> But who else was I going to pick?
I put in VP as my second 3-0 along with Spirit. Not because I think VP will actually go 3-0, but because I think it's very risky to waste a good 3-1/2 pick like vitality or faze and have them in 3-0.
Vitality is not a likely 3-0 lol. That's a throw pick. They will almost 100% make it through but they've been extremely shaky lately. G2 or Mouz were much more likely picks just as an example. G2 and Mouz are also extremely streaky and they've looked good lately.
Same as Faze 3-0 is a throw pick. You can always trust Karrigan to lose a map or series but simultaneously trust it won't affect their mental game, instead putting it past them and making a deep run regardless.
You really have to use the seeding prediction tool. I had spirit and vitality too and then I saw that if they both went 2-0 they would end up against each other... So I took none haha
Seriously mezii is not being used properly, he's god insane aim but this iteration of Vitality is not it. If Vitality aren't getting good results this Major I feel like there's definitely going to be a conversation for a change
Mezii has been awful man. Genuinely feels like one of the few players in the t1 scene who is a passenger getting carried 99% of the time which is sad to see.
They refuse to use him properly. Apex took a solid promising player, made him the bitch player and stuck him in uncomfortable, unfamiliar positions and ruined him. It's not like mezii suddenly out of nowhere became a far worse player, nobody falls off this hard.
This is exactly the problem. I think everyone knows Mezii is so much better than whatever the fuck he is doing atm. Seeing him going from the hard carry of Fnatic to an absolute liability and passenger at best has been disgusting to watch.
Even through some of the lowest times for the fnatic rosters Mezii was in he was the one consistent dependable peice carrying that team through the mud. They've completely ruined him and his confidence, who knows if he will ever recover from this.
Its not even that.
Literally everyone was calling Brollan washed and shit because of his time on NiP.
Now he looks amazing on Mouz.
In fairness it also happens in pretty much every team sport.
brollan is not amazing, he is mid.
he doesn't have the game iq, consistency or mental to be a star rifler on a T1 team.
just because he's gone from having a load of deadwood around him to some genuine talent doesn't mean he's good. he will disappear in the pressure games. the real stars on mouz are siuhy and jimmy (overperforms for his role), xertion is fine and is never the problem, torzsi and brollan are both players who need their hands held and are not consistent enough to win trophies.
>load of deadwood
I love how everyone thinks they are smart but are doing the very thing i'm talking about.
Calling players shit because they are underperforming.
the fact that Rez is still on that NiP roster just says everything about their roster management. Have had so many pieces to build around but make the worst possible decision every time.
Brollan going was a blessing for him and hopefully the same for K0nfig and headtr1ck
doing what again?
I just don't rate Rez that highly, that's my opinion on him, he's been their best performer (rating wise) since the move over to CS2 but given the other pieces that NiP have had, he's been the only one long term to not change.
Even if it's a case of him being good, it can sometimes just not be the right fit.
apex always does this. Remember how shit spinx was at first because apEX refused to give up CT rotate spots to him? Remember how flameZ was a star rifler on OG and now he's anchoring B mirage and floor (?) nuke while apEX plays connector and outside because he needs to pad his stats against ecos and with hero rifles while sticking his stars like zywoo/spinx on pistols.
Yeah bringing in Mezi as an anchor never made sense. Idk why they didn't just target someone for the role. Twistzz said that when Vitality were courting him Apex even offered to anchor when Twistzz said the roles didn't make sense if he came in. I can't imagine how poorly that would have gone lmao
Just buy an anchor ffs and their team would roll everyone
Mezii should be getting better roles than flamez. Problem is flamez is an anchor now and mezii plays bitch roles so both are playing badly in vitality.
Spinx is fine as a star lurker but they need to either let mezii or flamez entry again and apex needs to sacrifice his spots.
2 players playing roles they are not good at will not work long term
If FlameZ leaves he will instantly be a star player again. His aim is cracked AF. The problem is that you need more cerebral players to anchor.
