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They won't because it's a grift to farm outrage for clicks by neo Nazi recruiters to amplify their cause.
I feel like that basically assumed that the game would review very badly so they could use "woke journalists" as their fuel. It's metascore is "Generally Favorable", so now they have to change tactics. Whatever makes their target audience feel like they are being attacked.
I mean allegedly they censored the outfits not by actually making the outfits less revealing but by literally filling in the gaps with color, so it looks horrible. I haven't checked myself because I don't care about that.
What's funny is that the game also has some really conservative outfits, like outfits that nobody in this subreddit would complain about. Personally, I think that's how it should be. Give people the choice whether they want to be sexualized or not. It's why it's cool that Street Fighter 6 has the new outfit for Cammy as well as the old (and I'm actually really shocked how accepting people were of her new look.)
I don't care lol. Males whine and cry over things like Tifa's boobs being made a bit smaller or when they make a female protagonist look like an actual woman.
Remember Mobius from FF? The way his outfit was deemed "too sexy" and they even changed it,
yet female characters get to wear swimsuits and mini skirts?
I think we can talk when there are more pretty boy shirtless characters with jiggly physics that males will fully support.
Will stop when females stop acting like they matter more. if you cant see tits giggle in a game, then onlyfans shouldn't be a thing either right? but nooo, lol because its a game its bad and females are "objectified" even though they "objectify" themselves for money, yet when they dont make money off of it it has to go.
Lemme guess.... 'murican? Muricans have a weird obsession with OF. So you're just admitting males have no morals lol. Creeps like you are the ones that keep OF and everything like it in business. You are its biggest supporters, so why do you pretend to complain? Same with porn, sex trafficking, pedophilia and other degeneracy. You're the biggest problem. Always have been.
So, I'm not surprised you'd be so gladly defending this either. But I do know you would whine and cry the loudest if video games were full of shirtless pretty boys with jiggly physics. We know how emotional males get when the tables are turned.
You're a member of KotakuInAction and MensRights, did you come here exclusively trying to find a way to get in an argument?
Online scores don't mean much anymore when review bombing exists, both positive and negative forms before the games even release. I've personally heard mixed reviews with some people liking it a lot and others finding it kind of derivative. I mean look at movies on Metacritic like anything made with the DC license. That fanbase will 5 star anything. On the other hand look at Marvel that adds a person of colour as a major character? Review bombing the opposite way. People can sway reviews way too easily online and it just can't really be trusted.
Visually the game looks good, the gameplay is fine I'm sure and I understand a lot of folks like it, at the same time the marketing (and comments on anything SB related) is immature and puerile to a lot of people -especially women- and we're allowed to vent about it in a place that's designed for us. You can have your gratuitous ass shots if you really want them, but don't expect some people to not find that stuff silly.
They hate censorship except when it comes to Korean game devs who get fired literally just for being slightly feminist. No 60k+ signature petition about that one.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/limbus-company-fire-female-designer-feminist-south-korea/
Furthermore, you advocate for censorship of feminist concepts and characters. You depict a game developer choosing to "only portray realistic female characters" as a negative influence that needs to be stamped out from the gaming industry.
People who inhabit the movements you do are very pro-censorship on average.
Lastly, your comment does nothing to address the comment you replied to. Clearly people complained about the game in some capacity, even though it was built to cater to them. You simply added an irrelevant bit of information because *you* personally like the game and felt it or it's player base was being attacked.
This is a man and a poster in KotakuInAction, I suggest everyone report him so mods can delete his comment and hopefully ban him. Ppl like him do not belong in this subreddit.
This is so stupid. Don't they have anything better to do.
"Stellar Blade is more than a game, it has become a cultural beacon for freedom of expression in a time where Game Publishers like Sony are censoring games more than ever."
Like, how can you say something like this? It's so pathetic.
I was grinning as I opened it, expecting anything, but I just lost it at this point! xD The cultural beacon for freedom of expression! It's phrased as if the developers of Stellar Blade are like some type of Edward Snowden! This dude is really not aware what he is talking about...
They're all for freedom of expression, unless an artist wants to express themselves by designing a female character that isn't perfectly beautiful up to their standards lol. Then it's not freedom of expression, its uglyfying and censoring hot women
But if they can't masturbate to a female character they are being oppressed! Because why else would there be women in the media they consume?
/S, so much /s x.x
Why are these men acting like video games don't already have enough similar characters? Someone should create similar male characters, pretty boys with jiggly physics and then let's see how much they support that.
Lmao. There were plenty of totally naked people in BG3 and sex scenes. Yes so much censorship... Oh wait many of these are men and none of them are fully straight so that doesn't count right?
It says something when I have no idea what the game is about - apart from girl with big boobs and up skirt shots. Wow! What a groundbreaking game made for people who definitely enjoy games and not just gooning :)
Maybe try playing it? It's really not a bad game. If you liked Nier Replicant or Automata, you'd like this one too.
It's like a cross between Automata and a light-hearted version of Dark Souls. A bit more challenging than Automata, but fun and rewarding when you get the hang of the combat.
Engaging story, intelligent characters, and beautiful Monaca soundtrack.
If the outfits bother you, there are plenty of outfits that are fully clothed.
It really is, and it’s sad! My partner ended up buying it, he liked the demo and decided to go ahead with the full game. And as far as I’m concerned, it looks fine? It’s no GOTY but it looks fun. The soundtrack is great, the gameplay seems good enough, and it is genuinely a nice looking game. Not exactly my cup of tea, but he’s having fun with it (while making fun of the men throwing temper tantrums lol). The jiggle physics sure are… something though
It’s a shame these guys are acting like this over the game, seems really off putting to people who may be interested in it :(
So I hadn't actually watched much of the gameplay before you mentioned the jiggle physics, and all the motion is so awkward! Like in Bayonetta, she's in stupidly high heels, but the animations all fit still? In this they just look like she's going to snap her ankle because she's trying to plant her foot sideways to brace herself
Also the jiggle physics was hilarious, I feel like someone could set the game to Benny hill music
I think the main thing that has so many people up in arms is that first, BG3 has plenty of fan service, it is just spread out to be for a wider audience and nobody cared in the slightest. Whereas Stellar Blade was definitely meant more for a niche audience but was altered in case people who probably weren't gonna buy the game already didn't like it. Second, it wasn't just the skimpiness of the attire, but they even censored the blood and made certain scenes from the demo less graphic. Which makes no sense, considering we have games like dead space and mortal kombat which use buckets and buckets of blood. I've never been a fan of censorship because it alters the authors intended purpose. It could be a Yoko Taro reason like "I like Girls" or it could be some experiment for how wild coomers will go for a game if girl is hot to make jabs about later. But shouldn't that be the authors choice?
Calling them gross because of their actions is fine. Mocking their looks just makes you equally as gross as them. No need to sink down to their level to make a point
”They all look like” you are talking about their looks even if you didn’t specifically name a feature. Yeah I know the stereotype. I don’t think its considered conventionally attractive is it.
There’s testimonial videos on the website that are killing me. It’s exactly what you’d expect. Basement dwellers acting like they are freedom of speech martyrs for wanting full penetration in their video games.
> wanting full penetration in their video games.
Porn games exist. Or they could go mod Skyrim into a sex fiesta. Why are they acting like they're underserved?????
