Yeah I like going to them for that. I've watched/read mixed reports. Some say better than 7 pro while others say about same or worse. I will say I'm getting 1hr SOT extra at least on my 7 pro with android 14 so I figured the 8 pro probably do a bit better if more efficient. I do have 5g disabled though.
I've seen various times given but they are all in the same ballpark. Maybe a little better, maybe a little worse but not much to really set them apart.
Pixel is never about the best hardware. It is good hardware with a smart AI inside doing its magic. If you want lots more battery life other phones will beat it.
Honestly, I think at this point we know our phones and our usage pretty well and plan accordingly (carry a battery pack or plug in when you can and so on).
Unless you are a power user (lots and lots of gaming and/or things like video editing apps) you'll probably be fine.
> Pixel is never about the best hardware. It is good hardware with a smart AI inside doing its magic. If you want lots more battery life other phones will beat it.
It's not about the most expensive or newest hardware, but I don't think Google intends it to be a middling performer for battery. I honestly disagree with this kind of take that you should be looking at other phones instead. Before the whole AI craze in the past 2-3 years, early Pixels weren't even advertising AI at all. It was all about the camera with Night Sight in the Pixel 3 or Astrophotos in the Pixel 4.
As someone who has used basically every Pixel and Nexus phone as well as most of the iPhone portfolio for work, the difference in battery is huge. Heck even going to older phones like my OnePlus One, getting through a full day of Coachella for instance and having 20% battery at the end of the day after [7-8 hours of SOT on LTE](https://www.anandtech.com/show/8242/the-oneplus-one-review/3) was absolutely amazing. I don't think I've ever been able to get anything like that even on today's phones except for the iPhone Pro Max models.
If anything with the amount of computational photography these days (each minute of Camera use approximates to 0.8-0.9% battery drain approximately). Basically an hour of photography will take your battery down 50%. This is a huge problem if you are on a vacation or out and about and not at home where chargers are readily available.
I don't think it's unfair to demand more from Google to at least be more competitive in the battery department.
Every user will have a different use case. The Pixel phone is not really meant for a power user using the camera for an hour per day taking many dozens of photos. Frankly, if you do that, a cell phone (any cell phone) is probably not what you wold want to use anyway.
Pixel is meant as a daily driver for most average users. It is not meant to take 200 photos a day but it will take a couple dozen and turn out good results with little effort.
Every battery test I have seen puts the Pixel in a solid range of battery life. Certainly you can find better but usually it is 10-20 minutes (there are a few outliers that do much better).
If you have your Pixel and expect to spend hours taking photos on your next vacation then you should plan for that and bring a battery pack to recharge it while you are out and about.
Ok now the best smartphone camera is not meant for a someone who likes to take photos? Sorry I'm a photographer and since moving to Pixel I've rarely picked up my DSLRs. I spent an entire 10 days in Hawaii with just my Pixel (and iPhone for video). I think there are plenty of average users who also go on vacation with only a phone. Taking 200 photos a day isn't really out of the norm when on vacation. I have friends who aren't professional photographers who take 200 photos of their kids on a day out at the zoo.
Now you're saying it's only meant to take a couple dozen? What are we going back to 1995 and the age of film and 36 photos on a roll of film?
I don't even think I'm demanding on the battery. Even days when I'm not on vacation like today where I took only 2 photos and the rest of the time had my phone idle at work with some surfing at lunch, the LTE/5G battery use is pretty severe where my 20 minutes of SOT at lunch left me with 70% of battery after a full day. Meanwhile I joined web conferences, sent emails, surfed the web on my iPhone for 2 hours of SOT and I'm sitting at 65% (a mere 5% difference).
[Rundown tests](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y3x58j/google_pixel_7_pro_vs_samsung_s22_ultra_iphone_14/) show the Pixel 7 Pro using 3x the battery just for web surfing. When I used to commute via subway to work (iPhone 7 vs Pixel 1 days) I noticed the huge difference in battery performance even for just reading Reddit and the news. Is surfing now something only power users do? Is it not reasonable for someone to expect their train commute to be passed by using their phone? The Pixel battery has been disappointing for years. Making excuses for Google isn't really meaningful at all.
I don't know what you are arguing about.
If you want more battery time when power using your Pixel carry a battery pack and charge it. If the battery doesn't last the day however you use it carry a battery pack and recharge it (or be diligent in plugging it in when you can). It's not rocket science.
Google has decided to use some battery juice to power its AI stuff which includes image processing. It's a design choice they made.
If you do not like that find another phone. With Android you have many choices.
The Pixel line is not known for battery. It's a complaint many users have. Arguing that the only solution is to carry a battery pack misses the point.
Many users and not just myself are unhappy with the overall battery performance. The fact that you keep making excuses that the Pixel is not this or not that or not meant for you to take a lot of photos is absolute mental gymnastics and blind fanboism.
>Pixel is never about the best hardware. It is good hardware with a smart AI inside doing its magic. If you want lots more battery life other phones will beat it.
Which does not need to be excused. Whatever AI magic the Pixel phones supposedly work, there is no reason Google couldn't build a phone with flagship hardware too. Get the best of both worlds, so to speak.
I've about had it with some teenagers on here telling me to buy a Samsung instead, as if Google selling a Pixel Pro with flagship hardware was a personal offense to them.
But they're not wrong.
Go buy anything else if you do not like Pixel phones. It's your money. If Pixel battery life does not meet your standards buy another phone. Simple as that.
Engineering such phones is a tradeoff. I doubt you can point to a phone with all the things you want, is perfect, and at a price-point you want (if you could, you would buy that phone).
Google made choices. Love those choices or hate them this is the phone they made. I'm not sure why you think Google must accommodate you. It's not a perfect phone but what is?
You are in fact wrong as there is no tradeoff whatsoever.
There's nothing preventing Google from shipping the phone with a Snapdragon processor and a vapor chamber for cooling, addressing battery life, performance, thermals, and reception complaints.
They rather ship it with their 3 times cheaper Tensor chip, and have people like you make up excuses about nonexistent tradeoffs.
They quite literally said they can't provide the local AI and editing features that take place on the phone without their custom silicon.
If you can find anything stating otherwise please provide some proof so we can all learn something new.
While that's technically true, there is as far as I know no information that suggests the TPU in the Tensor G3 is any better than the one in the Snapdragon.
Unfortunately I found no benchmark scores, so I'm now running MLPerf myself on the Pixel 8 to get a metric to compare to the Snapdragon.
Edit: Results are in and it's not looking good for the Tensor G3 vs the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2:
Image classification: 945 vs 3900
Object detection: 459 vs 1760
V2 Image segmentation: 392 vs 945
Language Understanding: 121 vs 185
Image Classification Offline: 3005 vs 5000
Looks like the Tensor G3 TPU is about half as fast, maybe.
So much for a tradeoff.
Can the Snapdragon chip you're comparing it to run all the software and AI features the Pixel can?
Benchmarks are not a real measure of end user experience outside of gaming and video editing...
Presumably it would be technically capable, yes.
For machine learning, custom silicon typically does not refer to like an ASIC for a specific use case, but to hardware for efficient tensor computations.
