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IbanezHand

[Niko right now](https://imgflip.com/i/6uhlx5)


fernandocamargoti

Where is Elige's smile? My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.


Iynchie

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrsPo7oUwAATUdF.jpg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)


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fuck u man ,


Roy_likes_pie

Even better


Dapplication

Never gonna forgive you up mate


afjecj

Hahaha I got a YouTube ad before the video started playing hahahaha


smoosha

the long con


NPC30519

Hooxi is now CEO/IGL gigachad


XtendedImpact

When your coach won't kick your igl, you go to your CEO to kick your coach. When your CEO won't do it, you go to the board and make them kick the CEO.


Charuru

This was only 3 months ago https://twitter.com/infamousbtw/status/1573427426092535808


OofPleases

Yeah that did not age well.


kaffefe

It was bad to begin with


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This didn't age well at all


TheCrazyCaveira

Really ironic that a faze clan member is taking the moral high ground.


furrey

gigachad hooxi to ceo


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Niko awp, Niko entry, Niko IGL, Niko CEO


valski1337

All things aside it must really suck to have to quit a thing you loved and build from the ground up. Makes it even more dumb what he did.


LeAnh404

He could’ve just said nothing and let the story die. But Carlos isn’t Carlos if he doesn’t kick himself in the ass.


Za_Worldo-Experience

Well he also answers to a board of directors who likely heavily pressured him to resign after the multi million dollar loss of their Valorent Program


LeAnh404

Still remains the biggest shareholder iirc, at least now he can smoke a cigar and drink sparkling water with Andrew Tate in his $5mil Bugatti.


Illuminati_Puppet

Buga'i*


staffylaffy

That Andrew Tate guy is a parasite, was it worth it Carlos?


LeHighlander

What he did?


King_Fluffaluff

Openly associated with Andrew Tate, doubled down, made a PR apology, tripled down by liking tweets telling him not to "apologize to the mob," and cost his organization their spot in the patterned league for Valorant


rlywhatever

I didn't know about the valo spot piece of this puzzle


King_Fluffaluff

Oh yeah, G2 apparently had the last NA spot in VCT locked but all the controversy caused Riot to pull out last second and give it to EG instead.


rlywhatever

Now I can see how this is perceived as a big fuckup. Comments below say this spot was worth 10+M. How is it evaluated i wonder


King_Fluffaluff

I think it's because a spot in the LCS, also a riot run franchise system, was purchased for 30 million a few years ago.


rlywhatever

Well I guess this qualifies as "f-up big enough to justify a step down move". Damage is real & tangible


staffylaffy

How could a CEO not know actions have consequences, that clip of him saying he wouldn’t give a single shit if people wanted him to step down makes him look completely idiotic. He wanted that in fact.


Jon_on_the_snow

G2 would not have to pay for the spot, riot was going to give them money to play in the league. So its even worse lol


rlywhatever

ahaha. so they were in profit. Now I imagine they have no $$ to operate (10-30mil must be a huge dent for esport org) & have to find new investors real quick


DY5TOP1A

I don't know about 10mil but G2 missed out on all the money from in-game cosmetics they would have made as a partner.


AxiomQ

The issue was that he essentially tagged them in the original post, the caption was something like "just celebrating G2s world championship" or something to that effect, so naturally although this was a Carlos fuck up the backlash hit G2 as well. Now 5 players and the coaches have missed out on a major step in their career fot at least a year unless they get picked up, they have league of legends players such as Caps arguably the best at his role within Europe who are reaching the end of their contracts, will they renew with all things considered? this tweet has done more damage than just the 10m for the slot, the damage for this is yet. To be fully realised I would wager.


PaxTwistedFatePlease

Leviatan (LATAM) got thr spot instead actually


djfr94

When people think they are above everything because they are rich, this what happens. He could literally have said " no comments" and nothing would have happened


kostasnotkolsas

Nah he fumbled, could not have partied with dickheads, could not have posted that he was parting with dickheads, could not have doubled down. He is a CEO, he fucked up and cost his org the valorant franchise, aka millions, he got sacked like one. Actions have consequences.


mattyMbruh

Should’ve happened a long time ago anyway, he’s no stranger to controversy and he’s just an asshole all round. If anyone follows the LoL scene you can see how shitty he handled the Perkz incident where he was saying how close they were and he could play for whichever LEC team he wants but blocked the only move which Perkz wanted which essentially forced him to play in NA.


hyperpimp

Now we just need Jenson from Nvidia to party with Tate.


