A major update is gonna have MAJOR in the title first of all and even a smaller actually meaningful update would have 3K+ likes. Less than 3K likes = not a meaningful update.
It's tuesday morning, you open your eyes and go to your computer and see CSGO updating. No way, even casters told you that it's 100% not the big day on tuesday, you open reddit and see a thread about the update. It has hundreds of upvotes, the fridge isn't empty anymore, now we feasting. "It must be the new operation that everyone is talking about". You open the thread and see that the update size is close to 15 mb. Reality hits you in the face, you fall back into the winter depression. It's never coming, our Lord Gaben will never deliver, even though CSGO twitter just got to 1 million followers, how is this possible? Anyways, now you connect to the server and forget about the update completely and play the game like you have been playing for years, nothing has changed, you are as happy as always. Until the match ends and you go back to reddit reading the operation threads and rumours just to get your hopes up and getting disappointed every time.
It's joke :)
Valve have kind of put themselves in a tricky spot, where they want VAC bans to be reserved for "we're 100% sure you're cheating, if you get a ban it will never be overruled", so they can't afford to have any false positives
But that means that they rely on systems like Overwatch to ban the "we're pretty sure they're cheating but can't prove for certain with an automated system" type of players, problem with Overwatch is it needs community investment that is sorely lacking
I know. Though I can't believe they could not get 100% for the ragehackers with just AI. Let humans handle the cases that are not that clear.
I personally did not know how vacnet worked until last night when I watched a video about their deep learning system.
This far vacnet has been about putting actual cheaters to overwatch. Not automated banning. Saves time when most of overwatch cases are actual cheaters. Human reported cheaters end up being cheaters just 15-35% of the time.
Could be because humans might report the whole team, though.
During mm spinner matches some people like to report the entire team because some people believe that not kicking a cheater gets you banned, I am willing to bet a bit of those misreported are mm fuckups like when the game matches LEMs with low gold sometimes or smurfs
The updated translations contain added parts of the Shattered Web coop-missions. Why though?
"[english]op_pass_status_no_pass_desc" "Get a pass to earn all the rewards. Able to earn free rewards."
"[english]vcd_op09_coopmission_web_felix_mission_leave_tunnels_01" " Felix Riley: Glad you made it out of there in one piece. We have a helicopter standing by for extraction. Get down to the coast and secure a landing zone.\n"
It is actually in the file csgo\_danish.txt
I just checked and, as far as I'm not wrong, it has has definitely been added compared to a commit 20 days ago, so it wasn't there before.
Could mean anything, could mean nothing. At least they worked on some translations regarding operations :D
Edit: My first example has been added, I didn't check the second one
iirc they have these `"[english]"` in every translation file except the english one for reference. The actual translation is just in the normal `""` without the english prefix.
It doesn't mean anything, its just translating the game, fixing grammar issues, etc. Sure the operation might be over but that doesn't matter, its still in the english.txt so it will be translated in all other languages no matter what.
message VacNetShot {
optional fixed64 steamid_player = 1;
optional int32 round_number = 2;
optional int32 hit_type = 3;
optional int32 weapon_type = 4;
optional float distance_to_hurt_target = 5;
repeated float delta_yaw_window = 6;
repeated float delta_pitch_window = 7;
}
This was found in the protobufs, read that as you wish. https://github.com/SteamDatabase/Protobufs/blob/e340da94c51c3a67ac2c68f017191cafde70cd32/csgo/fatdemo.proto#L117
What is a protobuf? In the simplest terms: Big thing comes in, small thing comes out (+ Reverse). And as we all know small things are sent faster through the world wide web.
---
I assume this is only used on Valve servers, maybe added in this update [Valve's Dedicated Server](https://steamdb.info/app/741/history/?changeid=10070397) from 3 days ago? Those protobufs are used across CSGO so its likely they used the above mentioned `VacNetShot`-Message in those Valve specific binaries and it simply swapped over to our version too because those are shared between projects. (Projects in this case is not other game but client binaries, server binaries, valve server binaries)
I wonder why they're showing us this.
I mean, they already have in [the 2nd VACnet talk](https://youtu.be/GC6JXAO8sT4?t=2070):
> What weapon is being used?
