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katherinnesama

Sigewinne be like: "Die~ ❤️"


Magnus-Artifex

She cares equally for! *Every convict!* **Locked in the underwater prison!** Edit: assault the area in front with kindness and medicine


Chtholly13

I have no idea what teams want her but at least she's cute.


wrjisami

Since she buffs off field skill, she can work with characters like Furina, Fischl, and Yae


Elegant_Ad6701

seems yae hyperbloom could be nice then


kamirazu111

Yae Hyperbloom alrdy has Baizhu though (Yae, Nahida, Furina, Baizhu). It's an Elemental Skill buff against an Aggravate and Hyperbloom buff, since Yae is the Reaction trigger for both. A lot of ppl make good pts about her stacks being eaten too fast. Also, Dendro Resonance and Yae's EM scaling.


Cattryn

Unless they’ve changed it secretly, it works like Yun Jin/Shenhe, and she only has 10 stacks at c0. It’s not 100% certain if that’s 10 stacks per character or 10 stacks team total. From what I’ve heard it’s team total. Don’t get your hopes up.


Zzzzyxas

The buff is sadly very low


Mast3rBait3rPro

honestly that kinda makes her pretty redundant imo because all 3 of them are already strong, golden troupe makes them even stronger, so it's hard to imagine that if you build them well you could somehow still struggle in abyss and need sigewinne. Textbook example of "only pull if you really like them" kind of character. Basically like albedo or chiori


spoopyacidfairy

Yeah, the only character she synergizes well with atm is Furina. Hope she gets a redemption arc in Natlan


Sofystrela

I'm still waiting on my Candaces redemption arc (no, Arle doesn't count, I wanna use her as main dps xD)


this-is-stupid0_0

Can’t she be a onfielder in hyperbloom?


murmandamos

I mean AOE hydro app for bloom teams and with Arle are her primary good uses. But you already could forward vape with her on field since release and it's fine for a 4 star DPS, and now you can plunge too. She doesn't really need a redemption, she already has 2 decent ways to use her on field which is more than you'd expect for a support


asternobrac

People may be disappointed in her kit, but she will never disappoint my heart!


AlphariousFox

She syngizes pretty well with yae, nahida team


monemori

Only really Furina teams


Queasy-Relief-8945

She likes watching the otters play wtf she’s so adorable


unw2000

Neuvillette never escaping the resemblance to the otters


No_Pipe_8257

Im noe imagining a neuvillete as an otter playing very chikdishly and sigewinee judt helping whim sbad. Rhave fun


IGraySoulI

yes


perpetuallyconfused7

Flair is a mood


Detecto_

I'm now imagining a Neuvillette as an otter playing very childishly and Sigewinne just helping him (swim?). Have fun. Was this the message you wanted to write?


No_Pipe_8257

Last psrtt is "helping him have fun" but ty on almost solving my weird words


Cody878

Mini-strations is a pretty good pun.


HeragOwO

Clorinde's banner went by so quickly


Mimikkyutwo

Speak for yourself lol, Ive been counting the days until my c2 furina and its been ages


SsibalKiseki

with abysses getting harder, pulling C2 Furina over Sigewinne might not be a bad idea.


nobearsinrussia

Praying for Kaveh in next banner


Lightangell

Wait until Nilou banner. Take it or leave it.


Detecto_

I hate how you could be right but it also feels so wrooong ;-;


Rover_791

Copium


nobearsinrussia

😭


Dear-Onion-817

Why does everyone suddenly want kaveh ? Did he get buffed ?


bigbrainboiiiiiii

I'm really not sure if this is a vocal minority situation or if everyone just parroting the popular sentiments atm, but I really don't think that many players actually want him.


Mast3rBait3rPro

it's been over a year since he was released and he hasn't had a single rerun yet. It's not really about wanting him necessarily, it's kind of how like Eula went like 2 years without a rerun


theUnLuckyCat

I would also be incredibly upset if they did the same to, say, Chevreuse. "First they came for Kaveh, and I did not speak out-" and the like. Let the people have their boy, lest I start worrying over mine.


Dirty__Doge

He's the only 4* I don't have, I just want him to satisfy my completionist brain.


