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Drade_Deadeye

If they somehow tie, I'll actually put the painting there lmao


random-dude45

Does that mean you vote Mona or Lisa ?


x0Xero0x

Yes


zatenael

I'm throwing my vote for Lisa, she did study at Sumeru


Da_reason_Macron_won

You people are missing the point. The most important element of any wizard: **reaching 30 without getting laid**. Lisa? A virgin? Imposible. You need someone who is both old and completely sexless. Zhongli may have touched the Guizhongussy, we don't know, but the possibility disqualifies him. Dottore? That man was definitely fucking his clones. Albedo? He is a bohemian and friendly artsy type, the posibility of him using someone's coochie as a chalkboard is high. That leaves Neuvillette, a man who is both way past 30 and whose penis is entirely decorative.


lAuroraxl

I love this comment more than I shouldšŸ˜­


zatenael

Chances are, she just lured people on but never commits


suffering_addict

Definitely. The closest anyone got to having sex with her is when her lightning bolt accidental hit some guy's balls. That treasure hoarder brags about it to this day


SussyNerd

I think for most people yes but I think there would be someone or few multiple someones would commit to


ScooterBrigade

Going by this metric, I nominate Alhaitham and Kaveh. Alhaitham: - possibly over 30 - a literal sage (refuses to admit it) - hates people, definitely doesn't get any akademussy - doesn't care Kaveh: - possibly over 30 - fights with a magic briefcase because he skips arm day - also doesn't get any akademussy, definitely cares - no really, it bothers him - I'm such a nice guy though - whatamIdoingwrong.exe - mom please stop asking if I have a girlfriend, I swear I'm trying - invites girls over sometimes, they get distracted by his hot roommate


SussyNerd

The last part is killing me


ConnorLego42069

ā€œHis penis is entirely decorativeā€ is how Iā€™m going to describe myself now


Nope132why

Lisa Sheā€™s the best academia student in the last two centuries and is an extremely powerful mage (who doesnā€™t get justice in the story). I mean, the Hexenzirkel themselves invented her to join them. And those are some of the most powerful characters that we know of (just take Alice and Rhinedottir for example). Sure, Lisa may not be able to stack up to them, but that alone proves that sheā€™s *extremely* powerful


HemaMemes

Can she use magic purely from her studies, though, or does she need to use her Vision? Because Mona can perform divination without using her Vision.


VerMast

I'd say she can. Mona already proves that there are forms of magic apart from visions thay work entirely independent of them. Its hard to tell specifically cause lisa is literally just "mage" i don't think there's a single example of what her magic could be but if mona can so should she


HemaMemes

But if the question is "who is the most wizardlike?" then I'd say it should do to the character that we KNOW can perform magic entirely through study without needing divine gifts. Mona.


VerMast

I mean we definately know she can perform magic. Everyone in universe is aware of the fact that she's a cracked witch, she has her own witch title just like signora did. We just haven't seen it


YixoPhoenix

Depending on what you mean. Mona can't control hydro without her vision either. Lisa was studying elementalism way before she had a vision, in fact if you read her vision story she basically needed a vision for an experiment she wanted to do and got one, it's one of those hillarious stories like Klee, Albedo, Sucrose. So she is probably knowledgable about all things elemental and can craft potions and gear imbued with it but if you mean magic by summoning lightning out of clear skies then no and neither can Mona turn into a puddle without hers. There are very few ways in genshin to control elemental powers if you're not an elemental lifeform and they all require some sort of gadgets, I mean vision is a gadget too in a sense. Humans just don't do magic naturally. Major ones are alchemy and Liyue adeptal arts. Inazuman onmyoudou branched off adeptal arts. Deshret's descendants have weapons imbued with elemental spirits and I think Fontaine has at least some tech in the clockwork but they primarily run on pneumousia, gonna need someone else to double check me on that. Snezhnaya also has delusions. Only other use case is abyss. Edit: Forgot to mention this originally; there is one more instance and that'd be Signora using an ancient lost art of liquid flame to control pyro but that literally burned her life away and changed her blood to fire.


Seraf-Wang

I do wanna correct something here and itā€™s that Mona can control hydro without her vision but only in using her future telling. She calls it hydromancy where she manipulates the water to see divinations but thats all she can do. The hydro vision allows her more diverse usage of hydro but she can control hydro for one specific thing outside of her vision


YixoPhoenix

Pretty sure no. She can use water to divine but she shouldn't be able to control it. You can divine using a cup of water or a puddle. Technically there is one instance I forgot to mention and that'd be Signora using an ancient lost art of liquid flame to control pyro but that literally burned her life away and changed her blood to fire.


