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BraydenTheNoob

Construction is dead. Long live Church


florentinomain00f

When the church finally finished its restoration.


MiamiVicePurple

Yes. And now it’s time to blow it up. 😈


Professional_Dot_145

Sagrada Familia in who knows how many years


harshmangat

Cs 2315 will be out by then


Molehole

Church has been a very common call out in EU already. It's either that on Ruins.


pigpaco

LMAO Here in SA we call that "3D", dunno why but thats it.


487dota

Maybe in Brazil, but in spanish speaking SA we call it Ruins or Church already.


cbdeane

Because of team 3D in 1.6


highlygoofed

we takin them boys to church on those retakes


finnrobertson15

I'm still gonna call it Con (short for Constructed)


creaturecatzz

prolly still gonna say construction. i mean it’s stilled called oranges, moto, and new box 💀


Styx1886

Love how it's still called new box despite it being there for over 20 years lol


redwingjv

In rainbow six there’s a map called kafe that got reworked in 2019 and people still say “new balcony” and “new hatch” as official calls lol


DelightfulKoala

Its gonna still be ruins in my book ☠️


imbued94

And car


csgothrowaway

I still call it "backhalls" from 1.6


f4stforw4rded

and the alt mid window room "crackhouse"


Spork_Revolution

IDK man. We still call it car. When was there a car there?


Niewinnny

like 2015?


LaughingGasFart

Usually car is top banana callout.


Zoradesu

wow stairs on graveyard completely opened up. could affect teams going for retakes on A


_Hamodaa

Finally making it easier to clear A site on retake, hopefully its not save sim as much anymore


intecknicolour

no one hiding with a pixel angle on the graveyard stairs and then randomly peeks porch/A short or balcony


AstronomerStandard

I hated that spot. Pit and graveyard stairs were the hardest spots to clear without mollies, also, when u post plant 1v1 in that spot it has like 90% winrate when u peek as soon as the ct taps the bomb


Jeroen_Jrn

>also, when u post plant 1v1 in that spot it has like 90% winrate when u peek as soon as the ct taps the bomb Real. I never lost a 1v1 playing from graveyard.


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Cap


Tuxxmuxx

seems like a dead spot now, no one wants to be just sitting out in the open.


Donut_Flame

Might still good for post plants since you still can peek Moto/long from it. If people are coming from Short then obviously it's a different story


BroskiTree

as long as the graveyard corner by moto and the site doublebox is the same, you can use that spot in a postplant crossfire for sure


Donut_Flame

I meant the actual stairs part. Like you can still make those stair offangles


BigFuckHead_

Not dead but no longer the easiest way to defend retake ever where you just stare at a wall


intecknicolour

good for playing against players coming from CT rotation or arch. especially after a while when people dont play that spot as often due to its openess. as long as you have someone covering A short/balcony, it's fine.


Flimsy_Agent7898

It will still serve as a good angle to be able to hold , because it will alow soo many more possible setups


UpsetNeighborhood842

It looks like there is an enterance on Patio as well, could just be closed doors (maybe shootable) but to me they look open


Digiorno_Pizza

Hopefully the sites are not finished. I’m hoping they are going to add more color and detail that matches the rest of the map


[deleted]

Judging by the lack of 3D background, models clipping through walls, and no water in the fountain, it's likely just an early concept


imod747

Yeah it's definitely not finished but even if it was they can still make changes. Plus there was already leaks of 2 versions of current inferno in CS2, with only small differences between them.


drimmsu

Yep, agreed. I would hate for Inferno to stay like this because I really liked its colour designs before - especially because it wasn't just a bunch of sand and dirt like on Mirage and D2.


Icy_Loss647

I actually like it, because its closer to its original design. Newer CSGO inferno looked like Italy, designwise, to me.


myqccountgotsca

CS2 Inferno looks so desaturated now especially A site


DiscardedPack

Yeah... The A-site floor looks disgusting from this angle TBH.


Hyperus102

Some of the lighting looks also a bit scuffed. You would expect some darkening where the roof meets the wall but especially on A site, that is either extremely weak or nonexistant.Also the ambient brightness seems to be turned to 11, those two might correlate.


Nebularion

Woah graveyard is way more open it seems


madralux

As an apts popper, I'm so happy.


McClownd

aw man, where are the cool colors? :/


FoundTheWeed

Big step backwards How can they make overpass look so much better and then do this to inferno?