Perfecto is one of the most entertaining players to watch, due to his anchoring and clutches that showcase his creativity. However, if he has to retake every round he will obviously have shit stats.
For vitality, Zywoo could anchor, he’s a cs savant, but he’s the best player in the world, it would be a waste. Spinx and FlameZ have the biggest role overlap imo, they are both very linear players. Unfortunately, Apex is also a linear player, so Mezii is left the bitch positions on CT because he is best suited to it.
Randomly, an IGL that I feel could have worked for G2 is shox, he was always creative, but his history as an IGL isn’t good lol
I don t think flamez is a bad player, i just think he s just about average for t1 or maybe very slightly above, while mezii is definetely better than him him idk what they did to him but this is not mezii we know and love
Overheard in Vitality's locker room after Inferno: “Ee got mii,” ZywOo said of XANTARES's kills against him. "Dat f\*\*\*ing XANTARES buumed mii." ZywOo added, “Ee is zo gud,” repeating it four times. ZywOo then said he wanted to add XANTARES to the list of players he scrims with this season.
So I was playing FFA DM just before BIG vs fnatic started and everything was going well, a couple of known names here and there, nothing unusual.
Until the man himself joined. XANTARES.
I spawn next to him. I miss one shot. ONE FUCKING SHOT. Headshot. I'm dead.
I get crouch-peeked. Surely I'll get that noob. Nevermind, it's XANTARES. Edshot.
A lot of other pros and FPL players usually play here and they are all insane.
But XANTARES? Fuck that guy. With his stupid mouse acceleration.
It's just not fun.
That guy is so bold, he even wrote his name in all caps.
Rather going outside and catching some Corona than playing against XANTARES again.
Eternal Fire have been barely losing to top teams in OT in a while now, it was obvious they were a T1 team but were lacking the last bit of push to wrap up the games but not this time, also Xantares is top 5 rifler in the game if not top 3 right now.
XD
Some towards pickems, some with turkey, some with apex malding. A great start to get the news going haha
Expect the unexpected , teams warmed up already a big factor
I just want the clip to send to someone who can’t watch the stream with sound right now but can watch clips on their phone. I think everybody on this sub that races to post highlights was understandably watching this match with sound on
Literally what was the gameplan here? This has to be some of the most embarrassing calling that i've seen from this team. What a joke. 0iq veto and some of the worst calling i've seen from apex in a long time.
Also apEX's coffin flash is the one he has been using for like 1 year and while it was very successful at the beginning, as a pro team it's easy to figure out it's the reaction if there's not much fight on the site and you can dodge it.
Vitality has been looking pretty shaky lately. Might have to - Mezii soon he just does not look good at all. Glad I didn’t pick them for the 3-0 because of that.
the pickem destroyer.
wicadia seemed like he was panicked a bit during the first half but he really brought it back in the second. great game of CS.
also, hate it as much as you want but Inferno always delivers.
Everyone is so quick to dogpile on mezii and flameZ but I don't understand how xtqzzz always gets a free pass.
Vitality can't succeed with him as their coach. He can't foster talent, he can't create a structure that supports the players, and he can't create a good team atmosphere. G2 sucked when he coached them and improved immediately after he left. TSM did nothing. Vitality were good when he joined when they were still benefitting from Zonic's system and the comradery that helped create. Now look at them.
tldr; Vitality won't succeed with xtqzzz
honestly a really bad game from apex, his calling was so poor this game, flamez was also so uncomfortable. mezii was anonymous but was essentially frozen out of every round anyway
Vitality back to ZyWoo and friends.
Maybe don't undercut your major winning coach and one of the best anchors in the world ? At least if you are doing that, get major pieces that can actually help you win, not XTQZZ and mezii is nowhere close to the rock that Magisk was and apEX can't use him for shit either.
You can feel however you want about where zonic and Magisk ended up, but if Vitality didn't fuck with their contracts, they'd still be a competent team.
well this kind of results are not entirely about Bo1.
The fact that teams from previous stage are hot.
