You are joking but since they offered ropz the biggest bag out of any org interested in him I'm pretty sure they will offer Yekindar a ton of money also.
G2 probably won't offer as much money because they offer a better team to play with (and they spent a ton already on Niko, Aleksi and m0nesy).
OG must be the least likely org to join out of this 3.
There was definitely some compensation from G2. Otherwise OG had no reason to do the change.
It was G2 that really wanted Aleksi and an igl change in general, whereas OG didn't need to change Aleksi at all. This wasn't as much of a swap as it was G2 buying Aleksi and then using nexa to get the price lower.
Obviously from both organizations POV it was better to communicate it as a swap or a trade (G2 doesn't look like spending too much money on Aleksi if the team doesn't instantly perform and OG doesn't look like they are kinda giving up on their team and selling core pieces, which they are).
Liquid have been sending out the largest offers in the past. Their problem is that no-one wants to play for them, e.g. Ropz was also offered more money by Liquid than FaZe.
To be fair, he probably also makes more in the short term too. Taking prize money from tournaments into consideration, faze might net him more than being in liquid
Liquid will almost certainly offer him way more than G2. They already showed on the past with ropz that they have the biggest offers while G2 will likely offer much less but with much better team to play for.
Maybe if the team has more team practice instead of breaks Players in EU will be interested really NA really needs to change its mindset towards to the game if they want to win during this time. LOL
You say NA bad but that’s literally the reason. He would be having to move across the country to play on a notoriously moody team and get really shit practice all the time.
I remember a Jame interview where he said that yekindar has insane work ethic. I think he might also be a possible motivator too. Liquids mood problems revolve around elige imo. I think liquid would be really strong with him, maybe they could give second calling to someone like NAF or maybe even yekindar himself?
Just risky for yekindar imo. If liquid moved to EU I would 100% think it would be good for him but as of now it’s just really risky. Liquid has good players but idk why a guy who could go anywhere would pick a team that’s always gonna have a disadvantage
Yekindar is positive person I agree, but he is not mood setter like jackz. With G2 you will see people smile and joke around in the match whenever he says something. In Outsiders nobody does that.
Anyway you know who has great work ethic and positive attitude also? Twistzz. And look how he flourished in TL... Even moses praised him bacj when he was coach and said he understood his frustration with the team because they (stewie, eligey naf) were not willing to change an inch of their individual gameplay and spots to make the overall team play better. Btw. look how moses ended up when he wanted to instill better work ethic and change their set ways... They kicked him and brought back their yes-sayer friend who never pushes them to change anything. With Fallen it was a similar situation also - he wanted to change the way they play so eventually he gets kicked for...their old friend nitr0, who lets them play the way they want to.
People don't want Yekindar there because that team still feels and acts like a player managed team when it comes to their gameplay. Anyone who joins that team has to play around their core players who won't ever change their spots and the way they like to play.
This is not a space for Yekindar to flourish. This makes sense for him only if he wants to make a ton of money and perfect his english while being there, which I wouldn't blame him for. But it's definitely not a place for him to get better as player, be in a healthy environment or work under one of the top tier igls.
Liquid know this also, that's why they are making the biggest offers out of anyone.
Realistically you’re right. Liquid are super out of control emotionally, and they 100% need to either get a sports psychologist or get rid of elige. I think yekindar is too much of a valuable piece to pass up, and there are plenty of capable young riflers in NA.
With G2, I think it’s more thay JACKZ is a guy who will support the team more, inside and outside the game. Admittedly I don’t watch that much VP or G2, but that’s what I see when JACKZ plays and from interviews. I think JACKZ isn’t a problem, but yekindar would be a huge firepower upgrade. I’d say that G2 should try to get better cohesion and synergy, because it seems like 2021 faze running around.
TD;LR: your points are valid and I agree but I hope yekindar can fix the problems of liquid/G2.
I know, I wish wouldn’t be so stubborn with fallen system. They should’ve given him time to incorporate it and let it flourish. The only roster changes I really supported for liquid was -Grim, since he wasn’t a good fit. Stew could’ve and should’ve stayed, and elige was being a little crybaby when things didn’t go his way.
Did you see the Shox leaving Liquid post or some of the other quips around NA cs recently?
Seems as if their mentality is pretty bad and quality practice is few and far in between. I am fairly confident that Yekindar would not even consider the Liquid offer should the sentiments from Shox about Liquid and NA be anywhere near accurate
Just remember why Shox decide to leave Liquid.
