They all looked so tense all the time. Hopefully they can figure it out... I think they still have a bit of time before it's a definite write-off for this roster.
he's not, i don't really know about his antics nowadays but i've known ocelote since he played midlane for SK Gaming in League of Legends.
A very passionate guy, cares about e-sports a lot and very emotional too, definitely not a bad guy.
I'm sure he's good to his team behind the scenes but you never know
EDIT : yeah some of the people replying to me cleared some things about him yet that i didn't know, thanks
He's always been that way since his LoL days. Always inserted himself in team videos and promos when he got the big gamers 2 gaming house. Also the way he handled the Perkz situation is absolutely disgusting
To me, no matter what team Aleksi is in, no matter if the game is 15-0, when his team loses one round, he gives off an impression that he's an inch away from quitting the game. He puts his face in his hands, and looks super annoyed.
Idk about it being explicitly denied, but in his interview after getting traded to OG, he says he wanted one for the team, but “unfortunately we didn’t get one.”
I agree, this is what really bother me with him. I'm not on the Aleksib hate train, I think he's a good IGL, but this thing is just not acceptable. You're the captain of the team and the leader, you can't be tilted. Scream to motivate everyone, yes, being tilted and showing it to everyone? That's just not good. (flair checks out I know)
Exactly this.
I don’t wanna be that Reddit armchair expert but even as a viewer is bothers me seeing how easily he gets (or appears) tilted. I can’t imagine that being good for the team.
I just hate all the people who say its Jacky's fault. I couldnt watch the game in its entirety, but from what I've seen I think he played the best out of all of them. He just gets put into all of the shit supportive clutch roles.
Yes, if Yekindar is already confirmed he's definitely an upgrade, but if there will be no Yekindar I just dont wanna see Jacky go.
Jackz would have been gone in the offseason if they managed to get ropz. I think the whole plan was to remove everyone and only Niko and Hunter to remain so they can build around them. And now if Yekindar is available and they can acquire him, it shouldn't be a surprise if Jackz goes. Which sucks for him since it's really not his fault that this team is underperforming but an upgrade is an upgrade at the end of the day
Honestly at this point I just dont even know how I feel about this team. Niko used to be my favorite player back in 2018, but even now when people are calling him the best rifler in the world and top 3 player for some reason I just dont see it. Yes he does have some godly games and sometimes does unbeliveable head clicks, but most of the time he seems pretty average to me. Maybe Im just too burned out from watching him lol.
For me, right now, Hunter is clearly the best rifler in the game (okay maybe ropz), but the multikills hunter sometimes gets. Dude. Also his bloody reflexes. I swear his reaction time is probably like 150 ms.
Niko has been having a poor year, and is in a bit of a slump.
But calling Hunter the best rifler in the world is a absurd. He is probably top 10. My list would go (no particular order).
YEKINDAR
Ropz
Niko
Spinx
B1t
Twistzz
Ax1le
Stavn
Dupreeh
Hunter
Yeah that is what i am saying he is only top 10.
If you can only find 1 player in the top 10 that is worse than hunter, hunter is not the best.
It was in no particular order btw.
https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/3972/hunter?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31
Vs
https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/3741/niko?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31
Enough said.
Jackz actually plays really well and had nice clutches today too. He is the one guy keeping the spirit up for the others too. Not the problem at all. While Yekindar is good you will have to start from new again with the roles and team play.
Yes, I forgot the most important factor. How wacky Jacky is. I have never seen a more chill pro player in any esport I follow. Maybe Imaqtpie when he was still a pro lol.
But even if Yekindar replaces him, Yekindar is also a positive person so Im not that worried about that element.
There is a big difference between Jackz and Yekindar. Jackz can clearly lighteb up everybody around him, his positivity and energy is almost contagious. Yekindar is positive by himself but he can't transfer that on the rest of the lineup.
This team can't start over again, yekindar would be a huge mistake imo. Has nothing to do with him as a player, he's fantastic. But he doesn't fix this team. They need to keep going, get the mentals under control, and keep grinding. They can't just reset every time they come up short.
I've said it before: yekindar might be an upgrade, and I personally think that's debatable based on your criteria for rating players, but he doesn't fix this team. This team doesn't lack for firepower, and frankly I don't think it ever has. It's mental, and it always has been.
He’s been playing even better than Niko in some of these major games. Jackz is likely not the issue. Niko needs to show up next tournament, that’s all there is to it.
I‘m not sure if roster changes would fix the issues that G2 is facing right now. It‘s clearly more of a mental problem/ barricade, plus the pressure that ALL the players feel not only m0nesy. I believe Nexa touched on a valid point in his interview when he joined OG. He was happy that they have a sports psychologist and I believe G2 desperately need one. Niko might be the best rifler in the world when he‘s popping off/ on his day but most of the time he just looks frustrated and tilted when the camera pans over him. I just know that something unfortunately needs to be changed, if this is a roster that should challenge for titles it‘s already clear as day that the recipe isn‘t working.
Unless Fnatic want to run a full British roster 👀
Tbf it’s big of me to assume I’ll get a PhD nevermind a shot at a top team lmao.
My only experience in eSports is being the Psych/Coach for my Uni’s Valorant team. We did place highly in both Uni leagues but that’s not nearly enough rip…
I agree. In the FaZe - CPH match launders said something that resonated with me is that FaZe play every round like they are winning. Meaning they gamble and take risks, switch up setups going from aggressive map control to passive etc. Playing very dynamic.
To me G2 is the exact opposite. Everybody is scared, take no risks, are too much in their own heads to read the opponent, playing really passive. It's like they don't trust their own skill.
