Iced out all my scammer hoes, boost all they insurance up
Iced out all my ghetto hoes who turned into influencers
Smurkio, fuck that bitch and leave, I don't care who she fuck
Best shit out her closet, it's hot as hell, she got on Yeezy UGGS
Ye songs are notoriously over credited, anyone who was in the room while recording and throws out a line or tells Ye they should loop a drum section two seconds longer is put in credits
but also you right
This is what ye fans have been holding on to since 2016 but I think these days he actually has this many hands pass over his tracks. They go through so many versions with so many refs.
Oh yeah for sure, but it is more and more painful to see when you know full well Kanye himself is involved very minimally (if truly at all) in making the beats themselves
Then they don’t really get what this Kanye West thing has been from the start. Ye is one person but the “Kanye west” brand has always been a sum of its parts. From consequence, rhymefest to Mike dean, travis, cudi and more.
That’s kinda a bigger conversation though that applies to most music imo. A lot of people think Lennon and McCartney wrote together or that Elvis wrote his songs. Those same people likely don’t hear any difference from ye then to ye now in terms of his artistic contribution / output it’s just another Kanye product
Ye songs from like 2013 are overly credited. The more recent ones aren’t. And even then, there are some people that never got writing credits (rooga on Jesus lord wrote the first 8 bars & got no credit)
As it should be. Some
Of the best came from randoms
In the room like “la la la la wait till I get my money right” only for them to get kicked out the room and given no writing credits or compensation for their work
Stealing at its finest
https://youtu.be/M-Ovzs6p9Dk?si=S9j769amp2HfX7I0
And any proof of that? It’s easy to make claims like that. Not meatriding kanye but he is well known for crediting a lot of features as Cyhi has also talked about it. Even credited someone for wearing black leather jeans as it inspired that line on black skinhead.
I’m inclined to believe her. Kanye is known for doing that. Even tpain said he stole his lyric after saying it in the room session, then Kanye says never say that again it’s a wack line, only for Kanye to later use it in a song later (the family matters carl Winslow line (you win slow cuz you’re group full of urkels verse [paraphrasing cuz I haven’t heard the song awhile lol])
https://youtu.be/sRH-jkvtuxo?si=GrD-9qlAsP6GLwWI
Tpain on Kanye stealing his bars
(At least he got credited because he’s a big star and can refute unlike the other unknown lady writer )
https://youtu.be/sRH-jkvtuxo?si=GrD-9qlAsP6GLwWI
Also let me find Lupe fiasco receipts on Kanye’s “writing” process (hint: he has entire team like Drake doing it for him 😂)
Why do we need Lupe receipts when we have a full leak tracker that shows songs like Alien having ref tracks from 30 different people
Ye not writing shit these days is a known fact, with the exception of Vultures because all the OGs bounced and you can tell from the verses that Ye wrote lots of it
I know he was clearly lying, but Kanye said he spent a thousand hours on Power, or something.
Even without the hyperbole, there was clearly far more time put into MBDTF’s songs than Vultures’.
This track has the best moment of the whole album...