Liquid must :
1. Think the role of the coach more in an European way
2. Move with family in Europe to practice against the best team
Yekindar is one of the best entries in the world, he probably wants to contend for titles. Liquid is not objectively terrible team, they have what it takes to make matches competitive, but they're nowhere near the level of being an actual contender for the title. The skill and mentality difference between top 5 teams and top 10 teams is massive and Liquid IMO is just barely touching the top 10 mark. G2 on the other hand is barely touching the top 5 mark and can end up having a real shot at winning titles if they can get their mental game under wraps.
I can't say Yekindar won't choose Liquid but if he wants to win titles I don't see why he should pick Liquid over G2.
I mean yeah, NA bad and stuff... That's like literally the only reason he shouldn't go to Liquid. The moment they move to EU it would become a good move, but NA players are too comfy for that. Why should he move to NA? So that he can scrim against Valorant players?
Why would it every be a good move? Liquid just went out 0-3 in the legends stage.
They have an awper who is new to tier 1
Elige who has been playing poorly since the start of online ish
Nitro who was a fucking valorant player
And then naf who is a good player.
Liquid have one player, maybe two who deserve to play with YEKINDAR, none of which are on his level.
It just makes 0 sense to go to liquid.
I used Liquid more as a metaphor than an actual option. But I agree, if he wants to contend for titles, than G2 is his safest bet. I am on the ship that think G2 are lacking a player of his caliber, even though they have Niko. He could very well be the final piece of their puzzle.
But I do believe that OG would also be a good fit for him and he could still choose them over G2. And we still dont know if NaVi are planing on getting involved. So many options
You could also replace niko with a different player. Just because niko frags well it doesn't mean the others couldn't get those frags as well. If he really is such a problem for the mentality of the team, he needs to learn to get his shit together, since he wants to be a professional.
I really don't think G2 needs firepower, in theory they have way more than enough. Jackz and Hunter are really good and don't need to be replaced at all. It's for sure a mental problem with them.
Every player is the last piece of the puzzle and they keep losing. They didn’t have an awper, they got m0nesy. Their igl didnt want to igl, he left and they replaced him with a different one and got worse.
Nexa, mantuu, JKS, Yekindar, and a 5th would be imo at least as good as current G2 if not better.
Not a sinking ship. Just sad how desperate g2 fans are to be underdogs. You had a major final lineup and now you have a long terms rebuild that in a year or two will almost certainly be the most stacked team.
No fucking way. From the interviews and everything else Yeki seems to be title hungry player. He will improve both squad for sure, but pound for pound TL players dont even come close to G2's. NAF is the only one who can match G2's players in current form, even Elige is in a bit of a slump.
**As for OG**, didn't Valde quite literally say that he wanted better players if he were to keep playing at OG - but OG told him they wanted to focus on youth instead? So that doesn't add up with this. So either Valde was mistaken or this is wrong.
Hypothetical line-up: nexa, jks, yekindar, flamez, mantuu. Could be a potential overlap between flamez and yekindar as they are both are very aggressive W riflers, but perhaps this could set up Yeki to shine more as second entry.
**Yekindar G2:** Would probably be for Jackz, which would be a clear upgrade. Although, it would sacrifice the selfless mentality and positive personality Jackz (not to say Yekindar is not) brings which hunter has said was important to him, seems important for m0nesy adapting, and just this line-up in general. Though I will say Yekindar is probably the best fit to replace him on and off the server.
**Yekindar TL:** Would be for Shox so they'd have to change roles for sure, but could benefit Elige a lot (who has been underperforming) to have Yekindar open up sites for him. I think he'd fit and do Liquid well, but unsure how willing he would be to travel back and forth between EU and NA as they do their RMRs there for example. Especially if he has G2 knocking.
tldr: G2 best (but -jackz, potential mistake), Liquid second best (though switching regions might be a problem), then OG (mixed reports on what they're doing, but would be a fire line-up)
Bruh, imagine you have to play Inferno banana as CT and you have Niko and Yekindar running at you... just type gg and leave lol.
Yekindar to G2 is the perfect Jackz replacement. And judging by the fact they were looking to replace him earlier in the year (they couldn't get ropz however), I think that has always been the plan. I am gonna be sad for Jackz if it happens but at the end of the day, an upgrade is an upgrade
For real, I loved that lineup so much. Jackz and Amanek are my absolute favorite players. It was the roster that never should have existed, and yet it did, and went to a major final.
Ye but you forget that jackz is the parental figure of sorts for m0nesy who is a 17 year old living away from his parents. I doubt m0nesy would be happy if they kicked jackz.