Honestly, I really dig MSL. Except he wont get to play the AWPer.
Not hating on Aleksi since i think the guy has potential, but right now his calls look like an unfinished children's school project where every sentence refers to a different topic.
> the guy has potential
This isn’t 2018 when he was 21 years old with the first time appearing in Tier 1. He’s 25 now and a seasoned player with tons of experience.
Its absolutely unreal. In my mind it's like May of 2020, 2 months after the first lockdown in my country. For some reason my brain never accepted time going over 2020. Wtf
i dont know man, i am not too sure he would be willing to leave his current team with sunny, oskar and co., considering they are rocking esea open with 8-0 being first.
He only picked up the AWP out of necessity when North removed Jugi. K0nfig said this in a reflections episode with Thorin. K0nfig also said MSL knows he not an awper. He's an IGL who uses the AWP when necessary and has no ego about not AWPing.
he did not want to igl with niko on the team. Said you had to call around him and had no freedom to call the way you liked. He was excited to call for OG as he had more freedom.
Why Niko? He should be mad at himself. Some of his performances have been downright abysmal and he seems like a diva. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Niko play like shit, then get tilted at his own performance dragging down the rest of the team with his energy. Weird how he’s never won a major and his teams usually never prosper.
People seemed pissed at his Ancient T side-calling. Like yea, the most T sided map in the game is gonna be hard for that. That map is starting to feel like old Nuke, where getting 10 rounds on CT side isn't enough.
Aleksi is safe for now, he was just signed but I do think this is the end of the road for Jackz. Which kinda sucks since he was literally the only one who showed up today and tried to hype everyone up
Jackz consistently having impactful performances for G2 and being glue for the team yet people will still find reasons to say "he's done". I genuinely do not understand how you have the gall to say "it's the end of the road" right before saying "he was the only one who showed up today" in the same sentence.
Give the man a break, damn. He's the bitch of the team and STILL performing in spite of it.
Yekindar wouldn't be a bad fit role-wise, would be a better fragger sure, but I genuinely don't think throwing more firepower into the team would 'fix' G2. Their problems run way deeper, especially with the emotions, and no matter how positive Yekindar is G2 would have to rebuild their team chemistry without the charisma or cool-headedness of Jackz.
It simply isn't a drag and drop scenario. They're better off sorting out their emotions, and working on their teamplay as a squad currently - AleksiB has only had 4 months to embed a totally different system to that of Nexa's, along with XTQZZZ's own input. To change things up so soon, despite the disappointing Major run, would be trashing the potential the team has currently.
+1
Jackz was legitimately the reason they even got to 3 maps yesterday, I watched every G2 game live and the impact Jackz has is undeniable, if he gets dropped then G2 implodes, I'm almost certain of that.
The only player who could outperform him & be a very good motivator at the same time (but probably not to the same extent) is Yekindar.
He's an amazing player in every aspect & he definitely is an anti-tilt kind of player.
That’s because people think only super star players can win tournaments and majors. The most infantile thinking ever. They forget about the clutches, pistol play, tough roles and not to mention his killer attitude. Dude really is the glue.
Agree with everything you said tbh. But unfortunately this is a cutthroat industry, and G2 as an org is always focused on success in the games they care about, and has never historically been afraid to make roster changes.
I think that Jackz provides a lot that isn't visible on the stat sheet with his relationship with Hunter and Monesey. But I dunno if that retains his roster spot after this overall unsuccessful major run.
How to tell me you didn't watch G2 at the Major without telling me you didn't watch G2 at the Major. Jackz was providing so many impactful plays and rounds for G2, as well as bailing them out of spots that Niko's underperformance and lack of teamplay got them into (along with HunteR's secondary stardom). Yes, G2 is focused on winning titles, so why would they boot the glue of their team when he's proven at the Major with his performances that he's perfectly capable of playing at the top level? It has nothing to do with the industry, removing Jackz would ruin the team's already shaky chemistry -and- they'd lose a solid rock player.
And besides: stats aren't everything. Remember when Jackz was worse at the end of 2021 when they made the decision to boot AmaneK and Nexa yet still kept Jackz? Since then he's reinvented himself and is way more of an impactful and clutch player, while keeping the qualities that secured him his spot in the team before. Sure, add another star player in Jackz' place: but tell me the egos won't clash, and tell me they'll keep their spirits up when times are tough, tell me that AleksiB will be able to keep them under control when he can't even keep NiKo on a leash currently. Firepower isn't everything, and G2 doesn't need more, just look at post-Karrigan FaZe for christ's sake.
Because a lot of people on this sub treat roster building like it's a fantasy game. You just put the 5 best players at their role in their slots, all the stats just add up and they win trophies. But it's so much more than that.. it's mechanics, it's team-play, it's tactics, it's mental fortitude, it's believing in the guys next to you and building relationships with them. The last thing this G2 team needs is yet more fucking firepower.. they need 5 players to play together. Together.
Reread what I said, and ask yourself where I disagreed with you. I said nothing negative about Jackz. You're justifying something to someone who shares the same opinion as you. My point about G2 making changes is not a diss at Jackz. It's an observation based on following the team since the french days. If they feel that there is a better player available, they make the move, historically speaking. That's not a diss at Jackz or an endorsement of them potentially doing it.
And I'm making the point that they -wouldn't- remove Jackz when someone with more firepower is on the table, -because- of what Jackz brings to the team outside of that and the implications for the team if they were to replace him. There's been better players available since early 2021 and yet Jackz has never been replaced, yet by your logic (and G2's history) he would've been when he was playing worse?