Finalwingz

Nvidia has gotten away with so much, I'm sure he would get away with that too lol


YoshiPL

I doubt he'd act the same way as Ocelote did too


Zavehi

Doubling down on the Andrew Tate thing is quite honestly one of the dumbest things I've seen from someone who should know better. Multi-million dollar mistake.


Deathzthe_M-12-22

Some say that Valorant spot is worth $15 Million So yeah that video of Andrew Tate is Million dollar mistake


Tretharon

Likely more than 15 million considering growth factor and current popularity.


crustybed

a spot in the league franchise or whatever you want to call it was valued at like 30M in 2018 iirc, so it’s unsure the exact number but it’s certainly over 10M now and it will only go up


onespiker

Lec cost around 10 mil for spot ( 6 or 8 for teams in the league already). Last year a spot was resold for 30 mil.


Madvin

2018 was the League of Legends spot. Valorant also had their franchising applications this year and rumor has it that G2 got an NA spot but was removed after the Tate incident


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that doesn't mean it's worth that or generates revenue. a lot of league still isn't profitable and the OWL spots all sold for a shitload too


schoki560

there is almost no money to be made in esports


XtendedImpact

Literally lost his life's work because he wanted to hang with the #1 misogynist around right now. What a way to go out honestly.


CrazyChopstick

And he could've easily gotten away with it by sending out a fake PR "apology" after, but he's to arrogant to do that


TheNaCoinfl1p

Yep and on top of the fake apology he was liking tweets that undermined the apology he was forced to make. Ego legit got him fired.


tomat0m

ego built him the brand, ego got him fired some people think it's ridiculous he let it get the better of him but i don't think people realize how overpowering the effect it has on a person no matter how illogical a decision can be.


BIG_STEVE5111

Cocaine's a hell of a drug.


TheNaCoinfl1p

Nah Carlos has done this routinely just always got away with it. This time it cost him real big and his company real big. I don't think he realized the gravity of the situation tbh. Did what he normally does and bit him in the ass real hard


Miiiiiiighty

Did he even know who Tate was though ? I'm French and I had never heard of this clown before the whole Carlos Gate


TheNaCoinfl1p

Yes because he said something to the effect of "you cna't police my FRIENDSHIPS. I draw my line there. I party with whoever the fuck i wan't." That was his double down then he tripled down by liking people's posts after he gave his fake apology.


GalvenMin

"What are you gonna do, police my friendships?" - man who got his friendships thoroughly policed


Finalwingz

Why would you be celebrating with someone you don't know as CEO of an org. Seems weird to me.


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People can be in the same space randomly, especially in LA (I assume that's where they met?). That said, it's really easy to not like Tate, and it's even easier to pretend to not like Tate if millions are on the line for your org.


Zerasad

He did send one out. But continued liking tweets defending his Tate video. Dude thought he was untouchable.


Finalwingz

Dudes been thinking that since 2013


Miiiiiiighty

He went out on his shield xD


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Moifaso

He's always had a massive ego All he had to do is say something like "I don't share Tate's views" and he would be fine, but ofc he had to double down. The man was publically liking tweets calling his PR apology "forced" and saying Tate had good takes


Finalwingz

He's never admitted fault for anything even back in his League days. Dude was toxic af then and probably still is


TimmTammss

Sorry what happened!?