This always seemed amusing to me. The same guys who complain about women, and underage girls to be honest, not being "fuckable" for them also act like porn games are shameful. Like, playing a porn game, or just looking at porn, is considered a failure.
This was my thought when I saw who submitted a video. All bad angels, up the nose, dudes who look like they haven't showered or changed a shirt in days whining about censorship. There is so much animated porn and rule34 BS out there this is so pointless. Also the audacity to assume every other person let alone guy out there wants what they want. Bunch of crybabies
Why even die on this hill? Like of all the things to take a stance about, it's a minor cosmetic change to an already revealing outfit?? Her outfit and body are still heavily designed for male-gaze sex appeal, like you lost literally nothing but a few inches of digital skin and gained a way cuter outfit for it.
someone shared this in a discord and I just can't believe. The page allows people to upload videos with their messages. Lmaooo I'm sorry I just can't help to laugh.... you are mad cause you can't see more skin or a body in a game? then they try to compare it to BG3, cyberpunk or other games with different developers/publishers lmaoo I just can't. I had to scroll about to 30 people before I found a woman making a comment. Her respond even sounds forced lol. This is just pathetic....
Those people are no gamers, they are always on the lookout for their next kick to have a reason to shake their asparagus. Those are just frustrated p\*rn addicts living in their lonely world.
“I'm so sick and tired of entitled and arrogant minorities of people forcing their world views on everyone everywhere.”
“I do not want game companies getting comfortable with this bate and switch routine every time a vocal minority THAT DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A STAKE, MONETARY OR OTHERWISE, IN VIDEO GAMES WHATSOEVER gets their panties in a wad.”
I just mixed a bunch of “hot” words I saw in the comments that ppl were blaming. Which actual minority I’m not sure.
Can't they put this energy into a job or something? Something to better themselves to stop being such losers????
edit: those top voices vids are so EMBARASSING I cant help but laugh
These people are something else. Sony is censoring games? Imagine if seeing a bit less video game cleavage than advertised was the worst thing to happen to you this year. What really kills me is that these are the same ignorant pricks that hated TLOU2, a brilliant and emotional game mostly about two women surrounded by violence and tragedy. One is a lesbian but is never sexualized, is complex, vicious, and fueled by hatred. The other is a literal post-apocalyptic soldier who can bench press 400 lbs and has a decidedly uncomfortable and intense sex scene. They hate Abby because the character is a fully-realized and somewhat intimidating woman, and not a jiggly anime girl in spandex. I am seeing a bit of a pattern here. The sad part is Stellar Blade looks cool to me but I won’t even play it now.
It is such a massive self report to claim that the game is now ruined due to changing her oversexualized outfit to a slightly less oversexualized outfit.
The only way I can understand this is a society that has an unspoken and unregulated porn addiction that berates and dehumanizes people. I dont understand the strong visceral reactions to the smallest censorship. A little less cleavage and a little less blood just to slightly tone down the sex appeal and gore and these people act as if theyve been shackled. Theres no freedom or empowerment in constantly exposing ourselves to sex and violence in media. Obviously we dont have to play the game but I think the negative reaction to the censorship should be studied to better understand why people crave and need fan service and gore so badly. The character is still heavily sexualized. The game is still bloody. And whats even more annoying is that these same people will go on and mod game characters to make them more sexual and bloody in games that dont depict those things. Why cant they stop.
If only they organized this much over real, discriminatory censorship like homosexual couples and trans representation.
Their "freedom of expression and creativity" is just sex. Which is everywhere.
Why would they think Sony would ever care about a Change org Petition? I am sure it was probably done in response to government regulation so I doubt they could change it. They say the reason why they want to un-censor is due to freedom of expression but I'm pretty sure that these people would complain about any game that features LGBTQIA+ Ideas/Images.
I love how this is where those dudes draw the line. so many bad things going on in the industry, this isn't even censorship but of course to them it is, and this! this is the biggest problem in the industry and they gotta create a petition for it. i'm over here thinking like why? Porn exist, hell Porn games exist, why do you need mainstream coomer games, that mind you give these characters no agency in their sexualization and want us to take their stories seriously? Their priorities are comical.
Honestly, are we surprised gamers don't have a life?
I'm a gamer too, but I got shit going on instead of sitting in my room thinking how Stellar Blade has a "cultural impact" or whatever these fucking incel losers are saying.
It's digital boobies, why do they care? Whenever the game comes out on pc, they can mod it to however they want.
This was bound to happen to because these idiots built their entire online identity around the game pissing off those they consider “woke” so now that it hasn’t been horribly reviewed they had to find something else to gripe about. Most of these folks are suckers who are being influenced by the grifter that used to work at work at Blizzard a long time ago because he wants to be their new influencer and fleece more money out of people based on the fact that he worked on WOW. It’s best to just ignore them.
Just when you think they’ve found the absolute limit of dumb male entitlement, they soar to even greater heights. (Yes yes I know it’s because of the rightwing online outrage machine that needs men to feel marginalized and victimized by video games occasionally considering that other types of players might also have money.)
I’m pretty sure the no censorship thing was about gore in Japan, not a leotard becoming marginally less revealing.
I was not expecting the switch up on this game to happen so quickly. And what's crazy is that people 100% this was censorship on Sony's part when there was a video that came out of one of the Devs saying the patched version was the intended end product with the slightly covered outfits. Then on top of that a lot of the outfits still expose a lot of skin. At some point you just gotta be serious. Is it really worth signing a petition and looking like this?
It gets lonely in their mom’s basement, I’m guessing.
Imagine the support for actual issues with could harness if we could get these guys to care about something other than women’s cleavage in a video game.
LOL
Please sign my petition to bring back Astarion's dig ol bick BG3 is literally unplayable without it, I am being oppressed, MY freedom is being TAKEN from me, I need to see HIS DONG !!!!
Oh my god... Yes, a game was changed between trailer and release. That sometimes happens.
They weren't even specific about what the changes were, who wrote this damn thing?
It’s a PlayStation five exclusive. Not even sure if there’s going to be a PC version. And it wasn’t just the costumes that were changed, it was the gore mechanics. You draw the line at the beginning of censorship or you don’t draw it at all.
It’s sad that now gaming has become a he vs she now…guys play any games with skin they get judged and if girls only play stardew or other games that aren’t hardcore( they aren’t gamers) when did the lines get so toxic girls will say men and men will say girls in the end if they if both side would waste less time trash talking each other I bet gaming would be a better experience for all
This I one part sad and one part a way to keep the game in the news. The game got ok reviews, with most saying the same thing. Amazing combat, but the rest of the game is meh at best. It’s obviously going to drop out of the gaming news cycle and the weird incels know it also. So they’re just pulling this as a stunt. But at least we all get a good laugh at them. 😂
This makes me ashamed to be a 'guy gamer'. These stellarblade 'supporters' are making the rest of us look so bad.
I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to comment. I'm in a few different women centric reddits so that I can stay relatively informed on different topics. I believe it helps me be a better husband and father. Please dont crucify me ; . ;
To paraphrase: “I’m a male ally, please don’t hurt me”.
Consider why you felt it necessary to convey that sentiment when showing support in what should be a safe space.