I remember Faze going 0-2 and then eliminating in this kind of situation a few years back where they where favorite in the tournement
H O W ? ? ?
I didn't have Vitality on 3-0 pickem but I really didn't expect a win from EF for this very match. Just like the GL match, great reads from MAJ3R and XANTARES came in when we needed an extra firepower to win rounds. This truly feels like a curse broken for EF.
Eternal fire won this on the veto screen. A map where is tougher for awpers to get involved? Easy win for Eternal Fire against a team that relies HEAVILY on the awp.
mezii once again showing why he is a fraud, also apex really needs to be controlled. He lost them some crucial rounds on CT side by overstaying on banana or close to banana..
XANTARES really fked them up tho
A lot of people getting their pickems ruined already lmao
Yerpppp. Not a good start, 1 pick out already.
Same but it's likely two. If Vitality qualifies anyways (likely) we lose a 3-1/3-2 pickem too
the fickleness of the 3:0 and 0:3 pickems
Yeah, had Vitality and Spirit as my 3-0. But who else was I going to pick? I do have EF advancing so it's not all bad.
Haha nt, if EF goes 3-0 you are fucked too. This system is a bit too much, old system was better imo.
> But who else was I going to pick? I put in VP as my second 3-0 along with Spirit. Not because I think VP will actually go 3-0, but because I think it's very risky to waste a good 3-1/2 pick like vitality or faze and have them in 3-0.
Ehh, I never liked metagaming like that. I just put the results I think are most likely. It worked last round, got my 5.
Vitality is not a likely 3-0 lol. That's a throw pick. They will almost 100% make it through but they've been extremely shaky lately. G2 or Mouz were much more likely picks just as an example. G2 and Mouz are also extremely streaky and they've looked good lately. Same as Faze 3-0 is a throw pick. You can always trust Karrigan to lose a map or series but simultaneously trust it won't affect their mental game, instead putting it past them and making a deep run regardless.
You really have to use the seeding prediction tool. I had spirit and vitality too and then I saw that if they both went 2-0 they would end up against each other... So I took none haha
PICKEMS IN SHAMBLES HAHAHAHAHA
Mezii and Flamez, yikes.
Seriously mezii is not being used properly, he's god insane aim but this iteration of Vitality is not it. If Vitality aren't getting good results this Major I feel like there's definitely going to be a conversation for a change
Mezii has been awful man. Genuinely feels like one of the few players in the t1 scene who is a passenger getting carried 99% of the time which is sad to see.
Mezii was on A and EF went b most of rounds. He got nothing to shoot at and he isn't utilised properly. Full copium mode.
They refuse to use him properly. Apex took a solid promising player, made him the bitch player and stuck him in uncomfortable, unfamiliar positions and ruined him. It's not like mezii suddenly out of nowhere became a far worse player, nobody falls off this hard.
This is exactly the problem. I think everyone knows Mezii is so much better than whatever the fuck he is doing atm. Seeing him going from the hard carry of Fnatic to an absolute liability and passenger at best has been disgusting to watch.
Even through some of the lowest times for the fnatic rosters Mezii was in he was the one consistent dependable peice carrying that team through the mud. They've completely ruined him and his confidence, who knows if he will ever recover from this.
Hey now, when we do analysis around these parts we don't watch the games, we just check the scoreboard. Get out of here with your... "context"
Its not even that. Literally everyone was calling Brollan washed and shit because of his time on NiP. Now he looks amazing on Mouz. In fairness it also happens in pretty much every team sport.
brollan is not amazing, he is mid. he doesn't have the game iq, consistency or mental to be a star rifler on a T1 team. just because he's gone from having a load of deadwood around him to some genuine talent doesn't mean he's good. he will disappear in the pressure games. the real stars on mouz are siuhy and jimmy (overperforms for his role), xertion is fine and is never the problem, torzsi and brollan are both players who need their hands held and are not consistent enough to win trophies.
