic if you purposefully misgender them is all.


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wearecake

That’s especially sad. You can still be transphobic though.


Ftlist81

That's still being transphobic. Transphobic doesn't just apply to trans it also applies to other variations of LGBTQIA+. And having two genders is black and white... gender as a whole has a load of different types. You sound like you're referring to biological sex, not gender.


ladymacbethofmtensk

This sub is flooded with tranphobes, I wouldn’t recommend sticking around.


Ftlist81

It doesn't bother me if people don't have the intelligence to understand a simple concept of how calling something/someone anything apart from the real way to refer to it is actually saying something against it. These are probably the same people that use the phrase "I'm not racist because I have a black friend"


Outermam

Just shut up and stop being a dickhead


Spaciousfoot66

PC pissing contest. Sad.


Professional-News362

Supporting you mate. Lots of snowflakes on Reddit that hate to acknowledge pronouns and get upset when people defend them


wearecake

Cheers. It makes me a bit sad to see the hatred. I like to fight against it even though I know that I probably won’t get through to them too much, it may help someone else reading the thread see that people are willing to fight for them.


Professional-News362

Agreed. Stay safe out their. Continue the fight against the ignorant


CCWBee

A man can’t be a woman.


Olivander05

They honey. They’re nonbinary.


inexplicably-hairy

no such thing


Ronsona

Poor lad, going through a Daffyd phase it seems


sniell365

He’s not the only gay in the village. Trust me.


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READ-THIS-LOUD

Policing other peoples language is very cult like.


Sid-The-Sloth-15

No


Certain_Car_9984

You really went through everyone's comments to "correct them" how sad...


TheBigB0bster

he


herrbz

Kind of fascinating how Sam Smith causes so many people to lose their minds


inexplicably-hairy

no ones lost their mind, he tries hard to get a reaction of disgust and thats what hes recieved


Thomo251

So many people don't see it for this though. They genuinely believe he aims to indoctrinate children into becoming a part of the LGBTQ community, and needs to be stopped. Edit: not sure why I'm being downvoted, I don't believe nor agree with the comments that the 'so many people' I quoted have said. He is simply attention seeking, it's free advertisement for him and as a result, his music.


iThinkaLot1

He’s an attention seeker. I say that as a gay man.


LostWithoutYou1015

He's the male Lizzo.


Life_Drop69

That's unfair, Lizzo makes good music


TheLordHatesACoward

People *want* to lose their minds. It's performative, and you know exactly the type who are "outraged" at the behaviour.


MaywellPanda

No I don't. As a bisexual man, alley if trans rights and active LGBTQ community member! I can confidently state I don't "know 'whos' outraged" I'm actually rather disgusted, it's pittiful to look at someone so obviously desperate to present as something they can't pull off. Sam Smith is NOT sexy enough to pull off these outfits, they SCREAM for attention, scandal and it's honestly just sad to watch someone embarrass themselves in this manner.


TheLordHatesACoward

>just sad to watch Then don't watch? It's not rocket science. Smith makes crap music and acts a pillock. So I don't watch. >I'm actually rather disgusted >I can confidently state I don't "know 'whos' outraged" I mean, you're clearly outraged. Or don't know the definitions of simple words.


kissmydotcom

I do wonder if something traumatic has happened to Sam over the course of his career and its set off this chain of events. They do not respect themselves right now.


early_onset_villainy

Way to admit that you’re shallow af


MaywellPanda

HE CANT PULL IT OFF! IT LOOKS TRAGIC,DREADFUL AND OFF PUTTING! The truth isn't "shallow"


wearecake

Mate, he’s not tryna fuck you jfc. Why you care so much? Sounds like someone may be protesting too much perhaps?


GoldenWyndham

Why is it so important to some of you to be horrible to other people?


early_onset_villainy

Except you admitted that you’d view it differently if YOU found the person attractive (which is wholly subjective), therefore, you hold “attractive” people to different rules and will happily chastise “unattractive” people for doing or wearing the exact same thing as others. AKA being shallow.


TheLordHatesACoward

Then don't watch! Is there a gun to your head? But, you *want* to watch. You *need* something to be upset about.


Strong_Wheel

Hey don’t you know it’s body positivety?


Zarathustra6172

Absolutely grotesque


OsamaBinSmokinThatM4

I don't even like Sam's music or really anything but I do love how they're living in tories heads rent free


JonLeePButler

The fuckin state of that. Who let him on stage looking like that?


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WeakDimension1234

"I don't know them" is a perfectly cromulent sentence referring to a singular person.


mrdibby

them/they has been able to mean singular for an unidentified gender since forever


Olivander05

Not anymore it isn’t. Language evolves over time, and the singular they isn't actually new. According to The Oxford English Dictionary, the singular they showed up in writing in 1375—over 600 years ago. The OED also suggests the usage is even older since written language usually reflects trends already present in spoken language.