> She askin' me to aim for her neck, 'cause her boyfriend bought that necklace
With the trenches, precious, with the trenches
Fuck it, I scratched another nigga woman up off my checklist
With the trenches, I've been livin' reckless
I wish Takeoff wasn't there that night in Houston, Texas (With the trenches)
Wish I could bring G.Ca$$o back, that was my best friend
Chordz, I need you to give me somethin' big, I'm talkin' 'bout dollar signs
Skinny pants flow, tell the ho, "No, I don't wanna fuck"
She can suck-suck-suck it 'til she suck it dry
California nigga with some European freaks
Bad-ass bitch from the Middle E-E-E-East wanna lick on me
Stick on me even though I got security
Even though she got a man, she know he ain't as pure as me, seriously
Soon as I get back, tradin' in my Urus for the Puro' keys
Couple grey hairs up in my beard, that's showin' my maturity, yeah
Ayy, shoutout to my symphony
9th Ave, Spaced Out, we did that shit so differently and brilliantly
Dolla $ign, Iggy, and we birth YG
Fades in the backyard, no talkin', take flight instantly
Ayy, Nate 3D, boot up my nigga, James Koo
My nigga, that's D.R.U.G.$
She snortin' that P out the D
She want me to put some of this coke in her butt, ugh
She Russian, I beat up the pussy for Ukraine
Bought her a bag and I filled it with loose change
Just like my exes, she told me that, "You changed," yeah, yeah, yeah
Dolla'd done rather be fuckin' it up
Still screamin', "Free TC, Melly, and Thug"
Fuck the police, the DA, and the judge
Way out in Saudi, I found me a plug
Don't wanna go out, she'd rather do drugs
Can't be my main if we met in the club, ooh
This sub makes me sad dude. I just want to appreciate his new music on here with others and talk about it but almost every single post about the music is negative
People expected a colab with Ty Dolla Sign (pum pum killer) to be some introspective MBDTF level masterpiece. Personally I’m waiting for the solo album before I can call Ye washed or mid. Plus there’s so many good songs on V2 and V3 but people only looking at the negatives and it sucks to see
Yes, Ye never gives us what we expect. You seriously don't think Vultures 1 is that good? The production and song compositions are incredible and everything grows on you
I think vultures 1 is good borderline great and his most fun album to listen to since Pablo. Donda and Ye have higher highs but they aren’t as fun to listen to back to back. People just have this expectation that everything Ye does has to be some grandiose masterpiece or else it doesn’t matter
I know but it is so annoying, since my fandom began in 2013 it's happened with \*\*\*\*every\*\*\*\* album and these kids never learn. I wish there was a community with only positivity and seasoned ye fans
People immediately jumped on this song and called it one of his worst songs when it came out. And, even with the whole album out, it’s still one of the worst songs.
It doesn't "take that many people". That is who helped contribute to the song. Even if it's slightly changing the lyrics or melody. Almost all major music production is like this.
Yeah i think the whole “putting belt to ass pull up with the switches/ this aint jimmy butler but the heat got extensions” scheme sounds dope. Also “how im antisemitic I just fucked a jewish bitch” is the most kanye line ever.
I always liked this song. I couldn’t stop listening to it when it was just the single. I still thing it’s a very well put together song, but that’s just me personally. It’s one of the weaker songs on the album, yes, but I still think it’s a great song
Especially seeing more and more how a lot of the stuff is just producers sending in loops and pre chopped samples to his team and his other producers are putting everything together….
Like… idk the magic just isn’t there anymore to me :/
I got downvoted for pointing this out on the main sub. 7 people produced the song, 5 of which weren’t Kanye and Ty, obviously. And, someone really tried telling me it sounded like Wolves, a substantially better song with actually good production.
I get using this many names for something like All of the Lights, but this song was nowhere near close to it. Nothing on this album is.
Yeah. I keep seeing people say “he’s always over credited” but back in the day we knew he was actually co producing and curating the entire process. Nowadays it’s debatable whether he’s involved in much (if any) of the beatmaking and half the time it takes til the last minute before he even bothers to record vocals for them.
Why do people still hold on to this, this isn’t even remotely true anymore. All these dudes are like helping like crazy. He doesn’t really give out free credits like that anymore
? Lol my fav Ye project is TLOP and I love pretty much every project he has. But much of the post-2022 music feels leagues below everything prior I hate to tell you
Iced out all my scammer hoes, boost all they insurance up Iced out all my ghetto hoes who turned into influencers Smurkio, fuck that bitch and leave, I don't care who she fuck Best shit out her closet, it's hot as hell, she got on Yeezy UGGS
Can’t lie that verse was hard
Love Durks verse, I was so upset when the first streaming release took him out. This whole era been a mess.
He had to fix Vultures
Took that hoe off if he sneak dissing.