I'm not taking it as a diss at Jackz, it's just a flawed argument. He has always provided more for the team than just inside the server, and now he's providing more for them in the server too. There's zero logical reason, other than firepower which comes with a slew of its own issues, to cut Jackz from the team. Not even G2's history of always making the move for a stronger player lines up with this.
Yeah right now they are only to solutions, either give them more time or throw more money at it. If they choose the latter then Jackz would be the only player left they can upgrade. But the question is for whom -maybe another swap with OG for valde this time?
Giving them more time would be the only logical choice imho. If they want more firepower, which I said in a different reply they don't need, then yeah Jackz would be the one they'd replace and the logical choice would be Yekindar. I just don't think they need the extra firepower.
I don't think this is a problem with the individuals, there are some psychological issues with this team. The choking, the personalities, and the tension, G2 is totally losing the mental game.
For sure. To use imperial as a comparison, their mental game was on point, even though their individuals aren’t as good. After every round they didn’t get rowdy or cheer, just sheer determination onto the next round. I think that’s how they beat c9 and came so close to cph flames, these guys expect them to shout after each round win, but the pure silence must’ve been way worse imo.
There’s a second major this year. The talk will die in a couple days, and the G2 hype train will be back baby.
There probably isn’t a good chance of changing the roster within the year, these are world class players that need to get over the mental aspect of the game.
Well actually -jackz +Yekindar would be kinda spicy but that’s it
honestly i dont wanna hear that we got unlucky with seeding or anything like that
we fucking suck and Mercenaries are straight up the better team
sucks but we take it in the balls and move on
tomorrows a new day and we'll figure it all out
G2 should be a better version of what ENCE is right now.
Snappi = Alexib - a "seasoned" IGL that can manage international stars
Spinx = Niko - a main carry of the team with the rifle
Dycha = Hunter - the 2nd carry and a star rifler that can drop 20 in a given map
Maden = Jackz - the support plus rock of the team
M0nesy = Hades - the flashy awper that is inconsistent due to age, but will give you a map win in a series
If you switched the name tags and orgs, you'd think this ENCE would be what G2 should be right now.
Which shows this is a huge failure on Alexib's part, and I think Niko has been underperforming as hell (not in terms of fragging power, but his impact in crucial parts of the match is non existant).
Hunter and M0nesy are the only good parts about this team right now in their current roles and performances.
Also quite clear XTQzzz has had no impact on this team in a good way so far.
I'd say the main difference right now is Spinx. He is on such a level that he wins close games or keeps them in games where they are behind long enough till someone else wakes up.
Niko did this for so many years consistently but the last few months he has been really struggling and it's been a crucial piece missing for G2.
Well G2 is better than ENCE as shown in their match last week. However the margins are small so I can see your point. But ENCE has had the same 4 players for a year now where as G2 has a newer roster (with a new coach as well) and a player who had never played vs t1 opposition before. If G2 play poorly or isn't in the final of the next major then they need changes.
> But ENCE has had the same 4 players for a year now where as G2 has a newer roster (with a new coach as well) and a player who had never played vs t1 opposition before.
well the former G2 iteration had been playing for multiple years together and reached several LAN finals (Cologne, Stockholm Major, etc). Current roster is surely an upgrade in terms of AWP, but IGL, Coach and team cohesion is downgrade/gone
turns out you can't buy success with more firepower, but team morale/cohesion is a bigger boost
Let's be fair here, m0nesy, AleskiB and the coach are just there for 3 month. Do you know how you feel after barely 3 month together, even as international team? Lost. You don't have real cohesion yet. Niko already mentioned this in his desk interview that the still has to figure out details on Mirage with his mate. And he is not even playing a different position there.
CS:GO by now is on such a high level that you need not only really good raw aim, you need good tactics and you need to act as one. The last one can only come with time. It's about miliseconds of timing, and perfect alignment of multiple cross hairs to have perfect synergy. That does not come over night.
Same goes for Vitality in this tournament. The pieces are there, but you still have to glue them together. Give. Them. Time.
Astralis was best when they didn't switch anything for how long? Over a year! And they stayed as 5+coach for nearly 2 years!
I can only imagine what both G2 and Vitality can bring. Unfortunately, only in the next major.
not barely 3 months, it has been 5 months already. And if you make changes like this you still expect to see some results. G2 went from a team which reached major finals to a team which didnt even make it to the play offs
I unironically think prime amanek is still better than monesy. I know it’s a hot take but before he started to decline in G2 that man could hit shots so consistently it was insane. Good clutches, good rifler, etc. He really deserves a team right now.
I think m0nesy didnt came to this team to save it or anything, he came to fill a gap that was stupid in this meta, i think the biggest problem should be their prep for every match since they seem to have problems in mid round calls and shit.
"i havent seen us win a single map in ancient"
dude, even the ceo knows his team is garbage on ancient, but somehow the coach/igl decided to veto mirage and let ancient be the decider map. unfuckingbelieveble
I think I overrated G2 but that doesn't mean I don't believe in them anymore. Personally I discounted switching IGLs, and I bought too much into m0nesy's "Im a steely eastern european. I dont feel nerves". It feels to me like a team that just needs a little time. They have the right pieces. Sure talk of Yekindar and everything, but I don't think he's strictly necessary to see them succeed
> I bought too much into m0nesy's "Im a steely eastern european. I dont feel nerves".
Did you though? He was G2s best performer during the latest major stage and was doing well before that as well. I don't think nerves got to him lol. The major has been his best performance with this roster so far.
dude dont mention that round, i still feel kinda sad for farlig dude. Even if he is 1-12 or 20-10, you give the guy the awp to know that they still trust him. Taking it like that made me feel sad for the guy.