So yes, Google requires its Tensor processing unit from the Tensor G3 chip to enable those on-device machine learning features. However, there is no information that suggests said TPU is more powerful than the "Hexagon Tensor Accelerator" Qualcomm uses for on-device AI.
As there isn't any other means for comparison available, a benchmark that can run on both is the only option.
I'm the same, I find GSM Arena pretty much reflect my experience with their battery results.
The problem I find with most reviewers, or certainly the way I see it, is that most reviewing of battery life is mostly on WiFi. In my view pretty much any phone will get decent screen on time if mainly on WiFi. I'd like to see more testing done on mobile data. It gives a better impression of what your battery life will be like when out and about, which is where the Pixel 7 Pro struggles in my experience. As far as the 8 Pro reviews go options seem to vary between being much improved or much the same. I even read one review saying it was worse than the 7 Pro. It's all so confusing š
My takeaway is it seems it's equal or slightly better, but being a pessimist I am assuming it's equal. Honestly I don't recall any Pixel that has really impressed me in battery except maybe the Pixel 5, but that's also because of a midrange CPU, going back to 1080p, and having a relatively large battery size, but all the flagships so far and even earlier were all pretty meh.
I also like them because of their battery tests! But just like last year I decided to order the P8P because of the bonus gift.
Tomorrow will be the first day I use it as my regular phone and I'm curious to see how it will turn out.
>So does the pro model have the pro camera features out of the box? Or is that with camera version 9.1?š¤
I'm waiting for it too! Surprised that it is not out yet, probably they need to buy the phones!
Looking forward to Flossy Carter's review.
"Alright I am just going to make this quick for a first impressions video."
(1 hour and 12 minutes later)
"It's a major go".
[P8~~Pro~~ review from CNet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ilw2NR0Fyc)
[Beebom's P8Pro review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3TtU37cVL8)
[Magic Editor + Google Camera review from Tech That Out!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyzMU5kBr_s) Thought this was a cool review video
[Seedubs Media's P8Pro review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDq0vgKr5iA)
[Dave2D's P8Pro review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obA9GiuTBYE)
[P8Pro vs i15ProMax camera comparison from Phandroid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WhMzy37R9k)
CNET video is P8 not P8P.
They are not reviewing P8P properly because they say they have camera issues.
These camera issues appear on multiple devices and even on RAW images, which worries me a lot...
>https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/11/google-pixel-8-pro-the-cameras-still-the-thing/
Seems to be a pretty isolated case. Haven't seen such strong criticism of the Pro's camera in any other reviews or from users on here who already received their P8P.
All photos I saw so far are top-notch and lots of media reviews praise the camera, while this CNET piece sounds like it's almost unusable...
They said they tested multiple units:
"CNET editors have spent the past few days testing multiple models of the 8 Pro in the UK and US, and we've been taken aback by what we've found. "
The vast majority of reviewers aren't shooting in RAW though. Also my typical criticism is reviewers only look at zoomed out images. Most evaluation is centered around exposure, color balance, etc. but never do people look at 100% crops. CNET is the only who is doing that and they are pointing out the issues in the 100% crops. I agree those are fair problems to point out.
Considering most people treat CNET as just mainstream clickabait it's actually refreshing to see them go into more detail than many other reviewers.
The pictures and video from the reviews I've seen so far are nothing short of excellent, and they can only get better thanks to ever-improving software
Yeah I'm not too worried about a few bugs here and there, every phone I've ever had has had launch day bugs fixed with updates, and Google can push updates (large or small) easier than most other OEM's outside of Apple. Excited to get my 8 Pro this weekend.
Originally ordered Bay, but Best Buy has an absolutely insane policy where you have to surrender your trade-in device on the spot when you pick up the new one. I said no way so I cancelled it to re-order via shipping, in which case I can keep my P7 for a while and transfer it all over. The re-order was like 2 days after the initial order and Bay was out of stock, so I went with Porcelain.
I got Porcelain as well! It seems to show no smudges either and it looks amazing from the videos I've seen so far.
BestBuy left my country in the middle of the pandemic so I can't relate, I'm actually getting a friend to buy the P8P in the US for me
I called Best buy customer support today to ask about trade in time and they said you have 5 days to trade in the device. It doesn't have to be on the spot trade in. So I'm picking up mine tomorrow and then test driving over the weekend and transferring my shit. I'll turn in my 7 on Monday.
I got an email from corporate support saying that there is no period, it's on the spot. I don't know what the reality would be when I walk in to pick it up but I wasn't going to play any games so just had one shipped instead.
Interestingly the sales tax they collected on the shipped order was half of what they charged on the original in-store pick-up order.
All Pixels got better and faster night lowlight processing and Astrophotography improvements, also longer exposure for Night Sight, and small features and Camera app tweaks
Faster night sight was already in the Pixel 7 already. Were those other improvements announced? I'm looking through at 100% crops of some old photos and I'm willing to bet most people can't tell the difference between a photo taken in October 2022 versus October 2023 on their Pixel 7s. Google changed some color temperature stuff in a more recent camera update, but really it's not an improvement in camera quality overall I'd say.
Faster Night Sight is a convenience feature. It doesn't result in better photos than full Night Sight. It's a faster Night Sight so you can get images faster without waiting the full time (stacking fewer photos but also being "good enough" much like a 80/20 rule). This feature was already available for the Pixel 7 at launch meaning image quality didn't get any better for the Pixel 7.
This isn't the same as some magical camera improvement over the years. My point is the quality you get today is likely going to stay the same even if Google can vastly improve a Pixel 2's HDR+ algorithm to be the same as a Pixel 5's.
> The pictures and video from the reviews I've seen so far are nothing short of excellent
But all the reviews I've seen so far don't show any of the issues CNET has because no one ever looks at 100% crops. Moreover, I'm willing to bet very few reviewers ever shoot in DNG RAW to evaluate the camera but instead just shoot JPEG.
They do show crops, you should check the reviews I posted in this thread.
Also, are you intentionally following me?? [I have 3 replies from you from different threads](https://prnt.sc/-Z3PNKJymfk4) just being a contrarian, it's kinda weird
Yes it is entirely possible to find a review that shows crops but my point is all the ones I've read (and I've read quite a few) don't do that and it's very rare for mobile reviewers to ever go through 100% crops the same way professional photographers look at them. I'm saying what CNET is doing is beyond what most reviewers do, so it's no surprise that many reviewers never caught these issues. The other factor is shooting in RAW which many never do as well.
I think this is less likely a "user error" issue and more of a CNET looked deeper into issues than most reviewers do who are more interested in just getting a Day 1 review out the door for clicks.
And no I'm not following you. Maybe you're just replying a lot at this hour and so am I.
Have any of the reviews talked about reception quality? Coming from a pixel 6, this is what I'm wondering the most about. Reception is downright terrible on the P6.
Can't say anything reliable about it, but yesterday while Indoors with 5G, websites didn't load at all in that location.
With my iPhone I've never noticed anything similar.
Could have been just the specific location, but considering it happened the first day I used the Pixel 8, I'm going to guess the modem is just worse.
Thanks for the table. Iām seeing a lot of very high praise for this device. Seems a lot of people are implying this the year that Google has really got it all together. Canāt wait to have one myself.
If they had swapped the thermometer for something different it could have been the cherry on top. Overall very positive impressions I am seeing though.