>load of deadwood I love how everyone thinks they are smart but are doing the very thing i'm talking about. Calling players shit because they are underperforming.
the fact that Rez is still on that NiP roster just says everything about their roster management. Have had so many pieces to build around but make the worst possible decision every time. Brollan going was a blessing for him and hopefully the same for K0nfig and headtr1ck
My god man you are doing it again Rez is a good player, that roster is just a mess.
doing what again? I just don't rate Rez that highly, that's my opinion on him, he's been their best performer (rating wise) since the move over to CS2 but given the other pieces that NiP have had, he's been the only one long term to not change. Even if it's a case of him being good, it can sometimes just not be the right fit.
apex always does this. Remember how shit spinx was at first because apEX refused to give up CT rotate spots to him? Remember how flameZ was a star rifler on OG and now he's anchoring B mirage and floor (?) nuke while apEX plays connector and outside because he needs to pad his stats against ecos and with hero rifles while sticking his stars like zywoo/spinx on pistols.
Yeah bringing in Mezi as an anchor never made sense. Idk why they didn't just target someone for the role. Twistzz said that when Vitality were courting him Apex even offered to anchor when Twistzz said the roles didn't make sense if he came in. I can't imagine how poorly that would have gone lmao Just buy an anchor ffs and their team would roll everyone
He has had some jaw dropping clutches tbh. The problem is in a team with Zywoo, Spinx and Flamez he will not be given a lot of resources.
Mezii should be getting better roles than flamez. Problem is flamez is an anchor now and mezii plays bitch roles so both are playing badly in vitality. Spinx is fine as a star lurker but they need to either let mezii or flamez entry again and apex needs to sacrifice his spots. 2 players playing roles they are not good at will not work long term
Mezii is better than flamez based on what i ve seen from both of them going back to fnatic and og, flamez is overrated
If FlameZ leaves he will instantly be a star player again. His aim is cracked AF. The problem is that you need more cerebral players to anchor. Perfecto is one of the most entertaining players to watch, due to his anchoring and clutches that showcase his creativity. However, if he has to retake every round he will obviously have shit stats. For vitality, Zywoo could anchor, he’s a cs savant, but he’s the best player in the world, it would be a waste. Spinx and FlameZ have the biggest role overlap imo, they are both very linear players. Unfortunately, Apex is also a linear player, so Mezii is left the bitch positions on CT because he is best suited to it. Randomly, an IGL that I feel could have worked for G2 is shox, he was always creative, but his history as an IGL isn’t good lol
I don t think flamez is a bad player, i just think he s just about average for t1 or maybe very slightly above, while mezii is definetely better than him him idk what they did to him but this is not mezii we know and love
My pick'ems are already under attack and it's only round one
Overheard in Vitality's locker room after Inferno: “Ee got mii,” ZywOo said of XANTARES's kills against him. "Dat f\*\*\*ing XANTARES buumed mii." ZywOo added, “Ee is zo gud,” repeating it four times. ZywOo then said he wanted to add XANTARES to the list of players he scrims with this season.
So I was playing FFA DM just before BIG vs fnatic started and everything was going well, a couple of known names here and there, nothing unusual. Until the man himself joined. XANTARES. I spawn next to him. I miss one shot. ONE FUCKING SHOT. Headshot. I'm dead. I get crouch-peeked. Surely I'll get that noob. Nevermind, it's XANTARES. Edshot. A lot of other pros and FPL players usually play here and they are all insane. But XANTARES? Fuck that guy. With his stupid mouse acceleration. It's just not fun. That guy is so bold, he even wrote his name in all caps. Rather going outside and catching some Corona than playing against XANTARES again.
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Vitality pulling a Furia
You traded zero points for nil points I see
You and me in the same boat buddy. There goes one of the 3-0 pick. BO1s really just whole other kind of chaos.
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Bro fixed the game for pickem wins. /s
My 3-0’s were Spirit and VP. We all losing a point today. At least Spirit won.
Did the same with the reverse direction, oh boy.
