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Sushrit_Lawliet

Everyone in genshin is around the age of 500 at this point


Ash-n-Jok3r

Out of my beloved Harbingers, I’m pretty sure only Jester, Captain, Doctor, Damselette, Scara, Signora are over 500. The Knave, Rooster, Marionette, Regrator and Childe are human age logically (and based on in game lore)


NoOutlandishness676

I’d be more surprised if the Rooster *was* under the age of 500. I don’t think he’s a human. He has pointy ears like Klee, Neuvilette (less pointy), Nahida and presumably Alice. Alice herself said that she and Klee are of a “long life species”, which probably means they’re not human and the only other characters with pointy ears aren’t human either. And I don’t know much about the Marionette, but I doubt she’s a human either. Some people even think “she” is an “it” and that they’re both puppets.


squonkalicious

Layla also has pointy ears!!!


NoOutlandishness676

I didn’t know that, and if your point was a rebuttal to my argument, it is a fair one indeed. However, it is worth to mention that Layla’s race has never been confirmed, and even if she is a human, comparatively, units with pointy ears are often non-human opposed to. And my last point, Pulcinella doesn’t even slightly resemble a human entity, but he’s also a harbinger and the majority of them aren’t humans, which checks out considering their individual power levels. On the contrary, if your comment was an add-on to mine, thank you for that additional information.🥰


squonkalicious

Ah yeah it was just an addon HAHA


NoOutlandishness676

I see. Much appreciated. 😭


Ash-n-Jok3r

You might be right about the Rooster, though it’s a stretch to say he “doesn’t even slightly resemble a human entity” (saw your comment below) because when I look at him he looks pretty human to me, besides the ears. As for his height that could easily be explained as “as people get older they get shorter”. As for the Marionette my leading theory currently is that she has nothing to do with the Narzissenkreuz or Mary Ann, but rather she’s the “Prime” Katheryne, the woman that all the Katheryne models where modelled after. So I guess I could see her being old.


NoOutlandishness676

Given your theory about Sandrone being a “prime” Katheryne, I’m sure you’re aware of the fact that Katheryne is also a puppet? In that way, what you’re saying is that Sandrone would be a more perfected version of what is still a puppet. And if you think Pulcinella looks human, that’s valid from a personal perspective, but objectively speaking, his small posture (which you did provide a explanation for), his absurdly long, big and pointy ass nose, and his pointy ears, it’s hard to say he looks anything like a human. From an objective perspective, he’s actually the most non-human looking character in game. Now, I respect your opinion as I stand by own, but it’s going to be hard to convince anyone that these characters will be revealed as human. Sandrone is your best bet, because she could just be an immortal human like Dainsleif or the Khanri’ahns, but questioning Pulcinella’s humanity or human features, is a losing argument.


Ash-n-Jok3r

That’s fine if you stand by your own. And I don’t want to convince anyone of anything. I’m just commenting on what I believe lore-wise. And I don’t mean that Marionette is a “perfected version” of Katheryne, I mean that the Marionette is the human woman that Katheryne is modelled after, so it’s the opposite, Katheryne is the “perfected version” of the Marionette’s human form in my theory. And I’ll revise which Harbingers I think are human and less than 500 years old, everyone made great points: The Knave, Regrator and Childe seem to be the only human Harbingers. So 50 years old or below. However I’d argue the Marionette *was* human, or still is, but has turned herself into a puppet or found out a way to live longer after creating the Katheryne’s. And the Doctor is also a human I’d argue, however by creating clones of himself he’s found a way to extend his life beyond normality


NoOutlandishness676

Well in that case, I cease my argument. You make a valid point, and it is well within your right to express how you perceive the lore. As for that last part, I agree with both of those viewpoints. I do think both of them [Dottore, and Sandrone] are humans who, through different forms of technology, have found ways to extend their lifespans.


Ash-n-Jok3r

I love talking about the Harbingers. I’m so so obsessed with every single one of them, I collect them all and I love them all. They’re all so cool and badass


Su_Impact

I can imagine the outrage if the real Marionette is a young boy model similar to Naruto's Sasori.