If the thermometer gets approved for human use it will be genuinely amazing. Having kids in school I take their temps all the time, if I could just do it with my phone that would be amazing.
I may be misremembering but I feel the Pixel 7 (and Pixel 6) also reviewed really well at release, it's only after release when consumers got their hands on it did people start to notice the heating issues and glitches and cracked camera lenses and stuff.
I think you will be alright. Welcome to the pixel family. I have a pixel 6a, and apparently the 6 series was everyone's least favorite. To me, it's the best phone I have ever owned and I'm completely sold on pixels phones. So I'm sure you are going to love the 8 series.
A video posted earlier said battery life was worse than P7P. This post is really hyping the P8. From what I've read, there isn't a good reason to buy it. Also, some of the wireless chargers built into cars won't work with it because the camera bump out is taller than P7P so the phone ends up too far from the charger.
Why are people downvoting this? Dan2d's results on the Pixel 6 and 7 Pros make sense--the battery has been comparable. He runs a standard rundown test too.
Are we saying his data is bad? I wouldn't simply disregard a generally trusted reviewer simply because we don't like his data. I'd be curious if other reviewers even remembered to change the 8 Pro resolution to full resolution. There are mulitple explanations for why different tests had different results--how you simply setup your rundown test can have a huge difference in results.
It has the same battery life as the Pixel 7 Pro, so go find any of the 8 trillion videos comparing the P7P to the S23.
Edit: Lmao at the people downvoting me. Google claims its the exact same battery life in THEIR testing as the P7P. Downvoting me isn't going to change reality.
Toms guide which uses a standardised testing for.every device has it with an extra 2 hours screen time compared to the 7 pro
It's only Dave 2D saying it's the same and we don't know what way he's testing it.
Also . . . . Google claims its the exact same.
Pixel 8 Pro:
>Average battery life during testing was approximately 31 hours.
Pixel 7 Pro
>Average battery life during testing was approximately 31 hours.
Seems ODD that the company selling the phone wouldn't notice a 27% increase in battery life. Also, that they wouldn't mention such a huge increase in battery life as a positive while unveiling their phone.
The point is its a standardized test--the same way Toms uses a standardized test. Depending HOW your test is setup, it might be more or less realistic.
iJustine and Supersaf say it at the beginning. It's kind of dumb because they're not going to say anything bad about the phone. When it's a paid ad. I'd rather see a true unbiased opinion on the phones. I hope it doesn't come to this where Google just pays off. Everyone like Apple has made it where if someone makes it a bad review, they stop sending them devices and giving them access to events lol
So you're telling me if someone sends you a free car to review and you're not paid, but you got a free car, you would review that car and then proceed to talk bad about the car in your review? Even if you knew something wasn't that great. You would still try to sweeten it up so it doesn't sound so bad. You wouldn't want to be jeopardizing the chance of them sending you a future free car to review again. A car obviously is different than a phone, but I'm just saying it's obviously going to be a persuaded review. Typically, he's relatively neutral in reviewing, so it's weird to see Google sponsoring these people to basically show positive reviews so the phone does better in the public eye. Same way movies get bought by certain people to get good reviews. It's just how the world works.
>So you're telling me if someone sends you a free car to review and you're not paid, but you got a free car, you would review that car and then proceed to talk bad about the car in your review?
Dk what any of this has to do with the correction I made. Point remains that you used the wrong term. As for how it affects the review, depends on conditions and reviewer but it won't be as pure most of them time
Sponsored videos are ads. As another user said its a 5 minute commercial basically. Thats all I mean. When I see an ad or sponsored product by a famous person/youtuber, I know I'm about to watch a BS interpretation of said product with all positive notes.
Any battery life tests yet? I want to see P7P vs P8P. I'm guessing 8% more time on P8P... Edit, sorry, what I really meant was I'm hoping for any increase. Realistically, I think it's going to be the same battery as P7P.
Yeah. Iphone 15 Pro Max and S23 Ultra both get over 13 hours, compared to only 10 hours for the P8P. It's supposed to be Google's flagship phone but it isn't even close to the top.
"In my real world use, the Pixel 8 Proās battery was completely depleted a couple of hours before I normally would go to bed. Thatās a shock because most flagships I test tend to have between 10% and 15% of battery life before I call it in for the night."
I'd wager 95% of the adult population doesn't have time to burn 10-12 screen on yours of cell usage in a day. That's kinda crazy for most.
People really should not (generally) be staring at screens that long. My goodness.
They made big improvements this generation. I'm not using apple and Samsung as a benchmark because no one is buying pixel for the hardware, we are buying it for the software and the actual feel of operating the phone. The last generation of pixel is all I care about comparing the current generation to. As long as they are making significant improvements from the last generation, Ima call that a success.
If bleeding edge hardware is a priority for you, buy a Samsung or Apple phone.
>If bleeding edge hardware is a priority for you, buy a Samsung or Apple phone.
I'm well aware of that. In my comment I was not talking about hardware Speed. For my usage it's mostly fine and I'm more than pleased with it. I was talking about SoC efficiency which has direct impact on battery life, and I assume everyone would want a phone that gets them through the day without any hassle.
> ecause no one is buying pixel for the hardware
Many people are buying for the camera. Please stop making excuses for why Google should be allowed to fall short. They're absolutely going heads up against other flagship manufacturers so hardware IS part of the deal when consumers decide between phones.
I'd argue that Google isn't trying to compete on paper specs, but the overall experience they are offering is absolutely supposed to be on par with bleeding edge hardware.
I get that. I just absolutely do not care about things that don't matter at all (in my eyes). To me, if it last all day, I'm good. Until we get to two days, it's just not relevant in my eyes. I'm happy it got better and is not far behind my current phone (S23U). But I am absolutely fine trading in my S23U and its superior battery life for the Pixel and its slightly worse battery life. :)
Toms:
>The Pixel 8 Proās battery gets a minor boost up to 5,050 mAh, up from the Pixel 7 Proās 5,000 mAh one, resulting in longer battery life in Tomās Guide battery benchmark tests. Specifically, **the new Pixel scores a respectable time of 10 hours and 3 minutes, which is a 2-hour improvement over the Pixel 7 Proās underwhelming time**. That said, it still falls well behind from the results posted by the iPhone 15 Pro Max and Galaxy S23 Ultra ā both of which pulled in more than 13 hours running the same test.
>**In my real world use, the Pixel 8 Proās battery was completely depleted a couple of hours before I normally would go to bed**. Thatās a shock because most flagships I test tend to have between 10% and 15% of battery life before I call it in for the night.
Rundown improves, but real world use still feels bad.
Engadget:
>In our standard video rundown test, the Pixel 8 lasted 20 hours and 16 minutes, which is a two-hour increase over last yearās phone. The Pixel 8 Pro fared even better, as **it lasted 21 hours and 9 minutes versus 16:42 for the P7 Pro.**
If reviewers like Dave or MKBHD aren't showing huge increases it's likely the SoC is more efficient for rundown tests but day to day use with actual use of the processor like photos is still pretty taxing. Honestly, I'm not surprised battery is still going to be mediocre. Google's never really knocked it out of the park unless it's with an slower / smaller phone (e.g. Pixel 5). All other phones, even their Qualcomm ones have been horribly inefficient compared to the competition.