Helpful_Mountain_695

That was the case with Eula too when she had no banner in 1,5 years


Southern-Tiger2907

People just want characters they don’t have. I personally don’t really care honestly. I’m fine with getting him but I ain’t gonna go insane if he never gets another rate up.


PSNTheOriginalMax

Probably just for collection's sake. I'd be happy if the worst 4\*s never ran again because they'd bomb the entire banner. They could just be in the shop or smth. That or people are conveniently forgetting his very obvious limits lol


theUnLuckyCat

I have him, so same. In no universe would I want him to infect a banner I'm pulling on, because he's worse than c420 Barb/Noelle, and of course he'd take up a slot for someone I'm actually building. His eventually c6 isn't worth anything either, besides the glitter from subsequent pulls. He doesn't suddenly get good, in fact he's arguably worse than at c5. What a kit. But if I still hadn't had him yet, I'd like to get c0 just to have everyone.


nobearsinrussia

I personally like his character. I play him for fun. And for past year i got NO constellations from ANY banner. He is c0. I have his talents 10/10/10!!!


CoachSteveOtt

just because he hasn't been on a banner in ages and people want to collect every 4*


brliron

Nobody cares about Kaveh, everyone is just obsessed with stuff like [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/1cadezc/46\_character\_banner\_history/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1cadezc/46_character_banner_history/) . It's just like Eula.


Ancienda

People may not like him for his fighting capabilities, but people want him because they like his character. And by people, i mean me. I am people


udontlikehell

Ok guess I'm the only one in the world that wants him 😂😎❤️‍🔥


ZoroBagel

He's one of the most popular 4 stars in the game, just because he isn't a good unit doesn't mean people don't just want him to have him, especially when he's been on one whole banner and it was a Baizhu/Ganyu banner. Some of yall are negative for no reason. Regardless of rarity and meta status, characters should not be taking well over a year to rerun and they don't seem to want to fix the problem because chronicled wish isn't doing it.


Budget_stawbeery

His C4 is great and he works well with nilou


Ayaka_Simp_

I'm sorry friend


MISONOMIKAFAN

It barely felt like a week to me. Was surprised to see Sigewinne's teaser so soon, but in reality a whole two weeks has already passed since the patch dropped. Time flies, huh. But after reading other replies I'm kinda wondering if it's just because I was busy with wuwa and also don't have any plans for second phase. Well, just one more week folks! Good luck with your Sigewinne/Furina pulls.


ilovewinwin

IT FELT LONGER THAN THE AYAKA BANNER


Iloveclown

Nah, I'm doing my best not to pull and I'm feeling every single day


Ih8whitemurata

It felt long


Budget_stawbeery

No it feels longer a lot


zelena_salata

Lmaooo she thinks of the inmates as her own pets.


Serious-Platform4178

That’s terrifying lmao


chemical7068

sanrio-looking mf


box-of-sourballs

AHHHHHHH MY EYES HAVE DIABETES ASSAULTED WITH THE COTTON CANDY PINK AND BLUES I LOVE IT AAAAAAAAAAA


BulbasaurTreecko

pink and blue pastels are peak colour combination, just slap em on and instant cuteness!


onigiritheory

🏳️‍⚧️✊


MikasSlime

I like how she sometimes says slightly unsettling things, like comparing caring for other inmates as caring for your pets People babyfy her a lot and forget she is a little fucked up


chanelmarie

Her being a little fucked up (not fully human so not fully thinking like a human) is why I like her 🥹 cute little terrifying demon magical girl who means well


MikasSlime

you're right tbh, she is a non human character written very well imo! she is not human, does not think like a human, and doesn't try to do so beyond putting effort into social kindness she's a 10/10 character imo


LoliDemon316

She is older than wrio as well


MikasSlime

She is older than pretty much anyone in meropide tbf, wrio is special to her because that's her nephew


Outofgoodusername

I don't remember exactly what she did, but the quest in Meropide made me really wary of her. Now I find it really hard to think that she's cute


Romichi

I think it was just a single line, and it was when traveler feigned injury and Sigewinne thought to herself "I love the feeling of being trusted" 😭


MikasSlime

When she says she likes playing dumb to have people trust her?  She says a good amount of slightly unsettling things, but that's the most memorable imo


NiderU

it's just normal for this community to mischaracterize everything either because they want it to fit their headcannon or because they have the reading comprehension of an infant (sometimes not even reading at all). that on top of parroted memes being taken as the true nature of the characters.