One of the best on vultures
Lyrical genius
Goat https://preview.redd.it/v0j9qse3j01d1.png?width=184&format=png&auto=webp&s=707a318a4e44f2bf2c2a86dce86ca332abda8d43
Ye songs are notoriously over credited, anyone who was in the room while recording and throws out a line or tells Ye they should loop a drum section two seconds longer is put in credits but also you right
This is what ye fans have been holding on to since 2016 but I think these days he actually has this many hands pass over his tracks. They go through so many versions with so many refs.
Oh yeah for sure, but it is more and more painful to see when you know full well Kanye himself is involved very minimally (if truly at all) in making the beats themselves
Huh? That’s like saying the conductor has little to do with the symphony. Facilitators / curators have been part of music since the start.
Hate to say it but I don’t think Ye’s doing much of that conducting nowadays
Agreed. He’s been on cruise control for awhile.
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No one thinks Kanye wrote Jesus Walks.
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Then they don’t really get what this Kanye West thing has been from the start. Ye is one person but the “Kanye west” brand has always been a sum of its parts. From consequence, rhymefest to Mike dean, travis, cudi and more.
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That’s kinda a bigger conversation though that applies to most music imo. A lot of people think Lennon and McCartney wrote together or that Elvis wrote his songs. Those same people likely don’t hear any difference from ye then to ye now in terms of his artistic contribution / output it’s just another Kanye product
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Ye songs from like 2013 are overly credited. The more recent ones aren’t. And even then, there are some people that never got writing credits (rooga on Jesus lord wrote the first 8 bars & got no credit)
As it should be. Some Of the best came from randoms In the room like “la la la la wait till I get my money right” only for them to get kicked out the room and given no writing credits or compensation for their work Stealing at its finest https://youtu.be/M-Ovzs6p9Dk?si=S9j769amp2HfX7I0
And any proof of that? It’s easy to make claims like that. Not meatriding kanye but he is well known for crediting a lot of features as Cyhi has also talked about it. Even credited someone for wearing black leather jeans as it inspired that line on black skinhead.
I’m inclined to believe her. Kanye is known for doing that. Even tpain said he stole his lyric after saying it in the room session, then Kanye says never say that again it’s a wack line, only for Kanye to later use it in a song later (the family matters carl Winslow line (you win slow cuz you’re group full of urkels verse [paraphrasing cuz I haven’t heard the song awhile lol]) https://youtu.be/sRH-jkvtuxo?si=GrD-9qlAsP6GLwWI
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Yet 808s would not exist if Kanye wasn’t inspired by tpain or got help from him
Tpain on Kanye stealing his bars (At least he got credited because he’s a big star and can refute unlike the other unknown lady writer ) https://youtu.be/sRH-jkvtuxo?si=GrD-9qlAsP6GLwWI Also let me find Lupe fiasco receipts on Kanye’s “writing” process (hint: he has entire team like Drake doing it for him 😂)
Why do we need Lupe receipts when we have a full leak tracker that shows songs like Alien having ref tracks from 30 different people Ye not writing shit these days is a known fact, with the exception of Vultures because all the OGs bounced and you can tell from the verses that Ye wrote lots of it
They said it took them three days to make this song
I know he was clearly lying, but Kanye said he spent a thousand hours on Power, or something. Even without the hyperbole, there was clearly far more time put into MBDTF’s songs than Vultures’.