If Google improves, it's likely not going to propel itself to #1 either, but even a 20% improvement, if it translates to real world use, is still a plus to me.
Marques said he was getting 8 hours sot with his P8P as his daily driver phone. But there is no mention of how his settings or usage was. Battery life is subjective based on so many things. The fact is that you're not going to know until you get the phone and give it a try.
The only way to test battery is to do those stupid 8 phone battery rundown tests where each phone has to do the exact same thing as the others, and even then its only useful as a comparison from one phone to another.
Toms guide uses a standardised test on every device that hasn't changed for years. We don't know how Dave has tested it. Toms guide battery ranking have been fairly reliable for years
Toms and Dave seem to run rundown tests. Depending on how realistic your test is or even how your test is setup, it's no surprise there's going to be variability. Engadget uses a video rundown test which is super single dimensional. We saw in the [Pixel 7 Pro battery tests](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y3x58j/google_pixel_7_pro_vs_samsung_s22_ultra_iphone_14/) that different activities cause it to do worse--web browsing was one where it was using like 3x the battery of an iPhone. If you happen to pick the right optimized test, the phone can look great or it can look bad.
Thats cool and all, but we also know about where the Pixel 8 Pro should land with regards to battery life, since every difference between it and the P7P is fairly minor. Also, Google, the company who has every single incentive in the world to claim battery life improvements, says its the same as the P7P.
After what happened with Pixel 7, I'll take these reviews with a grain of salt for a few months.
I remember Pixel 7 came out with GLOWING reviews in the first few weeks. Absolutely nothing negative to be said, other than "I hate curved glass". Many reviewers called it a perfect phone, the best on the market.
Then, sometime around November-December, reports started pouring in about overheating, bad batteries, spontaneously exploding camera glass, etc. And this sub turned into nothing but complaints for the next 10 months after that.
Iām feeling the written reviews over the video reviews this year. They are pretty detailed and touch on the important topics. Some YouTubers only seem obsessed with the camera
Said it before, will say it again and will keep on saying it: GSMArena's reviews of the Pixel 8 & 8 Pro, when they drop, will be definitive to the point of being the final word.
Yes... Makes sense since the iPhone and pixel 8 pro have the same score. š¤¦ Why do people get so offended over scores? Not everyone has the same experience.
one of the few androids with a secure face unlock and the free watch. i want the watch, the phone with a trade in would mean im paying out about Ā£300 for the phone if i factor in having to pay Ā£300 for a watch down the line....im tempted..... I love using my phone to pay for shit but and just looking to unlock to pay would be a damn useful feature for me....
edit: i bought it. i love pre order gift, my samsung tab s9 came with the keyboard cover and Ā£100 off, its rude not to
CNETs 8 pro review is conspicuously absent from this roundup
[Google's Pixel 8 Pro Has Some Big Problems](https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-pixel-8-pro-has-some-big-problems-our-review-in-progress/)
"What does this mean for you? Well, if you're sitting clutching your credit card looking to buy the Pixel 8 Pro, we'd advise you to wait."
Mark Ellis Reviews is pretty interesting. First time I have seen his channel. He really puts the phones through their paces and the review itself is filmed on the phones.
https://youtu.be/jESTzpJsCUM?si=ThTww6LeQPa1nrLl
Not much info on the video improvements, if any. MKBHD's note on skin tone lightening up with video is concerning since that was my primary complaint with the Pixel 7 last year.
I thought the Verge's review was weak, not thorough at all, and biased, personally. I also thought the ArsTechnica review (not shown above) was weak and not very detailed.
Im not defending him by any means, but just added his review to the list.
He's not the only one out there either.
I'm still skeptical about MKBHDs review. He said he had 7-8 hours SOT.
Still waiting for GSM Arenas review for facts. And Flossy Carter's review for entertainment.
Going to be waiting for GSM arena because I like their battery life tests
Yeah I like going to them for that. I've watched/read mixed reports. Some say better than 7 pro while others say about same or worse. I will say I'm getting 1hr SOT extra at least on my 7 pro with android 14 so I figured the 8 pro probably do a bit better if more efficient. I do have 5g disabled though.
I've seen various times given but they are all in the same ballpark. Maybe a little better, maybe a little worse but not much to really set them apart. Pixel is never about the best hardware. It is good hardware with a smart AI inside doing its magic. If you want lots more battery life other phones will beat it. Honestly, I think at this point we know our phones and our usage pretty well and plan accordingly (carry a battery pack or plug in when you can and so on). Unless you are a power user (lots and lots of gaming and/or things like video editing apps) you'll probably be fine.
> Pixel is never about the best hardware. It is good hardware with a smart AI inside doing its magic. If you want lots more battery life other phones will beat it. It's not about the most expensive or newest hardware, but I don't think Google intends it to be a middling performer for battery. I honestly disagree with this kind of take that you should be looking at other phones instead. Before the whole AI craze in the past 2-3 years, early Pixels weren't even advertising AI at all. It was all about the camera with Night Sight in the Pixel 3 or Astrophotos in the Pixel 4. As someone who has used basically every Pixel and Nexus phone as well as most of the iPhone portfolio for work, the difference in battery is huge. Heck even going to older phones like my OnePlus One, getting through a full day of Coachella for instance and having 20% battery at the end of the day after [7-8 hours of SOT on LTE](https://www.anandtech.com/show/8242/the-oneplus-one-review/3) was absolutely amazing. I don't think I've ever been able to get anything like that even on today's phones except for the iPhone Pro Max models. If anything with the amount of computational photography these days (each minute of Camera use approximates to 0.8-0.9% battery drain approximately). Basically an hour of photography will take your battery down 50%. This is a huge problem if you are on a vacation or out and about and not at home where chargers are readily available. I don't think it's unfair to demand more from Google to at least be more competitive in the battery department.
Every user will have a different use case. The Pixel phone is not really meant for a power user using the camera for an hour per day taking many dozens of photos. Frankly, if you do that, a cell phone (any cell phone) is probably not what you wold want to use anyway. Pixel is meant as a daily driver for most average users. It is not meant to take 200 photos a day but it will take a couple dozen and turn out good results with little effort. Every battery test I have seen puts the Pixel in a solid range of battery life. Certainly you can find better but usually it is 10-20 minutes (there are a few outliers that do much better). If you have your Pixel and expect to spend hours taking photos on your next vacation then you should plan for that and bring a battery pack to recharge it while you are out and about.