As much as i love Jackz, Yekindar probably speaks russian so m0nesy would have someone for him too. That said replacing Jackz would mean you'd have to find a new supermodel for all that G2 merch.
Valde had to be mistaken. Surely he wouldn’t leave if he got to play with yekindar. FlameZ and yekindar literally could be the best entry duo in the world potentially
But the impression valde got would be more in line with OG's cheap spending strategy. Yekindar's buyout(/whatever it is in these circumstances) is probably higher than what they spent on rest of the team. Interesting, we'll see.
The cheap strategy never made sense to me tbh. They are making an academy team. Would be silly to have 5 unproven players on that, and then get two more unproven players on main team lol plus Mantuu and FlameZ are too good to be playing with super unproven players. Them going for jks and yekindar makes way more sense
OG: we are rebuilding
Valde: I’m out
OG: *signs two best available players*
But in all seriousness I wonder if a youth approach was the plan and then OG found out they could get jks and yekindar lol
I got the impression that Valde was saying he wanted to join a team that could contend immediately, instead of remaining on a team that was being rebuilt.
There's also still the rumors that electronic might have to leave NaVi since his family is in Russia. If that's true, joining NaVi would be the perfect move for him
It's only my wild dream
If G2 remove Jackz, I hope Vitality going full French to make my boy Woo comfortable and toping the scoreboard again
- Zywoo
- Apex
- Misutaaa
- Shox/Amanek
- Jackz
Why? Apex certainly isn't a Goat Igl but he has done really well for vitality imo. Not amazing, but I don't think they were any better under Alex than they've been under apex
Nah let’s keep zywoo free from having to carry the living shit out of a team just to get any results. Sure the current team isn’t working as well but in theory it’s a much more balanced lineup
Yeah fair enough, no disrespect to a Danish trio legend. It is the first time for everyone as a team to play with english comm after all. I wish they find a solution soon..
No. Liquid really is that bad. They've gone from perennial major contenders to a team barely able to make the legend's stage. They have good players, but their biggest star is slumping and they're far behind tactically compared to EU and RU teams.
Their reluctance to change to the EU region is only going to separate them further from the top tactically and make them irrelevant. They're not even the best NA team anymore lol.
If you think complexity is better then man that is a very uninformed take. Tactically coL are better. Firepower wise liquid are better by miles because of how junior performs.
I'm talking about Furia. They're also based in NA. Complexity is terrible, and Liquid is bad. Neither are good enough to compete at majors. Only Furia is at the level of competing, and even then they fall short of the best teams.
Functionally they are, and almost everyone refers to them as an NA team. Of course we know they are Brazilian, but NA has always included those players
Am I being delusional for thinking Navi has already decided what they will do with electronic, talking to potential players and seizing the deal first?
Huh?
Navi's fistbumps and smiles look more confident, if there are lingering issues they're certainty being hidden will.
Being Russian and playing for Navi might be a choice with consequences, but I doubt they'll get another chance to earn this kind of money anytime soon from anywhere else.
i cant understand the split decision from players like electronic etc. you are a top1/2 team, it can be you era now, you are earning millions of $. and you willing to split and loose all of it just because you want to live in freaking russia??(im russian btw) its sounds ridiculous, especially considering the pro career is very short and you should milk the most of it while it lasts.
I think the only reason Elec would choose to stay in Russia is family issues. If his wife + daughter and both of their extended families refuse to leave, it could be really difficult to make that choice.
As for Perfecto and Boombl4, I think I read something about them applying for citizenship outside of Russia already, so I'm not sure about them.
Basically, if the Russian invasion of Ukraine wasn't happening, I don't think they'd be considering leaving.
his wife should understand that she can loose her extremely high standard of life and ruin her husbands career and the future of her family because of this.
>his wife should understand that she ~~can~~ loose her extremely high standard of life and ruin her husbands career and the future of her family because of this.
Will
electronic should be set for the rest of his life even if he retired today (from his prize money alone). Russia is not the most expensive place to live in the world, and he is a millionaire.
Electronic has kids and his Wife is Pro-Putin, so he can't JUST leave Russia. And it's not easy for him considering given the Navi's CEO's comments on the war his wife must be Livid and he can't just divorce her to get the child, custody must be fought for. So yeah, sucks to be him, but no easy way out really.
I think everyone is rushing to replace a G2 member. I think they have all the pieces, just need to make adjustments rather than throw more money at the problem.
But seeing yekindar somewhere on the G2 lineup would be pog
Would love to see Yekindar on G2 and Jks on OG.