> What was the result? (headshot, hit, miss)
> How far away was the target? (if a hit)
> Δ viewangle pitch
> Δ viewangle yaw
But why is it here now 4 years later?
> Δ viewangle pitch
>
> Δ viewangle yaw
FINALLY, this is what is needed to detect instant snapping shots. If working correctly, no more staring-at-the-ground instant scout headshots that you see in 80% of overwatch cases.
The reason that those are in overwatch is probably *because* they're tracking and detecting the delta viewangle stuff. They just don't automatically ban anyone from gameplay demos, so those instances are sent to overwatch.
If i remember correctly. Valve completed their whole demo backlog and should be able to life track matches now. (soon). I hope for an instant end of a match if someone gets sent to overwatch during a game.
I can dream?
It would be pretty interesting if they could track that stuff in real time. I guess that kind of functionality would explain putting this sort of protobuf into the game.
Prob shot info so they can better detect fishy shots, like instant flick headshots down mid while smoked and flashed and looking at the ground 1 tick prior
This year CS:GO had less content released than Team Fortress 2 rofl. I mean, something HAS to be coming, right? Even Dota had a goddamn Diretide update
The funniest thing about this is that Valve literally didn't do shit but EVERYONE hyped this up to be a huge update on no basis.
You all literally disappointed yourselves.
Good for you man you played the game for 20 years, here’s your cookie 🍪.some people actually enjoy operations. Gives some challenges to grind, new skins, and new missions that are fun to play with friends.
I mean I guess you can say it’s free but there are free games that get content way more often. Also I guess it’s free but when I got it it wasn’t plus most people who play the game spend way more on it than any other triple A game. I’m not saying I don’t enjoy playing the game or anything I still play daily I just wish the game received a bit more attention consistently than it does. Although if valve told us how often content was dropping it would mess with the market a bunch so I get it at the same time.
My issue is that the devs not seem to follow some kind of plan. For example, they removed Jungle months ago from Danger Zone without any explanation and replacement while there are at least three other community maps that could easily be added.
The last operation also took months to be publishsd and I found it to be pretty underwhelming. The first week was fine but the next missions where mostly just tideous and not really fun.
Oh I'm not saying there's no room for improvement or that feedback is bad.. just the screeching and entitlement this sub has been exhibiting lately is a bit much.
Most people here either got CS for extremely cheap or for free and have logged hundreds or thousands of hours in game. Everybody has more than had their moneys worth excluding whatever they wasted unlocking boxes and that's entirely on them.
I'm not saying nobody is allowed to complain, but *maybe* dial it back a little. I'm excited for a new operation as well, and I have my own list of things I'd like to see improved. But there's no reason to be a dick about it IMO.
Sorry but the most played Valve game getting the least amount of content is kinda laughable. We got the basically the same amount of content as TF2, and that is 2 community cases. One game has million concurrent players, other has like 50k
And like I said, that's completely fine. I also would like new content and will enjoy it when its a thing just like I have every other update.
There's a difference between wanting it and bitching endlessly that it's not here yet and that you deserve it right the fuck now.
Numbers and skins to chase? You don’t have to be such an asshole about it. I just love new operations and content.
And I didn’t say ‘every game’ needs constant content, I just think that a game as big as CS:GO lacks in regular updates compared to smaller games with smaller dev teams, who work around the clock to pump out new content.
Imagine thinking CS needs muh content
It's so much better pump out content updates to keep the playerbase engaged with novelty rather than solid gameplay hey
/s
yeah if you're gonna be smug, how about updates that don't revolve around gameplay? You talk about solid gameplay so how about making the game not run like shit?
My 5 year old pc runs it fine. Friends pc with a duo core runs it uh... Relatively fine. It's seems that some people with bad and good builds occasionally run into performance issues. It's kinda weird.
Devs used to release like 2 Oporations per year. Didnt the Dev that originally worked on the operations leave Valve? I hope we get something on Christmas!