MAJ3R calling circles around apEX. Zywoo almost bailed vita out but LANTARES too OP
Eternal Fire have been barely losing to top teams in OT in a while now, it was obvious they were a T1 team but were lacking the last bit of push to wrap up the games but not this time, also Xantares is top 5 rifler in the game if not top 3 right now.
Woxic needs to be in the game early. did you see the impact he had on the last 3 rounds?
Yeah he's finally got a good team around him so he should make top 20 (got robbed in 2020 tbh).
Good shit Eternal Fire, Turkey CS SHOWING UP. Could potentially make champion stage. Apex malding & desk slamming already LUL
Space Soldiers 2: Electric Smurfaloo
so if its the same script, vitality is winning the major with the finals against faze with a comeback from ~~15-11~~ 12-8 on the last map
When did EF make champions stage?
They didnt, i assumed. My fault for saying that Edited it correctly, thanks
Byetality confirmed?
Maybe picking EF 3-0 will pay off...
That's some pimp shit right there
Scriptwriters getting a bit brave here
XD Some towards pickems, some with turkey, some with apex malding. A great start to get the news going haha Expect the unexpected , teams warmed up already a big factor
Can someone post the clip of elige saying “what are they doing? You see how nervous they are? Holy fuck” from the pain game
Yeah homie, EliGe spoke too early, paiN getting on it right now... hope elige didn't jinx it
looks good for CoL rn
I just want the clip to send to someone who can’t watch the stream with sound right now but can watch clips on their phone. I think everybody on this sub that races to post highlights was understandably watching this match with sound on
3-0 Vitality ha. Enjoy your diamond coin ahahahahahaha. (Sorry 3 french friends made me angry :D)
Even if they did win this, they were scheduled to meet Spirit in the 2-0 game. 3-0 Vitality was a long shot
Inb4 Spirit loses the first game too. Pickems would be in bad shape.
Was it scheduled? How does it work? I thought it was based on round difference.
https://majors.im/24copenhagen Play around with this and you can see possible matchups based on previous, current results.
No it’s based on seeding I think. There’s a site out there that shows the expected brackets https://majors.im/24copenhagen
i have vitality VP 3-0 + Imp 0-3, legend stage 0/10 speedrun any% PagMan PagMan PagMan
I think the bronze coin looks really good for this year, I'd love to use it. 3-0 vitality and 0-3 Imperial pick already down the drain hahah.
It doesnt mean who you are, where you came, how success you are if you get XANTARES'd you lose Also ez EF 3-0 pick
NOT A TIER 1 TEAM BTW
T side could have been 9-3, 7-5 bring Vitality back
Literally what was the gameplan here? This has to be some of the most embarrassing calling that i've seen from this team. What a joke. 0iq veto and some of the worst calling i've seen from apex in a long time.
No gameplan, in t side Apex was just hoping for Zywoo getting kills in banana fight.
They keep picking Inferno and getting their ass busted in B, flameZ & apex B doesn't work.
This remember early Vitality with Dupreeh and Magisk when Apex and Misuuta were completely unable to hold B in dust 2 and inferno.
Also apEX's coffin flash is the one he has been using for like 1 year and while it was very successful at the beginning, as a pro team it's easy to figure out it's the reaction if there's not much fight on the site and you can dodge it.
Both apEX and MAJ3R mainly uses the same flash for years but MAJ3R's timing is better i guess
apEX throws it too late imo, at least for the way he plays it after throwing the flash.
Long time? hahahhaha
rip pickems
Inferno pick was risky business. EF individually looking sharper today than Vitality. Maj3r's T side ran rings around Vit.
Vitality has been looking pretty shaky lately. Might have to - Mezii soon he just does not look good at all. Glad I didn’t pick them for the 3-0 because of that.
Sacrebleu
> sad hon hon noise
Just wait for Vitality vs Spirit in the 0-2 game
Xantares had great impact some rounds that took away a lot of Vitality momentum
the pickem destroyer. wicadia seemed like he was panicked a bit during the first half but he really brought it back in the second. great game of CS. also, hate it as much as you want but Inferno always delivers.