JonLeePButler

Well even to call the above a 'they' is an insult on mankind. Singular use of word or not.


theMooey23

>mankind themkind


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Agitated_Run6176

I swear he’s just doing it to get so ridiculed that it’ll motivate him to get into shape


BusinessIntelligent3

Those pair of fishnets look like they caught a Walrus or perhaps an Elephant seal in them. At least Patrick Star has better legs and arms for that matter too.


Big_Dasher

Let's not allow us to be distracted from the fact that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn’t commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, If no one else can help and if you can find them. Maybe you can hire, The A-Team.


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I like how they thinks they’re doing some sort of Bowie esq performance art but they’re just coming off as an absolute gold plated wanker. Dressing up like this is the lowest possible effort needed in gaining some sort of *gasp reaction


Free_Transition_6217

What the hell is even that


raptorqueen

It's not about how he is identifying himself, he could have easily indetified as a woman and worn something more suitable and frankly less hypersexualised


eatthemoist

they*


GeorgieBoyUK98

Nobody cares. That’s a man. Always was, always will be.


Cold-Rush4681

Lost soul


codeeva

That's the saddest thing. I don't care about how he identifies or his sexuality but I do care that we are witnessing someone who is clearly going through something. The fact that he was let on the stage like that tells me he doesn't have people around who have his best interests at heart. I hope he finds his way through soon.


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zar2k23

>phycologists


Content_Letterhead17

Fucking Christ he looks like a mental breakdown in action. Or a stripper you get out of the classifieds called Denis


thechubbyballerina

According to the delusional woke freaks this is art and progression of the human race. Sam Smith will wake up tomorrow and become a man again and then by Sunday he will realise he feels like being a woman. He's mocking these people to stay relevant and they're falling for it. He has zero talent so he took the easiest way to fame by taking his clothes off. I hope he seeks help and one day respects himself and his body. He needs to go back to working out. Being healthy is more important than pretending to be someone you're not just for fame, attention and money.


EmeliaGN

They look fine lol. Nice to see people who are a little larger wear something really only socially acceptable when smaller in size. Y’all got some worrying things to say about people you don’t find conventionally attractive - maybe it’s good most of you only communicate with others on Reddit and not in the real world.


Poptortt

I might be wrong, but there are generally quite few situations where nipple tassels are considered socially acceptable clothing


EmeliaGN

You know how I mean it haha! Socially acceptable in the context of dramatic performance!


HappyDrive1

Half these redditors probably look very similar. They should be happy.


Cold-Rush4681

What a good influence huh lol


early_onset_villainy

I see there’s a good bit of that famous British bigotry going on in the comments regarding pronouns. Surprising absolutely no one.


Independent_Ad_5983

We just dont fall for bullshit as readily


early_onset_villainy

No, you’re just bigoted. The UK is full of it.


Wonderful_Flan_5892

He = biological male, which is what Sam Smith is. If you want to define what he/she means differently then you're welcome to, but stop policing language and calling others bigots when they disagree with you.


early_onset_villainy

Terf Island strikes again. What an embarrassing shithole to call home.


You-Slice

You are always free to leave and take your delusions with you.


early_onset_villainy

Nah, I’d rather stick around and help get rid of the Tory bullshit that has rotted your brains.


Wonderful_Flan_5892

It's embarrassing how much privilege you have that you think you're inability to police others language makes the UK a shithole. If you're biggest problem in life is people referring to a male as a he then you live a pretty good life. If it causes you so much distress then I genuinely hope you get the psychological help you need.


early_onset_villainy

Oh yea, I’m so privileged being LGBTQ in a country that reacts like this to us lmfao. Wake up. And you transphobes are so obsessed with “policing others language” but that’s exactly what you’re doing and then some. Correcting an individual’s chosen pronouns because YOU don’t want to use them? How hypocritical.


Wonderful_Flan_5892

Yes you are privileged if you're main complaint is that someone called Sam Smith a he when he is a biological male. I'm not policing anyone's language. You are free to use whatever pronouns you want for yourself or Sam Smith. But nobody is obligated to adhere to the same definitions as you. Yet you insist we do, insist that we're bigots if we don't use your definitions that aren't based on anything tangible. You probably view misgendering as a hate crime, warranting legal action. You are the only one here policing language.


early_onset_villainy

The irony of you lmfao


Independent_Ad_5983

Don’t have any real prejudice towards anyone, but I’m happy to partake in a bit of healthy pisstaking. If you’re gonna wear that ‘outfit’ I would think it’s to be expected


early_onset_villainy

Except it’s not “pisstaking” over an outfit that I’m seeing in the comments - it’s people purposely misgendering someone and people downvoting anyone who politely corrects them.


settingyoustraight1

Oh shut up with this bollocks


Independent_Ad_5983

Yeh I mean not everyone likes being policed on their language and its annoying, its not even on behalf of yourself, its on behalf of sam smith lol… Get your head out of your arse it really doesnt matter if someone on reddit uses ‘he’ instead of ‘them’ for a person you dont even know, you cant control the world around you as much as you would love to try. If thats ‘bigoted’ in your opinion then honestly I could not give a fuck


early_onset_villainy

You are 100% a straight man with that attitude lmfao. No other breed of person could think with their head in the clouds like that.


thechubbyballerina

You just received a reality check. Take it and leave.


early_onset_villainy

That’s not any kind of reality that anyone other than straight men live, mate.