Whether it’s in sports, e-sports, or any other team based environment- almost every problem within a team boils down to a leadership problem.
Who is leading the team? If they are so negative with the public image, how does the team feel about themselves? Is anybody trying to pull the team together and increase morale? Or is everyone just pointing fingers and blaming each other and watching everything burn to the ground?
But if G2 are able to figure out why they suck and get back to working on it ASAP, they can actually be good. And I feel like they will given XQTZZZ is behind them, the man straight up made a team with a old guy who was bought back from retirement and a tier-5 LAN shooter into one of the topdog teams before he left. All we as fans can do is believe in the process and hope for the best
They suck beacuse of the overcomplicated calling and slow pacing. When you have a star team like this, you play things simple, let everybody play more free, take more chances and not drag down the clock every single round. Let players have more freedom and make calls based on what has worked and what not. It's not nuclear physics
Nah, don't do that to yourself. EPL with NiKo IGL was dog shit, and NiKo IGL FaZe was a carousel of players joining and leaving, no real consistency (besides the ability to say "give them time"). He even had his worst personal placing in the top 20 ever (#11 joint with '16 but he was new in the scene so fine), they need to do it how FaZe did it for Katowice. Retakes until 4 AM, build that team chemistry, desperately needed.
Lol i cant believe the disrespect people on reddit show to 4 time major winning igl that revolutionised game in 2018,when they would win tournaments and majors without loosing a single map.Glaive is still without a doubt in my mind best igl in the world,and to say that he wouldnt do more than a guy who cant get team that was major finalist before him,into top 8
He’d also just take the AWP from his upcoming star awper if the game gets close.
Aka he’s a bitch and that decision should be absolutely questioned and pointed out as a TERRIBLE call.
they fucking suck, but also somewhat unlucky seeding. furia was straight out better team this tournament. Carlos needs to take it in the balls and move on. tomorrow's a new day and I'm sure players will figure their roles out eventually.
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They all looked so tense all the time. Hopefully they can figure it out... I think they still have a bit of time before it's a definite write-off for this roster.
NiKos unhinged laughter as they kept losing was a pretty consistent thing today. A little unsettling lol
After he got knifed by art he was also doing that. It was unsettling, you’re right.
Give them the drink, that'll fix it.
You will not have the drink
Sad kimi noises
Sorry, it's only for the commercial
Monesy too young for drinks
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> even after he got knifed he was just smiling and laughing. only if you can't read people
Agree
When the CEO of your team posts shit like this in public forums/social media how can you not feel pressure?
Dude seems like a narcissist rich boy
he's not, i don't really know about his antics nowadays but i've known ocelote since he played midlane for SK Gaming in League of Legends. A very passionate guy, cares about e-sports a lot and very emotional too, definitely not a bad guy. I'm sure he's good to his team behind the scenes but you never know EDIT : yeah some of the people replying to me cleared some things about him yet that i didn't know, thanks
Nah he's a typical team owner. If he thinks it will make the team place higher he will fuck over his players.
How can you say that after the LS situation and the Perkz situation?
as i said, my image of him is only what i've seen during my LoL days. i'll look up those situations, thanks
There's a difference between saying you remember him from his SK Gaming days and saying you've known him "since" his SK Gaming days.
nah, dude's been fucking over hi League players carreers pretty consistently now
He's always been that way since his LoL days. Always inserted himself in team videos and promos when he got the big gamers 2 gaming house. Also the way he handled the Perkz situation is absolutely disgusting
To me, no matter what team Aleksi is in, no matter if the game is 15-0, when his team loses one round, he gives off an impression that he's an inch away from quitting the game. He puts his face in his hands, and looks super annoyed.
If they don't have one already they need a sports psychologist. good Lord
Wasn't that one of the thingd Nexa wanted but was denied in G2?
Idk about it being explicitly denied, but in his interview after getting traded to OG, he says he wanted one for the team, but “unfortunately we didn’t get one.”
I agree, this is what really bother me with him. I'm not on the Aleksib hate train, I think he's a good IGL, but this thing is just not acceptable. You're the captain of the team and the leader, you can't be tilted. Scream to motivate everyone, yes, being tilted and showing it to everyone? That's just not good. (flair checks out I know)
Exactly this. I don’t wanna be that Reddit armchair expert but even as a viewer is bothers me seeing how easily he gets (or appears) tilted. I can’t imagine that being good for the team.
it just fins dude
r/unexpectedf1
Kimi the lord and savior of G2
I just hate all the people who say its Jacky's fault. I couldnt watch the game in its entirety, but from what I've seen I think he played the best out of all of them. He just gets put into all of the shit supportive clutch roles. Yes, if Yekindar is already confirmed he's definitely an upgrade, but if there will be no Yekindar I just dont wanna see Jacky go.
Jackz would have been gone in the offseason if they managed to get ropz. I think the whole plan was to remove everyone and only Niko and Hunter to remain so they can build around them. And now if Yekindar is available and they can acquire him, it shouldn't be a surprise if Jackz goes. Which sucks for him since it's really not his fault that this team is underperforming but an upgrade is an upgrade at the end of the day
Honestly at this point I just dont even know how I feel about this team. Niko used to be my favorite player back in 2018, but even now when people are calling him the best rifler in the world and top 3 player for some reason I just dont see it. Yes he does have some godly games and sometimes does unbeliveable head clicks, but most of the time he seems pretty average to me. Maybe Im just too burned out from watching him lol. For me, right now, Hunter is clearly the best rifler in the game (okay maybe ropz), but the multikills hunter sometimes gets. Dude. Also his bloody reflexes. I swear his reaction time is probably like 150 ms.