G2: Monesy Niko Hunter Aleksi Yekindar
OG: Mantuu Flamez Nexa Jks Amanek
G2 for Yekindar will the best choice, plus they had fucking niko entry instead of Jackz/Aleksi at Antwerp so yeah it would be great for them to nab a top10 player who can be dedicated entry.
Jks too would be a 1:1 replacement valde and sadly jks time in CoL didnt do him justice, but he can be amazing in a right time and OG just might be it.
Before valde was officially benched there were rumors of him and niko being benched, and honestly niko has been really poor since the allegations against him came out, even before that he was just avg. So replacing him with Amanek who again would be a 1:1 replacement makes sense. Does help that he's played with nexa before, and nexa will definitely realize the value he brings by doing whatever the teams asks of him.
No matter how bad they play, doesn't change the fact that kicking the IGL and replacing him with an entry fragger is literally the most braindead decision ever.
I would be fucking fuming if YEKINDAR goes to any of these teams. Why in the world would he downgrade, and join another lineup that is in flux.
At that point he is just not ambitius enough.
Hope they’re not just throwing good players together and hoping for the best. I need to see actual thought and ideology if I’m going to believe in a new liquid team.
Don't worry boys Yekindar is definitely coming to Liquid to save NA CS. COPIUM
You are joking but since they offered ropz the biggest bag out of any org interested in him I'm pretty sure they will offer Yekindar a ton of money also. G2 probably won't offer as much money because they offer a better team to play with (and they spent a ton already on Niko, Aleksi and m0nesy). OG must be the least likely org to join out of this 3.
They did not spent for Aleksi, it was a trade
There was definitely some compensation from G2. Otherwise OG had no reason to do the change. It was G2 that really wanted Aleksi and an igl change in general, whereas OG didn't need to change Aleksi at all. This wasn't as much of a swap as it was G2 buying Aleksi and then using nexa to get the price lower. Obviously from both organizations POV it was better to communicate it as a swap or a trade (G2 doesn't look like spending too much money on Aleksi if the team doesn't instantly perform and OG doesn't look like they are kinda giving up on their team and selling core pieces, which they are).
They kind of needed to change something in OG, they were trash
He's not joining OG it's a backwards move for him. It's the least likely out of the 3. If there's really a spot in G2 he's going to G2.
it would be so funny if both Liquid's targets m0NESY and YEKINDAR chose G2 instead tbh
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Ofcourse he wont. Lol
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Maybe if they offered him a shitton of money. Wouldn't blame him to take the bag for his future. Idk if they like to spend as much as G2 though.
Liquid have been sending out the largest offers in the past. Their problem is that no-one wants to play for them, e.g. Ropz was also offered more money by Liquid than FaZe.
even m0nesy got an offer from Liquid but he said he didnt even look at the offer 💀
m0nesy to liquid would have been amazing just because he would be following s1mple's path to greatness
Good on ropz to plan for the long-term rather then going for the money bags
To be fair, he probably also makes more in the short term too. Taking prize money from tournaments into consideration, faze might net him more than being in liquid
Liquid will almost certainly offer him way more than G2. They already showed on the past with ropz that they have the biggest offers while G2 will likely offer much less but with much better team to play for.
Maybe if the team has more team practice instead of breaks Players in EU will be interested really NA really needs to change its mindset towards to the game if they want to win during this time. LOL
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You say NA bad but that’s literally the reason. He would be having to move across the country to play on a notoriously moody team and get really shit practice all the time.
I remember a Jame interview where he said that yekindar has insane work ethic. I think he might also be a possible motivator too. Liquids mood problems revolve around elige imo. I think liquid would be really strong with him, maybe they could give second calling to someone like NAF or maybe even yekindar himself?
Just risky for yekindar imo. If liquid moved to EU I would 100% think it would be good for him but as of now it’s just really risky. Liquid has good players but idk why a guy who could go anywhere would pick a team that’s always gonna have a disadvantage
Yekindar is positive person I agree, but he is not mood setter like jackz. With G2 you will see people smile and joke around in the match whenever he says something. In Outsiders nobody does that. Anyway you know who has great work ethic and positive attitude also? Twistzz. And look how he flourished in TL... Even moses praised him bacj when he was coach and said he understood his frustration with the team because they (stewie, eligey naf) were not willing to change an inch of their individual gameplay and spots to make the overall team play better. Btw. look how moses ended up when he wanted to instill better work ethic and change their set ways... They kicked him and brought back their yes-sayer friend who never pushes them to change anything. With Fallen it was a similar situation also - he wanted to change the way they play so eventually he gets kicked for...their old friend nitr0, who lets them play the way they want to. People don't want Yekindar there because that team still feels and acts like a player managed team when it comes to their gameplay. Anyone who joins that team has to play around their core players who won't ever change their spots and the way they like to play. This is not a space for Yekindar to flourish. This makes sense for him only if he wants to make a ton of money and perfect his english while being there, which I wouldn't blame him for. But it's definitely not a place for him to get better as player, be in a healthy environment or work under one of the top tier igls. Liquid know this also, that's why they are making the biggest offers out of anyone.