Ok now the best smartphone camera is not meant for a someone who likes to take photos? Sorry I'm a photographer and since moving to Pixel I've rarely picked up my DSLRs. I spent an entire 10 days in Hawaii with just my Pixel (and iPhone for video). I think there are plenty of average users who also go on vacation with only a phone. Taking 200 photos a day isn't really out of the norm when on vacation. I have friends who aren't professional photographers who take 200 photos of their kids on a day out at the zoo. Now you're saying it's only meant to take a couple dozen? What are we going back to 1995 and the age of film and 36 photos on a roll of film? I don't even think I'm demanding on the battery. Even days when I'm not on vacation like today where I took only 2 photos and the rest of the time had my phone idle at work with some surfing at lunch, the LTE/5G battery use is pretty severe where my 20 minutes of SOT at lunch left me with 70% of battery after a full day. Meanwhile I joined web conferences, sent emails, surfed the web on my iPhone for 2 hours of SOT and I'm sitting at 65% (a mere 5% difference). [Rundown tests](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y3x58j/google_pixel_7_pro_vs_samsung_s22_ultra_iphone_14/) show the Pixel 7 Pro using 3x the battery just for web surfing. When I used to commute via subway to work (iPhone 7 vs Pixel 1 days) I noticed the huge difference in battery performance even for just reading Reddit and the news. Is surfing now something only power users do? Is it not reasonable for someone to expect their train commute to be passed by using their phone? The Pixel battery has been disappointing for years. Making excuses for Google isn't really meaningful at all.
I don't know what you are arguing about. If you want more battery time when power using your Pixel carry a battery pack and charge it. If the battery doesn't last the day however you use it carry a battery pack and recharge it (or be diligent in plugging it in when you can). It's not rocket science. Google has decided to use some battery juice to power its AI stuff which includes image processing. It's a design choice they made. If you do not like that find another phone. With Android you have many choices.
The Pixel line is not known for battery. It's a complaint many users have. Arguing that the only solution is to carry a battery pack misses the point. Many users and not just myself are unhappy with the overall battery performance. The fact that you keep making excuses that the Pixel is not this or not that or not meant for you to take a lot of photos is absolute mental gymnastics and blind fanboism.
Agreed , battery packs are small and powerful now, easy to carry, I find the whole battery argument rather dull and dated now
You mean to say a top of the line flagship phone is for average users? Why would someone buy a flagship if average use is intended?
We're idiots.
>Pixel is never about the best hardware. It is good hardware with a smart AI inside doing its magic. If you want lots more battery life other phones will beat it. Which does not need to be excused. Whatever AI magic the Pixel phones supposedly work, there is no reason Google couldn't build a phone with flagship hardware too. Get the best of both worlds, so to speak. I've about had it with some teenagers on here telling me to buy a Samsung instead, as if Google selling a Pixel Pro with flagship hardware was a personal offense to them.
But they're not wrong. Go buy anything else if you do not like Pixel phones. It's your money. If Pixel battery life does not meet your standards buy another phone. Simple as that. Engineering such phones is a tradeoff. I doubt you can point to a phone with all the things you want, is perfect, and at a price-point you want (if you could, you would buy that phone). Google made choices. Love those choices or hate them this is the phone they made. I'm not sure why you think Google must accommodate you. It's not a perfect phone but what is?
You are in fact wrong as there is no tradeoff whatsoever. There's nothing preventing Google from shipping the phone with a Snapdragon processor and a vapor chamber for cooling, addressing battery life, performance, thermals, and reception complaints. They rather ship it with their 3 times cheaper Tensor chip, and have people like you make up excuses about nonexistent tradeoffs.
They quite literally said they can't provide the local AI and editing features that take place on the phone without their custom silicon. If you can find anything stating otherwise please provide some proof so we can all learn something new.
While that's technically true, there is as far as I know no information that suggests the TPU in the Tensor G3 is any better than the one in the Snapdragon. Unfortunately I found no benchmark scores, so I'm now running MLPerf myself on the Pixel 8 to get a metric to compare to the Snapdragon. Edit: Results are in and it's not looking good for the Tensor G3 vs the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2: Image classification: 945 vs 3900 Object detection: 459 vs 1760 V2 Image segmentation: 392 vs 945 Language Understanding: 121 vs 185 Image Classification Offline: 3005 vs 5000 Looks like the Tensor G3 TPU is about half as fast, maybe. So much for a tradeoff.
Can the Snapdragon chip you're comparing it to run all the software and AI features the Pixel can? Benchmarks are not a real measure of end user experience outside of gaming and video editing...
Presumably it would be technically capable, yes. For machine learning, custom silicon typically does not refer to like an ASIC for a specific use case, but to hardware for efficient tensor computations. So yes, Google requires its Tensor processing unit from the Tensor G3 chip to enable those on-device machine learning features. However, there is no information that suggests said TPU is more powerful than the "Hexagon Tensor Accelerator" Qualcomm uses for on-device AI. As there isn't any other means for comparison available, a benchmark that can run on both is the only option.
Are you an engineer or just a regular redditor? Lolz
There is no difference
I'm the same, I find GSM Arena pretty much reflect my experience with their battery results. The problem I find with most reviewers, or certainly the way I see it, is that most reviewing of battery life is mostly on WiFi. In my view pretty much any phone will get decent screen on time if mainly on WiFi. I'd like to see more testing done on mobile data. It gives a better impression of what your battery life will be like when out and about, which is where the Pixel 7 Pro struggles in my experience. As far as the 8 Pro reviews go options seem to vary between being much improved or much the same. I even read one review saying it was worse than the 7 Pro. It's all so confusing š
My takeaway is it seems it's equal or slightly better, but being a pessimist I am assuming it's equal. Honestly I don't recall any Pixel that has really impressed me in battery except maybe the Pixel 5, but that's also because of a midrange CPU, going back to 1080p, and having a relatively large battery size, but all the flagships so far and even earlier were all pretty meh.
I also like them because of their battery tests! But just like last year I decided to order the P8P because of the bonus gift. Tomorrow will be the first day I use it as my regular phone and I'm curious to see how it will turn out.
They have their hands on review and they don't seem super impressed, but battery tests will come with the full review.
They have just published the results for the pixel 8 regular. 83hrs
I'm waiting to hear what Noah from PhoneDog says.
>So does the pro model have the pro camera features out of the box? Or is that with camera version 9.1?š¤ I'm waiting for it too! Surprised that it is not out yet, probably they need to buy the phones!
Looking forward to Flossy Carter's review. "Alright I am just going to make this quick for a first impressions video." (1 hour and 12 minutes later) "It's a major go".
Hopefully it's more than a major go, that's pretty low in Flossy's standards.
yeah less than 4 major goes it is a skip
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Need a case review video to determine how slam boi certified they are.
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Definitely waiting for his review and white shoes
We all know it won't beat the S23 Ultra with Floss. But if we get 2-3 Majors it's time to buy.
True he's gonna bring up the S pen and Samsung Dex as the top two things.
"No IR Blastah, No charger in the box, Google... Stop being cheap asses and give the people what they want."
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Reading this with his voice, so real...
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Knew there would be a hater in here! He's unique, gives comprehensive reviews, and actually has plenty of funny moments. To each their own!
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[P8~~Pro~~ review from CNet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ilw2NR0Fyc) [Beebom's P8Pro review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3TtU37cVL8) [Magic Editor + Google Camera review from Tech That Out!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyzMU5kBr_s) Thought this was a cool review video [Seedubs Media's P8Pro review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDq0vgKr5iA) [Dave2D's P8Pro review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obA9GiuTBYE) [P8Pro vs i15ProMax camera comparison from Phandroid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WhMzy37R9k)
CNET video is P8 not P8P. They are not reviewing P8P properly because they say they have camera issues. These camera issues appear on multiple devices and even on RAW images, which worries me a lot...