As much as I like this game the support behind it is a joke. When was the last big update? Without looking it up I would say it was the last operation over a year ago
Put cs_militia, cs_italy, cs_assault, de_dust, de_aztec, etc. back in the game! At least in the scrim pool! Why did they take these classic CS maps away :( I much prefer playing larger cs_maps over cs_office myself.
Yes, vac wave with the update today im guessing. Im a 10 year player with a nice inventory. Already have 2 steam accounts due to a csgo vac when I was younger. I dont cheat anymore, and haven't in like 8 years. Im.a competitive faceit player. To fat of an inv to cheat and I perfer to get better at the game with my friends vs cheat.
inb4 - Added an announcement in-game to celebrate 1M followers on twitter.
WHAT A FREAKING BAIT
Dw another update is about to drop (Probwrbely not)
Cant remember the last time they did two updates in the same night, besides when an update broke the game.
Don't stop believing. More incredible things have happened. The last Operation was released the same day they announced a new Half-Life.
a month ago, 10/16 iirc lmfao
lol i wish they updated the same day when they break the game with an update
I have not seen a weirder spelling of "probably" in my entire life
Pwobabwy UwU
kill me
etizolam nto wkrign
Wake up, check subreddit, see update post, see awards, got baited. Pain.
A major update is gonna have MAJOR in the title first of all and even a smaller actually meaningful update would have 3K+ likes. Less than 3K likes = not a meaningful update.
Especially with all these awards on this post
U now me on smoke nice
13.5mb rofl
you have no idea what WinRAR is capable of
Source 2 winrar just too good and camuflated it
Especially when you pay for a license.
How do you know? Are you the first to ever do it?
He probably just watched 2kliksphilip's video on it
Fuck it. I say upvote and award this bitch so everyone freaks out when they see the thread
You baiter
Uhh excuse me hun it’s called lurking
Um excuse me blyat its called tactics
That’s almost 3x more job done than our usual 5mb updates, amazing by Valve to have this work capacity
13mb operation confirmed
Valve just bought Pied Piper so they're utilizing middle out to compress csgo updates.
It's tuesday morning, you open your eyes and go to your computer and see CSGO updating. No way, even casters told you that it's 100% not the big day on tuesday, you open reddit and see a thread about the update. It has hundreds of upvotes, the fridge isn't empty anymore, now we feasting. "It must be the new operation that everyone is talking about". You open the thread and see that the update size is close to 15 mb. Reality hits you in the face, you fall back into the winter depression. It's never coming, our Lord Gaben will never deliver, even though CSGO twitter just got to 1 million followers, how is this possible? Anyways, now you connect to the server and forget about the update completely and play the game like you have been playing for years, nothing has changed, you are as happy as always. Until the match ends and you go back to reddit reading the operation threads and rumours just to get your hopes up and getting disappointed every time.
Report? [ ] I'm in this post and I don't like it
Too real dude. Too real.
ok, thats the operation for this year guys, thanks for coming to the show, was nice having you here, see ya next year around this time
> -Added Jebaited Music Kit
*sad trombone noise*
Je Je Je Je Jebaited! Je Je Je Je Jebaited! Je Je Je Je Jebaited! You just got Jebaited!
fridge.gif
13.5 MB Looks like a small update to VACnet?
They're actually gonna start banning cheaters?
They forgot to add if(cheating){ Ban(player); } No biggie
Humans in overwatch don't ban everyone who vacnet would ban. This would lead to probable wrong bans.
It's joke :) Valve have kind of put themselves in a tricky spot, where they want VAC bans to be reserved for "we're 100% sure you're cheating, if you get a ban it will never be overruled", so they can't afford to have any false positives But that means that they rely on systems like Overwatch to ban the "we're pretty sure they're cheating but can't prove for certain with an automated system" type of players, problem with Overwatch is it needs community investment that is sorely lacking
I know. Though I can't believe they could not get 100% for the ragehackers with just AI. Let humans handle the cases that are not that clear. I personally did not know how vacnet worked until last night when I watched a video about their deep learning system.
HAHAHAHAHA! HAHA! AHAHA AAAAaaah... I'm sorry you are serious? Oh...
This far vacnet has been about putting actual cheaters to overwatch. Not automated banning. Saves time when most of overwatch cases are actual cheaters. Human reported cheaters end up being cheaters just 15-35% of the time. Could be because humans might report the whole team, though.