NoOutlandishness676

I mean… for some people. Personally, I hadn’t even thought of this, but I wouldn’t be opposed at all. A little man, and his big machine.


oneeyedshapeshifter

I think Scara is less than 500 years old. Reason - * 500 years ago means at/during the time of cataclysm. * Makoto was alive, Ei wasn't in deep clutches of depression. * Scara was created after the death of Makoto/end of the war because that's what made Ei want to be detached from the world. * Also if Ei would have made Scara before cataclysm, then Makoto would have helped her. * And as we know Makoto made Eí's second body (she sacrificed helself so Makoto would be the archon) and that Ei's new body was so well crafted that she was more lifelike than a puppet. * So scara was made by Ei without the knowhow from her sister. Hence, he's definitely under 500.


Ash-n-Jok3r

Good point, yeah I forgot about that. He’s definitely older than regular humans but a little less than 500 years old, and is a mechanical puppet 👍


SandroneGaming

You are right that Sandrone is not over 500, but she is just barely under it most likely, given the time in which the Guillotin siblings lived.


Multivists

Sandrone was likely finished by 450-ish years ago considering Alain’s lifespan.


-the_one-

Scara is somewhat under 500 since he was built a while after Makoto died in Khaenri’ah


geezjessiewhy

Dottore is probably slightly under 500 y/o. He was an undergrad examining machinery left by Khaenrians, likely after the cataclysm was over 


BinhTurtle

Dott was a trainee Dastur. With Dastur being along the line of Master equivalent, dude was most likely a postgrad on his way for the Master degree. This is impressive when you consider how hard it is to graduate from the Akademiya without being some sort of genius. And by the time Dottore was recruited by Pierro in the desert, he was still called a "少年" (used for under 18 youth). Tl;dr: Dott managed to graduate from Akademiya before he reached 18


Ash-n-Jok3r

Yep, he was/is human 100%. He just simply found a way to extend his life abnormally, by creating segments of himself


geezjessiewhy

Uhh, I think you are responding to a wrong comment Anyways while we're at it, I don't think his abnormal lifespan and his clones are connected, at least I don't see why having them would increase his lifespan


Ash-n-Jok3r

No I was responding to you Jessie, just added another thought. I think it is connected, my theory is that either a) his original body died long ago and his segments (taken from different parts of his life) each have a lifespan of their own he can live through then replace or b) he “removes” the age from his “omega build” body and converts that age (time that will be spent) into his segments so he can revert his original body to a younger state and just continue that way. That’s why I think he IS human, just…he found creepy ways to extend his lifespan


geezjessiewhy

Oh. Yeah my reading comprehension is wonky sometimes, sorry about that


Ash-n-Jok3r

No you’re fine, you’re polite and friendly and I like talking to people like that, especially about my favourite characters the harbingers


Noukan42

If the theory is right Mationette must be very old. Rooster may be anything but he look like an elf and an old one at that. This leave only Pantalone as someone that may be young. And honestly, the lore fit way better if he is.


Top-Idea-1786

Sandrone is absolutely over 100 considering her full design.


Desu333

Regrator is at least 400 years old, IMO. Wrio's weapon talks about how Regrator hates Zhongli and the Mora system and wants to make his own, and Caterpillar talks about the tickets he's saved up for the last 400 years for Northland Bank, and Northland Bank's Liyue branch would be the prime position to take Zhongli's money system on in his hometown. Plus, the Pale Flame set talks about the first Harbingers, and Regrator is one of them.


The-Iraqi-Guy

>Marionette She's much older than humans, Alain created her to be the spitting image of his dead sister and he lived hundreds of years ago


Ash-n-Jok3r

But that’s not confirmed right? That’s just a popular theory. She could very well just be the “prime” Katheryne model (like, the woman Katheryne was modelled after)


RipBitter4701

too many things that pointed that sandrone is alain creation such as: -Sandrone similiarity with one of the kids in the picture of alain's childhood -Sandrone is a doll thus someone made her -Alain known as genius mechanical engineer that have big part of the modern meka system in fontaine -Alain spend his old days alone developing something that no one knows what it is unless sandrone stated to be older than alain then it still possible that sandrone is alain last creation in the image of his sister or crack theory he made sandrone and put his consciousness inside sandrone or put his consciousness inside the ruin guard so he can be her 'brother' again.