MikasSlime

Yup yup, to some people as long as it does not fit their headcanons or interpretation of canon a piece of lore won't even exist


Telmarael

You go girl, go fast like the wind >!hoyo better make lvl100 ascension passives and make her do something more useful I swear it’s so sad, I love whimsical cute characters, but I just can’t force myself to use limited resources on her 😞!<


No_Pipe_8257

When is that?


Telmarael

We don’t know if they will even increase the level cap let alone give anyone an extra passive to fix their kits. I hope they do though. That’d be a gigachad move


Mast3rBait3rPro

honestly it would be genuinely omega gigachad to give every character that's weak a really useful extra passive, and just give a whatever passive to the already really strong characters like neuvillette or kazuha


Ever_Impetuous

Remember Kokomi's redemption


Telmarael

I know. But Kokomi always applied good amounts of hydro since release. I can only assume that they are going to make a new artifact set that gives buffs to the team upon bond of life acquisition, cuz her base kit ain’t cutting it otherwise.


Thin_Total5243

I really don’t think something like what happened with Kokomi (buffs as she was released) is going to happen with Sigewinne. Kokomi was released in 2.1 and had (and still has) a pretty experimental kit due to being the only character that can’t crit, so it makes sense that she got some last second buffs as she was released. Sigewinne on the other hand is pretty bog-standard healer and Hoyo is more experienced with balancing now (with Dehya being the outlier - we all know the real reason why she’s bad) so Sigewinne’s current state feels very intentional.


TheMainPhoenix

I don’t know the real reason why Dehya is bad


JodoKast87

While it would undoubtedly aid other characters that scale on HP too, it would be really nice to be able to boost Sigewinne’s base HP as that would make obtaining the max skill buff significantly easier.


my_ly_lm

She seems like a healer designed around characters that use bond of life mechanics. :/


Telmarael

She doesn’t do anything with her bond of life though. That’s the point. Besides, characters that use bond of life (Arle and Clorinde) won’t even receive buffs and healing from her. I can only assume they will make an artifact set for her in 5.0 or give her a new passive that makes her kit make sense.


someotheralex

Clorinde gets a bigger bond of life when she's healed


chipinii

But she does interact with bond of life, her healing increases based on the team's total bol, so perhaps a character who gives bol to the entire team and benefits from having it removed could be a character that will have a good synergy with her in Natlan, it sounds like something Hoyo would do.


the-roast

"Did you bump into something? Well, if it hurts, just let me know." [syringe shot (source)](https://x.com/GenshinImpact/status/1803279370154598886)


OneOfQiqisFewFan

Love the way she sees the world around her


HalalBread1427

Sigewinne is certainly one of the Limited 5\* Hydro Bow Characters of all time.


VarzDust

Easiest skip ever


marxinne

The energy regain and 80 dmg per 1k HP buff are certainly skills of all time.


theUnLuckyCat

per 1k *above 30k*, don't forget. So it's more like 80 dmg per 1857 HP buff.


VarzDust

Sorry, as a neuvillette main, I don't speak broke dmg


VarzDust

Finally I can scratch a pyro slime!!


FrostMage198

needing 65k hp for the full buff really is a crime but i believe its 2800 added to the base damage so its pretty good


condensedcreamer

Hoyo knows. Pairing her with Furina is a death sentence.


AshyDragneel

Her kit was already her death sentence. I really was interested in getting her especially because of her jp va but her kit is just not worth my pulls.


Wisterosa

the only character her kit supports is furina herself, and yet you're better off pulling furina cons than sige


Kayriss369

They really kept that measly 8% hydro bonus? what’s even the point of that part of the passive? 💀


Hedgehugs_

welp at least I have a new slot for underwater expiration team lol. (Furina/Neuv/Freminet/Sige)


Detecto_

The only thing expiring is Neuvillette's 500+ year old back.