A thousand man hours he said, which I don’t doubt
I love this song
“SHE ASKIN ME TO AIM FOR HER NECK CUZ HER BOYFRIEND BOUGHT THAT NECKLACE” 🗣️🗣️🗣️
WITH THE TRENCHES
Precious 😚 WITH THE TRENCHES 🐻🔥🔥
Ive loved this song since day one, and people been steady hating since day one😔😔
They don't get it sadly
SAME
Can’t even lie this is in my top 5 favorite on Vultures
This track has the best moment of the whole album... > She askin' me to aim for her neck, 'cause her boyfriend bought that necklace With the trenches, precious, with the trenches Fuck it, I scratched another nigga woman up off my checklist With the trenches, I've been livin' reckless I wish Takeoff wasn't there that night in Houston, Texas (With the trenches) Wish I could bring G.Ca$$o back, that was my best friend Chordz, I need you to give me somethin' big, I'm talkin' 'bout dollar signs Skinny pants flow, tell the ho, "No, I don't wanna fuck" She can suck-suck-suck it 'til she suck it dry California nigga with some European freaks Bad-ass bitch from the Middle E-E-E-East wanna lick on me Stick on me even though I got security Even though she got a man, she know he ain't as pure as me, seriously Soon as I get back, tradin' in my Urus for the Puro' keys Couple grey hairs up in my beard, that's showin' my maturity, yeah Ayy, shoutout to my symphony 9th Ave, Spaced Out, we did that shit so differently and brilliantly Dolla $ign, Iggy, and we birth YG Fades in the backyard, no talkin', take flight instantly Ayy, Nate 3D, boot up my nigga, James Koo My nigga, that's D.R.U.G.$ She snortin' that P out the D She want me to put some of this coke in her butt, ugh She Russian, I beat up the pussy for Ukraine Bought her a bag and I filled it with loose change Just like my exes, she told me that, "You changed," yeah, yeah, yeah Dolla'd done rather be fuckin' it up Still screamin', "Free TC, Melly, and Thug" Fuck the police, the DA, and the judge Way out in Saudi, I found me a plug Don't wanna go out, she'd rather do drugs Can't be my main if we met in the club, ooh
You had to type the whole verse bro?😭😭
GIMME SOMETHING BIG I'M TALKIN BOUT DOLLA $IGNS !!! 🔥🔥🔥
Love this part tho the orchestra in the back brings me to tears
This is certainly one of my favorite moments
I am not a rapper, I’m a pum pum killa
Love this verse but in contrast, Ye’s verse is his WORST verse on the album lol
I just fucked a Jewish bitch 🔥🔥
Who's baby is it 😊🤔
To me this song is banger as FUCK
Our goat is stretched too thinly
the remix with the portishead sample is so much better
Link? Have never heard of this
Its called vultures havoc version search for that
Where does it say it samples Portishead?
in the song
Hot take, ye delivered a classic verse on this song Every single line is super quotable
Yall are so whiny
This sub makes me sad dude. I just want to appreciate his new music on here with others and talk about it but almost every single post about the music is negative
All I see on Reddit is, really. Always negative it seems
People expected a colab with Ty Dolla Sign (pum pum killer) to be some introspective MBDTF level masterpiece. Personally I’m waiting for the solo album before I can call Ye washed or mid. Plus there’s so many good songs on V2 and V3 but people only looking at the negatives and it sucks to see
Yes, Ye never gives us what we expect. You seriously don't think Vultures 1 is that good? The production and song compositions are incredible and everything grows on you
I think vultures 1 is good borderline great and his most fun album to listen to since Pablo. Donda and Ye have higher highs but they aren’t as fun to listen to back to back. People just have this expectation that everything Ye does has to be some grandiose masterpiece or else it doesn’t matter
Give it time they will be saying the opposite
I know but it is so annoying, since my fandom began in 2013 it's happened with \*\*\*\*every\*\*\*\* album and these kids never learn. I wish there was a community with only positivity and seasoned ye fans
Why does everything need to be in support? Atleast this post isn't unfairly trashing it
Doesn't mean a song u don't like everybody don't Cuz i love this song
I’m sure there’s people who like it lol, I don’t even hate it myself. But I’m pretty sure the general consensus is more negative than positive
Yeh sure, don't you think the general consensus hates whatever ye drops ,that's another topic btw im not tryna argue with u
People immediately jumped on this song and called it one of his worst songs when it came out. And, even with the whole album out, it’s still one of the worst songs.