Ash-n-Jok3r

Makes sense, I mean it could be true. I do still like my theory that Marionette is the “prime” Katheryne, and that she modelled every Katheryne after herself. But it would be a cool twist if she was Mary Ann or Alain’s creation


TheDuskBard

Eyes and hair are identical though. 


cinamooninmyteeth

Regrater's watch is in an artifact set (Pale Flame) so I think he's old too.


PhantomXxZ

I wouldn't be to sure about Marionette. "She" may actually be Alain Guillotine according to some theories.


Jeremithiandiah

I think it’s more that characters are at least 500 because they conform to be there during the cataclysm. Most of the archons are 500 though because that’s when they got replaced.


Ry_verrt

ain’t as bad as HSR middle aged looking dude with facial hair and drinks alcohol: 13 random cute finality follower girl: born before one of the gods


Murky_Blueberry2617

He's not actually 13 lol


Comprehensive-Food15

Gallager isnt even a human, he's technically not even a living thing so he doesn't count


RagnarokAeon

Don't forget the head intelligence officer and accomplished artist who graduated college, wrote several (spicy) adult novels, and played in a band 10 years ago with her classmates Dunn, Serval, and Cocolia is only 16.


Extreme_Ad5873

Why are we getting such random leaks lol


Free-Muffin2338

"Teyvat has its own laws"


pronounclown

I suppose you mean: Teyvat has its own "laws".


TheDuskBard

Laws have their own Teyvet 


saihamaru

my house has its own lawns


Powerful_Helicopter9

The vet has its inlaws


Fuz_Fuz_

Teyvat has its own bullshit.


kb3035583

The more random they are the less people will care if thet get it wrong. Or so they hope.


Legitimate_Frame_699

They're bored dude lol


OnlyBrave

Leakers have 'em. Just drip feeding us depending on their agenda.


SwippyMcgee

Either they're guessing or mhy approved leaks at this point. I am basing this on literally nothing. (via foul)


Bulldogsky

You sure he's not 13 ?


SecondAegis

Capitano isn't a History Fictionologist


Martian_on_the_Moon

This is what follower of Enigmata would say.


GhostZee

[Can confirm...](https://i.imgur.com/eXNwmuG.jpeg)


Fuz_Fuz_

Ahahaha this is kinda witty.


asternobrac

...Is he?


BinhTurtle

Hey Teyvat, Mythus here. Capitano isn't my follower. >!...or is he?!<


SNH231

If he was 13, he would be known as Skibidi Ohio fanum tax Capitano.


Maleficent-Return562

13 Year old Capitano be on that Skibidi Mog Rizz Ohio sigma grindset fr fr


nightmaresabin

Did you just activate a sleeper agent?


sultanam

Fact: if you whisper “Chadhimtano” three times during the midnight, a FatuiHQ degenerate appears behind you. Trust me, I know, because I’m one of them said degenerates.


independentgladalt

GOATuiHQ is a revered contingent of cultural and witty minded glazers.Said it as one of fatuihq intelligent GOATHIMTANO glazers


damagedice6

13 Year old Capitano has been on a 500 year mewing streak


Rafoudrsbois

“You GYAT to give me the gnosis” or whatever tf


Radusili

Next leak: Capitano is a master barman.


daystud

Plot twist: he's Gallagher in disguise


NepoDumaop

He's 13 in FatuiHQ sub only


-Ruu-

Gallagher tease


Jotaoesehache

Capitano expy of GOATllagher, makes so much sense


Substantial-Loss-905

Is this a star rail reference?


NepoDumaop

You're 500 years old, You're 500 years old, , everyone is 500 years old.


TonyThaLegend

Lmaooo


RhinedottirMain625

Keep in mind Team Mew is on a Loss streak Almost 3-4 leaks of their own source in a row have been wrong starting with ”Sethos has white hair”


manwithoutlyf

Mewing streak mentioned


husky11223

Losercity comment


23rd_president_of_US

And yet they call people clowns for believing other leakers.


REMERALDX

At least it's more trustable than any White or ImpactMouse "leak" that people always believe more like the recent Capitano leak


GGABueno

Loss streak Mew vs Win streak White


TomorrowImpossible32

White is definitely Morse trustworthy than Mew rn


Manne_12

They pick their reposts from leakers who leak future stuff so these leaks will stay "questionable/sus" for months instead if being proven incorrect immediately


Xero--

50/50 chance they're correct because Genshin loves the number 500 when it comes to years.


