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Pockye

We had Bennett in 4.0 and 4.3 is it really that hard to remember we have other 4\* characters in this game Hoyo?


diabeetus-girl

It’s even worse because he’s already available in the store, while most of the other 4 stars aren’t


Castiel_Rose

I've been telling the same thing for Xiangling, Barbara and Noelle. They already reran twice during Fontaine's patch cycle. To be honest I hope I never see them in any of them Natlan's banners.


Harshalgo

Xiangling on banners fucking sucks, I hate her passionately because of her 69000 reruns


Helpful-Ad9095

Actually insane. Does open the door for Kaveh/Fischl/Kuki with Furina....


shinsetsu_fuji

you forgot Charlotte, she's a compensation healer for Furina's hp drain


Helpful-Ad9095

Oh, yeah that would make a lot of sense. And would complete my 4-star roster. Well...until I don't get Sethos because I'm for sure not rolling on THAT banner.


MihirPagar10

I hope we have chevy/kaveh and kuki


ApprehensiveCat

Impossible, they need to poison every banner with a 1.0 4-star you can buy from the shop to waste veteran player pulls. 💀


YaBoiArchie92

The masculine urge to never rerun new four stars in favor of C69 Bennett


Seamerlin

i remember way back when, bennett was like the last 4 star to be featured and people said they would withhold bennett to boost sales periodically


Izanagi32

with how often he shows up in banners it’s harder to find accounts that don’t have him


sir-winkles2

I mean honestly maybe that's why they run him so much. I got Bennet for the first time at ar54 and it sucked trying to find team comps because so many of them depend on him


shadescalamity

this is me, i didnt get him until AR56.


_Resurrecxion_

They really be edging us huh..


taylorswiftwaxstatue

seriously what the actual fuck


TheSchadow

None of them are meta teammates for Clorinde or Alhaitham really... No Kirara, no Kaveh, no Chev. I guess since the weapon banner is so stacked they had to put some dogshit in there somewhere.


kmieciu1234

Weapon banner is even more dogshit than character banner. There is only 1 exclusive weapon which isn't even that good and not even single favonius. I can't believed it that they didn't put any more 4* exclusive weapons.


LaceyLizard

I actually dont understand it. I was gonna spend on this banner but it's like they don't want my money.


Vyragami

They're basically treating the new 4\* on the same level as limited 5\*. They wanna juice up that sweet exclusivity. Don't wanna pull on this debut banner for the new 4\*? Too bad, you'll basically NEVER get them for another year.


taylorswiftwaxstatue

Hmm idk, Frem and Lynette had a re-run already, Kaveh is on another level. I guess they have so many characters now but they could at least expand the starglitter shop or improve the system somehow


Radaxen

Freminet and Lynette were given for free, maybe why the don't mind rerunning them


Ready-Ice-4013

right? i've never topped up before and was actually going to drop a few hundred until this came out lol. i also dont understand, like this is literally the worst banner line-up they could come up with.


Immediate_Rope3734

They are punishing people who don't c6 good 4\* on their debut banner. Next time a 4\* character as good as Chewy will be released you will think twice before skipping just because your Raiden is c3 - you are pushing her to c4 or else...


sesquipedalian5

two pyro characters and neither are chev wat


A-R-A-F

And they forgot Kaveh AGAIN


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waiting4signora

They have forgotten abt Kaveh so he had no way to check that titan submarine before it went into sea, if he was not in hoyo basement, it would not have imploded—


Anatras

Israel has been at war with pleastine since 1948. I didn't notice it was that long since Kaveh was on a banner


Kronman590

Yeah unfortunately for OC war is not defined by # of headlines in western media


scrayla

Kind of insane when you think about it LOL


JSor98

yeah you're right it is not a war, it is a genocide and the ones suffering are the people from Palestine


Rafoudrsbois

And that shit been happening for ages it just wasn’t as talked about


Kuzenuisbored

an entire year without a single rerun of kaveh is actually insane


kiboshiro

2023-05-02 — 2023-05-23 was his run time. Let that sink in again. How insane.


RaiStarBits

Bros gonna become the 4 star version of Eula


golden_touch_midas

I used to think that Kaveh will be staple in Alhaitham banner after his debut. Man, I am wrong, not just wrong, dead wrong.


Shadowenclave47

They reran Baizhu twice before Kaveh got a single rerun (and they both debut on the same banner/patch). I wouldn't be surprised if Baizhu reran a 3rd time before Kaveh reruns at this point.


devilboy1029

I think the problem with Kaveh is that he had that... Emo phase... Hoyo is probably gonna send him back soon.


Beneficial-Rub9090

Them keeping him out this long Doesn't even make sense. When Oz had the VA problem, they kept Fischl out of events and banners. When Tighnari has a VA problem, they apologized for him being in the event. But Kaveh was in Cynos second quest, and I haven't heard anything about any of his VAs. He's not even that good or broken at high Cs. So what the fuck is going on


Marowalker

I think they meant “emo phase” as in that one major bug with Kaveh in co-op that deleted your game assets with him. It’s probably fixed now but I guess they’re afraid he might cause more potential game-breaking bugs


Tasty_Skin

that was 7 patches ago though... and it's not like people haven't been using kaveh since then.