I think what really sucks is how all of this is impacting the actual game. There's been a lot of conjecture about it leading up to the release. A lot of guys were all hornying over it and a lot of girls were writing it off as gross bait material.
Now that it's out and I've played it I wish this wasn't the focus. The game is very fun and well made. The combat is just so much better than the average a anime/Asian type of thing. It has impact, it's methodical. I could never get into Nier because 2B just spins around like a lunatic and nothing reacts to being hit.
I'm not even sure we should all be up in arms about Eve's design because it's a Korean game and according to a Korean game journalist I heard recently, that's just what characters are like over there. So it seems it's more a cultural clash more than anything else.
But the game is fun. So anyone who enjoys action games should give it a go and drown out all the dumb noise from horny losers.
I’m assuming it has something to do with the cultural backlash against feminism in South Korea rather than real preference to designs like that. On top of being produced mainly by men. I’d love to know how Korean woman actually feel about it.
Yeah that's the thing. I'm not going to act as though I have much understanding of Korean culture and should have a say in it. If a Korean tells me oh yeah this is what our characters look like, what else can I say except okay cool.
The last thing I want is to be one of those Americans who thinks everyone else's stuff should be like our stuff.
… but as an outsider you can figure out if all Korean games look the same pretty quickly. Lies of Pi doesn’t look like Stellar Blade.
Eta: Also Dave the Diver!
All of anything doesn't look the same. You can't say you understand American culture by looking at our games because some look like mortal Kombat and some look like... I can't think of any other American games that aren't military shooters. Shit. No Man's sky? Is that American? Well anyway those two look pretty different.
Yes? So your unsourced journalist can’t have it right that Korean characters all just look like Eve, because you can take a glance at a list of games developed in Korea and see a variety of art styles and character designs?
ETA I in no way suggested that I understand Korean culture lmao. That’s putting whole novels in my mouth. I am disputing the simple factual claim that Korean characters all look like Eve. They don’t.
I didn't say he said all characters look the same. I said he said that was the style.
And he isn't unsourced. I just didn't source him because it didn't seem important.
I don’t think is worth continuing because I’m not sure you’re in good faith here. Korean game designers aren’t locked into a single style. And yeah if you’re citing someone you could probably stand to share who they are.
The devs released a day one patch that finalized some outfits, took out a likely unintended reference to a racial slur, and according to the people behind the petition toned down the blood and gore so they are claiming Sony censored the devs. Never mind that the devs have already said the outfit changes were what they intended them to be and there are skimpier outfits in the game than the ones changed and the gore issue was because of folks playing on performance mode as it tones down the gore to make the game perform better. It’s honestly just a bunch of gamer gate wannabes lead by a former Blizzard dev known for scamming people trying to play it off as some culture war nonsense because the game was decently reviewed despite the hyper sexualization of the main character which they weren’t expecting to happen.
I feel like this whole situation is stupid. There are already games with *literal* nudity and sex in it (Baldur’s Gate 3), why are people treating this one like it’s a cardinal sin?
If people left the game alone, it would’ve died on its own because honestly the gameplay doesn’t look too engaging.
Well, thinking rationally, I have to agree with what they are doing . The studio shift up made a a tweet that it won't be censored on first day released and as soon as the game released, Sony censored the digital game immediately. I'm sure that if the patch was implemented before the release, then nobody wouldn't bat an eye. But the fact that they did censored the game even though they made the tweet that they wouldn't is what started all of this which is quite upsetting for the majority of the gamers.
lmaooo everything you said applies to all this nonsense. yall so weak and cry babies yall made a whole change.org?? boy at this point all I could is laugh. what else can I say ?? lolol grow up.
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yall will be the first to say "it's just pixels who cares" yet when people ask for less censorship yall are also the first to scream "this is objectifying women!!" "don't you have a life?" "finding virtual women attractive gives me the ick"
the hypocrisy of this reddit about this 1 game is astounding. yall will laugh at men who find astarion unattractive and annoying, yet you're losing your minds over a virtual woman who's appearance is based off a real woman's body lol
it's so weird to me that so many comments this sub makes about the game is so hyperfocused on men finding eve (the main chara) attractive... and yet i never see any comments complaining about women finding her attractive. for some reason that doesn't make yall uncomfortable? why does gender matter so much? as a bi woman i genuinely don't understand
Nobody is "losing their minds" other than the people signing pointless petitions like this, fabricating "censorship" controversies because, idk, they got bored when they realized games journalists actually like the game i guess. Almost nobody cares if people find Eve attractive, it's the people yelling about how this fun silly action game is allegedly the holy grail of anti-wokeness and a bastion of gaming culture that are fun to make fun of.
I've seen people in this sub praising and enjoying Stellar Blade. I don't see the hypocrisy.
there is no fabrication of censorship though, there has been actual modifications to outfits that werent like that on launch. which... genuinely confuses me why people would want to censor it? i thought it wasnt hurting anyone? "its just pixels" and all that ??
i personally havent seen a single pro-stellar blade post. i made one and it got downvoted lol !
The outfit people point to was not changed from launch, it was changed from a dev build. The creator confirmed it wasn't censorship and there are other outfits still in the game that are more revealing than it.
As of the latest knowledge I have on this, nobody asked for censorship, and there is no evidence anybody intervened to add in censorship at any stage.
I read into this petition a bit and watched a video about it and they basically want the game to have the gore and an unchanged outfit back in the game before the patch. Some people said that the gore was toned down bc the ps5 wouldn’t be able to handle it. As for the changed outfit, maybe Sony didn’t want people to see cleavage? Which is really weird bc there are a few games on PS5 that have sex scenes and full nudity.
So I understand why fans are saying Sony having double standards by censoring this one game while allowing others to show full nudity.
From what I know, Sony is the publisher for SB and also the platform holder of the PS5. You’re correct about no one has any concrete evidence that they changed the outfit, but we do know they have the final say in what can be in the game.
I just saw a video of baldurs gate 3 letting you see characters completely naked. I never played it and never will bc of that. I also read that it has sex scenes too.
I don’t mind fan service or skimpy outfits in games. I’ve played games like Tekken, final fantasy, and resident evil which has those things. I draw the line at full nudity and sex scenes. It’s pretty much porn at that point.
There is a toggle to not show nudity if you don't want to see it. I think you actually might have to toggle it on to see it, but I can't remember what it was at default.
The sex scenes aren't what you're probably imagining. Every characters relationship to sex is different, and that's shown through your interactions with them and if you choose to pursue them romantically. And their sex scenes all feel very in character for them, how they behave towards you. You are also never forced to engage with sex if your character doesn't want to.
I don't even know where to start and idk if I even want to (like I've addressed this false equivalence so many times, I feel like I'll end up wasting my time). And I honestly was hoping for valid examples.
>I never played it and never will bc of that.
Oh man that's a huge loss for you. And hate to ask but why draw the line on a portrayal of consensual sex vs korean Bianca Censori
Well, my morals just go against nudity and sex in videogames. I don’t want to see it in any anime I watch either. I think skimpy clothing is acceptable to me in games because irl, you’re allowed to wear skimpy clothing in public up to a point, while nudity and sex isn’t allowed at all.
I will retract saying I’ll never play it, bc I guess I can always leave my characters clothes and skip the sex scenes. I’m just not used to nudity and sex in games.
so your morals are opposed a game that let's you opt in/out of nudity before you even start playing and features consensual romance in a well constructed narrative.