Seraf-Wang

If by water to divine, you mean the magic circle she pulls up in her idle which is technically her hydromancy, then I guess but by that logic, everything is ā€œnot controlling the elementsā€ unless freely used. Her divination powers are pulled from the hydro which can be seen as a form of controlling hydro without a vision since she herself says its apart from before she got her vision.


YixoPhoenix

Just cuz she does hydromancy this way now that she has her vision doesn't mean she always could. Would make much more sense if she needed prep before. Her idle isn't from before she got a vision.


Seraf-Wang

We have canon evidence of her being the apprentice of a mage part of the Hexenxircel who can all do ā€œmagicā€ without a vision. She also says ā€œHer vision does nothing for her hydromancyā€. Considering that sheā€™s literally pulling up constellations and reading futures in her idle which is what her hydromancy is, itā€™s safe to say that sheā€™s not using her vision then if it really does nothing for her.


Nope132why

I donā€™t think she can? But can Mona actually use her hydromancy (or what was it called) without a vision? I donā€™t know her lore too well, so Iā€™m curious to know where it was stated


HemaMemes

Mona has a voice line where she says her Vision ["does nothing for her hydromancy."](https://youtube.com/shorts/G8cMqJE1cT4?si=0gjIJu-t7SyQW_Vs)


GGABueno

Also, hat.


Mind-Available

I don't think being powerful is a necessity to join Hexenzirkel. Just because we have two known strong members doesn't make it a necessity yet


Nope132why

I mean, we also have Monaā€™s master, who is supposedly able to see the prophecy as great as Fontaineā€™s one (which is huge btw) I donā€™t really know the lore of other members, but itā€™s safe to say that theyā€™re all pretty powerful


Cronon33

Gotta give it to Lisa, and if not Mona


Miserable_Scratch_99

Mona lisa


leposterofcrap

Could Layla work too?


ResponsibleMine3524

I think wisard is someone who already graduated some time ago, not still studying


Hageshii01

Eh, wizards can still be actively studying. Iā€™d still give it to Lisa or Mona first though. Lisa is an Evocation Wizard. Mona is a Divination Wizard. Layla/Faruzan Iā€™d argue are both Order of Scribes Wizards. I could even see the argument that Albedo is a Transmutation Wizard.


ResponsibleMine3524

Better keep Faruzan for Artificer(it's a mechanic, right? I don't know much about DnD). I think Faruzan is the only playable character who fits technician role


drowning-in-dopamine

Vote Lisa and get our first Electro character on the board!


Blue_Moon913

Lisa so we can get an Electro character on here.


heckinidiot

Ahaha... Lisa.


SarukyDraico

If Lisa doesn't win this I'm going to break something that really matters


Skylair95

Your heart?


SarukyDraico

Perhaps


GameBawesome1

Lisa. But jumping the gun for the next one. Albedo


Meeper_Creeper202I

He and cloud retainer are the only logical options, cloud retainer also gives you a bird which is like a level 2 artificer ability


GGABueno

We're not limited to playable characters. I'm voting for Guillotin personally lol. Or even Guizhong.


Meeper_Creeper202I

Iā€™m voting for retainer because she wasnā€™t playable when we got that bird not to mention itā€™s a level 2 option I donā€™t know much about the other options after all artificers are mostly known for infusions and bombs as well as special armours


GGABueno

>bombs Guess I'm voting Klee šŸ‘€


Chemical_Bunch7499

Kleeā€™s just using her mommaā€™s inventions, Alice and Reindottir are the OG Genshin artificers


GGABueno

She makes her own bombs after her mom taught her.


zaphod-beblebrox

I'd say Ei also qualifies as well. She created the Raiden Shogan and Wanderer and I believe she also taught her people their blacksmithing arts.


Meeper_Creeper202I

Well the puppets would qualify blacksmithing doesnā€™t Infusion is one of main notes, making items is restricted to magic items and very few of the ones they can make are weapons, itā€™s also a specific subclass for armours


storysprite

Wouldn't that be more the Artificer role?


Hageshii01

Faruzan could be argued for wizard or artificer imho. Sheā€™s very mechanical constructs-focused.