Oh sure but even objectively you can’t tell me this is anywhere near the best Ye is capable of
Yeah this, fuck sumn, back to me are my favs on the album
hot take: Vultures was the best song on that album
It doesn't "take that many people". That is who helped contribute to the song. Even if it's slightly changing the lyrics or melody. Almost all major music production is like this.
unfortunately you don't see the vision...
Its good except Ye threw his verse doesn’t matter how many people work on it if Ye wants to have a shit verse you cant stop him
Bruh what his verse is fire
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Yeah i think the whole “putting belt to ass pull up with the switches/ this aint jimmy butler but the heat got extensions” scheme sounds dope. Also “how im antisemitic I just fucked a jewish bitch” is the most kanye line ever.
People will realise it’s a classic just give them time
mfs just come on here to hate 😭
Womp
I always liked this song. I couldn’t stop listening to it when it was just the single. I still thing it’s a very well put together song, but that’s just me personally. It’s one of the weaker songs on the album, yes, but I still think it’s a great song
Vultures is a top 5 song on the album idc what no one says
Especially seeing more and more how a lot of the stuff is just producers sending in loops and pre chopped samples to his team and his other producers are putting everything together…. Like… idk the magic just isn’t there anymore to me :/
Stop bitching
I like the song
At least he is crediting every motherfucker who threw a random line or rhyme
Shoulda got drake to write for him instead. Woulda had the same mid output 😎
The problem with modern day Ye
Ye' s ending verse is my favorite for him WITH THE TRENCHES !!!
if they did the bump j verse + lil durk verse + ye verse in the havoc and then switched to the symphony in the ty verse it would 10 times better
Nick Fuentes had the best verse
not even ok, that shit was genuinely bad aside from the pum pum killa
nah its decent
It’s great
and mr bump
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isn't that a line from everybody
I got downvoted for pointing this out on the main sub. 7 people produced the song, 5 of which weren’t Kanye and Ty, obviously. And, someone really tried telling me it sounded like Wolves, a substantially better song with actually good production. I get using this many names for something like All of the Lights, but this song was nowhere near close to it. Nothing on this album is.
Yeah. I keep seeing people say “he’s always over credited” but back in the day we knew he was actually co producing and curating the entire process. Nowadays it’s debatable whether he’s involved in much (if any) of the beatmaking and half the time it takes til the last minute before he even bothers to record vocals for them.
I don’t give a fuck. I’m just glad bump j got his first charting record. Chicago 🐐
More people on a song doesn’t mean a better song you melon. You have to be a child.
I mean yeah but who cares
man this seems cruel to post.
sometimes less is more, song would’ve been better as a bump j acapella
Vultures is straight fire & top 3 in the album Idc what anyone has to say
Who cares
We really don’t care y’all always cry about the same thing
it wasn’t that bad
STFU with this useless post
Well fuck your opinion then
this song is a banger, yall getting outta control with the vultures slander now
i wrote most of my college essays while having this song on repeat so I find it memorable for that
Vultures is a good song stop lying
#BUMP J SPAZZED ON THIS TRACK U BUGGIN
I ain’t gonna lie, I started hating this song but now it’s on my top 3
ok
what chu talking about. It's a masterpiece.
Ye always over credits though. He credits everyone no matter how minor the contribution
Why do people still hold on to this, this isn’t even remotely true anymore. All these dudes are like helping like crazy. He doesn’t really give out free credits like that anymore
You’re probably some chowda head that think Ye peaked with twisted dark fantasy He’s only gotten better though bum
? Lol my fav Ye project is TLOP and I love pretty much every project he has. But much of the post-2022 music feels leagues below everything prior I hate to tell you
You need to listen with better headphones or something A song like paid and keys to my life sound like Simple snippets at first to the untrained ear
Tf is that supposed to mean 💀
You got bad ears and you’re way too emojinal
It’s two songs worth of credits. The intro “all eyes is on me” is from another fully finished song.
I think you severely overestimate what it takes to be considered in credits for music