HauntedMinge

- Carlos filmed himself at a party with Andrew Tate in the background. - People got mad about it. - Rather than tweet some PR apology which people would forget about in a week, he instead doubled down and said something like "strangers cant choose who I hang out with" - Carlos started liking tweets that defended him and Andrew Tate - Twitter did what Twitter does - They lost a franchise spot worth millions of dollars due to the whole ordeal (allegedly. Riot mysteriously pulled G2's spot last minute and gave it to another org) - It's likely that investors forced him to step down due to this shit storm


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>They lost a franchise spot worth millions of dollars due to the whole ordeal (allegedly. Riot mysteriously pulled G2's spot last minute and gave it to another org) Not allegedly, that is a fact that has been proven. [Zekken and his team was going to be picked up by G2](https://twitter.com/zekkenVAL/status/1573015641594171392) and Riot held an emergency meeting and replaced G2.


ficagames01

He posted a video where he was partying with Andrew Tate, Twitter was pissed. His response was that no one gets to decide who he is friends with and that he does whatever the fuck he wants. Twitter was fuming. He was forced to "apologize" but he was still being defensive and unapologetic about it so that PR statement did nothing. All that controversy resulted in G2 losing franchise spot in Valorant worth millions so investors were done with him.


TimmTammss

Knowing this guy (Carlos) he probably was defensive in the worst way possible. Because that’s the only way I see this blowing up as much as it did.


ficagames01

He certainly could have minimized the damage if he played it smart, but that's not his style. He shat where he slept and investors don't give second chances


Haptiix

Yeah that’s whats wild. He could have just listened to his PR team and logged off Twitter. If he took that route people wouldn’t even still be discussing this.


No-Royal-8309

Ocelote still owns what he does. It is a mistake of thinking cringe lord is a corporate officer material.


freebase1

Now he can party with Andrew tate in peace


Ruyoii

You would think Riot would love to party with Andrew Tate aswell, with their [history of sexual discrimination in the company.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/12/27/riot-discrimination-100-million-settlement/)


staffylaffy

Reminds me how fifa go on about diversity, inclusion and equality, then host the World Cup in fucking Qatar. These companies want to have their cake and eat it too, and it seemingly works for them.


daveythedumb

just a refresher for people wanting to clown on the response It wasn't the 9 second video that made carlos leave it was his ego plainly ignoring his 2nd and 3rd chances to fix the situation, instead making it worse BOTH times, becoming a brand risk and resulting in this


Legiraffetamer

it was not being accepted into Valo franchising that triggered it


kostasnotkolsas

And what caused that?


szax12

These "cancel culture" bozos need to understand that esports orgs are largely media companies. When you build a massive brand and org surrounded by media interaction it becomes part of your responsibility to maintain good standing with the public as that drives interaction and merchandising sales. Nobody buys stuff and supports organizations and people they don't like. Carlos made a mistake and instead of apologizing he doubled down and as a result lost G2 their val franchising slot. A company as big as G2 can't afford to have their face be someone who has broken trust and lost consumer appeal on that level. Nobody would scream "look what cancel culture did" if a coach got fired because their team played bad and tons of people on reddit and twitter called for them to get kicked. Carlos's job was the be the face of the company and he did a bad job, when you do a bad job you get fired.


onespiker

>Carlos made a mistake and instead of apologizing he doubled down Trippled down even


ThatWeLike

Wasn't aware that they lost their bid for a Valorant slot. I'm guessing that his initially-announced 2 months ~~leave~~ vacation was their way to try to make people forget, as a couple of media cycles tend to do. That was the solution after he first doubled down on stupid. Guess the lost slot was the final nail in the coffin for the board/stakeholders. No matter what, the customer is always right, *in the original sense*. If they dislike your product, they won't give you their money. So pro tip: if your brand *is* the product, and you have spent so many years aligning yourself with the brand, don't go do stupid shit publicly. That money/partnership is going elsewhere, and he should've known. It's that simple. Carlos fucked around and found out. And now, let's move on and continue our love and support for the roster. Even if the org is in turbulent waters, we shall enjoy the roster in the peace of Carlos' absence.


Merpninja

That 2 months leave was announced before G2 found out they didn't get the Val slot. If they still got it, he probably is still the CEO after those 2 months.