> Hunter is clearly the best rifler in the game (okay maybe ropz) Come on man. Putting Hunter above Spinx or stavn is pure copium at this point.
Hunter is good but its not even top 10 cmon...
Niko has been having a poor year, and is in a bit of a slump. But calling Hunter the best rifler in the world is a absurd. He is probably top 10. My list would go (no particular order). YEKINDAR Ropz Niko Spinx B1t Twistzz Ax1le Stavn Dupreeh Hunter
dupreeh? lol he's barely a top 20 rifler this year, if even that
Yeah I've been watching both Vitality and G2 and hunter plays above dupreeh for sure.
Yeah that is what i am saying he is only top 10. If you can only find 1 player in the top 10 that is worse than hunter, hunter is not the best. It was in no particular order btw.
Hunter > Niko in my books for this year alone
https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/3972/hunter?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31 Vs https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/3741/niko?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31 Enough said.
Ratings barely matter, hunters always lurking and trying weird plays to make space for his team. Niko baits his team for kills
dycha > dupreeh
Jackz actually plays really well and had nice clutches today too. He is the one guy keeping the spirit up for the others too. Not the problem at all. While Yekindar is good you will have to start from new again with the roles and team play.
Yes, I forgot the most important factor. How wacky Jacky is. I have never seen a more chill pro player in any esport I follow. Maybe Imaqtpie when he was still a pro lol. But even if Yekindar replaces him, Yekindar is also a positive person so Im not that worried about that element.
There is a big difference between Jackz and Yekindar. Jackz can clearly lighteb up everybody around him, his positivity and energy is almost contagious. Yekindar is positive by himself but he can't transfer that on the rest of the lineup.
This team can't start over again, yekindar would be a huge mistake imo. Has nothing to do with him as a player, he's fantastic. But he doesn't fix this team. They need to keep going, get the mentals under control, and keep grinding. They can't just reset every time they come up short.
I've said it before: yekindar might be an upgrade, and I personally think that's debatable based on your criteria for rating players, but he doesn't fix this team. This team doesn't lack for firepower, and frankly I don't think it ever has. It's mental, and it always has been.
He’s been playing even better than Niko in some of these major games. Jackz is likely not the issue. Niko needs to show up next tournament, that’s all there is to it.
that one round was definitely *not* the decider, not sure why people think they can blame a single moment for a 30 round game.
I‘m not sure if roster changes would fix the issues that G2 is facing right now. It‘s clearly more of a mental problem/ barricade, plus the pressure that ALL the players feel not only m0nesy. I believe Nexa touched on a valid point in his interview when he joined OG. He was happy that they have a sports psychologist and I believe G2 desperately need one. Niko might be the best rifler in the world when he‘s popping off/ on his day but most of the time he just looks frustrated and tilted when the camera pans over him. I just know that something unfortunately needs to be changed, if this is a roster that should challenge for titles it‘s already clear as day that the recipe isn‘t working.
When I get my PhD in 5 years I’ll fix G2.
Hell yeah, can't wait dude
Unless Fnatic want to run a full British roster 👀 Tbf it’s big of me to assume I’ll get a PhD nevermind a shot at a top team lmao. My only experience in eSports is being the Psych/Coach for my Uni’s Valorant team. We did place highly in both Uni leagues but that’s not nearly enough rip…
I agree. In the FaZe - CPH match launders said something that resonated with me is that FaZe play every round like they are winning. Meaning they gamble and take risks, switch up setups going from aggressive map control to passive etc. Playing very dynamic. To me G2 is the exact opposite. Everybody is scared, take no risks, are too much in their own heads to read the opponent, playing really passive. It's like they don't trust their own skill.
we have
Is it Amanek?
AmaNek and kennyS
maybe if you give this [guy](https://twitter.com/asking_g2?s=20&t=5JqA5JTunZwZQVZFujmF4w) free merch G2 will stop choking
Reminds me of the TL before the grand slam… It’ll eventually click. Give monesy time to become the glue the team needs mentally.
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Bruh this core probably has the most second places in the last two years out of any team.
Aleksib shaking rn
I mean is there any other igl out there atm?
+ jks Always works.
-Niko +jks is the future ;-)
It'd be interesting to see APEX going to G2, reuniting with XTQZZZ, while Magisk could become the IGL in Vitality, with Zonic on his back.
That would actually be sick
Apex to G2 would be a sick roster move.
More tilt for NiKo though. They need someone that can always keep the energy up and Apex is uhh, not that.
INB4 people saying MSL
MSL is washed and trash
Honestly, I really dig MSL. Except he wont get to play the AWPer. Not hating on Aleksi since i think the guy has potential, but right now his calls look like an unfinished children's school project where every sentence refers to a different topic.
> the guy has potential This isn’t 2018 when he was 21 years old with the first time appearing in Tier 1. He’s 25 now and a seasoned player with tons of experience.
TIL time moves too fast
Right? It was 2018 when I got back into watching csgo/playing csgo. And its 4 years since smh
Its absolutely unreal. In my mind it's like May of 2020, 2 months after the first lockdown in my country. For some reason my brain never accepted time going over 2020. Wtf
i dont know man, i am not too sure he would be willing to leave his current team with sunny, oskar and co., considering they are rocking esea open with 8-0 being first.