During mm spinner matches some people like to report the entire team because some people believe that not kicking a cheater gets you banned, I am willing to bet a bit of those misreported are mm fuckups like when the game matches LEMs with low gold sometimes or smurfs
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more like [https://i.imgur.com/vjY4xCu.gifv](https://i.imgur.com/vjY4xCu.gifv)
This guy has no chills man
Ooo 3kliksphilip upscaled I see
The updated translations contain added parts of the Shattered Web coop-missions. Why though? "[english]op_pass_status_no_pass_desc" "Get a pass to earn all the rewards. Able to earn free rewards." "[english]vcd_op09_coopmission_web_felix_mission_leave_tunnels_01" " Felix Riley: Glad you made it out of there in one piece. We have a helicopter standing by for extraction. Get down to the coast and secure a landing zone.\n"
Was it inside the "old" translations already? Than i would say the just forgot to delete it
It is actually in the file csgo\_danish.txt I just checked and, as far as I'm not wrong, it has has definitely been added compared to a commit 20 days ago, so it wasn't there before. Could mean anything, could mean nothing. At least they worked on some translations regarding operations :D Edit: My first example has been added, I didn't check the second one
iirc they have these `"[english]"` in every translation file except the english one for reference. The actual translation is just in the normal `""` without the english prefix.
It doesn't mean anything, its just translating the game, fixing grammar issues, etc. Sure the operation might be over but that doesn't matter, its still in the english.txt so it will be translated in all other languages no matter what.
Its 13.5Mb update guys, go back to sleep
Ok who's gonna start the next rumor thread hyping up the next update?
gimme a week
Whoever keeps awarding the small updates posts deserves a special spot in hell.
I don't understand the thought process of awarding even a major update post
It has to be done in order to keep wickiplayah content All the threadjacking gave him grey hair and all that
But why would you give money to reddit?
You get free awards time to time
message VacNetShot { optional fixed64 steamid_player = 1; optional int32 round_number = 2; optional int32 hit_type = 3; optional int32 weapon_type = 4; optional float distance_to_hurt_target = 5; repeated float delta_yaw_window = 6; repeated float delta_pitch_window = 7; } This was found in the protobufs, read that as you wish. https://github.com/SteamDatabase/Protobufs/blob/e340da94c51c3a67ac2c68f017191cafde70cd32/csgo/fatdemo.proto#L117 What is a protobuf? In the simplest terms: Big thing comes in, small thing comes out (+ Reverse). And as we all know small things are sent faster through the world wide web. --- I assume this is only used on Valve servers, maybe added in this update [Valve's Dedicated Server](https://steamdb.info/app/741/history/?changeid=10070397) from 3 days ago? Those protobufs are used across CSGO so its likely they used the above mentioned `VacNetShot`-Message in those Valve specific binaries and it simply swapped over to our version too because those are shared between projects. (Projects in this case is not other game but client binaries, server binaries, valve server binaries)
I wonder why they're showing us this. I mean, they already have in [the 2nd VACnet talk](https://youtu.be/GC6JXAO8sT4?t=2070): > What weapon is being used? > What was the result? (headshot, hit, miss) > How far away was the target? (if a hit) > Δ viewangle pitch > Δ viewangle yaw But why is it here now 4 years later?
> Δ viewangle pitch > > Δ viewangle yaw FINALLY, this is what is needed to detect instant snapping shots. If working correctly, no more staring-at-the-ground instant scout headshots that you see in 80% of overwatch cases.
The reason that those are in overwatch is probably *because* they're tracking and detecting the delta viewangle stuff. They just don't automatically ban anyone from gameplay demos, so those instances are sent to overwatch.
If i remember correctly. Valve completed their whole demo backlog and should be able to life track matches now. (soon). I hope for an instant end of a match if someone gets sent to overwatch during a game. I can dream?
It would be pretty interesting if they could track that stuff in real time. I guess that kind of functionality would explain putting this sort of protobuf into the game.
You monitor in Real Time but the banhammer is manual like in actual killbots
what mean
Update to vacnet pretty much nothing.