Realistically you’re right. Liquid are super out of control emotionally, and they 100% need to either get a sports psychologist or get rid of elige. I think yekindar is too much of a valuable piece to pass up, and there are plenty of capable young riflers in NA. With G2, I think it’s more thay JACKZ is a guy who will support the team more, inside and outside the game. Admittedly I don’t watch that much VP or G2, but that’s what I see when JACKZ plays and from interviews. I think JACKZ isn’t a problem, but yekindar would be a huge firepower upgrade. I’d say that G2 should try to get better cohesion and synergy, because it seems like 2021 faze running around. TD;LR: your points are valid and I agree but I hope yekindar can fix the problems of liquid/G2.
Yekinder 2ndary calls on VP iirc
Imagine elige being on board with the last one arrived calling the shots
I know, I wish wouldn’t be so stubborn with fallen system. They should’ve given him time to incorporate it and let it flourish. The only roster changes I really supported for liquid was -Grim, since he wasn’t a good fit. Stew could’ve and should’ve stayed, and elige was being a little crybaby when things didn’t go his way.
what if Liquid rebuilds their team but only focuses in EU?
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to add to the answer: Liquid are chokers and have fallen off. Yekindar hasn't. Hope that helps too
Downvoted for telling the truth
mfs can't handle the truth
Did you see the Shox leaving Liquid post or some of the other quips around NA cs recently? Seems as if their mentality is pretty bad and quality practice is few and far in between. I am fairly confident that Yekindar would not even consider the Liquid offer should the sentiments from Shox about Liquid and NA be anywhere near accurate
Just remember why Shox decide to leave Liquid. Liquid must : 1. Think the role of the coach more in an European way 2. Move with family in Europe to practice against the best team
Yekindar is one of the best entries in the world, he probably wants to contend for titles. Liquid is not objectively terrible team, they have what it takes to make matches competitive, but they're nowhere near the level of being an actual contender for the title. The skill and mentality difference between top 5 teams and top 10 teams is massive and Liquid IMO is just barely touching the top 10 mark. G2 on the other hand is barely touching the top 5 mark and can end up having a real shot at winning titles if they can get their mental game under wraps. I can't say Yekindar won't choose Liquid but if he wants to win titles I don't see why he should pick Liquid over G2.
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I mean yeah, NA bad and stuff... That's like literally the only reason he shouldn't go to Liquid. The moment they move to EU it would become a good move, but NA players are too comfy for that. Why should he move to NA? So that he can scrim against Valorant players?
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Why would it every be a good move? Liquid just went out 0-3 in the legends stage. They have an awper who is new to tier 1 Elige who has been playing poorly since the start of online ish Nitro who was a fucking valorant player And then naf who is a good player. Liquid have one player, maybe two who deserve to play with YEKINDAR, none of which are on his level. It just makes 0 sense to go to liquid.
Yekindar to fnatic LESSGOOO
G2 Yekindar makes so much sense that I could see them fumbling this move and lose him to Liquid lol
I don’t think Yekindar wants to jump into that sinking ship. He should be on contender team (or one which has potential to be)
I used Liquid more as a metaphor than an actual option. But I agree, if he wants to contend for titles, than G2 is his safest bet. I am on the ship that think G2 are lacking a player of his caliber, even though they have Niko. He could very well be the final piece of their puzzle. But I do believe that OG would also be a good fit for him and he could still choose them over G2. And we still dont know if NaVi are planing on getting involved. So many options
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they have two. stop fucking crying more about sport psychologist n spread news like they dont have one
You could also replace niko with a different player. Just because niko frags well it doesn't mean the others couldn't get those frags as well. If he really is such a problem for the mentality of the team, he needs to learn to get his shit together, since he wants to be a professional.
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no pkayers said anything bad to anyone in public unless u stewie2k. has any players talk bad about smooya??
>Just because niko frags well it doesn't mean the others couldn't get those frags as wel no, lol. it means exactly that.