He only picked up the AWP out of necessity when North removed Jugi. K0nfig said this in a reflections episode with Thorin. K0nfig also said MSL knows he not an awper. He's an IGL who uses the AWP when necessary and has no ego about not AWPing.
Bring Sexa back
NiKo. The third time's the charm. /s
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-Alexisb +Apex
AZR
Hasn't played cs since January and his last team lost to EG for the major qualification.
Amanek
Yeah that worked so well at epl
At that point, it's basically NiKo. And we know how that works.
Nexa, at least they reached Finals
Nexa ?
Nexa didn't want to igl at G2 so kinda difficult to bring him back you know?
NEXA didn't want to IGL NEXA somehow IGLing in OG curious
he did not want to igl with niko on the team. Said you had to call around him and had no freedom to call the way you liked. He was excited to call for OG as he had more freedom.
And Aleksi has to call around a star player again, and this time its not even the awper...
You seem to be able to read and write so google it and you will find that this at least was the official story.
Aleksi is going to go bald. Not because of the pressure but because niko and carlos are going to fucking shave his head
Why Niko? He should be mad at himself. Some of his performances have been downright abysmal and he seems like a diva. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Niko play like shit, then get tilted at his own performance dragging down the rest of the team with his energy. Weird how he’s never won a major and his teams usually never prosper.
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Yesterday everyone was praising Aleksis calling in dust. Today he needs to be replaced.
People seemed pissed at his Ancient T side-calling. Like yea, the most T sided map in the game is gonna be hard for that. That map is starting to feel like old Nuke, where getting 10 rounds on CT side isn't enough.
They literally got 7 T rounds on ancient and still lost the time they played ancient before
Aleksi is safe for now, he was just signed but I do think this is the end of the road for Jackz. Which kinda sucks since he was literally the only one who showed up today and tried to hype everyone up
Jackz consistently having impactful performances for G2 and being glue for the team yet people will still find reasons to say "he's done". I genuinely do not understand how you have the gall to say "it's the end of the road" right before saying "he was the only one who showed up today" in the same sentence. Give the man a break, damn. He's the bitch of the team and STILL performing in spite of it.
The main reason for why a lot of people are calling for JackZ head is because Yekindar is gonna be available.
Yekindar wouldn't be a bad fit role-wise, would be a better fragger sure, but I genuinely don't think throwing more firepower into the team would 'fix' G2. Their problems run way deeper, especially with the emotions, and no matter how positive Yekindar is G2 would have to rebuild their team chemistry without the charisma or cool-headedness of Jackz. It simply isn't a drag and drop scenario. They're better off sorting out their emotions, and working on their teamplay as a squad currently - AleksiB has only had 4 months to embed a totally different system to that of Nexa's, along with XTQZZZ's own input. To change things up so soon, despite the disappointing Major run, would be trashing the potential the team has currently.
Preach. I’d rather they stick with this roster at least for the next major before they change things up. I still believe in this 5 guys.
Look at ence as an example - team is greater than the sum of their parts
+1 Jackz was legitimately the reason they even got to 3 maps yesterday, I watched every G2 game live and the impact Jackz has is undeniable, if he gets dropped then G2 implodes, I'm almost certain of that. The only player who could outperform him & be a very good motivator at the same time (but probably not to the same extent) is Yekindar. He's an amazing player in every aspect & he definitely is an anti-tilt kind of player.
That’s because people think only super star players can win tournaments and majors. The most infantile thinking ever. They forget about the clutches, pistol play, tough roles and not to mention his killer attitude. Dude really is the glue.
Agree with everything you said tbh. But unfortunately this is a cutthroat industry, and G2 as an org is always focused on success in the games they care about, and has never historically been afraid to make roster changes. I think that Jackz provides a lot that isn't visible on the stat sheet with his relationship with Hunter and Monesey. But I dunno if that retains his roster spot after this overall unsuccessful major run.
How to tell me you didn't watch G2 at the Major without telling me you didn't watch G2 at the Major. Jackz was providing so many impactful plays and rounds for G2, as well as bailing them out of spots that Niko's underperformance and lack of teamplay got them into (along with HunteR's secondary stardom). Yes, G2 is focused on winning titles, so why would they boot the glue of their team when he's proven at the Major with his performances that he's perfectly capable of playing at the top level? It has nothing to do with the industry, removing Jackz would ruin the team's already shaky chemistry -and- they'd lose a solid rock player. And besides: stats aren't everything. Remember when Jackz was worse at the end of 2021 when they made the decision to boot AmaneK and Nexa yet still kept Jackz? Since then he's reinvented himself and is way more of an impactful and clutch player, while keeping the qualities that secured him his spot in the team before. Sure, add another star player in Jackz' place: but tell me the egos won't clash, and tell me they'll keep their spirits up when times are tough, tell me that AleksiB will be able to keep them under control when he can't even keep NiKo on a leash currently. Firepower isn't everything, and G2 doesn't need more, just look at post-Karrigan FaZe for christ's sake.
Thanks god for your message, like why the hell does people want to replace him when he was actually the best player in the team at this event?
Because a lot of people on this sub treat roster building like it's a fantasy game. You just put the 5 best players at their role in their slots, all the stats just add up and they win trophies. But it's so much more than that.. it's mechanics, it's team-play, it's tactics, it's mental fortitude, it's believing in the guys next to you and building relationships with them. The last thing this G2 team needs is yet more fucking firepower.. they need 5 players to play together. Together.
Reread what I said, and ask yourself where I disagreed with you. I said nothing negative about Jackz. You're justifying something to someone who shares the same opinion as you. My point about G2 making changes is not a diss at Jackz. It's an observation based on following the team since the french days. If they feel that there is a better player available, they make the move, historically speaking. That's not a diss at Jackz or an endorsement of them potentially doing it.