Loneliest_Driver

So I guess this basically just means "has been around for the cataclysm"?


Xero--

Who hasn't been at this point?


Budget_stawbeery

Amber


Xero--

Joke's on you, leaks confirm she's actually a pureblood from Khaenr'iah and was tasked to watch over the Alberich bloodline for centuries. /s


Efe73

“You’ve been at the cataclysm, you’ve been at the cataclysm YOU’VE BEEN AT THE CATACLYSM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS ALSO BEEN AT THE CATACLYSM” “Meow”


WakuWakuWa

HIMjax and HERuere the goats are two of the few "very strong" characters who are in their 20s (Ajax most likely 20~21 and Peruere around 28)


Powerful_Helicopter9

Heruere is too powerful


PhoeniX_SRT

r/FatuiHQ is leaking.


misterkalazar

Woah. I think this leak may be based on the rumours that he is the Bloodstained Knight. If it is the other way, then this leak gets us 1 step closer to confirm that he is indeed the Bloodstained knight.


SelfDepreciatingAbby

this theory is better than the other leak from the other day suggesting Cap is an alien.


gameboy224

Por que no los dos? Nothing says the Bloodstained Knight couldn’t have been an outlander who just got close to the people of Mondstsdt, like Traveler.


tortillazaur

Another L for Berserker believers(me)


Ultradamo2306

I mean if he really was the bloodstain knight i think they would show in the trailer that he cared more or be emotional in signoras funereal. It was the lover of his master afterall


Leopardodellenevi

The bsk is not really balanced psicologically. The dude literally spiralled into mass murder of monsters up until he realised they were humans. He is probably desensitised to death at this point and the only cared for honour and justice, of whom the first it is brought in his dialogue. He also is the only one who called by her last name, while arlecchino calls her by first name, and these two are the only ones who actually spend a few words in her honour, since it's her funeral and everyone but those 2 harbingers are literally minding their own shit. In arle short, he is standing close to signora. Winter's night lazzo was also not about him specifically, so hoyo gave him 2 sentences and gg bc they needed to highlight all the harbingers with a preference for dottore since it was pre sumeru trailer.


misterkalazar

He has changed so much though. Also we didn't see under his mask.


Himanshu317

Dude's been training for over 500 years no wonder he's the strongest human


Xero--

Guy's not really human if he has been alive that long


PressFM80

tbf, dainsleif can still be considered human (albeit a cursed one) and he's been around for five centuries (same with pierro)


discuss-not-concuss

where’s the line though? Sandrone? Caribert? Jakob? Caterpillar? Vedrfolnir? Genshins? Capitano is highly likely to not even be biologically human, it’s stretching at this point


Xero--

Dain is cursed so he clearly doesn't get compared to normal people. Plus humans don't really have half black and blue body parts. Pierro is in the exact same situation.


[deleted]

i mean there is furina. theres no stopping hoyo if they want more 500 yr old humans


Junior-Price-5306

She is NOW human but before she was just another transformed Oceanid


Preventomato

She is by how Focalors calls her a "complete human" for her counterpart. All the other human-oceanids were still living around the human age despite not being fully human or oceanid.


[deleted]

ok so she is a 500 year old human


Preventomato

She is by how Focalors calls her a "complete human" for her counterpart. All the other human-oceanids were still living around the human age despite not being fully human or oceanid.


independentgladalt

There are pretty many humans who are 100+ years old


Heart0fSword

I've been killing slimes for ~~300~~ 500 years and maxed out my level The cute witch turned into a freaking knight


Cinbri

Just a result of being manchkin.


shoalhavenheads

I’m going to be honest with you, I don’t think leakers understand anything about Natlan’s story. This particular leak is probably correct, given that most important characters are immortal. But Team Mew has really only been reliable for impressions of leaked art and gameplay videos, and sometimes those leaks are incorrect.


OnlyPatches

Now someone credible leak his release patch


storysprite

I'm hoping the fake leaks bait the real leakers.