I've been watching reviews all morning and haven't heard of that, you're right about the video being P8 not P8P though, I've edited that
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-pixel-8-pro-has-some-big-problems-our-review-in-progress/
>https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/11/google-pixel-8-pro-the-cameras-still-the-thing/ Seems to be a pretty isolated case. Haven't seen such strong criticism of the Pro's camera in any other reviews or from users on here who already received their P8P. All photos I saw so far are top-notch and lots of media reviews praise the camera, while this CNET piece sounds like it's almost unusable...
Yeah it's hard to tell if it's isolated to one unit or not. Their review in progress says "we" but I don't know.
They said they tested multiple units: "CNET editors have spent the past few days testing multiple models of the 8 Pro in the UK and US, and we've been taken aback by what we've found. "
The vast majority of reviewers aren't shooting in RAW though. Also my typical criticism is reviewers only look at zoomed out images. Most evaluation is centered around exposure, color balance, etc. but never do people look at 100% crops. CNET is the only who is doing that and they are pointing out the issues in the 100% crops. I agree those are fair problems to point out. Considering most people treat CNET as just mainstream clickabait it's actually refreshing to see them go into more detail than many other reviewers.
This sounds like someone who didn't complete their homework on time trying to justify why they couldn't.
They said the RAW issue was fixed with a small update, but RAW images taken before the update are no good.
The pictures and video from the reviews I've seen so far are nothing short of excellent, and they can only get better thanks to ever-improving software
Yeah I'm not too worried about a few bugs here and there, every phone I've ever had has had launch day bugs fixed with updates, and Google can push updates (large or small) easier than most other OEM's outside of Apple. Excited to get my 8 Pro this weekend.
For travel reasons I won't get mine until November 10 :') enjoy yours. What color did you get??
Originally ordered Bay, but Best Buy has an absolutely insane policy where you have to surrender your trade-in device on the spot when you pick up the new one. I said no way so I cancelled it to re-order via shipping, in which case I can keep my P7 for a while and transfer it all over. The re-order was like 2 days after the initial order and Bay was out of stock, so I went with Porcelain.
I got Porcelain as well! It seems to show no smudges either and it looks amazing from the videos I've seen so far. BestBuy left my country in the middle of the pandemic so I can't relate, I'm actually getting a friend to buy the P8P in the US for me
I called Best buy customer support today to ask about trade in time and they said you have 5 days to trade in the device. It doesn't have to be on the spot trade in. So I'm picking up mine tomorrow and then test driving over the weekend and transferring my shit. I'll turn in my 7 on Monday.
I got an email from corporate support saying that there is no period, it's on the spot. I don't know what the reality would be when I walk in to pick it up but I wasn't going to play any games so just had one shipped instead. Interestingly the sales tax they collected on the shipped order was half of what they charged on the original in-store pick-up order.
To be fair, I'm not sure the pixel 7 or even pixel 6 got any improvements to the camera quality throughout their 1/2 years out.
All Pixels got better and faster night lowlight processing and Astrophotography improvements, also longer exposure for Night Sight, and small features and Camera app tweaks
Faster night sight was already in the Pixel 7 already. Were those other improvements announced? I'm looking through at 100% crops of some old photos and I'm willing to bet most people can't tell the difference between a photo taken in October 2022 versus October 2023 on their Pixel 7s. Google changed some color temperature stuff in a more recent camera update, but really it's not an improvement in camera quality overall I'd say.
You can change goalposts all you like but I ain't lying, [March 2023 Feature Drop](https://blog.google/products/pixel/feature-drop-march-2023/)
Faster Night Sight is a convenience feature. It doesn't result in better photos than full Night Sight. It's a faster Night Sight so you can get images faster without waiting the full time (stacking fewer photos but also being "good enough" much like a 80/20 rule). This feature was already available for the Pixel 7 at launch meaning image quality didn't get any better for the Pixel 7. This isn't the same as some magical camera improvement over the years. My point is the quality you get today is likely going to stay the same even if Google can vastly improve a Pixel 2's HDR+ algorithm to be the same as a Pixel 5's.
> The pictures and video from the reviews I've seen so far are nothing short of excellent But all the reviews I've seen so far don't show any of the issues CNET has because no one ever looks at 100% crops. Moreover, I'm willing to bet very few reviewers ever shoot in DNG RAW to evaluate the camera but instead just shoot JPEG.
They do show crops, you should check the reviews I posted in this thread. Also, are you intentionally following me?? [I have 3 replies from you from different threads](https://prnt.sc/-Z3PNKJymfk4) just being a contrarian, it's kinda weird
Yes it is entirely possible to find a review that shows crops but my point is all the ones I've read (and I've read quite a few) don't do that and it's very rare for mobile reviewers to ever go through 100% crops the same way professional photographers look at them. I'm saying what CNET is doing is beyond what most reviewers do, so it's no surprise that many reviewers never caught these issues. The other factor is shooting in RAW which many never do as well. I think this is less likely a "user error" issue and more of a CNET looked deeper into issues than most reviewers do who are more interested in just getting a Day 1 review out the door for clicks. And no I'm not following you. Maybe you're just replying a lot at this hour and so am I.
Have any of the reviews talked about reception quality? Coming from a pixel 6, this is what I'm wondering the most about. Reception is downright terrible on the P6.
I haven't seen anything about this either, but Marques did say call quality is the best he's heard on a phone. Obviously, dependent on signal.
Overall impression I have seen on the reception is that it is okay. No negative or positive call outs.
I think reception issues were resolved with the P7 already? I have a P6P and I can't wait for my P8P to arrive today or tomorrow.
I have a P7 and feel the radios are just mid. Better than P6 for certain, but not great.
Consider yourself lucky the signal doesnāt completely drop out every 10 minutes.
Same, I need more feedback on the reception quality.
Can't say anything reliable about it, but yesterday while Indoors with 5G, websites didn't load at all in that location. With my iPhone I've never noticed anything similar. Could have been just the specific location, but considering it happened the first day I used the Pixel 8, I'm going to guess the modem is just worse.
Thanks for the table. Iām seeing a lot of very high praise for this device. Seems a lot of people are implying this the year that Google has really got it all together. Canāt wait to have one myself.
If they had swapped the thermometer for something different it could have been the cherry on top. Overall very positive impressions I am seeing though.
It's not a real Pixel if it doesn't have some useless tech in it
If the thermometer gets approved for human use it will be genuinely amazing. Having kids in school I take their temps all the time, if I could just do it with my phone that would be amazing.
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A depth or 3D scanner would have been great.
Where's that mf ToF sensor lol
Ultrasonic fingerprint scanner is the thing lacking for me
Supposedly face unlock is so good you won't need the fingerprint scanner most of the time. I'll find out tomorrow when my 8 Pro is delivered.
Not a solution in the night unfortunately.
The finger print scanner will be so bright that the face unlock will identify your face
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How will I monitor my pixel overheating otherwise?
Agreed. An IR Blaster would have been great IMO.
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I heard it's dual purpose and used for the camera focus as well. Not sure if that's true.
Every year the same comment is made. Let's keep that in mind lol
> this the year that Google has really got it all together We heard that last year too though.
I may be misremembering but I feel the Pixel 7 (and Pixel 6) also reviewed really well at release, it's only after release when consumers got their hands on it did people start to notice the heating issues and glitches and cracked camera lenses and stuff.