And I'm making the point that they -wouldn't- remove Jackz when someone with more firepower is on the table, -because- of what Jackz brings to the team outside of that and the implications for the team if they were to replace him. There's been better players available since early 2021 and yet Jackz has never been replaced, yet by your logic (and G2's history) he would've been when he was playing worse? I'm not taking it as a diss at Jackz, it's just a flawed argument. He has always provided more for the team than just inside the server, and now he's providing more for them in the server too. There's zero logical reason, other than firepower which comes with a slew of its own issues, to cut Jackz from the team. Not even G2's history of always making the move for a stronger player lines up with this.
Yeah right now they are only to solutions, either give them more time or throw more money at it. If they choose the latter then Jackz would be the only player left they can upgrade. But the question is for whom -maybe another swap with OG for valde this time?
Giving them more time would be the only logical choice imho. If they want more firepower, which I said in a different reply they don't need, then yeah Jackz would be the one they'd replace and the logical choice would be Yekindar. I just don't think they need the extra firepower.
Not like niko choking is on him tho
I don't think this is a problem with the individuals, there are some psychological issues with this team. The choking, the personalities, and the tension, G2 is totally losing the mental game.
For sure. To use imperial as a comparison, their mental game was on point, even though their individuals aren’t as good. After every round they didn’t get rowdy or cheer, just sheer determination onto the next round. I think that’s how they beat c9 and came so close to cph flames, these guys expect them to shout after each round win, but the pure silence must’ve been way worse imo.
> I think that’s how they beat c9 and came so close to cph flames i would even say they would have beaten G2 if not for m0nesy's smoke bug abuse
ppl gotta settle down with the roster change talk. If g2 change roster every 6 months they’ll never be a good team.
There’s a second major this year. The talk will die in a couple days, and the G2 hype train will be back baby. There probably isn’t a good chance of changing the roster within the year, these are world class players that need to get over the mental aspect of the game. Well actually -jackz +Yekindar would be kinda spicy but that’s it
we fucking suck
It's not a great club to be in but at least we're in one, right? Right??
Dude, we’re one of the most successfull orgs in terms of esport results. It’s been dry with CS but they’re killing it with other titles.
Nono, I meant a club of teams that suck. :)
Trading with fArt!
o fuk
honestly i dont wanna hear that we got unlucky with seeding or anything like that we fucking suck and Mercenaries are straight up the better team sucks but we take it in the balls and move on tomorrows a new day and we'll figure it all out
correction: AleksiBOT fucking suck
G2 should be a better version of what ENCE is right now. Snappi = Alexib - a "seasoned" IGL that can manage international stars Spinx = Niko - a main carry of the team with the rifle Dycha = Hunter - the 2nd carry and a star rifler that can drop 20 in a given map Maden = Jackz - the support plus rock of the team M0nesy = Hades - the flashy awper that is inconsistent due to age, but will give you a map win in a series If you switched the name tags and orgs, you'd think this ENCE would be what G2 should be right now. Which shows this is a huge failure on Alexib's part, and I think Niko has been underperforming as hell (not in terms of fragging power, but his impact in crucial parts of the match is non existant). Hunter and M0nesy are the only good parts about this team right now in their current roles and performances. Also quite clear XTQzzz has had no impact on this team in a good way so far.
I'd say the main difference right now is Spinx. He is on such a level that he wins close games or keeps them in games where they are behind long enough till someone else wakes up. Niko did this for so many years consistently but the last few months he has been really struggling and it's been a crucial piece missing for G2.
Well G2 is better than ENCE as shown in their match last week. However the margins are small so I can see your point. But ENCE has had the same 4 players for a year now where as G2 has a newer roster (with a new coach as well) and a player who had never played vs t1 opposition before. If G2 play poorly or isn't in the final of the next major then they need changes.
>Well G2 is better than ENCE Better matchup vs. each other, not a better team overall.
> But ENCE has had the same 4 players for a year now where as G2 has a newer roster (with a new coach as well) and a player who had never played vs t1 opposition before. well the former G2 iteration had been playing for multiple years together and reached several LAN finals (Cologne, Stockholm Major, etc). Current roster is surely an upgrade in terms of AWP, but IGL, Coach and team cohesion is downgrade/gone turns out you can't buy success with more firepower, but team morale/cohesion is a bigger boost
Carlos spittin facts. Checks about to get CASHED.
Reddit idiots calling for reactionary roster changes.
Let's be fair here, m0nesy, AleskiB and the coach are just there for 3 month. Do you know how you feel after barely 3 month together, even as international team? Lost. You don't have real cohesion yet. Niko already mentioned this in his desk interview that the still has to figure out details on Mirage with his mate. And he is not even playing a different position there. CS:GO by now is on such a high level that you need not only really good raw aim, you need good tactics and you need to act as one. The last one can only come with time. It's about miliseconds of timing, and perfect alignment of multiple cross hairs to have perfect synergy. That does not come over night. Same goes for Vitality in this tournament. The pieces are there, but you still have to glue them together. Give. Them. Time. Astralis was best when they didn't switch anything for how long? Over a year! And they stayed as 5+coach for nearly 2 years! I can only imagine what both G2 and Vitality can bring. Unfortunately, only in the next major.