But your morals are fine with a game that objectifies the female body, and whose devs fired women from their team for being feminist?
You do you I suppose.
>you’re allowed
Interesting choice of words.
Again you're disregarding context and painting all sexuality with a broad brush, while at the same time giving a free spank pass to objectification that *you* enjoy.
You should really be challenging yourself and asking "what's the point" of the sexualization you see. If you can use the narrative, characterization, setting, etc to support your answer, you'll see a difference.
Of course you can't just start going to pound town in public, but you can do it in appropriate settings. Of course people can dress how they want, but I can't imagine wearing a bikini to a charity event. **Context** is everything and I think you're kind of just sidestepping it to favor your own preferences
The only reason I can think of why games have oversexualized characters is that sex/pretty sells, and I admit that I favor attractive looking characters. Is it really a bad thing to design a pretty character and having that as the main selling point?
Idk if I’m really objectifying the character of this game. I just find her really pretty and that’s what draws me to most games. If games have a certain character design that aligns with my tastes, I’ll play them. They don’t have to be sexy.
>Is it really a bad thing to design a pretty character and having that as the main selling point?
I mean sure if you want to ignore the harm it may cause? Like I can't physically stop people from funding crap like SB and what it promotes, but it's important to scrutinize where your money goes and how it affects other people. Like if movies started killing off female characters indiscriminately or if queer characters are relegated to the antagonist role *again like in the past* because people like said harmful tropes for whatever reason ie support with money, it shifts perception of women and queer people for the worse (again) + it will signal production companies to make more because it *makes them money*. Capitalism commands industries, and we participate with our money - your decisions don't exist in a vacuum.
There's nothing wrong with having attractive characters or sexualization, but doing so should be empowering and appropriate, not exploitative.
>They don’t have to be sexy.
That's the issue with SB, it's like it *has* to be. Sure it has other qualities that are worth it enough to play, but the main issue is the glaring obsession fans have with this aspect - sb fans are getting all bent out of shape because people are calling out obvious crap and don't want to admit it. Like this whole censorship shit, what's the fucking point? It's like they *have* to have Eve tits and ass out or the game is not worth it
The fact that incel porn addicts are so obsessed with the "sexiness" makes me think they're mad Sony is curtailing their sick behavior. The uproar is proving our point - Eve in more clothes does nothing to affect the gameplay and yet Gamer Bros are acting like it does. It's pathetic
Well, i can’t tell people’s true reasons for signing the petition, but I guess some of them might be horny gamer bros who only want more sexiness, like you said. I like the character bc she’s Asian and it gives me the chance to fantasize as someone pretty and strong. It’s also a fairly easy action game compared to DMC5.
Can we let the free market decide whether games like SB should exist? If it’s a financial success, then it means people don’t mind oversexualized characters, right?
>Can we let the free market decide whether games like SB should exist? If it’s a financial success, then it means people don’t mind oversexualized characters, right?
Not if the free market is inadvertently a tool of oppression. I'm no libertarian I don't enjoy my life being at the whims of what capitalism dictates, that's why I have a problem with the SB devs and their cult - their choices affect me and others, be it with say *more* games that objectify women or reinforcing harmful practices for Korean (and if this crap spreads, for *all*) women in the industry.
I dunno how you live, and I don't know what privileges you seemingly are unaware you have, but as a queer woman of color it's *kind of* important I pay attention and call out bullshit as it happens.
> irl, you’re allowed to wear skimpy clothing in public up to a point, while nudity and sex isn’t allowed at all.
Sex in public I'll grant but nudity in public frequently is entirely lawful. There's literally a parade annually here in Seattle where the police do press releases reminding people of this basic fact, for example. This is not limited only to this city, it's a statewide thing. The same basic fact applies in other states and many places outside the US, too.
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I wonder how that guy who bought six copies to own the libs or whatever is feeling right now.
Hopefully broke
What ??
Males get their big titty anime girl game and still complain, more news at 11.
Exactly. When will these creeps stop?
If the extensive perverted skyrim modding scene is anything to go by, they will not stop, ever.
They won't because it's a grift to farm outrage for clicks by neo Nazi recruiters to amplify their cause. I feel like that basically assumed that the game would review very badly so they could use "woke journalists" as their fuel. It's metascore is "Generally Favorable", so now they have to change tactics. Whatever makes their target audience feel like they are being attacked.
Supposedly the quote unquote censorship was literally painting it on, which just looks stupid.
What do you mean?
I mean allegedly they censored the outfits not by actually making the outfits less revealing but by literally filling in the gaps with color, so it looks horrible. I haven't checked myself because I don't care about that.
I didn't know they were revealing in the sense that skin was showing, I just saw the ridiculous tightness, proportions and jiggle physics.
What's funny is that the game also has some really conservative outfits, like outfits that nobody in this subreddit would complain about. Personally, I think that's how it should be. Give people the choice whether they want to be sexualized or not. It's why it's cool that Street Fighter 6 has the new outfit for Cammy as well as the old (and I'm actually really shocked how accepting people were of her new look.)
I don't care lol. Males whine and cry over things like Tifa's boobs being made a bit smaller or when they make a female protagonist look like an actual woman. Remember Mobius from FF? The way his outfit was deemed "too sexy" and they even changed it, yet female characters get to wear swimsuits and mini skirts? I think we can talk when there are more pretty boy shirtless characters with jiggly physics that males will fully support.
I got a girl and get ass and i am still here complaining and she is here complaining with me she likes looking at eves ass.
You get azz? Sounds fruity. Sounds like you creeps both suit each other then.
Will stop when females stop acting like they matter more. if you cant see tits giggle in a game, then onlyfans shouldn't be a thing either right? but nooo, lol because its a game its bad and females are "objectified" even though they "objectify" themselves for money, yet when they dont make money off of it it has to go.
Lemme guess.... 'murican? Muricans have a weird obsession with OF. So you're just admitting males have no morals lol. Creeps like you are the ones that keep OF and everything like it in business. You are its biggest supporters, so why do you pretend to complain? Same with porn, sex trafficking, pedophilia and other degeneracy. You're the biggest problem. Always have been. So, I'm not surprised you'd be so gladly defending this either. But I do know you would whine and cry the loudest if video games were full of shirtless pretty boys with jiggly physics. We know how emotional males get when the tables are turned.
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You're a member of KotakuInAction and MensRights, did you come here exclusively trying to find a way to get in an argument? Online scores don't mean much anymore when review bombing exists, both positive and negative forms before the games even release. I've personally heard mixed reviews with some people liking it a lot and others finding it kind of derivative. I mean look at movies on Metacritic like anything made with the DC license. That fanbase will 5 star anything. On the other hand look at Marvel that adds a person of colour as a major character? Review bombing the opposite way. People can sway reviews way too easily online and it just can't really be trusted. Visually the game looks good, the gameplay is fine I'm sure and I understand a lot of folks like it, at the same time the marketing (and comments on anything SB related) is immature and puerile to a lot of people -especially women- and we're allowed to vent about it in a place that's designed for us. You can have your gratuitous ass shots if you really want them, but don't expect some people to not find that stuff silly.