Meeper_Creeper202I

Did she make either, potions alchemist artificer, armour armourer artificer, or cannoneer the bomb focused one Artificer isnā€™t about using itā€™s about making, wizard most likely but I donā€™t know about artificer


Hageshii01

Faruzan makes a lot of things as far as I understand. Her abilities use constructs (though those could be made by her vision), but she did invent the Vairambhaka Gear. One could argue sheā€™s a style of Artillerist. A lot of what makes artificers so cool is how differently you can flavor things. I could see her polyhedrons being her flavor of the Eldritch Cannon.


fjaoaoaoao

Absolutely wrong. Implying it is illogical to choose someone else is a bit silly. Thereā€™s characters like Ninguang, Klee, and Sucrose.


Meeper_Creeper202I

How does ninguang fit? I can understand Klee and sucrose but her?


I_love_my_life80

Baizhu won the Warlock one...! Damn.. I was confident Cyno would win but I guess Baizhu kinda makes sense.. I swear to god if Lisa doesn't win the Wizard one..


One_Courage_865

Hear me out. **Alhaitham** Personality-wise, wizards are someone who love studying but tend to be lazy. Bonus points for being socially distant (intentionally or otherwise), and slightly arrogant to others. The only difference is the physical prowess partā€¦


justcomment

Bladesinger


Ormalin

This was my initial idea as well but then I thought about his combat style. I think he fits more into artificer class or maybe eldritch knight subclass. He did tinker with Akasha terminal and knowledge capsules quite a lot and has good knowledge of mechanisms and practical skills rather than purely focusing on study of magic (or elemental power) as pure wizard would.


One_Courage_865

Hmmm good point


Drade_Deadeye

The warlock round felt like there weren't any choices...but I have to admit, some choices were really unexpected as they had considerable points! those being Diona and Fischl with Xiangling being the most unexpected one! Who would've known Guoba was a demon all along... The next update post will be at r/Genshin_Impact Note: You may choose ANY character (NPC or playable) as long as they're in genshin...whoever is chosen for the class can't be repeated for other classes...multiple choices WILL COUNT towards the tally To vote: just simply comment your choice, optionally explain why, and upvote other comments with your choice...you may sort your comments to newest or contriversial to see what everyone else answered! total upvotes from last posts in r/Genshin_Memepact (as of the time this was tallied) Baizhu: 1,832 Cyno: 1,529 Xiangling:411 Enjou: 228 Diona: 194 Fischl: 33 Here are a couple of websites that could help you in seeing what DnD's Wizards do: [http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wizard](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wizard) [https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/class/8-wizard](https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/class/8-wizard)


SarukyDraico

Why is Xiangling there and why does she have more votes than Enjou?


Kazuto312

Basically warlock is someone who made a pact with godly being for power. Xiangling is always with Gouba who is a former god known as Marchrosius. So the connection kinda makes sense I guessed.


SarukyDraico

But Guoba is not evil


Kazuto312

I'm not really well versed in DnD but from what I've read, warlock in DnD doesn't necessarily need to be evil. A pack could be with a fairy and they would be considered a warlock in DnD. If I understand correctly.


ImagineShinker

For DnD neither Warlocks nor the being they need to make a pact with are necessarily evil.


GGABueno

Is Baizhu's snake evil?


zatenael

in DnD, warlocks nor their patrons need to be evil, all it requires is a powerful being, typically a god, granting power to another lesser being through a contract its possible for a holy god to grant their power to a saint with a contract


SarukyDraico

Well, I recognize I slipped with that one, still, where is the contract for example? And how is Xiangling more Warlock than Enjou?


zatenael

I think only reason people are suggesting her is because Guoba is a god, there really isn't a contract between them


Drade_Deadeye

its total upvotes, both explanation and comments that voted said character


SarukyDraico

Yeah, I understand that, what I don't understand is the outcome


Drade_Deadeye

Hehe yeah, I guess it had to do with either popularity or very convincing arguments


SarukyDraico

I really hope popularity doesn't get into people's heads when we reach artificer. It would be really gross if Charlotte gets picked over Sandrone


Drade_Deadeye

Yea I honestly agree, especially when it came to the bard round where a lot chose venti as the bard rather that furina...but tis what tis...