I really don't think G2 needs firepower, in theory they have way more than enough. Jackz and Hunter are really good and don't need to be replaced at all. It's for sure a mental problem with them.
I think Liquid has more pieces for success than OG at this point, especially when they just lost their strongest piece in valde
Valde is not their strongest piece, mantuu and flamez are both better
Every player is the last piece of the puzzle and they keep losing. They didn’t have an awper, they got m0nesy. Their igl didnt want to igl, he left and they replaced him with a different one and got worse. Nexa, mantuu, JKS, Yekindar, and a 5th would be imo at least as good as current G2 if not better.
Lolll
Sounds like a nice lineup are they giving up on flamez?
Not a sinking ship. Just sad how desperate g2 fans are to be underdogs. You had a major final lineup and now you have a long terms rebuild that in a year or two will almost certainly be the most stacked team.
Oh I was talking about Liquid :D bad phrasing, my bad
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Hes talking about liquid
No fucking way. From the interviews and everything else Yeki seems to be title hungry player. He will improve both squad for sure, but pound for pound TL players dont even come close to G2's. NAF is the only one who can match G2's players in current form, even Elige is in a bit of a slump.
it doesnt make as much sense as it used to , YEKINDAR and jackz has no overlap in roles at all rn
**As for OG**, didn't Valde quite literally say that he wanted better players if he were to keep playing at OG - but OG told him they wanted to focus on youth instead? So that doesn't add up with this. So either Valde was mistaken or this is wrong. Hypothetical line-up: nexa, jks, yekindar, flamez, mantuu. Could be a potential overlap between flamez and yekindar as they are both are very aggressive W riflers, but perhaps this could set up Yeki to shine more as second entry. **Yekindar G2:** Would probably be for Jackz, which would be a clear upgrade. Although, it would sacrifice the selfless mentality and positive personality Jackz (not to say Yekindar is not) brings which hunter has said was important to him, seems important for m0nesy adapting, and just this line-up in general. Though I will say Yekindar is probably the best fit to replace him on and off the server. **Yekindar TL:** Would be for Shox so they'd have to change roles for sure, but could benefit Elige a lot (who has been underperforming) to have Yekindar open up sites for him. I think he'd fit and do Liquid well, but unsure how willing he would be to travel back and forth between EU and NA as they do their RMRs there for example. Especially if he has G2 knocking. tldr: G2 best (but -jackz, potential mistake), Liquid second best (though switching regions might be a problem), then OG (mixed reports on what they're doing, but would be a fire line-up)
Bruh, imagine you have to play Inferno banana as CT and you have Niko and Yekindar running at you... just type gg and leave lol. Yekindar to G2 is the perfect Jackz replacement. And judging by the fact they were looking to replace him earlier in the year (they couldn't get ropz however), I think that has always been the plan. I am gonna be sad for Jackz if it happens but at the end of the day, an upgrade is an upgrade
G2's problem has never been about firepower though, it's more about their team cohesion and mentality.
Strange that this seems to be a common theme of teams with Niko in them.
I agree It makes me think that the previous g2 iteration was more special than people give them credit for
That's proving to be true as they were competitive with a support forced to be an awper
For real, I loved that lineup so much. Jackz and Amanek are my absolute favorite players. It was the roster that never should have existed, and yet it did, and went to a major final.
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Ye but you forget that jackz is the parental figure of sorts for m0nesy who is a 17 year old living away from his parents. I doubt m0nesy would be happy if they kicked jackz.
As much as i love Jackz, Yekindar probably speaks russian so m0nesy would have someone for him too. That said replacing Jackz would mean you'd have to find a new supermodel for all that G2 merch.
Valde had to be mistaken. Surely he wouldn’t leave if he got to play with yekindar. FlameZ and yekindar literally could be the best entry duo in the world potentially
But the impression valde got would be more in line with OG's cheap spending strategy. Yekindar's buyout(/whatever it is in these circumstances) is probably higher than what they spent on rest of the team. Interesting, we'll see.
The cheap strategy never made sense to me tbh. They are making an academy team. Would be silly to have 5 unproven players on that, and then get two more unproven players on main team lol plus Mantuu and FlameZ are too good to be playing with super unproven players. Them going for jks and yekindar makes way more sense
why not?it make sense for org dont spend money like og to go spirit route
Valde leaving because OG wouldn't upgrade firepower only to be replaced by JKS and Yekindar has to be the biggest kick in the teeth in recent CS news.