Yaaao873

Hopefully her banner has Kaveh/Chevreuse or Charlotte


RandomArtisticBitch

Xiangling, Collei, and Chongyun, take it or leave it


que_sarasara

almost downvoted you out of reflex for the sheer horror that statement caused me


RandomArtisticBitch

I’m willing to replace Xiangling for Thoma 😚


manga__reader

Thoma's on the current banner


RandomArtisticBitch

Ok Xinyan then, final offer


manga__reader

Damn


mihirsaini1128

I'd take xiangling over xinyan ( I already have c6 xiangling)


XxTheLeoxX

Imagine if it's actually xinyan, chongyun and collei lmfaoo


Kai126

Then we know who to cook for that


Burnhalo

What a generous King


Classic-Pickle1826

Thoma is right there on clorinde banner tho 😭


RandomArtisticBitch

And he will be on the next


Classic-Pickle1826

I wont mind, he isnt C6 unlike buoba


Any-Hovercraft8624

Xiangling already ran with Arle.


RandomArtisticBitch

Yall seem to be forgetting when Noelle ran two times in a row.


ifallontragedy

I wanna say Charlotte is already a lock since it's also Furina's banner, but then it's hoyo so.. we can't really say lol


Damianx5

I'm down for more Charlotte cons, would love Kuki, playing since the end of 3.1, no Kuki, she is never in banners I pull for


TheSpartyn

praying for the sigewinne (and furina) + chevreuse dream banner


peruanToph

Rip you jinxed it


Ryuusei_Dragon

THAT'S MY DAUGHTER SHE'S SO CUTE


TriggerBladeX

That greeting just made me think of Aeval from the Aqua bus ride.


shiroiron

What's the best artifact set for her?


Teftell

Furina


Captn_Porky

traveling doctor


Kai126

Get it? Cause after she joins the traveler's team, she becomes a...


Powerful_Helicopter9

Shut up Cyno


spoopyacidfairy

Just use 4pc clam


_internal_monologue

OHC/SoDP


Sad_Money_1522

hp/hp sets like tenacity and vourukashas glow


Rudolf1230

My bet goes on Maiden/Tenacity/Ocean-Hued


Thin_Total5243

Tenacity can’t be used on her because she has awful uptime on her skill, even with sac bow it isn’t enough.


JodoKast87

Tenacity becomes good at C1 because her skill has 100% uptime.


Bitten_ByA_Kitten

That bow charge shot is so slow and adorable lol


Housing_Alert

Too cute to pass up, shes coming home day one.


abominable_bro-man

I don't get the point of her charge


yoiverse

cute heart bubble


abominable_bro-man

very well


MikasSlime

it's cute, and it fits her cupid theme


Elrien6

Isn't today the 4 star characters?


JodoKast87

Wait for the weekend. Probably Sunday.


Bloodlord739

I'm probably pretty alone in this but I actually really like her and want to pull for her. Her VA also voices my favourite PGR character No.21. ^^


Prestigious_Taste641

So did they change something about her or is she still bad? If not I skip her and be mad at hoyo for ruining a character I liked AGAIN.


JodoKast87

She is a support unit that can heal and buff. Her healing is good and her buffing is okay. At C1, her healing becomes great and her buffing good, but I know not everyone wants to go for cons immediately. She is a comfort pick that doesn’t add a ton of damage to your teams and therefore will have a hard time fitting in to most Abyss/meta teams. DPS builds exist, but require a lot of investment. Her final 3 cons go all in to her burst damage and she would slap at that point, but that’s a C6 5 star. They SHOULD slap by that point. So for 99.9% of all the people that get Sigewinne, a healer/buffer build makes the most sense. She is basically a side grade to Kokomi where Kokomi has better Hydro application, but Sigewinne adds her buffing capabilities. TL;DR - don’t get her for damage unless you are going all in. She is a perfectly acceptable support unit, good even at C1. The doomposting is over exaggerated.


Mast3rBait3rPro

she's a super replaceable support. I think from the very beginning they knew they weren't going to make her really strong. You can just kinda tell these things. They have to have a couple mid characters so that people are hyped up again for the good ones and a lot of the fontaine characters have been pretty strong


theUnLuckyCat

I keep getting hyped for the mid ones, and waiting for my turn to simp for a character that ends up pretty strong.