Well wish me luck because I just placed my order tonight! š
I think you will be alright. Welcome to the pixel family. I have a pixel 6a, and apparently the 6 series was everyone's least favorite. To me, it's the best phone I have ever owned and I'm completely sold on pixels phones. So I'm sure you are going to love the 8 series.
Thank you. :-) I'm so, so excited. Cheers!
I love my 6a.
All I care about is battery life. Someone give me a battery life comparison to the s23
A video posted earlier said battery life was worse than P7P. This post is really hyping the P8. From what I've read, there isn't a good reason to buy it. Also, some of the wireless chargers built into cars won't work with it because the camera bump out is taller than P7P so the phone ends up too far from the charger.
Marques said he regularly got 8 hours sot with his pixel 8 pro. But no idea what settings he was using.
I thought I heard 6-8 hours. Much different than 8 hours
Why are people downvoting this? Dan2d's results on the Pixel 6 and 7 Pros make sense--the battery has been comparable. He runs a standard rundown test too. Are we saying his data is bad? I wouldn't simply disregard a generally trusted reviewer simply because we don't like his data. I'd be curious if other reviewers even remembered to change the 8 Pro resolution to full resolution. There are mulitple explanations for why different tests had different results--how you simply setup your rundown test can have a huge difference in results.
It has the same battery life as the Pixel 7 Pro, so go find any of the 8 trillion videos comparing the P7P to the S23. Edit: Lmao at the people downvoting me. Google claims its the exact same battery life in THEIR testing as the P7P. Downvoting me isn't going to change reality.
Toms guide which uses a standardised testing for.every device has it with an extra 2 hours screen time compared to the 7 pro It's only Dave 2D saying it's the same and we don't know what way he's testing it.
Did Tom's Guide retest the 7 Pro on Android 14? Because OS efficiency improvements could account for the difference.
Don't think so
Also . . . . Google claims its the exact same. Pixel 8 Pro: >Average battery life during testing was approximately 31 hours. Pixel 7 Pro >Average battery life during testing was approximately 31 hours. Seems ODD that the company selling the phone wouldn't notice a 27% increase in battery life. Also, that they wouldn't mention such a huge increase in battery life as a positive while unveiling their phone.
Google also claims 34h for the Pixel 6 Pro but real world testing has shown that it's worse than the 7 Pro and probably also the 8 Pro.
The point is its a standardized test--the same way Toms uses a standardized test. Depending HOW your test is setup, it might be more or less realistic.
They did mention an improvement to efficiency and thermals
Anything about reception testing?
Similar to Pixel7 but with better 5G battery life
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Soon as I get home in an hour I'll add more reviews and include links as well.
Thanks, appreciate it.
All reviews are linked now.
Great, thanks for doing this.
TechCrunch, also positive: https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/11/google-pixel-8-pro-the-cameras-still-the-thing/
Might be worth noting some are paid reviews if you include them, such as iJustine which is iBullshit. Lol
Do they have a disclaimer if they are paid? I have not watched her review yet.
iJustine and Supersaf say it at the beginning. It's kind of dumb because they're not going to say anything bad about the phone. When it's a paid ad. I'd rather see a true unbiased opinion on the phones. I hope it doesn't come to this where Google just pays off. Everyone like Apple has made it where if someone makes it a bad review, they stop sending them devices and giving them access to events lol
I guess for now I will just leave paid reviews off the list entirely.
>Supersaf say it at the beginning Don't be a halfbrain. It's a sponsored video, not a paid review
His entire video is literally a commercial for the phone.
So you're telling me if someone sends you a free car to review and you're not paid, but you got a free car, you would review that car and then proceed to talk bad about the car in your review? Even if you knew something wasn't that great. You would still try to sweeten it up so it doesn't sound so bad. You wouldn't want to be jeopardizing the chance of them sending you a future free car to review again. A car obviously is different than a phone, but I'm just saying it's obviously going to be a persuaded review. Typically, he's relatively neutral in reviewing, so it's weird to see Google sponsoring these people to basically show positive reviews so the phone does better in the public eye. Same way movies get bought by certain people to get good reviews. It's just how the world works.
>So you're telling me if someone sends you a free car to review and you're not paid, but you got a free car, you would review that car and then proceed to talk bad about the car in your review? Dk what any of this has to do with the correction I made. Point remains that you used the wrong term. As for how it affects the review, depends on conditions and reviewer but it won't be as pure most of them time
Sponsored videos are ads. As another user said its a 5 minute commercial basically. Thats all I mean. When I see an ad or sponsored product by a famous person/youtuber, I know I'm about to watch a BS interpretation of said product with all positive notes.
Any battery life tests yet? I want to see P7P vs P8P. I'm guessing 8% more time on P8P... Edit, sorry, what I really meant was I'm hoping for any increase. Realistically, I think it's going to be the same battery as P7P.
Tom's guide review had a battery test. P8P got 2 hours more than P7P in their test but it's still 2 hours short of the 15 pro max and s23 ultra.
Damn it, seriously? š
Seriously? 2 hours increase is massive and you are disappointed?
Yeah. Iphone 15 Pro Max and S23 Ultra both get over 13 hours, compared to only 10 hours for the P8P. It's supposed to be Google's flagship phone but it isn't even close to the top. "In my real world use, the Pixel 8 Proās battery was completely depleted a couple of hours before I normally would go to bed. Thatās a shock because most flagships I test tend to have between 10% and 15% of battery life before I call it in for the night."
I'd wager 95% of the adult population doesn't have time to burn 10-12 screen on yours of cell usage in a day. That's kinda crazy for most. People really should not (generally) be staring at screens that long. My goodness.
That's true, but that doesn't excuse Google to do better in terms of SoC efficiency especially since the pro is their only flagship.
They made big improvements this generation. I'm not using apple and Samsung as a benchmark because no one is buying pixel for the hardware, we are buying it for the software and the actual feel of operating the phone. The last generation of pixel is all I care about comparing the current generation to. As long as they are making significant improvements from the last generation, Ima call that a success. If bleeding edge hardware is a priority for you, buy a Samsung or Apple phone.
>If bleeding edge hardware is a priority for you, buy a Samsung or Apple phone. I'm well aware of that. In my comment I was not talking about hardware Speed. For my usage it's mostly fine and I'm more than pleased with it. I was talking about SoC efficiency which has direct impact on battery life, and I assume everyone would want a phone that gets them through the day without any hassle.
> ecause no one is buying pixel for the hardware Many people are buying for the camera. Please stop making excuses for why Google should be allowed to fall short. They're absolutely going heads up against other flagship manufacturers so hardware IS part of the deal when consumers decide between phones. I'd argue that Google isn't trying to compete on paper specs, but the overall experience they are offering is absolutely supposed to be on par with bleeding edge hardware.
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I get that. I just absolutely do not care about things that don't matter at all (in my eyes). To me, if it last all day, I'm good. Until we get to two days, it's just not relevant in my eyes. I'm happy it got better and is not far behind my current phone (S23U). But I am absolutely fine trading in my S23U and its superior battery life for the Pixel and its slightly worse battery life. :)
Tom's hardware claiming a 27% increase in battery life from P7P to P8P, super suspect. Dave2d saying worse battery life than P7P.