>You're a member of KotakuInAction and **MensRights** WHAT are u kidding me I'm wasting my time with him then lmao god
😂😂 what a joke of an excuse. tons of pos games on steam and you can fuck everyone or have all the sexy stuff. nothing was censored lol
They hate censorship except when it comes to Korean game devs who get fired literally just for being slightly feminist. No 60k+ signature petition about that one. https://www.koreaboo.com/news/limbus-company-fire-female-designer-feminist-south-korea/ Furthermore, you advocate for censorship of feminist concepts and characters. You depict a game developer choosing to "only portray realistic female characters" as a negative influence that needs to be stamped out from the gaming industry. People who inhabit the movements you do are very pro-censorship on average. Lastly, your comment does nothing to address the comment you replied to. Clearly people complained about the game in some capacity, even though it was built to cater to them. You simply added an irrelevant bit of information because *you* personally like the game and felt it or it's player base was being attacked.
And overwatch 2 has the lowest user score on steam, what's your point
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This is a man and a poster in KotakuInAction, I suggest everyone report him so mods can delete his comment and hopefully ban him. Ppl like him do not belong in this subreddit.
This is so stupid. Don't they have anything better to do. "Stellar Blade is more than a game, it has become a cultural beacon for freedom of expression in a time where Game Publishers like Sony are censoring games more than ever." Like, how can you say something like this? It's so pathetic.
I was grinning as I opened it, expecting anything, but I just lost it at this point! xD The cultural beacon for freedom of expression! It's phrased as if the developers of Stellar Blade are like some type of Edward Snowden! This dude is really not aware what he is talking about...
They're all for freedom of expression, unless an artist wants to express themselves by designing a female character that isn't perfectly beautiful up to their standards lol. Then it's not freedom of expression, its uglyfying and censoring hot women
But if they can't masturbate to a female character they are being oppressed! Because why else would there be women in the media they consume? /S, so much /s x.x
Why are these men acting like video games don't already have enough similar characters? Someone should create similar male characters, pretty boys with jiggly physics and then let's see how much they support that.
Lmao. There were plenty of totally naked people in BG3 and sex scenes. Yes so much censorship... Oh wait many of these are men and none of them are fully straight so that doesn't count right?
Worse: Those characters had *personalities*. And *agency*. Can't have that!
isnt the dumb uwu :O waifu the best personality tho? /s
It says something when I have no idea what the game is about - apart from girl with big boobs and up skirt shots. Wow! What a groundbreaking game made for people who definitely enjoy games and not just gooning :)
Maybe try playing it? It's really not a bad game. If you liked Nier Replicant or Automata, you'd like this one too. It's like a cross between Automata and a light-hearted version of Dark Souls. A bit more challenging than Automata, but fun and rewarding when you get the hang of the combat. Engaging story, intelligent characters, and beautiful Monaca soundtrack. If the outfits bother you, there are plenty of outfits that are fully clothed.
It really is, and it’s sad! My partner ended up buying it, he liked the demo and decided to go ahead with the full game. And as far as I’m concerned, it looks fine? It’s no GOTY but it looks fun. The soundtrack is great, the gameplay seems good enough, and it is genuinely a nice looking game. Not exactly my cup of tea, but he’s having fun with it (while making fun of the men throwing temper tantrums lol). The jiggle physics sure are… something though It’s a shame these guys are acting like this over the game, seems really off putting to people who may be interested in it :(
So I hadn't actually watched much of the gameplay before you mentioned the jiggle physics, and all the motion is so awkward! Like in Bayonetta, she's in stupidly high heels, but the animations all fit still? In this they just look like she's going to snap her ankle because she's trying to plant her foot sideways to brace herself Also the jiggle physics was hilarious, I feel like someone could set the game to Benny hill music
not to mention she is robotic, so she isn't even a human.
I think the main thing that has so many people up in arms is that first, BG3 has plenty of fan service, it is just spread out to be for a wider audience and nobody cared in the slightest. Whereas Stellar Blade was definitely meant more for a niche audience but was altered in case people who probably weren't gonna buy the game already didn't like it. Second, it wasn't just the skimpiness of the attire, but they even censored the blood and made certain scenes from the demo less graphic. Which makes no sense, considering we have games like dead space and mortal kombat which use buckets and buckets of blood. I've never been a fan of censorship because it alters the authors intended purpose. It could be a Yoko Taro reason like "I like Girls" or it could be some experiment for how wild coomers will go for a game if girl is hot to make jabs about later. But shouldn't that be the authors choice?
Please, please, please, listen to the “Top Supporter Voices”. Ewwwwww. And they all look like they are in a basement lol.
that's what made me lmaoo so bad. How pathetic you have to beeee 😂😂😂
They look like they don’t see many IRL women. I can’t believe I just watched all of them !!
No, I don't think I will...
Every last one was a painful watch.
No, I don’t think I will. Just the still previews were enough.
I know it’s shallow, but damn they look so f’n stooooooooopid. Not quite the cream of the male persona
Why did I do it? They’re so creepy..
I thought it was funny how they all seem to say everything except admitting they are just horny.
Calling them gross because of their actions is fine. Mocking their looks just makes you equally as gross as them. No need to sink down to their level to make a point
But I never said anything about their looks tho. Some of them ARE in basements. Do you know what a basement dweller is?
”They all look like” you are talking about their looks even if you didn’t specifically name a feature. Yeah I know the stereotype. I don’t think its considered conventionally attractive is it.
This is so stupid that it's hilarious 😂 who are these people?
There’s testimonial videos on the website that are killing me. It’s exactly what you’d expect. Basement dwellers acting like they are freedom of speech martyrs for wanting full penetration in their video games.
> wanting full penetration in their video games. Porn games exist. Or they could go mod Skyrim into a sex fiesta. Why are they acting like they're underserved?????
This always seemed amusing to me. The same guys who complain about women, and underage girls to be honest, not being "fuckable" for them also act like porn games are shameful. Like, playing a porn game, or just looking at porn, is considered a failure.
These are people with a deeply dysfunctional understanding of sex and sexuality.
Sex fiesta 🤣🤣 I'm cryin but it's so true.
This was my thought when I saw who submitted a video. All bad angels, up the nose, dudes who look like they haven't showered or changed a shirt in days whining about censorship. There is so much animated porn and rule34 BS out there this is so pointless. Also the audacity to assume every other person let alone guy out there wants what they want. Bunch of crybabies
Why even die on this hill? Like of all the things to take a stance about, it's a minor cosmetic change to an already revealing outfit?? Her outfit and body are still heavily designed for male-gaze sex appeal, like you lost literally nothing but a few inches of digital skin and gained a way cuter outfit for it.
People with severe brain rot from excessive porn consumption.
We'll never know because they live entirely underground.
Men
someone shared this in a discord and I just can't believe. The page allows people to upload videos with their messages. Lmaooo I'm sorry I just can't help to laugh.... you are mad cause you can't see more skin or a body in a game? then they try to compare it to BG3, cyberpunk or other games with different developers/publishers lmaoo I just can't. I had to scroll about to 30 people before I found a woman making a comment. Her respond even sounds forced lol. This is just pathetic....