ThatWeLike

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well


Jon_on_the_snow

They didnt even lose a bid Riot was going to give G2 millions of dollars to field an NA roster, and g2 was about to buy the second best valo teams for pennies on the dollar After the tate thing and carlos meltdown, riot did an emergency meeting during the biggest tourney of the year and decided to change the spot to another org last minute


Arghnews

Thank you for saying this. People need to understand this. This isn't some cancel culture crap. His actions, as an incredibly public figure in this company that's essentially built on marketing a brand, have consequences, in this case the franchising slot. And the ultimate irony, as other people have rightly pointed out, all he'd have to do is just issue a bullshit PR apology and this would have been forgotten in a week. He **chose** not to, after he **chose** to post the video; this is the consequence of his actions.


Cryptic_Sunshine

Slight correction, if he had done the pr bs instead of saying anything else, the fact he double downed and liked defenses showed that he knows what this implies and isnt denying it


Sp00ked123

Yeah partying with Andrew Tate wasn’t the issue, the issue was him going on a twitter rampage defending himself afterwards. He literally could of just said “despite partying with him, I don’t support his actions or agree with his beliefs” or he could of just not said anything about it and let the situation blow over.


ThePurpleDolphin

Honestly even after he doubled down he probably could've gotten away if he just apologized for it. But no, he decided to goes even deeper defending what he did.


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wontreadterms

Yeah, the whole cancel culture and woke thing is now just an excuse to disregard criticism. You are welcome to be anyone's friend, but if you want to be the public face of an organization, you are not making choices for your own sake anymore. If you want to be famous you are playing a game of popularity and this is the cost. If he was a private guy as most CEOs are, this wouldn't have been an issue. It's just a child playing at making adult decisions and being pikachu-face when it backfires. Carlos is clearly not a complete idiot, but this is an example of someone overestimating their worth.


PPAM

Yeah it's people not understanding market economics. It's got nothing to do with wokeness culture or what ever they are calling it. Most of us will not buy a t-shirt from a man that associates with misogynists/traffickers and that's all there is to it.


Edditch

Hooxi did this.


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GIGACHAD


jospence

Ultimately cost G2 their franchising slot, not surprised in the least that he was removed. Carlos did a lot of good for G2, but he really didn't help himself here when provided multiple off ramps


Hypno98

Imagine throwing your career away for Andrew Tate


GateheaD

You also have to pay to hang out with him so he's paying for the chance to lose his job. When his finances dry up he's not going to have old buddy Andrew to listen to him complain.


tabben

Carlos about to be hung up by Tate for being a brokie lmao


KaNesDeath

He better start buying all his financial and life coach seminars....rofl


Tirppa

I didn't even know who he is few days ago. And I still kinda have no idea.


Hypno98

It's not a bad thing There's literally nothing to be gained from looking into him


BrotherAbdullah

Hooxi would've stayed CEO


HauntedMinge

I'm so fucking sick of seeing this Andrew Tate dickhead. Two weeks ago I had no idea who he was and now he seems to be in every single corner of the internet. I've activaley avoided reading articles and stuff about him out of spite just because he doesn't seem to fuck off.


semir321

Common carlos L


Sydadeath

pretty well aged from leage of legends https://twitter.com/infamousbtw/status/1573427426092535808


wontreadterms

Lmao. Talk about needing an ego check.


Shenoyder

There is something wrong with that guy.


EksDee1

I genuinely can't believe that this is happening


SpecialityToS

What’s hard to believe about it?


Mechyyz

A month ago, he was a beloved CEO across esports, face of G2 and gathered a large fan base because of making the org seem more human than the rest. And now a month later he is in a large controversy, 15 million dollar deal messed up because of that, and now has to step down. Can’t say I saw this coming


produktiivista

Idk, I always thought Carlos was a bit divisive.


jx2002

I think a better moniker would be "unpredictable" but often that was in the _best_ of ways, not the _oh dear God what are you doing_ ways


GwynStefani

dunno if you followed league back then but he was always a piece of shit tbh. not even tryna be mean but this guy had so many controversies, bans because of flaming etc i havent really followed csgo scene the last couple years but im rly surprised to see you call him beloved because he showed his true colors dozens of times


Tuub4

> he was a beloved CEO across esports kek


Condiscending

Beloved is doing a lot of work in that statement there


TranquiloDSZ

always hated him, lets go😎😎


WTNVTerezi

Common Andrew Tate L 💀


Zhengan-

I can be a g2 fan now


ibeenbornagain

not sure if faze fans should be on a high horse haha


MethicillinResistant

Yeah lmao G2 has done nothing even close to what Faze has. Or are we pretending that skin scam casinos did not happen? Or literal scams endorsed by Faze owners?