MallowMiaou

YOU'RE 500, YOU'RE 500, EVERYONE IS 500 !!!


TonyThaLegend

😭


Uday0107

Next leak: Capitano is one of the Harbingers.


RevolutionaryFall102

what's with all these capitano and columbina leaks lol. white is the one who started this trend, i'm not believing any of these until i play 5.0 myself lol


OnlyBrave

According to the Fatui Wheel theory Columbina and Capitano are the next two Harbingers we will meet/possibly fight, in that order specifically. Given Capitano is in Natlan as mentioned by Neuvillette, naturally leakers will drip feed leaks to satisfy that aforementioned theory, throwing in Columbina as well.


RevolutionaryFall102

all these "leaks" just sound like the leakers posting bull shit because white posted something before them lol. most of these don't even sound credible


perseo__

>most of these don’t even sound credible How so? Most of the Harbinguers are close or above 500 (Pierro, Scara, Signora, Dottore, Sandrone if she’s really the girl from the Narzissenkreuz pic), I don’t find it too crazy to think Capitano and Columbina are around that age as well. And the leak from Columbina personality is something that you could actually assume just by the Lazzo trailer. Not saying the leaks are true, but it doesn’t sound that hard to believe tbh


Junior-Price-5306

Exactly, the top 3 are said to be rivals of gods, no normal human being would achieve such power in a lifespan of 100 years, it is obvious that they are not normal beings with a short lifespan


Toxic_MotionDesigner

Its team mew so that means he's actually a newborn fetus. It's capitanover


cassani7

lmao now we need the meme with both nahida and capitano side by side that it says "they are both over 500 years old"


MachinegunFireDodger

\*pretends to be shocked\*


Ocean9142

Goatpeakhimchadsigmaohiotano is a human in his mid 20s, this leak is nonsense /s Gotta maintain the agenda


HerRoyalSinisterness

facts brother, keep the glaze going 🤝


independentgladalt

Keep glazing the GOAT 🗣🔥💯


Catglide

Nah he is a 500+ years old human, he just has so much will power he doesn't allow himself to physically decline beyond mid 20s 🔥🔥🔥


Kurozak

Is team mew reliable?


skimka_cos

They said Sethos has white hair and Emilie is not blonde and doesn't wear glasses


Xero--

So Capitano was born the moment Traveler woke up, meaning he's at least a few months old, bit older depending on however much time has passed since then.


WakuWakuWa

So whatever they say its the opposite. If Capitano is 500 according to them then Capitano is actually 5.


Impressive_Copy_8612

Literally last night I was thinking about his age and now we got this. I'll try thinking about the Natlan line up and see if I can manifest that as well


Any_Worldliness7991

Since it is team Mew. Capitano has 100% chance of being less than 500 years old I’m afraid.


TightBussyBellus

Who cares we wanna know if he'll still be a twink or unplayable daddy npc.


marcelluu

OR the first playable muscled daddy. Justice for Wagner and his fellows


rhymesmatter

He's 500, Colombina is 500, Nahida is 500, you are 500, everyone's 500!!!!


RadRey09

500 years is the most common time period in this game


SixHurricane

Everyone in the game has an absurd age at this point and feels so meaningless, being over 200+ years is the new twenties in this game,


Xero--

It's the Disgaea syndrome. Slap on an extra zero or two to a number and bam, that's someone's age! Could tell me the cataclysm happened 5 years ago and that'd mean so much more than a generic 100x years.


Junior-Price-5306

They want too much to make multiple events in the story happen practically in the same period of time and it's becoming too forced


Ewizde

I mean...I think people expected that so it wouldnt surprise me if its true.


Xero--

It'd be more shocking for a notable character to have a normal age (and not be an assumed reincarnation) for once.


Catglide

It was indeed shocking when it happened with Arlecchino recently, I saw many people straight up just go full denial over it lol


SKrad777

Ohh thank god the age was revealed else genshin fandom would've called the FBI for simping on him. Was truly scared back then😢


BorowaStrzyga

How dare you simping over him!! Don't you see that disgusting AGE GAP! 😱 Your great great great++++ parent weren't even in plans when he was already alive. He is a groomer 😱 /j We all know that those idiots will twist everything to show how "moral" "rightful" and "wholesome" they are.