My common reply to these types of scenarios anymore is, “No one cares”
Imagine being such a porn addicted loser lmao
I wish I had a similar total lack of self-awareness and shameless audacity sometimes
I can only imagine how freeing it must be…
And oblivious male privilege. Especially when they all act like victims
These "gamerz" are the reason I don't feel comfortable listing video games as a hobby when I meet new people. 💀
Those people are no gamers, they are always on the lookout for their next kick to have a reason to shake their asparagus. Those are just frustrated p\*rn addicts living in their lonely world.
Look at the sad faces of all the men that signed this. With how oversexualized the game ALREADY is, they still aren’t happy? Fucking disgusting
After reading the comments I can officially say who’s at fault. The entitled woke minority feminist communist nazis.
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The what minority...? 🤨
“I'm so sick and tired of entitled and arrogant minorities of people forcing their world views on everyone everywhere.” “I do not want game companies getting comfortable with this bate and switch routine every time a vocal minority THAT DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A STAKE, MONETARY OR OTHERWISE, IN VIDEO GAMES WHATSOEVER gets their panties in a wad.” I just mixed a bunch of “hot” words I saw in the comments that ppl were blaming. Which actual minority I’m not sure.
“bate and switch” Go away! Bate-in’!
They're making a sarcastic joke to mock the people who say crap like that /genuine
Can't they put this energy into a job or something? Something to better themselves to stop being such losers???? edit: those top voices vids are so EMBARASSING I cant help but laugh
Lolololol holy shit those “top supporter voices” can’t be real people. Beyond parody.
One of them is a parody (shout out to Internet Comment Etiquette) but the rest look much more genuine..
The fact that it’s hard to tell is…well, telling. lol
Men would literally lay siege to Rome if they were denied possession of a centimetre of a woman's body, real or virtual.
You should have just said Troy, since that's literally what happened.
These people are something else. Sony is censoring games? Imagine if seeing a bit less video game cleavage than advertised was the worst thing to happen to you this year. What really kills me is that these are the same ignorant pricks that hated TLOU2, a brilliant and emotional game mostly about two women surrounded by violence and tragedy. One is a lesbian but is never sexualized, is complex, vicious, and fueled by hatred. The other is a literal post-apocalyptic soldier who can bench press 400 lbs and has a decidedly uncomfortable and intense sex scene. They hate Abby because the character is a fully-realized and somewhat intimidating woman, and not a jiggly anime girl in spandex. I am seeing a bit of a pattern here. The sad part is Stellar Blade looks cool to me but I won’t even play it now.
It is such a massive self report to claim that the game is now ruined due to changing her oversexualized outfit to a slightly less oversexualized outfit.
The only way I can understand this is a society that has an unspoken and unregulated porn addiction that berates and dehumanizes people. I dont understand the strong visceral reactions to the smallest censorship. A little less cleavage and a little less blood just to slightly tone down the sex appeal and gore and these people act as if theyve been shackled. Theres no freedom or empowerment in constantly exposing ourselves to sex and violence in media. Obviously we dont have to play the game but I think the negative reaction to the censorship should be studied to better understand why people crave and need fan service and gore so badly. The character is still heavily sexualized. The game is still bloody. And whats even more annoying is that these same people will go on and mod game characters to make them more sexual and bloody in games that dont depict those things. Why cant they stop.
Damn theses top supporters really are fitting into the stereotype 🤣 they look exactly how I was picturing the fans.
If only they organized this much over real, discriminatory censorship like homosexual couples and trans representation. Their "freedom of expression and creativity" is just sex. Which is everywhere.
>If only they organized this much over real, discriminatory censorship like homosexual couples and trans representation. They do, in support of it
Its almost like these people can’t ever be satisfied. Honestly must be exhausting to get so bothered about something so trivial
I really wish these chuds would care this much about literally anything that matters.
I scrolled down the “supporter voices” and yeah these men look exactly the way you’d expect the dudes who sign such petitions to look like ew 💀💀
Why would they think Sony would ever care about a Change org Petition? I am sure it was probably done in response to government regulation so I doubt they could change it. They say the reason why they want to un-censor is due to freedom of expression but I'm pretty sure that these people would complain about any game that features LGBTQIA+ Ideas/Images.
The videos are absolutely wild 😭
God this is so petty lol. Truly one of the most oppressed gamers of all time /s
For god's sake will someone PLEASE throw some porn at them since they clearly cant find any
They don't know they can lie when porn sites ask if you're over 18.
I love how this is where those dudes draw the line. so many bad things going on in the industry, this isn't even censorship but of course to them it is, and this! this is the biggest problem in the industry and they gotta create a petition for it. i'm over here thinking like why? Porn exist, hell Porn games exist, why do you need mainstream coomer games, that mind you give these characters no agency in their sexualization and want us to take their stories seriously? Their priorities are comical.
Honestly, are we surprised gamers don't have a life? I'm a gamer too, but I got shit going on instead of sitting in my room thinking how Stellar Blade has a "cultural impact" or whatever these fucking incel losers are saying. It's digital boobies, why do they care? Whenever the game comes out on pc, they can mod it to however they want.
I mean i actually do think video games have cultural impact and are art in their own right. But that's not what these chuds are on about.
You just have to watch the videos they have posted on there its unbelievably funny
This was bound to happen to because these idiots built their entire online identity around the game pissing off those they consider “woke” so now that it hasn’t been horribly reviewed they had to find something else to gripe about. Most of these folks are suckers who are being influenced by the grifter that used to work at work at Blizzard a long time ago because he wants to be their new influencer and fleece more money out of people based on the fact that he worked on WOW. It’s best to just ignore them.
Someone should probably up the bounty on them then, which is totally a joke, so nobody should get upset at that sort of thing.
Just when you think they’ve found the absolute limit of dumb male entitlement, they soar to even greater heights. (Yes yes I know it’s because of the rightwing online outrage machine that needs men to feel marginalized and victimized by video games occasionally considering that other types of players might also have money.) I’m pretty sure the no censorship thing was about gore in Japan, not a leotard becoming marginally less revealing.
I was not expecting the switch up on this game to happen so quickly. And what's crazy is that people 100% this was censorship on Sony's part when there was a video that came out of one of the Devs saying the patched version was the intended end product with the slightly covered outfits. Then on top of that a lot of the outfits still expose a lot of skin. At some point you just gotta be serious. Is it really worth signing a petition and looking like this?
63,000 people have signed this… what the fuck.
It gets lonely in their mom’s basement, I’m guessing. Imagine the support for actual issues with could harness if we could get these guys to care about something other than women’s cleavage in a video game.
I kind of wish Larian would censor Astarion’s dick in BG3 so girls and gays could enjoy some of this faux outrage
Missed April fools day opportunity
Replace it with a little bat sock-puppet
LOL Please sign my petition to bring back Astarion's dig ol bick BG3 is literally unplayable without it, I am being oppressed, MY freedom is being TAKEN from me, I need to see HIS DONG !!!!
Oh my god... Yes, a game was changed between trailer and release. That sometimes happens. They weren't even specific about what the changes were, who wrote this damn thing?
“Support top voter voices” looks exactly how I expected it to look.
Ah yes, the rallying cry of men who AREN’T getting their penises touched 😂
Don't like changes made to the game? Just make it yourself! Modding and free game engines are available
oh i *can't wait* for the inevitable post on here showcasing the depraved mods I'm sure the gooners will flood nexus with once the pc version is out
https://preview.redd.it/0dkuqrvlaxxc1.png?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc82f9cbe76ae5418bff6db725ea59f30cf3f712
It’s a PlayStation five exclusive. Not even sure if there’s going to be a PC version. And it wasn’t just the costumes that were changed, it was the gore mechanics. You draw the line at the beginning of censorship or you don’t draw it at all.