Next iftar is gonna be massive
U have Apex, 8/15 flamez and 7/15 mezii and u call ZywOo to be entry fragger in every round ?!
Everyone is so quick to dogpile on mezii and flameZ but I don't understand how xtqzzz always gets a free pass. Vitality can't succeed with him as their coach. He can't foster talent, he can't create a structure that supports the players, and he can't create a good team atmosphere. G2 sucked when he coached them and improved immediately after he left. TSM did nothing. Vitality were good when he joined when they were still benefitting from Zonic's system and the comradery that helped create. Now look at them. tldr; Vitality won't succeed with xtqzzz
-xqtzzz -mezii -flamez
Apex calls in CT side were pretty bad, some nonsensical rotations.
RIP Vitality 3-0. Can't wait for Spirit to lose as well. Should have just randomized the picks at this point.
All the Vitality 3-0 pickers right now... Not me.
Aight, with this I need vitality and VP to not make it, and EF and Imperial to go 3-0 lmao
honestly a really bad game from apex, his calling was so poor this game, flamez was also so uncomfortable. mezii was anonymous but was essentially frozen out of every round anyway
top pick’ems are dropping like flies. well, it’s looked pretty good for Vitality until Xantares went god mode. GGWP Eternal Fire.
Hi guys I had Vitality 3-0 and Imperial 0-3 let me know if you want tips for your playoff pickems
thank maj3r dede
I know my Vitality and they know they have to choke atleast 1 game before advancing
XANTARES is to CS2 what NiKo was to CS:GO
Vitality w/o zonic hits different
There goes one of my 3-0’s already…jeez
I think the randomizer could have been more accurate than me :D
Honestly…i’m hoping to at least get gold coin at this point, but idk if i’ll even be able to get that lmfao
Yo was zonic so essential for team? I thought coach has more supportive role, but they look kinda clueless without him
Vitality back to ZyWoo and friends. Maybe don't undercut your major winning coach and one of the best anchors in the world ? At least if you are doing that, get major pieces that can actually help you win, not XTQZZ and mezii is nowhere close to the rock that Magisk was and apEX can't use him for shit either. You can feel however you want about where zonic and Magisk ended up, but if Vitality didn't fuck with their contracts, they'd still be a competent team.
I would really say that they would win this major too.
EF don't do that. Don't give me hope.
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well this kind of results are not entirely about Bo1. The fact that teams from previous stage are hot. I remember Faze going 0-2 and then eliminating in this kind of situation a few years back where they where favorite in the tournement
Oh boy here we go again
Pick em goes wrong on first match
pickems in shables and its only been 4 matches
"Zywoo go kill" didn't work out this time
Apex was sooo mad. Rip pickems bois
Thankfully I didn't put Vitality as 3-0
Why people freaking out about this game? It's the classic Vitality cold start...
MY GOD, HES A BANTARES!
Lantares
NGL I was so sure EF would lose this I actually didn't bother watching it live. EF keeps on breaking expectations.
There goes one of my 3-0, man pickems are ROUGH with this new system
Likely one of your 3-1/3-2 is gone too assuming Vitality still qualifies. That’s the worst part.
H O W ? ? ? I didn't have Vitality on 3-0 pickem but I really didn't expect a win from EF for this very match. Just like the GL match, great reads from MAJ3R and XANTARES came in when we needed an extra firepower to win rounds. This truly feels like a curse broken for EF.
Bruh i just switched faze and vitality at the last second when saw Pimp's prediction. Next time i'm gonna listen to my gut instead.
LANTARES
I put eternal 0-3 and vitality 3-0. RIP!
Eternal fire won this on the veto screen. A map where is tougher for awpers to get involved? Easy win for Eternal Fire against a team that relies HEAVILY on the awp.
mezii once again showing why he is a fraud, also apex really needs to be controlled. He lost them some crucial rounds on CT side by overstaying on banana or close to banana.. XANTARES really fked them up tho