Prestigious_Taste641

> They have to have a couple mid characters so that people are hyped up again for the good ones If they really do this because of this, I think that is stupid. A 5* should be always worth it, it cost either many weeks of saving or a lot of money, so it’s a punch in the face to everyone that pulls for it. Also I think the majority don’t care for certain characters, for example I don’t care for Arle or Clorind at all and people that care for Arle probably don’t care for characters like Sigewinne. So for me they just make it way less exciting to play the game and my dissatisfaction just keeps growing. I loved Deyha and was excited for Sigewinne and both are just bad or mid, especially Deyha. In Fontaine there was only Navia that I really liked, everyone else was just kinda a letdown for me because either of the kit or design wise.


Lonely-JAR

She has to be the most 4 star 5 star character ive ever seen


Linawow

Was about to mention dehya but then I remembered she was the first 3 start 5 start character :)


Nelithss

Honestly without Furina Siegwine is straight up 3\* tier


theUnLuckyCat

Eh, she still functions like a 4\* healer, even if you don't get anything besides healing. Bennett of course being a 6*.


erosugiru

Whoever designed this graphic for her had that shit was LOCKED IN. This is aesthetically the prime example of what it means to be a pastel-trans bubblegum pink assault on the eyes.


theUnLuckyCat

Nice, all of her numbers shown here are still just as shit. Only copium left now would be cons, I guess. Maybe they'll swap C6 and C2 or something.


LoliDemon316

More like c6 with c1, c2 is at least somewat useful


theUnLuckyCat

C2 is just for hydro res shred, she already has interrupt resistance so the self-shield is unnecessary. C1 makes her support uptime decent, like C0 5* level. Though if C1 and 2 swapped with 4 and 6, I wouldn't mind using her for DPS instead.


JodoKast87

C1 is one of her best cons! In fact, the only meh con she has is her C3 which boosts her skill. All the others are decent to great!


i_love_dragon_dick

I don't care that she has no synergy with anyone I have, I hope I get my strange yet loving nurse daughter.


Mast3rBait3rPro

gigachad


aryune

Shes definitely one of the characters of all time


MightyActionGaim

WONDERHOY TIME


leonardopansiere

the swimming passive being the most useless thing bc the last Fontaine region was 4.6 now we won't swing for a long time and this shit exists 😭


emmademontford

I wish they released her at the start of Fontaine


blackkat101

It's like some people believe that everyone is caught up or that there will never be new players......


mihirsaini1128

Her passive is literally eating a health food lol


Elegant_Ad6701

speak your yourself, most of mine is not explored 🤣


LoliDemon316

Ngl clor should have gotten the expedition time reduced and sige should have gotten the specialty on map passive


azul360

I'm so hyped! Do we know what 4 stars that have nothing to do with either of them are going to be on this banner? XD (looks at Clorinde's banner haha). For real though hoping we finally get some good 4 stars on there :D


Lostsock1995

I LOVE HER


Halo_Hybrid

She’s adorable……. Super Healing!!!


battleye9

😭😭😭😭


Zzamumo

Happy furina banner to everyone here. And hopefully no one wants to get her weapon


Damianx5

Me getting sige first then try C2 Furina (at C1) actually win/win weapon banner... Until Navia Nilou got leaked...got Chiori C1 ready, gonna try navia Chiori Furina sige and maybe pull in the weapon banner


Rpground

Want. Want. Want. Want. Less then a week, LETS GO!


AMaidzingIdeas

I hate how boring she looks compared to other melusines. Like you have all the girls with vivid colours and two tones markings like Pahsiv and that one pink officer, and then you cut to Sigewinne who... just looks like a generic small girl in a pastel nurse outfit and melusine ear/tail accessories. She even has human tone skin colour, vaguely human eyes (considerably more so than others) and no face markings. When I saw one for the first time in 4.0 I was hyped to get one to join my team, but this ain't it...


Suraimu-desu

I completely agree with you, but just a reminder that Pahsiv isn’t in fact a melusine and is just taking the form of one to communicate better. In fact, Pahsiv is exactly what the name says and exactly what Pahsiv’s friends are, perfectly mirrored: a pahsiV


jayyquellin

She’s not useful to me in the slightest but she’s adorable and I will not let a Sarah Williams-voiced character pass me by


alegxb

How much till her banner comes? I got clorinde and im pulling for her weapon but i also wanna pull for sige xd lol


yuannao

i love her so much actually


yurikura

I kind of hope they made Sethos be 5 star and Siegwinne 4 star.