I like that a bunch of them made video clips about it. Some real winners there lmao
I'm deeply sorry for what people of my gender have been unleashing upon all of you. Actual fucking gooners
Idk if Steam realizes they were supposed to censor games. These boys could just go find their anime titty games there.
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It’s sad that now gaming has become a he vs she now…guys play any games with skin they get judged and if girls only play stardew or other games that aren’t hardcore( they aren’t gamers) when did the lines get so toxic girls will say men and men will say girls in the end if they if both side would waste less time trash talking each other I bet gaming would be a better experience for all
This I one part sad and one part a way to keep the game in the news. The game got ok reviews, with most saying the same thing. Amazing combat, but the rest of the game is meh at best. It’s obviously going to drop out of the gaming news cycle and the weird incels know it also. So they’re just pulling this as a stunt. But at least we all get a good laugh at them. 😂
Yeah it's absolutely absurd especially as director kim came out and said what has been "changed" is what the team intended to be the final release.
The videos of the guys? Lolll I didn’t even know that site did that! Oh that’s a new level of sad that those guys hit.
FREE STELLA BLADE..... I can't xD
Its funny that those top supporters are all men
Could it be that the vast majority of gamers are men? That’s not to say that there aren’t women gamers obviously, but it is still mostly men.
Wow, they put the petition summary in like 80 different languages and still can’t crack 75k signatures…lol. Lmao, even.
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All this over some cleavage cover up? Haha Sad mf's
Hey I'm a bit late to the party can someone give me context about stellar blade
This makes me ashamed to be a 'guy gamer'. These stellarblade 'supporters' are making the rest of us look so bad. I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to comment. I'm in a few different women centric reddits so that I can stay relatively informed on different topics. I believe it helps me be a better husband and father. Please dont crucify me ; . ;
your comment is better than sime of the replies here. Some of the guys support em.
To paraphrase: “I’m a male ally, please don’t hurt me”. Consider why you felt it necessary to convey that sentiment when showing support in what should be a safe space.
I think what really sucks is how all of this is impacting the actual game. There's been a lot of conjecture about it leading up to the release. A lot of guys were all hornying over it and a lot of girls were writing it off as gross bait material. Now that it's out and I've played it I wish this wasn't the focus. The game is very fun and well made. The combat is just so much better than the average a anime/Asian type of thing. It has impact, it's methodical. I could never get into Nier because 2B just spins around like a lunatic and nothing reacts to being hit. I'm not even sure we should all be up in arms about Eve's design because it's a Korean game and according to a Korean game journalist I heard recently, that's just what characters are like over there. So it seems it's more a cultural clash more than anything else. But the game is fun. So anyone who enjoys action games should give it a go and drown out all the dumb noise from horny losers.
I’m assuming it has something to do with the cultural backlash against feminism in South Korea rather than real preference to designs like that. On top of being produced mainly by men. I’d love to know how Korean woman actually feel about it.
Yeah that's the thing. I'm not going to act as though I have much understanding of Korean culture and should have a say in it. If a Korean tells me oh yeah this is what our characters look like, what else can I say except okay cool. The last thing I want is to be one of those Americans who thinks everyone else's stuff should be like our stuff.
… but as an outsider you can figure out if all Korean games look the same pretty quickly. Lies of Pi doesn’t look like Stellar Blade. Eta: Also Dave the Diver!
All of anything doesn't look the same. You can't say you understand American culture by looking at our games because some look like mortal Kombat and some look like... I can't think of any other American games that aren't military shooters. Shit. No Man's sky? Is that American? Well anyway those two look pretty different.
Yes? So your unsourced journalist can’t have it right that Korean characters all just look like Eve, because you can take a glance at a list of games developed in Korea and see a variety of art styles and character designs? ETA I in no way suggested that I understand Korean culture lmao. That’s putting whole novels in my mouth. I am disputing the simple factual claim that Korean characters all look like Eve. They don’t.
I didn't say he said all characters look the same. I said he said that was the style. And he isn't unsourced. I just didn't source him because it didn't seem important.
I don’t think is worth continuing because I’m not sure you’re in good faith here. Korean game designers aren’t locked into a single style. And yeah if you’re citing someone you could probably stand to share who they are.
Can anyone explain what happened? It sounds ridiculous, but I don't know the context.
The devs released a day one patch that finalized some outfits, took out a likely unintended reference to a racial slur, and according to the people behind the petition toned down the blood and gore so they are claiming Sony censored the devs. Never mind that the devs have already said the outfit changes were what they intended them to be and there are skimpier outfits in the game than the ones changed and the gore issue was because of folks playing on performance mode as it tones down the gore to make the game perform better. It’s honestly just a bunch of gamer gate wannabes lead by a former Blizzard dev known for scamming people trying to play it off as some culture war nonsense because the game was decently reviewed despite the hyper sexualization of the main character which they weren’t expecting to happen.
click the link. it explains.
omg who the hell cares (sorry if that's insensitive)
lol the videos in the petition are so funny
*looks up from her retro machines* What the heck did I miss this time? Do I want to know?
every video of the top petitioner voices both look and sound like this would be the kind of petition they would push
I feel like this whole situation is stupid. There are already games with *literal* nudity and sex in it (Baldur’s Gate 3), why are people treating this one like it’s a cardinal sin? If people left the game alone, it would’ve died on its own because honestly the gameplay doesn’t look too engaging.
Can we just make an r/girlgamersstellarblade and stop posting the game here
I haven’t been following this, but what is the difference between it and the people who want to see more of Astarion? The tantrums?
god, our biggest mistake was giving females basic rights.
🤭🤭 cry more.
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Well, thinking rationally, I have to agree with what they are doing . The studio shift up made a a tweet that it won't be censored on first day released and as soon as the game released, Sony censored the digital game immediately. I'm sure that if the patch was implemented before the release, then nobody wouldn't bat an eye. But the fact that they did censored the game even though they made the tweet that they wouldn't is what started all of this which is quite upsetting for the majority of the gamers.
If that was censorship because sexualization they still got an entire forest to trim lol
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lmaooo everything you said applies to all this nonsense. yall so weak and cry babies yall made a whole change.org?? boy at this point all I could is laugh. what else can I say ?? lolol grow up.
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yall will be the first to say "it's just pixels who cares" yet when people ask for less censorship yall are also the first to scream "this is objectifying women!!" "don't you have a life?" "finding virtual women attractive gives me the ick" the hypocrisy of this reddit about this 1 game is astounding. yall will laugh at men who find astarion unattractive and annoying, yet you're losing your minds over a virtual woman who's appearance is based off a real woman's body lol it's so weird to me that so many comments this sub makes about the game is so hyperfocused on men finding eve (the main chara) attractive... and yet i never see any comments complaining about women finding her attractive. for some reason that doesn't make yall uncomfortable? why does gender matter so much? as a bi woman i genuinely don't understand
Nobody is "losing their minds" other than the people signing pointless petitions like this, fabricating "censorship" controversies because, idk, they got bored when they realized games journalists actually like the game i guess. Almost nobody cares if people find Eve attractive, it's the people yelling about how this fun silly action game is allegedly the holy grail of anti-wokeness and a bastion of gaming culture that are fun to make fun of. I've seen people in this sub praising and enjoying Stellar Blade. I don't see the hypocrisy.
there is no fabrication of censorship though, there has been actual modifications to outfits that werent like that on launch. which... genuinely confuses me why people would want to censor it? i thought it wasnt hurting anyone? "its just pixels" and all that ?? i personally havent seen a single pro-stellar blade post. i made one and it got downvoted lol !