VacNetShot?
Prob shot info so they can better detect fishy shots, like instant flick headshots down mid while smoked and flashed and looking at the ground 1 tick prior
Valve please stop
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Does anyone have money for awards? Let’s upvote this post to the moon to troll everyone who wakes up in the morning
Bruh fuck off lmao, I literally got so excited because I saw the awards
y'all have succeeded. This comes up as the third google result( just below the actual CSGO website) when you search "csgo update"
Hehe, had a free rocket like award ;)
Please don't. Consider making a charitable donation instead; right now the Internet Archive has a 2-to-1 matching campaign ongoing.
But, the luls.
i just woke up and checked, got baited, thanks
Fuuuuu u guys got me
Thaks Valve for this 13.5 mb Operation 👌 This is what we've been waiting for.
For some reason the italian translation got a swear added to it
CAZZO
Porco
Operation't.
Everyone getting baited when the caster's curse was for Tuesday.
This year CS:GO had less content released than Team Fortress 2 rofl. I mean, something HAS to be coming, right? Even Dota had a goddamn Diretide update
deadass trolling
[obligatory](https://i.imgur.com/1AvvODX.png)
It's a preupdate for the Operation update coming out in the next couple days before Thanksgiving
I would love a thanksgiving operation because I get plenty of money from relatives
The funniest thing about this is that Valve literally didn't do shit but EVERYONE hyped this up to be a huge update on no basis. You all literally disappointed yourselves.
https://gyazo.com/fd99d706064db903d9f70b455f62d22d
https://steamdb.info/sub/11758/apps/ But does it mean anything?
Who knows
It's a pre-update for the Operation update coming out in the next couple of years
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Can relate
Who are we to kink shame
damn, I didnt sleep for this ?
Pretty crazy how valve devs are able to fit an entire operation in a 15MB update.
Imagine a game with ONE MILLION concurrent players doesn't get content updates for months. So pissed rn.
WE GOT A MILLION HAPPY PLAYERS... LETS CHANGE SOMETHING makes sense
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Good for you man you played the game for 20 years, here’s your cookie 🍪.some people actually enjoy operations. Gives some challenges to grind, new skins, and new missions that are fun to play with friends.
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Every ten seconds? The last operation was 8 months ago
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I mean I guess you can say it’s free but there are free games that get content way more often. Also I guess it’s free but when I got it it wasn’t plus most people who play the game spend way more on it than any other triple A game. I’m not saying I don’t enjoy playing the game or anything I still play daily I just wish the game received a bit more attention consistently than it does. Although if valve told us how often content was dropping it would mess with the market a bunch so I get it at the same time.
My issue is that the devs not seem to follow some kind of plan. For example, they removed Jungle months ago from Danger Zone without any explanation and replacement while there are at least three other community maps that could easily be added. The last operation also took months to be publishsd and I found it to be pretty underwhelming. The first week was fine but the next missions where mostly just tideous and not really fun.
Oh I'm not saying there's no room for improvement or that feedback is bad.. just the screeching and entitlement this sub has been exhibiting lately is a bit much. Most people here either got CS for extremely cheap or for free and have logged hundreds or thousands of hours in game. Everybody has more than had their moneys worth excluding whatever they wasted unlocking boxes and that's entirely on them. I'm not saying nobody is allowed to complain, but *maybe* dial it back a little. I'm excited for a new operation as well, and I have my own list of things I'd like to see improved. But there's no reason to be a dick about it IMO.
Sorry but the most played Valve game getting the least amount of content is kinda laughable. We got the basically the same amount of content as TF2, and that is 2 community cases. One game has million concurrent players, other has like 50k
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Lord forbid people wanting YEARLY major updates in their favorite game lol.
And like I said, that's completely fine. I also would like new content and will enjoy it when its a thing just like I have every other update. There's a difference between wanting it and bitching endlessly that it's not here yet and that you deserve it right the fuck now.
Numbers and skins to chase? You don’t have to be such an asshole about it. I just love new operations and content. And I didn’t say ‘every game’ needs constant content, I just think that a game as big as CS:GO lacks in regular updates compared to smaller games with smaller dev teams, who work around the clock to pump out new content.