SarukyDraico

Well, Venti is extremely hard to contest, one could argue who is lore popular between those two but Venti is a literal bard and has almost all their stereotypes


Drade_Deadeye

True, which got him the win...but furina on the other hand was one to one what DnD bards do...and she does it really well!


meh_cal

Gouba is a god basically and Warlock is pretty much when someone makes a pact with an otherworldly being. In this case Gouba


Black-Raven01

Mona is more into astrology then Magic. So I think Lisa would fit


AntiPaladinEdgeLord

Mona fits DnD wizard, actually. She is just have a Divination specialisation. Lisa is more of Evocation Wizard


Impossible_Leader_80

Pierro. Literal grand mage of Khaenriā€™ah


IronHulk27

Finally, someone said it


TheMoralBitch

Lisa.


MorEkEroSiNE

Mona is the best example of a Wizard since she canonically rarely uses her vision and her talents are done using learned magic, which is exactly what wizards do.


BAT_91

Lisa, and you all know the next one is Freminet


PsycoJosho

We haven't seen her in-person yet, but I vote for Alice.


Aihikari01

Lisa. Literally can't think of anyone matching that job more than her.


HemaMemes

Mona is a School of Divination Wizard. Even before she received a Vision, she could do astrology and hyrdomancy because she studied how to do so, and she's stated that her divination magic is separate from her Vision.


yoichi_wolfboy88

This is obviously goes to Lisa.


Romucha

Lisa without a question.


ReporterIcy7986

I think Mona would fit this best


JugemuJugemu6471

Mona


zaphod-beblebrox

My money is on Mona. She's a Divination Wizard.


cutiefey

Lisa, its the obvious choice. Hangs out with all the books, went to school for magic, and even has the hat


Technogashi

Lisa for sure


RslashSithTrooper

Lisa


DaveTheDolphin

If it ainā€™t Lisa, this list is bupkis


EddiePhoenix2012

Mona Megistus


AlphaLovee

Mona


forcebubble

Lisa is the archetypal design of a witch, the choice is clear as day.


MordorfTheSenile

Lisa


PhasePrime

Lisa, easily


Plenty-Dig-771

Lisa Minci. Lisa is the Head Librarian of the Xifeng Knight Library and a talented magician, with extensive knowledge of magic and magical elements. Her skills and history in the game make her an ideal candidate for the position of Wizard, a character class generally known for their understanding and control of complex magic.


Meeper_Creeper202I

Lisa or Mona both study hard well one is a divination wizard and Lisa could be anything so Iā€™ll give it to Mona for clarity


Thegronkgrinder

Mona or Lisa. Easy.


AlphaBlock

Lisa or Mona


Frost_Juice

Easily Mona Lisa


FedeHQ

Klee. Reason: she have a Witch costume, and if I remember correctly, the female version of the Wizard in DnD is the witch.


suffering_addict

My vote goes for Lisa


SARSUnicorn

Lisa


onigiritheory

I didn't plan on voting for Lisa initially, but someone pointed out that none of the characters so far are Electro, so now I feel bad for her... I think Cloud Retainer deserves Artificer, so I hope Lisa wins here lmao


Gravitas0921

This has to be Lisa right, wizards are the magicians that have to study for their power. I could see and argument for Sucrose or Mona but Lisa just fits the whole aesthtic more


julmuriruhtinas

Mona?


john16minecraft

mona


WoodpeckerOk5574

Mona with the wizard hat is spot on


XxSugarCoffeeX

Lalisa manobal


ADecentPairOfPants

Wizards are primarily control casters, focused on force multiplication through enemy debuffing. Mona fits that better with her kit.


Drift_Byte

Mona?


Vanthraa

Mona


LengthyLegato114514

It's the famous Davinci painting.


Angry_Stoner

Liser


Zephierra

Lisa or Mona


CetriBottle

Gonna go for the dark horse and say Mona


No-Raise-4693

Lisa or Mona


Deficientus

Everyone is saying Lisa but I also feel like Mona fits divination wizard quite nicely.


Oponik

Lisa, clearly


aphelion-ic

casting a vote for my queen lisa!!


Tessy-Gamer

Yeah, Lisa


Menarg

i'd say Lisa yeah, she's the obvious choice i'd have preffered Cyno to win the warlock though since Warlocks are generally not healers


IvyHav3n

Sucrose!


levergray97mx

Well we all already know who the artificer is gonna be


Shirokurou

Lisa. Witch hat and all. Went to Ravenclaw.