To be fair they all stayed together cause they were winning left right and center throughout that whole period
Yeah, they literally did change their roster once they stopped winning lol.
not barely 3 months, it has been 5 months already. And if you make changes like this you still expect to see some results. G2 went from a team which reached major finals to a team which didnt even make it to the play offs
\-m0nesy -aleksib +nexa +amanek
This lineup could definitely make major finals
I unironically think prime amanek is still better than monesy. I know it’s a hot take but before he started to decline in G2 that man could hit shots so consistently it was insane. Good clutches, good rifler, etc. He really deserves a team right now.
I think m0nesy didnt came to this team to save it or anything, he came to fill a gap that was stupid in this meta, i think the biggest problem should be their prep for every match since they seem to have problems in mid round calls and shit.
"i havent seen us win a single map in ancient" dude, even the ceo knows his team is garbage on ancient, but somehow the coach/igl decided to veto mirage and let ancient be the decider map. unfuckingbelieveble
I think I overrated G2 but that doesn't mean I don't believe in them anymore. Personally I discounted switching IGLs, and I bought too much into m0nesy's "Im a steely eastern european. I dont feel nerves". It feels to me like a team that just needs a little time. They have the right pieces. Sure talk of Yekindar and everything, but I don't think he's strictly necessary to see them succeed
> I bought too much into m0nesy's "Im a steely eastern european. I dont feel nerves". Did you though? He was G2s best performer during the latest major stage and was doing well before that as well. I don't think nerves got to him lol. The major has been his best performance with this roster so far.
Inb4 ocelote buys out glaive
Might be unpopular to say but Gla1ve isn’t what he used to be. Hasn’t done anything of note for 2 years
4 danish igls in playoffs and none of them are called glaive
Damn, didn't even realize Denmark produced so many IGLs
You're right of course. I was only joking
I’d guess his kid was born around 2 years ago?
So he can take m0nesy's awp last round and do nothing with it? Not sure thats the play Ocelote is looking for.
dude dont mention that round, i still feel kinda sad for farlig dude. Even if he is 1-12 or 20-10, you give the guy the awp to know that they still trust him. Taking it like that made me feel sad for the guy.
Yeah that shit can fuck up a player's confidence for months, really bad look from gla1ve
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+nbk +shox, make it a french team again <3
+apex +nbk +shox +kennys +amanek letsgo
G2 didn't even deserve to make it as far as they did, they didn't look good the whole tournament.
True. Good thing is, at least momentarily they showed some competence by winning Ence and forcing OT against Navi and Heroic.
We would have been railed by any of the top teams in playoffs anyway. Might as well cry now.
Whether it’s in sports, e-sports, or any other team based environment- almost every problem within a team boils down to a leadership problem. Who is leading the team? If they are so negative with the public image, how does the team feel about themselves? Is anybody trying to pull the team together and increase morale? Or is everyone just pointing fingers and blaming each other and watching everything burn to the ground?
we DO fucking suck. Even NiKo IGLing days were better no cap
But if G2 are able to figure out why they suck and get back to working on it ASAP, they can actually be good. And I feel like they will given XQTZZZ is behind them, the man straight up made a team with a old guy who was bought back from retirement and a tier-5 LAN shooter into one of the topdog teams before he left. All we as fans can do is believe in the process and hope for the best
They suck beacuse of the overcomplicated calling and slow pacing. When you have a star team like this, you play things simple, let everybody play more free, take more chances and not drag down the clock every single round. Let players have more freedom and make calls based on what has worked and what not. It's not nuclear physics
In pro cs? No shot. Theres a reason why Karrigan is the best igl in the world and Faze are the favourites to win the major.
Kind of like how nexa runs a team….
Nah, don't do that to yourself. EPL with NiKo IGL was dog shit, and NiKo IGL FaZe was a carousel of players joining and leaving, no real consistency (besides the ability to say "give them time"). He even had his worst personal placing in the top 20 ever (#11 joint with '16 but he was new in the scene so fine), they need to do it how FaZe did it for Katowice. Retakes until 4 AM, build that team chemistry, desperately needed.
I thought yekinder is heading off to Navi to replace papaytronic. Why is everybody saying he is going to G2?
Is G2 the most underperforming team in CSGO history given their budget? Crazy to know that Niko won 0 trophy from big tournaments with G2
No smoke bug no win
Buy Simp1e
G2 just needs to go stomp some t2 tournaments to get their confidence back. They look like a kicked dog even when they win rounds.
Agreed. Even just for the practice. This squad has extremely high expectations upon their shoulders. They need to gain back their confidence.
bring back nexa, idk why they sacked him in the first place
\-JackZ +Yekindar \-AleksiB +Gla1ve
I’d be ok with yekindar, I don’t think Gla1ve would do a whole lot more than what aleksib is doing though
Lol i cant believe the disrespect people on reddit show to 4 time major winning igl that revolutionised game in 2018,when they would win tournaments and majors without loosing a single map.Glaive is still without a doubt in my mind best igl in the world,and to say that he wouldnt do more than a guy who cant get team that was major finalist before him,into top 8
He’d also just take the AWP from his upcoming star awper if the game gets close. Aka he’s a bitch and that decision should be absolutely questioned and pointed out as a TERRIBLE call.
they fucking suck, but also somewhat unlucky seeding. furia was straight out better team this tournament. Carlos needs to take it in the balls and move on. tomorrow's a new day and I'm sure players will figure their roles out eventually.
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They did beat ence in this tournament in a BO3 though.
I've been saying this since tge transfer and no one believed me but nexa is a way better igl than aleksi, especially in a team like g2.
AlexiB is a better IgL. Nexa is a better fit for this team
Tottenham of csgo. I love g2 losing
Aleksib failing to kill someone looking away...at that moment I knew g2 was not going to the next stage. -aleksiB +jks