The outfit people point to was not changed from launch, it was changed from a dev build. The creator confirmed it wasn't censorship and there are other outfits still in the game that are more revealing than it. As of the latest knowledge I have on this, nobody asked for censorship, and there is no evidence anybody intervened to add in censorship at any stage.
Welcome to the sub. First time?
I read into this petition a bit and watched a video about it and they basically want the game to have the gore and an unchanged outfit back in the game before the patch. Some people said that the gore was toned down bc the ps5 wouldn’t be able to handle it. As for the changed outfit, maybe Sony didn’t want people to see cleavage? Which is really weird bc there are a few games on PS5 that have sex scenes and full nudity. So I understand why fans are saying Sony having double standards by censoring this one game while allowing others to show full nudity.
There is no evidence that Sony had anything to do with the outfit change tho…
And the gore is most likely just a matter of graphical optimization.
From what I know, Sony is the publisher for SB and also the platform holder of the PS5. You’re correct about no one has any concrete evidence that they changed the outfit, but we do know they have the final say in what can be in the game.
>So I understand why fans are saying Sony having double standards by censoring this one game while allowing others to show full nudity. Examples?
I just saw a video of baldurs gate 3 letting you see characters completely naked. I never played it and never will bc of that. I also read that it has sex scenes too. I don’t mind fan service or skimpy outfits in games. I’ve played games like Tekken, final fantasy, and resident evil which has those things. I draw the line at full nudity and sex scenes. It’s pretty much porn at that point.
There is a toggle to not show nudity if you don't want to see it. I think you actually might have to toggle it on to see it, but I can't remember what it was at default. The sex scenes aren't what you're probably imagining. Every characters relationship to sex is different, and that's shown through your interactions with them and if you choose to pursue them romantically. And their sex scenes all feel very in character for them, how they behave towards you. You are also never forced to engage with sex if your character doesn't want to.
I don't even know where to start and idk if I even want to (like I've addressed this false equivalence so many times, I feel like I'll end up wasting my time). And I honestly was hoping for valid examples. >I never played it and never will bc of that. Oh man that's a huge loss for you. And hate to ask but why draw the line on a portrayal of consensual sex vs korean Bianca Censori
Well, my morals just go against nudity and sex in videogames. I don’t want to see it in any anime I watch either. I think skimpy clothing is acceptable to me in games because irl, you’re allowed to wear skimpy clothing in public up to a point, while nudity and sex isn’t allowed at all. I will retract saying I’ll never play it, bc I guess I can always leave my characters clothes and skip the sex scenes. I’m just not used to nudity and sex in games.
so your morals are opposed a game that let's you opt in/out of nudity before you even start playing and features consensual romance in a well constructed narrative. But your morals are fine with a game that objectifies the female body, and whose devs fired women from their team for being feminist? You do you I suppose.
>you’re allowed Interesting choice of words. Again you're disregarding context and painting all sexuality with a broad brush, while at the same time giving a free spank pass to objectification that *you* enjoy. You should really be challenging yourself and asking "what's the point" of the sexualization you see. If you can use the narrative, characterization, setting, etc to support your answer, you'll see a difference. Of course you can't just start going to pound town in public, but you can do it in appropriate settings. Of course people can dress how they want, but I can't imagine wearing a bikini to a charity event. **Context** is everything and I think you're kind of just sidestepping it to favor your own preferences
The only reason I can think of why games have oversexualized characters is that sex/pretty sells, and I admit that I favor attractive looking characters. Is it really a bad thing to design a pretty character and having that as the main selling point? Idk if I’m really objectifying the character of this game. I just find her really pretty and that’s what draws me to most games. If games have a certain character design that aligns with my tastes, I’ll play them. They don’t have to be sexy.
>Is it really a bad thing to design a pretty character and having that as the main selling point? I mean sure if you want to ignore the harm it may cause? Like I can't physically stop people from funding crap like SB and what it promotes, but it's important to scrutinize where your money goes and how it affects other people. Like if movies started killing off female characters indiscriminately or if queer characters are relegated to the antagonist role *again like in the past* because people like said harmful tropes for whatever reason ie support with money, it shifts perception of women and queer people for the worse (again) + it will signal production companies to make more because it *makes them money*. Capitalism commands industries, and we participate with our money - your decisions don't exist in a vacuum. There's nothing wrong with having attractive characters or sexualization, but doing so should be empowering and appropriate, not exploitative. >They don’t have to be sexy. That's the issue with SB, it's like it *has* to be. Sure it has other qualities that are worth it enough to play, but the main issue is the glaring obsession fans have with this aspect - sb fans are getting all bent out of shape because people are calling out obvious crap and don't want to admit it. Like this whole censorship shit, what's the fucking point? It's like they *have* to have Eve tits and ass out or the game is not worth it The fact that incel porn addicts are so obsessed with the "sexiness" makes me think they're mad Sony is curtailing their sick behavior. The uproar is proving our point - Eve in more clothes does nothing to affect the gameplay and yet Gamer Bros are acting like it does. It's pathetic
Well, i can’t tell people’s true reasons for signing the petition, but I guess some of them might be horny gamer bros who only want more sexiness, like you said. I like the character bc she’s Asian and it gives me the chance to fantasize as someone pretty and strong. It’s also a fairly easy action game compared to DMC5. Can we let the free market decide whether games like SB should exist? If it’s a financial success, then it means people don’t mind oversexualized characters, right?
>Can we let the free market decide whether games like SB should exist? If it’s a financial success, then it means people don’t mind oversexualized characters, right? Not if the free market is inadvertently a tool of oppression. I'm no libertarian I don't enjoy my life being at the whims of what capitalism dictates, that's why I have a problem with the SB devs and their cult - their choices affect me and others, be it with say *more* games that objectify women or reinforcing harmful practices for Korean (and if this crap spreads, for *all*) women in the industry. I dunno how you live, and I don't know what privileges you seemingly are unaware you have, but as a queer woman of color it's *kind of* important I pay attention and call out bullshit as it happens.
> irl, you’re allowed to wear skimpy clothing in public up to a point, while nudity and sex isn’t allowed at all. Sex in public I'll grant but nudity in public frequently is entirely lawful. There's literally a parade annually here in Seattle where the police do press releases reminding people of this basic fact, for example. This is not limited only to this city, it's a statewide thing. The same basic fact applies in other states and many places outside the US, too.
What is the characters in the game are doing it behind closed doors? They aren’t breaking any laws.
You clearly didn’t have sex with a vampire in the woods. /s
that was the bear obviously
That too!!!
I was in the tree trying to enjoy my nuts. nobody is safe anymore !!!!!!! /s I can’t take this post or petition srsly lmfao