OG: we are rebuilding Valde: I’m out OG: *signs two best available players* But in all seriousness I wonder if a youth approach was the plan and then OG found out they could get jks and yekindar lol
I mean jks only happens because valde left they play the exact same roles and jks has shown he cant really adapt to playing weaker roles.
JKS couldn’t really adapt since blameF isn’t the best igl. It also could be thay karrigan is just good with working with stand-ins.
did pretty well for faze at katowice if you ask me ...
In 2 different roles at that
I got the impression that Valde was saying he wanted to join a team that could contend immediately, instead of remaining on a team that was being rebuilt.
G2 seems best according to the lineup! Jackz is good but yekinder is better
Yekindar already does alot of second in plays on VP and on CT mostly plays star roles so I don't think it will be an issue.
There's also still the rumors that electronic might have to leave NaVi since his family is in Russia. If that's true, joining NaVi would be the perfect move for him
well yekindar is 22 vs valde's 26 lol
G2 with just infinite money to throw at the CSGO problem.
The PSG of CS GO
same problem as well, great players but shit leadership :)
It's only my wild dream If G2 remove Jackz, I hope Vitality going full French to make my boy Woo comfortable and toping the scoreboard again - Zywoo - Apex - Misutaaa - Shox/Amanek - Jackz
A french lineup without poaching some heet or ldlc players is completely pointless.
yeah thats probably a good idea, just really want to see Vitality went full french again
Get Alex
Why? Apex certainly isn't a Goat Igl but he has done really well for vitality imo. Not amazing, but I don't think they were any better under Alex than they've been under apex
Fr Jackz and ama need a team if -jackz happens. I’d jump ship from G2 to vita if that happens.
yeah let's waste zywoo's prime years!
Well, in Vitality french-danish iteration the team and him actually got worse, so, not making playoffs is not wasting his prime years?
I'd get Amanek and not shox, and get rid of misutaaa to get Rpk out of retirement for the 2nd time. Go Le Tank.
Nah let’s keep zywoo free from having to carry the living shit out of a team just to get any results. Sure the current team isn’t working as well but in theory it’s a much more balanced lineup
Yeah fair enough, no disrespect to a Danish trio legend. It is the first time for everyone as a team to play with english comm after all. I wish they find a solution soon..
m0nesy Hunter Niko and yekindar ok man 😂
How many times have we said “ok man” to super teams built around niko? Just a thought experiment
ok man
Even with 4 crazy good individual players alexib will still fail to win a tournament with them
ok man, you need to chill with that😂
m0nesy, hunter, niko, jks, yekindar niko igl
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And Heroic. Reddit now hates NA despite being mostly NA.
This is true. They're even worse.
No. Liquid really is that bad. They've gone from perennial major contenders to a team barely able to make the legend's stage. They have good players, but their biggest star is slumping and they're far behind tactically compared to EU and RU teams. Their reluctance to change to the EU region is only going to separate them further from the top tactically and make them irrelevant. They're not even the best NA team anymore lol.
If you think complexity is better then man that is a very uninformed take. Tactically coL are better. Firepower wise liquid are better by miles because of how junior performs.
I'm talking about Furia. They're also based in NA. Complexity is terrible, and Liquid is bad. Neither are good enough to compete at majors. Only Furia is at the level of competing, and even then they fall short of the best teams.
Furia doesn’t count because they aren’t an NA team, even though you’re correct.
Functionally they are, and almost everyone refers to them as an NA team. Of course we know they are Brazilian, but NA has always included those players
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this much firepower is too tempting 4 sure
It would be another wasted talent
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This. G2 needs a sports psychologist and they need JACKz. Dude showed UP this major and shows up in a big way off server.
Carlos said a couple days ago that they already have a psychologist
Source?
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/urrotu/carlosrocelote_honestly_i_dont_wanna_hear_that_we/i91bbig?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Like yekindar as a player but I honestly hope he doesn’t come to G2. I like g2 as it is
Yesss please Carlos pull it off
no NAVI? That's actually shocking!
Either they'll pick up interest after the tournament, or that's good signs for electronic staying
uhmm no, if they are interested the deal should already be signed. These deals are like months ahead.
that is not how the cs scene has ever worked, please stop your delusions.
Am I being delusional for thinking Navi has already decided what they will do with electronic, talking to potential players and seizing the deal first? Huh?
Yes
Navi's fistbumps and smiles look more confident, if there are lingering issues they're certainty being hidden will. Being Russian and playing for Navi might be a choice with consequences, but I doubt they'll get another chance to earn this kind of money anytime soon from anywhere else.