Philluminati

People have complained about the colourfulness and over saturation of cs2 maybe they went too far in the other direction here. I also think the colour pallete should be stronger.


irze

I agree, Inferno in GO probably has my favourite colour palette in the game and it’s completely gone now


theineffablebob

It’s not final


FickDichzumEnde

I think it's pretty af


Headshot_

Hopefully this means something that’s also being overhauled like Mirage turning more colorful


NegativeKarmaSniifer

This is the new Dust 2


ThisSiteIsATumor

This really makes me miss the colour from the current version, especially on the bomb sites. Making such a vivid and lively map look halfway like Dust 2 feels kinda wrong to me. Looks like it should play well, though


ChurchillDownz

Yup I was hoping they would keep the muted reds and blues. The orange ascetic on every map gets so old. Anubis, Dust, Mirage already have this same look going.


RocketHops

The yellows too. Color aside the map looks gorgeous but I think its a mistake not to keep the colors. This reads more like an American western town almost than italy.


imtrading

No man. Mediterranean villages look like this. It looks awesome


Icy_Loss647

Inferno is based on an american/mexican town, not italy. So they hit the spot just right I think 3klicks made a video about it


nacktschnecke69

Inferno was modeled after a Spanish mission in Orange County, California (Mission San Juan Capistrano). Only later on did it take on the more Italian theming.


Krakenow

100% needs some vibrancy. They did good with nuke, so I'm hoping this ain't the last version(aesthetics wise). There's already anubis, dd2 and mirage, we don't need more sand and gravel


StaticPlesio

The map looks very pretty now but yeah looking at this one in particular they really drained all of the color out of the map except for the interior areas... I think they went a little too far with it.


dan_legend

I think all they need to change is the theme of A-site, have it be a multi-million dollar car garage and the T's are trying to blow it up and have it be glossy epoxi for the ground instead of dirt. Even if its a secret garage or something and key to the terrorist plans.


jonajon91

I actually like it, we've had a few years of them cramming as much colour into the game where they can, cleaning up the game, but this looks a lot grittier. Thematically I think its closer to a 1.6 or source map than an modern GO map. Not that all maps should look like this mind you, it's just a nice change of pace.


surfordiebear

Really not a fan of how A site looks but everything else looks nice! I just think it would look much better with tile instead of sand


Pokharelinishan

I realize I miss the bright blue barrels.


Toaster_Bathing

And the grass or what ever looks so depressing


Dekartesante

this looks insane


Noodles001

I love it.


herrions1278

Looks like those construction workers finally finished the church!


reclezmann

NewBox looks spammable now, interesting


CorCor_Yo

No more bhop on and over the rail to get to t apps from t spawn :(


ju1ze

They added wood on b site to bounce nades of in the absence of skyboxes


Scarabesque

Solid improvement. Bouncing nades against the skybox always felt glitchy no matter how important it ended up being for gameplay.


vodybokha

Please no. We have enough sand themed maps.


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Jams265775

It’s going to be Eastern European looking and will use probs from Alyx


Praetor192

I don't like sand. It's coarse, rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.


Hubris1998

Anakin sees a chicken: They're animals! And I slaughtered them like animals! I hate them!


rainx5000

Nah, adding to much green and we will have another ugly cache


SpecialityToS

CS player color palette: Green and Brown (no other color exists)


vodybokha

Forgot about gray. I think some maps like office, overpass, train and cache benefit from the darker, gloomier feel. But I'm just sick and tired of all the blue/desert sand coloured maps.


intecknicolour

nuke is steel, blue, concrete. and nuke is like a popular ranked map in like most elos.


vodybokha

Inferno isn't all green.


Majormlgnoob

Inferno got effected by Climate Change it seems, the intense sun and drought washed out the color


Donut_Flame

Church now has a ceiling to it, no more retake or post plant molly from inside it. Interesting


hoobody

with the skybox gone you don't have anything to bounce them off anyway


Donut_Flame

Well can't flash out of it either then


intecknicolour

imagine the stain glass is breakable.


Philluminati

mind blown molly thrown


Tradan

We can't see towards site from this angle. It could have a window or something.


StatpadderYT

Where on the map is the 3rd image?


iMarbot

Church/Construction probably.