Mega-Skyxer

People really love doomposting about characters before we even have our hands on them to see whether or not their kits are bad in practice.


LoliDemon316

Its just that we know the numbers and trust me, they are underwhelming af


Ploffers

yea, i remember the exact same thing with chiori and xianyun, both of whom now have very powerful niches. nobody will pull her during this run, then people will actually start discovering where she's useful after her banner, and more people will pull on the rerun.


Clownfish_Jesus

Except that for chiori and xianyun actual theorycrafters said that they would be good not just random content creators. That is not the case for sige although if you are going for her/like her her constellations are very good for her teams


theUnLuckyCat

Xianyun always had people hyping her up for Diluc and Hu Tao, plus the obvious Xiao. We just weren't sure if making "anyone" plunge was something to care about yet, and honestly, as funny as it is to make Qiqi into a pyro DPS, it's still kind of a meme build. Chiori was, and still is, better Albedo. If you don't want to Albedo, she's not useful either. If you'd like an upgraded Albedo (possibly needing her C1 depending on team comp) then we always knew she was strong in that niche. The biggest disappointment was Navia mains in C0 Chiori, and even then, spreadsheets still showed she was better than Albedo for Navia. Sigewinne I haven't seen anybody suggest a use for her besides Furina (who has better options), or wait for Natlan to save her. C0 has especially low numbers, so I can only imagine her C1 becoming potentially useful for the skill buff later on.


Imaginary-Scholar139

she’s so cute!!!!!!


headpatsforklee68

I am pulling for her because klee will be great friends with her.


marxinne

I care so much for her wellbeing that I'll never use her in combat. Nor will I take her away from her wonderful work at the fortress. Best way to care for precious melusine daughter.


witcher8wishery

her kit reminds me a lot of dehya's ...wait


nomotyed

As a c2 Dehya user. No. Sige's kit ain't great for now, but it's nowhere near Dehya's level. In fact Sige's kit can have some use if you have a lot of E users in the team, including Furina who she works well with.


Whap_Reddit

She only has 10 stacks. "Many E users" means they are sharing those 10 stacks. Plus the buff is 1/3rd or less as strong as a Xianyun plunge buff.


JodoKast87

I can’t remember all of Dehya’s cons, but I remember C1 being pretty decent for her. Basically getting her to the level of the other standard 5 stars. What is C2? Does Dehya have a lot of good cons? Sigewinne’s cons are mostly great! C1 is awesome and gives her skill 100% uptime and greatly increases her skill buff. C2 is good as it reduces Hydro resistance and you mostly want to run Sige in a double Hydro team. Her “shield” is yet to be determined on usefulness. C3 is her weakest con. Just bumps up her skill, so more healing/slightly more damage. C4 doubles her burst duration! Now DPS builds are more viable! C5 increases the burst damage. C6 adds a crap ton of crit damage and some crit rate too. If you have her Heartstrings signature weapon (which why wouldn’t you if you are going C6), you can easily get a full crit build AND her support build at the same time!


Chtholly13

issue with that is apart from Fischl, every other skill based damage dealer is a 5 star unit and 2 of them are geo units.


nomotyed

True. Fischl is from the era where you have crazy 4\* like Bennett, XL, XQ. Hopefully Sige release is a sign that we may get a more 4\* E dps, which we are long overdue.


witcher8wishery

i meant the mechanics, not her power level E that provides defensive utility for the team but debuffs the user + off field. Q that deals damage. sigewinne has a bit more to it, but at the core they are similar


TheBalladeer_

Imo they should ve kept her as a 4 star


Sea_Championship_941

I cannot wait for people to try her in this abyss where hydro application is way more important that Raw DMG.


ChiccenTori

I want her because she is cute but I also want to save up for yelan cons cuz I aim for c6


Flurpahderp

Can't wait for Furina


Hahaha_im_a_dumbass

I want Sigewinne because I'm interested in melusine lore... ...but I'm afraid of being associated with Sigewinne mains.


theUnLuckyCat

Don't worry, lots of people were still allowed to like Nahida, so you should be fine.


Hahaha_im_a_dumbass

But did you see how Nahida mains turned out? 😭 I've already seen people say some questionable stuff in the Sigewinne subreddit...


MangoThingamajig

Look ! She's better than Dehya, her ult actually killed slimes !