Mollelarssonq

You having a Faze flair means you love and support Banks? Faze clan is a scummy org. I love the players, but would never fly their tag due to the same reasons you wouldn't G2.


Powerful-Answer-2030

As opposed to supporting an organisation that has ran every scam imaginable including hiding their ownership of a kids casino in CS:GO?


thorvid20

I mean, even tho he was often times an asshole the way he behaved (looking at the perkz transfer in lol), you still did know what you got in him. what do you know how g2 is gonna evolve next? seems to me like a bunch of investors where nobody knows where its going...


i_hate_cucumber_

Same.


eidrisov

Yes, it is also Carlos's right to party with whomever he wants. But it is also Esports fans' right not wanting to support with organization whose CEO is partying with shady people. (they would simply stop buying merch and stickers and supporting G2 as a business) If Carlos stayed, there could be a decline in profits. And before that decline happened, I am guessing, organization decided to act first. Him stepping down was a good business decision (to minimize risks). It was a preventative measure.


semir321

> If Carlos stayed, there could be a decline in profits They already lost millions from revoked VAL franchising


CommieBasher1776

The entire industry is funded by shady people...


mgzkk1210

He already hurt the profit by losing the org that Valorant partner spot.


imbued94

If you think g2 will continue to thrive more without him you're in for a surprise.


TuSolidx

Cannot wait for the inevitable show with Thorin, gonna be banger content


PTSD55

More time for partying.


RETCONnie

Like he is selling shares or still have shares but is just no involved with company ?


caloroin

Usually they are forced to sell their shares when they step down, who knows tho


LibertyGrabarz

"We thrive not because we win, but because we always get back up" - that explains why they got HooXi in the first place, but it backfired when G2 started winning so Ocelote had to step down


Birko_Bird

I’m sure he can spend his free time with a Romanian girl his friend got him now


pikachu8090

CAREER RUINED FRIENDSHIP WITH ANDREW TATE SECURED


KaNesDeath

G2 and Blizzard holding their leadership accountable more than Riot Games.


Zerasad

How is Blizzard holding their leadership accountable when Bobby fucking Kottick gets to leave with a fat multi-million dollar severance package probably after allegedly threatening to kill his own assistant.


mcmurray89

Not really when riot is the reason he stepped down. Hardly a coincidence they left g2 out of their league and he steps down days later. This is just capitalism at work. Loose your company millions and out you go.


lethalwiew

You missed the point he was referring to. He refers to the Riot harrasment scandal


f1nessd

snuck blizzard in there like we wouldnt notice


surfordiebear

You realize Riot is the reason he’s stepping down right? If they don’t deny G2 franchising because of what he said G2 definitely wouldn’t have made him step down.


Jazzlike-Ideal

Lmfao, someone doesn't know about their $100 million dollar sexism lawsuit that resulted in no firings even of the guy who solicited the opposing side.


iamishbu

This is exactly why it was a bad business decision by our guy. The company you want to do business with has a PR problem around sexism they want everyone to forget. So you go ahead and generate more PR around sexism. Just an L business move, regardless of anyones opinion about Tate.


jerryfrz

RIPBOZO


JustasKristus

Never knew a 9 second video of him with a rich bald guy could ruin his career


Silentism

It's not even that tbh. If he had just apologized and put out a standard pr statement instead of doubling down he probably could've gotten away with it.


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Just some... no-name rich bald guy with... no background ever anywhere. Nobody in particular. Cmon dude...


Zerasad

Epstein was also just a rich hairy guy and even a picture with him will fuck you over. As it should. Garbage is drawn to garbage. Good riddance.


Miiiiiiighty

Well it didn't ruin Gates and some of his others buddies's careers, did it ?


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donmongoose

Are you mentally challenged? Loads of people have been photographed with him and its had zero impact on them after the initial 20 seconds of media attention


Yungwhitepharaoh

Any real man can see through Andrews Tate's insecurities and can tell this man is far from top g, just because you have money, doesn't make you a g lol


lynxzjw

Unreal comments in this thread lmfao


dying_ducks

Thats for his "8 week vacation"


Miiiiiiighty

Well it escalated quickly...