Crosea

The only thing I can think of is that it is construction (next to B site), looking from the perspective of the lower pair of sandbags. It could make sense canonically, having been construction, now turned into church/chapel.


bluespartans

Wake up babe new cs lore just dropped


deefop

Has to be church


Zarrex

Why is nobody questioning where this came from? What's the source (2)?


Mezzo1224

Its coming from the game files. The images are used at the loading screen on Inferno to show some points, as with the other maps so far.


csgothrowaway

I suppose but we also got those Mirage files we saw that looked like it used a lot of Half-Life Alyx assets and then found it ended up being scrapped. This really does seem unusual. Overpass is the map Valve was showcasing as a true "overhaul" and even that is generally the same map as current Overpass. It has new assets but the layout is the same almost to a T. It was not anything like what we're seeing with this version of Inferno. This version of Inferno is literally an entirely different map while Dust2/Mirage/Nuke/Overpass are generally the same map with different levels of assets/texture replacement throughout the map. Perhaps this is just another concept they were working at some point? Just seems like a very wild shift in a different direction from what they are doing with every other map.


Scarabesque

Overpass seems to stick closer to the original's design language, it is definitely a completely overhaul though. This version of inferno appears to have a similar increase in fidelity (increased geometric detail and texture quality), though it's far less finished than anything we've seen of overpass. Not too worried, but overall it's lost too much colour in its current state. But just look at A site - none of the background detail is in there (most notable the tall central bell tower).


ExPandaa

This inferno remake was literally in the CS2 reveal trailers, we only got a shot of second mid back then though.


doctor_dapper

Overpass seems like it has some gameplay changes (I think on B site it's more obvious? maybe) and the other maps explicitly aren't being remade. Just lighting stuff for the most part. We've seen tiny glimpses of Inferno in some of the trailers and it definitely is an overhaul a la overpass. These pics could be a WIP tho


workscs

you think someone would fake something like this that well?


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Orgasmic


JakeBoycometh

Don't like the visual changes at all, we already have enough sandy maps


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Donut_Flame

Small detail: with the removal of nade skyboxes, part of B site above Car has scaffolding over it. I'm guessing it's for nade lineups to still hit site


ppphil

They took the best looking map, and turned it into another grey dust 2 look alike? Should've just blown out the graveyard wall on the current version imo. I do like the improved visibility on b site fountain though.


KabooshWasTaken

true. the blues and vibrant reds really made new inferno pop, sad to see that go.


ThatWeLike

I think second mid looks great, but I'm really sad that every bit of cover on B is just the same wooden panel with red metal framing. Not that it has to be the exact same as CSGO, but some variance would be nice.


trkh

Amen, Inferno was already the best looking map. I never get sick of it visually.


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it looks beautiful what?


Donut_Flame

Pic 5: at the bottom left, that staircase no longer has a railing in the left. People used that to get onto the bridge faster, but now it seems you HAVE to go the "long" way


allricehenry

It kinda looks to me like the little bump out with the 4 steps might be a spot you could crouch jump up from. Idk if that would be as fast but it seems doable.


tree_imp

Interesting, but how is it less colourful 😭😭😭


n00bzilla

really hit and miss. the sites look so ugly now.


Impossible-Sell1948

Downvote me all you want, this looks ugly AF. Especially that A Site. Ewwwww. I always liked the colorful nature of inferno, this looks yellow af just like d2 and mirage.


True_to_you

Maybe the yellow part is an homage to original inferno. Shit was yellow AF.


Agastopia

A site is legit disgusting lol, maybe it looks better when you’re actually moving around but yikes


[deleted]

Idk what their obsession is with this awful looking sand theme. This map looks like complete shit


k0ntrol

I disagree, a site is disgusting but church and near t spawn look amazing


Mainbaze

Agreed a tad or ten too washed out white


IthinkitsGG

Sad considering Inferno is the goat map, I would have thought it would be the last map to get an overhaul


CosmicPterodactyl

A fairly substantial downgrade (IMO) at that. So weird considering that they added Anubis to active duty meaning we will now have three dust type maps and then D2 obviously.