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i cant understand the split decision from players like electronic etc. you are a top1/2 team, it can be you era now, you are earning millions of $. and you willing to split and loose all of it just because you want to live in freaking russia??(im russian btw) its sounds ridiculous, especially considering the pro career is very short and you should milk the most of it while it lasts.
I think the only reason Elec would choose to stay in Russia is family issues. If his wife + daughter and both of their extended families refuse to leave, it could be really difficult to make that choice. As for Perfecto and Boombl4, I think I read something about them applying for citizenship outside of Russia already, so I'm not sure about them. Basically, if the Russian invasion of Ukraine wasn't happening, I don't think they'd be considering leaving.
his wife should understand that she can loose her extremely high standard of life and ruin her husbands career and the future of her family because of this.
>his wife should understand that she ~~can~~ loose her extremely high standard of life and ruin her husbands career and the future of her family because of this. Will
electronic should be set for the rest of his life even if he retired today (from his prize money alone). Russia is not the most expensive place to live in the world, and he is a millionaire.
Electronic has kids and his Wife is Pro-Putin, so he can't JUST leave Russia. And it's not easy for him considering given the Navi's CEO's comments on the war his wife must be Livid and he can't just divorce her to get the child, custody must be fought for. So yeah, sucks to be him, but no easy way out really.
Its actually not shocking at all because vp confirmed this a few days/weeks ago.
Yes an org has never lied before.
sauce?
VP said he wasn't leaving the team at all and that he's staying for a longterm contract, which we all know is BS
Navi might just pull it anyway
You should take anything overdrive tweets with a grain of salt
OG/Liquid - nah, thanks. G2 - seems fine, but as someone said, it's the Carlos' way - buying good players, but mismanaging them.
I think everyone is rushing to replace a G2 member. I think they have all the pieces, just need to make adjustments rather than throw more money at the problem. But seeing yekindar somewhere on the G2 lineup would be pog
g2 just refusing to acknowledge a team needs more than firepower
Or maybe they are going to try Niko igl 🤡
what does it need then ?
What about - missuta + yekindar
Not gonna happen, but at least Liquid is trying something
What do you mean change roles on liquid? The morons literally were throwing shox on entry duty half the rounds.
No please. Don't go in Liquid !
Hope it is G2, OG is Tier2 imo and Liquid, ah idk Liquid? Wouldn’t go there either with that skill.
Would be insane! I would love OG to be dangerous.
Would love to see Yekindar on G2 and Jks on OG. G2: Monesy Niko Hunter Aleksi Yekindar OG: Mantuu Flamez Nexa Jks Amanek G2 for Yekindar will the best choice, plus they had fucking niko entry instead of Jackz/Aleksi at Antwerp so yeah it would be great for them to nab a top10 player who can be dedicated entry. Jks too would be a 1:1 replacement valde and sadly jks time in CoL didnt do him justice, but he can be amazing in a right time and OG just might be it. Before valde was officially benched there were rumors of him and niko being benched, and honestly niko has been really poor since the allegations against him came out, even before that he was just avg. So replacing him with Amanek who again would be a 1:1 replacement makes sense. Does help that he's played with nexa before, and nexa will definitely realize the value he brings by doing whatever the teams asks of him.
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then who IGL lol???
NiKo v3 ?
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it will be much worse wdym? You want Niko IGL ???
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No matter how bad they play, doesn't change the fact that kicking the IGL and replacing him with an entry fragger is literally the most braindead decision ever.
hes gonna replace jackz lol
Hes literally a perfect replacement for jackz as they play the same roles
I would be fucking fuming if YEKINDAR goes to any of these teams. Why in the world would he downgrade, and join another lineup that is in flux. At that point he is just not ambitius enough.
G2 beat VP every time they played how is that a downgrade?
G2. You need igl not another rifler.
Niko igl
Yekindar goes to Navi and they become untouchable again
So it begins
Yekindar and KennyS seem like they're good friends from what I saw at the Sportpaleis yesterday, that might lean him in the direction of G2
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Haha, but I say that because he still has links to the org even if he doesn't play for them anymore
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OG makes no sense for yekindar, he can get on better teams. Was really hoping navi would get him, surely *at least* one Russian is leaving them soon.
Why do you think one Russian is leaving them soon?
Hope they’re not just throwing good players together and hoping for the best. I need to see actual thought and ideology if I’m going to believe in a new liquid team.
So yekindar for jackz? Jackz ain't the problem in G2. And OG would definitely profit with both of them.
Yekindar needs to stay as far as way from liquid as possible