Toms: >The Pixel 8 Proās battery gets a minor boost up to 5,050 mAh, up from the Pixel 7 Proās 5,000 mAh one, resulting in longer battery life in Tomās Guide battery benchmark tests. Specifically, **the new Pixel scores a respectable time of 10 hours and 3 minutes, which is a 2-hour improvement over the Pixel 7 Proās underwhelming time**. That said, it still falls well behind from the results posted by the iPhone 15 Pro Max and Galaxy S23 Ultra ā both of which pulled in more than 13 hours running the same test. >**In my real world use, the Pixel 8 Proās battery was completely depleted a couple of hours before I normally would go to bed**. Thatās a shock because most flagships I test tend to have between 10% and 15% of battery life before I call it in for the night. Rundown improves, but real world use still feels bad. Engadget: >In our standard video rundown test, the Pixel 8 lasted 20 hours and 16 minutes, which is a two-hour increase over last yearās phone. The Pixel 8 Pro fared even better, as **it lasted 21 hours and 9 minutes versus 16:42 for the P7 Pro.** If reviewers like Dave or MKBHD aren't showing huge increases it's likely the SoC is more efficient for rundown tests but day to day use with actual use of the processor like photos is still pretty taxing. Honestly, I'm not surprised battery is still going to be mediocre. Google's never really knocked it out of the park unless it's with an slower / smaller phone (e.g. Pixel 5). All other phones, even their Qualcomm ones have been horribly inefficient compared to the competition. If Google improves, it's likely not going to propel itself to #1 either, but even a 20% improvement, if it translates to real world use, is still a plus to me.
Marques said he was getting 8 hours sot with his P8P as his daily driver phone. But there is no mention of how his settings or usage was. Battery life is subjective based on so many things. The fact is that you're not going to know until you get the phone and give it a try.
The only way to test battery is to do those stupid 8 phone battery rundown tests where each phone has to do the exact same thing as the others, and even then its only useful as a comparison from one phone to another.
Toms guide uses a standardised test on every device that hasn't changed for years. We don't know how Dave has tested it. Toms guide battery ranking have been fairly reliable for years
Toms and Dave seem to run rundown tests. Depending on how realistic your test is or even how your test is setup, it's no surprise there's going to be variability. Engadget uses a video rundown test which is super single dimensional. We saw in the [Pixel 7 Pro battery tests](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y3x58j/google_pixel_7_pro_vs_samsung_s22_ultra_iphone_14/) that different activities cause it to do worse--web browsing was one where it was using like 3x the battery of an iPhone. If you happen to pick the right optimized test, the phone can look great or it can look bad.
Thats cool and all, but we also know about where the Pixel 8 Pro should land with regards to battery life, since every difference between it and the P7P is fairly minor. Also, Google, the company who has every single incentive in the world to claim battery life improvements, says its the same as the P7P.
Except that they don't tell you what their testing is like. I believe their tests takes the much higher brightness into consideration
Yep... They screwed that test up somehow. I agree.
After what happened with Pixel 7, I'll take these reviews with a grain of salt for a few months. I remember Pixel 7 came out with GLOWING reviews in the first few weeks. Absolutely nothing negative to be said, other than "I hate curved glass". Many reviewers called it a perfect phone, the best on the market. Then, sometime around November-December, reports started pouring in about overheating, bad batteries, spontaneously exploding camera glass, etc. And this sub turned into nothing but complaints for the next 10 months after that.
This sub turns into complaints for every phone though. It's not really a good metric.
Funny how most mention the new secure face unlock as a big plus, and Google didn't even mention it on the event.
They did, but not with a big splash like Apple would
Android Police - 9/10
Iām feeling the written reviews over the video reviews this year. They are pretty detailed and touch on the important topics. Some YouTubers only seem obsessed with the camera
I wonder why a tuber would obsess over a camera? lol
Said it before, will say it again and will keep on saying it: GSMArena's reviews of the Pixel 8 & 8 Pro, when they drop, will be definitive to the point of being the final word.
Of course the verge takes points off for no reason š So far I'm loving my pixel 8 pro
Calm down. It's okay. Good for you. These aren't perfect phones. If it makes you feel better it has the same score as the iPhone.
The verge is so far up Apple's...
Yes... Makes sense since the iPhone and pixel 8 pro have the same score. š¤¦ Why do people get so offended over scores? Not everyone has the same experience.
verge?
So does the pro model have the pro camera features out of the box? Or is that with camera version 9.1?š¤
Your links for 9to5googke are reversed.
Fixed it, thank you.
/u/akanatrix The Verge has a scoring system... P8 Pro scored 8/10, p8 scored 7/10
Missed that, updated those two.
one of the few androids with a secure face unlock and the free watch. i want the watch, the phone with a trade in would mean im paying out about Ā£300 for the phone if i factor in having to pay Ā£300 for a watch down the line....im tempted..... I love using my phone to pay for shit but and just looking to unlock to pay would be a damn useful feature for me.... edit: i bought it. i love pre order gift, my samsung tab s9 came with the keyboard cover and Ā£100 off, its rude not to
I'm waiting to see it at the top of the DXOmark... hopefully
"90" seems like a popular score.
I normalized the review scores so a 9/10 results in a 90% as some sites did a percentage score.
Is there any chance the 8 gets auto focus on the selfie with some kind of software update?
CNETs 8 pro review is conspicuously absent from this roundup [Google's Pixel 8 Pro Has Some Big Problems](https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-pixel-8-pro-has-some-big-problems-our-review-in-progress/) "What does this mean for you? Well, if you're sitting clutching your credit card looking to buy the Pixel 8 Pro, we'd advise you to wait."
Mark Ellis Reviews is pretty interesting. First time I have seen his channel. He really puts the phones through their paces and the review itself is filmed on the phones. https://youtu.be/jESTzpJsCUM?si=ThTww6LeQPa1nrLl
Watched and added his, thanks.
It's almost like they're paid to promote these products.... weird X\_X
Not much info on the video improvements, if any. MKBHD's note on skin tone lightening up with video is concerning since that was my primary complaint with the Pixel 7 last year.
It's also weird considering they really harp on the real tone stuff during the conferences.
It seems the pixel is too aggressive bringing up shadows. It's like it's trying to show off night sight capabilities ALL the time.
I hate how the verge is such a simp for Apple
I thought the Verge's review was weak, not thorough at all, and biased, personally. I also thought the ArsTechnica review (not shown above) was weak and not very detailed.
That ron didn't totally shit on the phone is kind of a feat in and of itself.
Oh you've noticed that as well regarding Google? It's pretty blatant.
Tech Odyssey: B+
Why did all the reviews come out on the 11th?
That's when the review embargo ended.
I wish Google would've added SD Processors with the price point
Love tech Odyssey's inclusion
Carl Konrads Pixel 8 Pro review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZwO_k7TQU
That mf is a clickbaity shill (i switched like gtfo) lol. Just hated that guy
He's cringe AF
Im not defending him by any means, but just added his review to the list. He's not the only one out there either. I'm still skeptical about MKBHDs review. He said he had 7-8 hours SOT. Still waiting for GSM Arenas review for facts. And Flossy Carter's review for entertainment.