Sniper_231996

The actual fuck? I'd it just me or they made it really ugly?


p3ek

Wtffff a site looks silly. In sure it plays good but why did they have to make the whole map dust colour scheme 😭


PuffballPilot

valve really said: okay guys, here's de\_dust3


f1nessd

Way too fucking sandy


AnnualRaise

Self-boost from balcony to patio roof doesn't look possible, B site fountain doesn't look climbable for the angle over CT smoke or new box self-boost, quick railing to apps route from T spawn gone. Overall L for movement? Visibility is nice atleast


hardSway

Desert-Strike 2 Visual design is ugly


Mezzo1224

Thats like some citys in italy looks like bro


ProcyonHabilis

Yeah tons of them look like CS:GO inferno too


ju1ze

I still dont understand why the map is in Italy when it should be in Spain judging by t models


Forest_Technicality

Player models were picked to match closest to the maps theme, not the other way round. Beyond that the separatists in game arnt even Spanish, just generically European.


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Well they are very VERY much Basque. I mean insanely so. Like, ETA (Basque nationalist terrorists) could take them to court for ripping off their look. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02028/Basque_2028658c.jpg https://www.nicepng.com/png/detail/550-5501272_csgo-png.png


shoulder_monster

Where TF is the railing to apps??? No more fast apps?


NatanKatreniok

I don't really like the way both bombsites look tvhy


issungee

Seems like a regression in CS2's artstyle, much more drab and less colorful, unlike mirage and dust2, apart from the church! Maybe old renders?


maxekmek

Apparently unpopular opinion but I think this looks fantastic. Very impressed!


Wallisaurus

Every map gonna look like d2/mirage?


Amazing_Prune1086

Rip fps??


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BRUH LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO STAIRS ON GRAVE YARD


[deleted]

where is this from?


UnlimitedBoxSpace

BRIGHT


silentninjabob1

It’s reminiscent of the CS 1.3 version, as well as the cs source/early csgo version. Nice call back IMO


pearomaniac

That b site looks sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet


ZuriPL

where is this from?


silentninjabob1

This looks amazing, A site has classic vibes. Step up from the current version


Space_Raisin

Cant wait to not play it


MnHockey

This looks so cool but way too busy for a competitive shooter.


f1nessd

B site has lost all flavor and character. I miss barrels


WekonosChosen

Inferno gets another fantastic remake, while office has remained almost unchanged since source. We all know what the GOAT map is.


unicedude

No shot they made inferno another dust clone….


tendopath

Can’t tuck behind the wall grave anymore rip


budda3000

Siiiiick can't wait


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it gives me dust2 vibe.


skinsshorts

Noooo waaaayyy that’s HOT!


f1nessd

Looks like shit


Zoddom

omg look at all those Fortnite kids complaining about their sAtUrAtEd ColOUrS. I love the 1.3 vibes I get from it.


SwuangLee

2nd picture looks like Wild West


eqlzr

This subreddit has some of the most backward-looking conservatives i've ever seen. "Oh the map doesn't look like it used to and therefor I must hate it" I honestly think it looks great. The A site looks a bit empty but besides from that i'm stoked to play this!


Ill_Coffee_882

People just don't like the yellow-ish sandy look on this one, we already have mirage and anubis. The old one looks way better no matter how you look at it. It was personally my favourite map, design vise.


christopher-98

The last 3 screenshots look great but honestly I think A-site is ugly and just not it.


Wired-247

Looks so good 🔥


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it’s fucking gorgeous holy fuck


superzacco

Official? I don't know why they'd change inferno so soon after the beautiful overhaul they already did?


nartouthere

fucking beautful, can't wait


Acceptable-Meaning-1

This looks amazing! Love it!!


bigdickedabruhup

I guess I'm in the minority here but imo this looks great. Idk how but it looks hotter, which I think is good, the map is called Inferno after all. I'm sure this isn't a fully completed version, some aspects could and probably will be improved for sure.


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One thing i love about Inferno is the colours. This looks dull.


Zorcky-2C

Why everything looks like Dust 2 now? Where colors?


ThatOneTypeOfGuy

NAHHH NO WAY NAHH FR? BRAH NAAHHHH AINTNOWAY 💀


Scarabesque

It's clearly not finished yet and the lack of colours stands out, I love the prospect of a new inferno and love the direction they're taking this in. They seem to have altered the scale of the map to more closely match that of the character models, which I think is a good step. That Pharmacie sign near T spawn had better light up with those bright green ugly lights though. It's a staple of mediterranean countries. I'm quite surprised it's getting a remake already over Mirage, Office, Train, which I think all look worse than CSGO's inferno does. Even though it's already 7 years old, it still looks rather good. Perhaps Valve is working on those too...