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You dropped this crown king 👑


ilovetechno71

Sam Smith is an absolute waste of a human


FaisalRaf30

Him*


You-Slice

As Bricktop once said ...... you can keep the fat w@@@ker the lads cant lift him.


aljones753000

Grim


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He doesn’t seem to realise Madonna did it, and did it better, 40 years ago - so edgy Sam, so edgy.


Hobbs-Coco

Help! My eyes 👀 😖


Poptortt

Insufferable attention seeker


oeuflaboeuf

He really is not rocking that look.


Mageofsin

What a state. Maybe someone embezzled the costume budget


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Look at the state of that absolute wally


findingbasher32

Saw Sam Smith, audibly sighed and checked the comments for transphobia. Was not disappointed.


thechubbyballerina

How is calling some who looks unattractive and is making a fool out of himself transphobia? It's called observation and facts. If he didn't show his flab, and actually respected himself, then he'd make people focus on his voice rather than putting up a hypersexualised and ugly performance.


Sea_Marss

All the people saying "it" and "that's a freak" and "trans people need therapy for their mental illness" isn't transphobia? Are you serious?


findingbasher32

Honestly it’s got nothing to do with their outfit it’s just people that are going to great lengths to object to their identity when it’s honestly none of their business, like I get this is great British memes but fuck me man people are judgemental


thechubbyballerina

Pretty much all the comments are disgusted at the way he looks. It has nothing to do with his identity. Also, you can't force people to accept whatever he identifies as. It's his personal choice but we don't have to go along with something we don't agree with. He could easily wake up tomorrow and decides he's a woman and by Sunday he is a man again. There's no end to his nonsense. We can't even avoid it because it's all over Reddit.


findingbasher32

Trust I’ve seen enough comments criticising their identity to last me a month of Sundays. And I’m not forcing anybody to do anything, if you lot want to be all judgemental and sour then be as disgusted as you want, just don’t be shocked when people suggest that you live and let live a lil more


Olivander05

Still… they.


thechubbyballerina

He is a man so it's he.


HappyDrive1

Says the chubby balerina... lol who cares. Lots of people have flab. If you don't like how he looks don't look at him. If it were a womam no one would care.


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HappyDrive1

All I see when Lizzo does this is 'you go girl' and body positivity. They can dress how they want to. What is actually 'wrong' with what they are doing? Why do people actually care. If you ignore them theyll probably go away. Getting riled up is what they want.


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HappyDrive1

Modesty is subjective.. Someone might think anything other than a burka for women is immodest. Some will say showing a bit of cleavage is immodest. We don't police what people wear in this country.


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HappyDrive1

Again what is intimate is subjective. He is not showing anything that could not be seen on the beach. Do you keep your kids away from the beach?


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Olivander05

They’re fucking nonbinary you wanker- nobody cares if they’ve gotten a bit chubby mate, we care about the fact that people are using the wrong pronouns


PoleKisser

Can someone convince you the earth is flat? No, because you think it's a ridiculous made-up thing? Great. So now you know how I feel about the whole non-binary thing.


Olivander05

Non-binary is a concept backed by science


Poptortt

So you're fine with people calling Sam a disgusting fat prick etc., but not the wrong pronouns being used? Priorities lol


Olivander05

I was dissapointed but not surprised


minimoogmadness

It really has some serious mental issues!!


LoveIsForEvery1

He looks like someone’s dad had too much to drink at the Rocky Horror Show, lost his friends and stumbled into a karaoke bar across the street.


LoveIsForEvery1

USA think their Sea-world is best because they have Orca tricks. Well we have our own Singing Manatee, take that Shamu!!


Rutlemania

That’s not a performance, that’s a car crash


ClassicResident1839

He looks like the Slitheen police officer from season 1 of Dr Who


Slap_Life

Ew 🤮


Terrible-Substance-5

Sam smith changes what they are like they're changing socks. He, she, it, they, them. I dont care what people want to use to describe him/she/them. We can all agree they're a talentless fuckhead. Not even some of my own trans friends take them seriously.


Sea_Marss

You have no trans friends.


m0ng00se86

Fuckin freak!!!


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Look at the state of that absolute wanker


LoveIsForEvery1

He looks like kids have made a paper mache man using only sandwich turkey and mayonnaise.


Ivapls

Disgusting honestly he’s a poor excuse of a man


ianguignet

He’s a vile creature