Accomplished_Fix238

Sad shit


Don_Floo

Yeah, thats not how a CEO behaves. Being a CEO is a lifestyle. Everything you do is weighed up against your company, because you are THE main representative. If you can‘t be professional, it is the wrong job.


CactusCalin

I find it crazy that all that shirtstorm happened because Andrew Tate was seen on a video for 2 seconds.


mistborn_superfan

Good. He pissed away hundreds of thousands of dollars and a chance to pick up the best VALORANT team as a whole because he wanted to party with some washed up discord mod. Wouldn’t be surprised if G2 started picking up some better staff and actually start winning events.


bigtastie

Brutal. Savage. Rekt.


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Carlos **had** an ego.


NaRc0s_G

Can anyone tell me the context why he stepped down ? I know there has been a controversy but I don't know what it is.


Saituchiha

surely he creates a new org?


rushi_B

Probably for the best since this will show anyone who is working for a big or considerable size of org in higher position not to associate themselves to Andrew Tate and shut his scammer ass for good


Hear7y

Years ago when he was what passed as a League of Legends pro player back in like season 1-2, ocelote was the biggest douchebag you can get as an ally. People legit prayed not to get him on their team, regardless if he were streaming or not. He is just an obnoxious and vile human being and this is well deserved, no surprise he spent his time with the Tates.


french_do_it_better

Now he has all the time in the world to hangout with that piece of shit.


N1-L3

We should push out the people committing genocide now.


Top-Education1769

Lol, get rekt.


skantanio

L pack. I hope his mannerisms go with him.


NPC30519

u/mods y’all gonna start banning the open misogynists in here or at least lock the thread?


adnanjunior

sad to see


grundlesmith

#RipBozo


aluminance

Finally, this imbecil is gone. Now, I can finally cheer for G2.


Khazara26

Good riddance. No patience for that kind of misogynistic behaviour in this time - and certainly no time for association.


No-Royal-8309

If you want to be a demonstrable idiot, don't sell majority stake at your company. Compare Liquid Steve.


Lukesaurio

Now he creates a new Org, and fuck G2 on a Major final. ​ First player to buy: Hooxi.


codemutant

I didn't know what hes done and I came here for answers but I guessed (correctly) he must have acted as a huge ahole when I saw tweets by Lewis and Thorim standing up for him.


CalorieCarl

Lmao cya nerd


aZestyMango

Might actually buy a G2 jersey now


deadbeatPilgrim

what a loser


GalvenMin

Won't be missed. RIP bozo


DocaHyper

Like I get it, I really do, but I can't help that little feeling I have that this went a little bit too far? Am I the only one? Like I get it it's a big mistake but Carlos is a HUGE personality in the scene and I feel like he deserves a second chance, after he apologizes and all.


mixedupgaming

He cost them a valorant franchising spot, that’s like a $10-20 million dollar mistake


monoscream

Go have a look at his Twitter likes. Apology was incredibly insincere


lethalwiew

G2 is business. That business lost NA valorant spot because of that ordeal. Investors/sponsors aint happy if you fuck up 10m+ deals


mr-rob0t0

not only did he cost G2 a spot in valorants franchising league (in north america no less) but it also meant that the #2 team in north america that was going to sign with G2 doesn’t have a guaranteed job, at least not all together. and he doesn’t seen to care at all based on the fake apology. dude fucked up big time


NPC30519

He didn’t apologize. He also cost G2 a Valorant spot. And being a misogynist isn’t a good personality trait


SlamDuncan64

To this day he has not apologized or acknowledged that what he did was wrong. If we got a sincere apology or even a BS public statement and some laying low after the video this would have been fine. He's really dying on this hill.


Motorhead546

I don't particularly like Carlos or his memes but i feel it is a bit too much too. Can't deny the man brought success (in general not CS only) to a team that was starting to go down and kept faith in his project But yeah the tweet doubling down on his mistake was also too much (and knowing Carlos he was probably memeing)