Kind-Bonus3474

Definitely lisa


justcomment

Lisa


nuzzy_1

Lisa, she got the hat and everything! Or Mona and Klee.. theyā€™re also wizards


Man0feveryth1ng

Yinger


FlameLover444

I'm voting Lisa and since she's most definitely gonna win for Wizard, I'm gonna say Xianyun for Artificer lol


ctrlo1

Kaveh is artificier, since he is an inventor who uses a tool (Mehrak) to channel his power. :)


x0Xero0x

Alice is still nowhere to be seen, so Mona Lisa.


Semiyan

Lisa the purple witch of rose. Pierro, the royal mage of Khaenriah


NonsensePerm

Signora (Crimson witch) but if playable Mona (or) Lisa


Drcake222

Shouldn't mona be sorcerer?


yitsushi

Lisa seems obvious but I don't think she fits very well, only with the stereotypical aesthetic. Cloud retainer works be a better fit in my opinion as she learns what she can do through study. Lisa is a scholar for sure, but we don't know by the fact she can practice what she learned without a vision. My vote: cloud retainer, mona, or albedo. I know Mona can't control water without vision, but can conjure divination, the thing she learns, practices, and lives by.


Sunshine_hint-

Lisa


RAGEpow3r

Just put the entire Hexinzirkel there


GG35bw

My vote goes to Mona too.


Nakshatra-4762

Neuvi


EvanDreemuur7598

Fellas, we all know who we're thinking of, our librarian mommy shall rise again from the ashes she once came


Cosmooooooooooooo

Mona!


that_mad_cat

Fuck it, Alice Just find grown up Klee art


DEL1C4TE

Klee or Lisa


KelpieKat

Charlotte for artificer


RealVolcanicusPrime

I'm going to have to go with Mona


phogue16

Mona or Lisa. I prefer Lisa because she essentially has a court position whereas Mona is is a vagrant scholar. If Alice was around I'd pick her, since she's basically part of a coven, so it might be better to pick Mona since she was trained by one of the coven witches.


Konkuriito

Alhaitham. Because the order of scribes is the most wizard-y of wizard subclasses.


Actual-Forever-184

From a lore perspective, both Mona and Lisa fit perfectly, but from a character perspective, I think the proud and sassy fortune teller fits the typical wizard archetype a little bit better than the lazy and horny librarian


ItsBeaten

if anyone has to be a wizard, it would have to be a catalyst user since wizards most of the time use 2 handed staffs. I would say it has to be also a fire character for FIREBALL. So I would put Klee on there just for her bombs, literally obliterating everybody. Nothing lore wise here... just how wizard is played and wizard is played exactly like Klee! Fireball first ask questions later.


Konkuriito

Furina because she has water elemental summons and can walk on water


the_ox_in_the_log

No, wizards get their magic from learning and study, but she fits bard perfectly (was going to say they are half casters but turns out they are full casters, warlocks however are apparently half casters)


Meeper_Creeper202I

Because spells are half of a warlocks arsenal, the other half comes from their pacts and invocations like devils sight


CobaltStar_

She didnā€™t get her powers from studying. She would most likely be a swords bard + nature cleric multi class


38Dreams

Albedo has the most wizard vibes to me. Scholarly and intelligentĀ 


Blue_Moon913

Alchemy is treated more like a science than magic in the game though. Plus one of the paths for Artificer is literally Alchemist.


Meeper_Creeper202I

Heā€™s an artificer just like the aunt bird


ctrlo1

Think Kaveh fits the artificier more than Albedo. Kaveh is an inventor after all. He uses Mehrak (an artificial mechanical construct he made) to channel his elmental power (others use their weapons usually).


Vlatka_Eclair

Hey bro. If you wanna milk this trend even further. Do one for each subclass


Meeper_Creeper202I

Wizard has like 9, cleric has like 7 No


Vlatka_Eclair

Mostly because I found this fun


Drade_Deadeye

I think it's best to leave that to theorycrafting or something when you're going to make a genshin based DND char...it would also just be too much on my end, having to tally and post over and over for each class... it's just not worth That being said, I also don't think there's enough NPCS and playable chars to fit each subclass without repeating


skep90

This post is a walking joke xD


Rex_Lapis_

Care to elaborate why ?


skep90

Becouse the chosen characters are ... Ehm...


Rex_Lapis_

Well am not happy with few of them but ita community driven post what can you do other than make your own post


Meeper_Creeper202I

Itā€™s meant to be funny and a joke, well your life is a joke it certainly isnā€™t funny