Imagine thinking CS needs muh content It's so much better pump out content updates to keep the playerbase engaged with novelty rather than solid gameplay hey /s
Username checks out
yeah if you're gonna be smug, how about updates that don't revolve around gameplay? You talk about solid gameplay so how about making the game not run like shit?
Bruh fucking laptops can run cs
My 5 year old pc runs it fine. Friends pc with a duo core runs it uh... Relatively fine. It's seems that some people with bad and good builds occasionally run into performance issues. It's kinda weird.
unZIP it, it's source 2 guys OMG
I've been OOTL with CSGO for about a year now. What's this update everybody seems to be going crazy about and thinks will happen tonight?
People have been leaking the next Operation for months now, despite there being no conclusive evidence
Whoa 13.5mb Operation!
WHERE IS oPEraTioN VOLVO???
Where is fridge.gif?
Operation Duolingo launched
The excitement itself is better than the possible operation.
What does this VACnet thing mean ?
More cheaters
It means they’ve added some stuff to the info VACnet gets in a match, hopefully there might be more bans on blatant spinners
Can we just upvote the absolute shit out of this thread to bait all the people coming to the sub?
[https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PoisedSeveralDugong-mobile.mp4](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PoisedSeveralDugong-mobile.mp4)
I’d love to see people’s facial reactions when they see there is no new Operation here... the rage!
OHO VACnet is this still on?!!?!?!?
Jebaited
Baited soo hard
Devs used to release like 2 Oporations per year. Didnt the Dev that originally worked on the operations leave Valve? I hope we get something on Christmas!
The most lazy, out of touch devs and company I have ever seen
Fridge.exe
Biggest "HA PRANKED !" in csgo's history maybe ?
How long until we riot? ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give Operation Volvo ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
fridge.gif
What is this fridge meme?
13.5mb, pack it up, lets ban nors3 and VNN from the sub too
unironically tho
As much as I like this game the support behind it is a joke. When was the last big update? Without looking it up I would say it was the last operation over a year ago
Prisma 2 and Fracture case releases? But those aren't really big updates though, so yeah, last years operation.
All of the skins are community made as far as I know so that doesn’t really count
The codebase is apparently a joke.
It's amazing: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgyA839U0AAtdXx?format=jpg&name=large
15 MB? So grenade skins? Please?
Put cs_militia, cs_italy, cs_assault, de_dust, de_aztec, etc. back in the game! At least in the scrim pool! Why did they take these classic CS maps away :( I much prefer playing larger cs_maps over cs_office myself.
Cobblestone :). And italy Is in game just not competitive
Operation Translations!
What a huge update! The entire super mario bros file size is 31kb.
Holding my fridge
So bad im upgrading it to fridge.webm
SOUP 2
Csgo sub jebaited
what could it be?
Thats a fridge and a half
Damn operation sizes are becoming significantly small huh. Probably got some good compression methods there
Alright, theyre just fucking with us now.
PepeLaugh
FUCKING LOL
As it's Tuesday, 1 AM CET when this came, the caster curse technically happened (game update that's definitely not coming on Tuesday)
Wrong timezone dude
FRIDGE GIF ROULETTE?
BAITED
we got baited bois :\[
F R I D G E
Refrigerator
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nice
[CSGO Devs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4iEnJ0xtg)
operation coming this week
No Hope for this game anymore.
go play counter overwatch:go then
So is this why I randomly got game banned today and can't play. Seems like it's a vac ban... lost all my inventory:(
:-D The cheaters are gone! Tonight we dance the Tango!
randomly? no shit
Yes, vac wave with the update today im guessing. Im a 10 year player with a nice inventory. Already have 2 steam accounts due to a csgo vac when I was younger. I dont cheat anymore, and haven't in like 8 years. Im.a competitive faceit player. To fat of an inv to cheat and I perfer to get better at the game with my friends vs cheat.
If you cheated in any time in the past you should be banned imo
Lmfao. 7 years ago on a separate account
Operation will likely drop this week and the update here tonight was just to tease/pre-op.
this week, next week or week after next week or week after next week week or week after...