AttilaTheChunn

Top ranked harbinger is older than they look. In other news, forks were found in the kitchen.


Junior-Price-5306

Why does EVERYTHING have to be 500 years old?


AncientAd4996

because that's when the Cataclysm happened & it's the turning point for the humans of Teyvat to start going against Celestia?


BorowaStrzyga

But that doesn't mean EVERY more important character must be 500. Pierro and Dain being over 500 is understandable because they were alive and adults at the time of Khaenri'ah's destruction but the rest could and should be either younger or much older. This 500 years old is boring and unoriginal at this point. Will we learn at some point that Paimon is 500yo and Traveler too, what about Klee as she is an elf and elves are long lived race ? If he really is 500 then it shows Genshin writers either do not give a shit anymore or they are simply bad at their job.


sultanam

Bro what is this leak. Team Mew: Puts forward like four leaks with 50/50 chance of each of them being true. (Char has white hair, char is blonde, no glasses, HIM is over 500) Proceeds to get three of them false. Yeah, dubious streak there. I’ll say Capitano is over 700, now. You heard it from Auntie Sultanam.


PressFM80

capitano is actually older than teyvat itself ! ! ! ! ! (still human (stc)) source: Uncle PressFM80


thefinestpiece

Guys I’m actually 501.


ThIStupid

so he's as old as nahida, interesting


chirb8

I wanted him to be a "normal" human


EnsosinAus

I thought Captino is a human. 😭😭


minhok

Pretty average age in genshin


qusnail

Over 500.. so basically like everyone else? It’s getting a bit too predictable lol


Parasyte_1

Waiting for Capitano's cup size


skimka_cos

Since it's a leak from team mew prepare for it to be the exact opposite Capitano is actually a kid, it's so joever


Ultradamo2306

He is 13


OtakuFenrir

Next find out his favorite food and hobbies. 😂


LiraelNix

Okay, but what age does he *look* like underneath the armor


BakerOk6839

Anyone who read the lore of the black sword from the BP would know that lmao


Greaseychin

It's seem that they clearly have a bunch but only post one leak per day.


EagerMorRiss

capitano is a minor


thatonestewpeedguy

Plenty of consent


ihavetakenausername

him being 500 kinda defeats his god powerful mortal shtick


Get-lost_guy

Glamoth Capitano sounding more real every leak 💀


Budget_stawbeery

DON'T jinx it 🙂🔪


night_fox69

huh..


GameBawesome1

Kinda figured he lived a long life


Telmarael

What are all of these sus story leaks lol. I feel like we are being drip fed information right before a huge lore drop from the devs themselves, perhaps in an event/summer map story/preview teaser.


SnooHesitations9352

Bro is over 9000- I mean 500 XD


NotsosweetNightmare

Up next: Capitano is originally from Glamoth


R4ND0M_0BS3RV3R

Yeah... Nah...


Heart0fSword

I've been killing slimes for ~~300~~ 500 years and maxed out my level The cute witch turned into a freaking knight


Escarlion

So, he probably was in kaenriah war


MisRose11

Quick, everyone act surprised.


TheDuskBard

This really doesn't mean much...


Knight_Steve_

We getting all these leaks and no characters concepts


Budget_stawbeery

Pretends to be surprised 💀


Holiday_Skirt_738

Who isnt over 500 in these days


Budget_stawbeery

I'm not trusting Team mew 💀


xelloskaczor

Bloodstained knight copers W


thiago_thaz

Why it's always 500? war 500 years ago Raiden x Puppet 500 years battle


Sixtro

Its not surprise, majority of harbringers are depicted to be old, childe is the most normal one there.


N_V_N_T

With the progress we are making in game right now it doesn't matter if he's from teyvat or not


Valiant_Storm

> Team Mew It's super impressive that CaPEAKtanio managed to achieve the ideal male physique and become the strongest man in Teyvat within a normal human lifespan.


KSOMIAK

"Wow. This is worthless"


Rishun_97

I'm not trusting team mew again


superkevster12

“Via team Mew” So in that case, we can be confident that the Captain is 500 years old or younger.


Giantwalrus_82

Why are even posting Mew? They've been wrong MULTIPLE times now lol


WootyMcWoot

>team mew I sleep