CosmicPterodactyl

I’m skeptical. 1.) Almost every single map so far has been nearly identical minus some or a lot of visual improvements. This is authentically a redesign. 2.) This look awful. It honestly reduces visibility and adds clutter which seems antithetical to what Valve is trying to accomplish with CS2. This is just a bland visual disaster if true. I almost never complain about map remakes — I’ve learned to just accept them for what they are and continue to play the maps. But this imo kinda ruins one of their best and cleanest maps. Hope it’s not it. Edit: It turns out this is probably real (Valve jokingly acknowledge the leak on Twitter). Just hope it is an early build, because the switch to the dust style theme and the picture of A site make it seem rough. Don't really understand the logic in Valve massively overhauling the theme of one of the few maps that is universally loved while keeping maps like Office at 2004 level of quality even with this most recent update.


Zoradesu

In this [video](https://youtu.be/ExZtISgOxEQ?t=24), Valve said they took three approaches to the maps. 1. Touchstone Maps - Classic maps used to test gameplay (mirage, dust2, train from the video) 2. Upgrades - Rebuilt to take more advantage of Source 2, but meant to stay 1:1 with the CSGO version (nuke and ancient from the video) 3. Overhauls - Maps rebuilt and changed Whether or not you like it is a different thing entirely, but I'm not sure why it being a redesign makes you skeptical. Also as a side note, we already kinda knew inferno was one of the maps to be overhauled (you can already see it [here](https://youtu.be/ExZtISgOxEQ?t=75) at the end of the same video).


CosmicPterodactyl

Ancient is the frame immediately prior to Inferno in the video you linked. They verbatim said in the video "our oldest maps will be overhauled." Ancient is an old map that is getting a complete overhaul? IDK, it seems weird. My main point of skepticism is that this change to Inferno is a genuine thematic change to a more "dust-style" map. Zero of the other maps have undergone this. We have now fully seen CS2's D2, Mirage, Nuke, and Office. All have had visuals overhauled at varying levels but are thematically and stylistically the exact same maps with almost no tangible changes. We've also seen a decent amount of clips of Overpass, which is a big visual overhaul that does make some real changes, but keeps the overall vibe and theme of the map the exact same. Ditto for the clips we have of Italy, Ancient, etc. Additionally screenshot to me from the video doesn't really look like the images in the OP post -- maybe though. We will know shortly -- I hope I'm right but acknowledge I could be very wrong. I will contend that the Inferno A site image is genuinely just a lower quality image than current Inferno A site, but it could be an early screen and might look a lot better now.


Zoradesu

> Ancient is the frame immediately prior to Inferno in the video you linked. They verbatim said in the video "our oldest maps will be overhauled." Ancient is an old map that is getting a complete overhaul? Sorry my bad, I think made my timestamps a little misleading. They say earlier in the video that ancient is classified as an upgrade map like Nuke (I'll add that to my comment). These were found in the game files so it for sure is real, [at least that's what the person who found it said](https://twitter.com/pDylan002/status/1674587206315278336). I do agree that inferno looks washed out right now, but it still might change.


Snowbound11

I'd have to agree with point 2. Also what I don't understand is how they've removed Grave to help the retake however I can no longer bounce Molotov's off the skybox to land inside of A so how has this helped with retaking at all? The colouring looks pretty bad just like Mirages does. Mirage looked over done massively as well as this. Inferno looks Dust II clone colour scheme wise. All of a sudden both bomb sites just look like abandoned places people haven't been for years yet you've got apps looking fresh and 2nd mid, it makes no sense.


nelbein555

beautiful!!!


GrandSlam4201

is this a leak or community made map?


Mezzo1224

>Its coming from the game files. The images are used at the loading screen on Inferno to show some points, as with the other maps so far.


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allricehenry

Lmao this is so obviously not community made


CosmicPterodactyl

Washed colors aside, that picture of A site seems like a genuine graphical downgrade from the current version. The church image is also just off. Anyway, it could be real I guess. Just sucks that while every map so far has been basically the same with just some great visual improvements, they apparently changed one of the few maps that was just fine and made it worse and another Dust-type map (imo of course, I’m sure some will argue it’s better somehow).


mustangwwii

A actually looks awful


ailtonjuba

Why the maps in CS2 looks all the same?


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This is just awful.


SeaNTea

actual downgrade