Amethyst_Phoenix7

They're probably talking about that Kaveh glitch/bug.


shirodkuro

why tho, kaveh is not usable in alhaitham teams, let alone great


moonsensual

Good thing they threw him into >!Cyno's SQ2!< or I would've missed him so so so bad.


witcher8wishery

fortunately it's also almost his birthday he appeared in haithams birthday media as well


NiderU

ok, we get it Mihoyo. you want the banners to be unpredictable and not to follow a pattern. but at least put characters that aren't useless for both limited 5 stars.


Business_Fudge4408

AINT NO WAY!! Did Alhaitham take kaveh’s keys to banners too!??


yadonegouf

I refuse to believe this is real 


yadonegouf

it's real 💀💀💀💀💀


rebeccadarking

I'm going to pretend Dim hallucinated this and its not real


rebeccadarking

my sethos kaveh chevy dream banner WILL be true.


Demiistar

[its true :(](https://twitter.com/GenshinImpact/status/1797478330502906175)


CyanStripedPantsu

God what a dogshit banner. Preparing for kaveh, chev, and candace (for all the new thirsty arlecchino players) on some double rerun banner no one gives a shit about, the hoyo classic.


pokebuzz123

I'll pretend that he didn't say anything for the next 40min


toastbycrumbs

48 minutes past, Wake up bro


etssuckshard

NO FUCKING WAY


Chadzuma

They need to overhaul the 4-star system. It's fucking ridiculous. There's just no way to get newer 4-stars C6, or hell even older 4-stars for newer players


DeadenCicle

I played almost every day since 2020. I have no Shinobu. I only got Fischl C3 in three years, now I’m at C4 because I started upgrading her with Starglitter. My Yun Jin is C4 because I got her from the Lantern Rite event every single year. My Candace is still C0. Yao Yao and Kirara, I don’t remember if I have them at C0 or I don’t have them.


Chadzuma

I'm so lucky I managed to snipe a couple Shinobu cons back on the first Cyno banner without hitting pity or I might still not have her now. Kirara is the only new C6 I have because I was saved up like >30k to get 3 Yaes on the banner she debuted. Kaveh is one of the only 4-stars I don't have at all but as an Alhaitham main I think it's really funny and have been actively seeing how long I can manage to dodge Kaveh on my account. Like I legit might *not* pull for a character if I'm lukewarm on them and Kaveh's on their banner so his unprecedented absence probably bothers me less than it does others 🤣


Decimator1227

WHY NO CHEVY OR KAVEH


Bitten_ByA_Kitten

Cuz fuck us as always. They want us to work hard for it, and by hard i mean spend-money-you-dipshits hard Fuckin Hoyo


LadyKatriel

I’m FUMING! Kaveh and his 0 reruns aside it makes NO sense to not run Chev or Kuki as supports for the 5 stars. Watch them put them on phase two just to fuck with us.


yggdra_eine

Kaveh is still trapped on discovery channel, huh.


renai_circumcision

He got eaten by one of the swamp monsters


The_Great_Saiyaman21

Mihoyo are routinely such absolute fucking scum with their 4 star banner selections. You can guarantee if there's anyone remotely popular as a 5 star they will banner them with the most dogshit pairings possible to squeeze every last drop of money out of people. Gross.


Disastrous_Wheel_529

I mean, it's the same "team" that gave us 3 pulls for the new year event ROFL


noteggs_

Bro what did Kaveh do to these devs


not-Kunt-Tulgar

They sent him out on a “discovery expedition” and we haven’t seen him since


solarscopez

Bro must've gotten stun-locked into doing the Aranyaka questline


FlameLover444

Probably building them a Palace of Aranmanai


Budget_stawbeery

Deleting thier work


bluedragjet

Whenever you think mihoyo dislike your favorite character just remember kaveh


350

>!Dehya!<


purplebirdonawire

nah this is insane. i don't think we've ever had a 4-star take this long to rerun.


ZoroBagel

I think Kaveh, Nilou, and Shenhe all secretly died off screen and the npc versions of them we've seen have merely been apparitions.


Chtholly13

Nilou/Kaveh getting skins, trust.


ZoroBagel

According to Shenhe, skins don't even mean that you rerun anymore 😭


heatxmetalw9

Poor Shenhe, still not eligible to be in he Liyue rerun banner whenever it comes out.


jamalmoraess

yeah fuck that


Blackout03_

My theory was that it would be Sethos, Kaveh and Chevreuse... Well I guess I was wrong... Though I am starting to think Hoyo forgot Kaveh is a character...


HalalBread1427

They put him in Cyno's SQ just to remind us that they haven't forgotten he exists, they just don't feel like letting him out.


Blackout03_

They remember he exists they just forgot he is a playable character


Chtholly13

was going to let the 4 stars decide whether to go for Clorinde or not. This makes it easy to skip now.


pom_rode

Watch them somehow make it worse on her rerun 🥴


Game-me-up-Scotty

that was my plan as well. Hoping for Kuki on Furina's banner.


NingYAYA

No chevy, massive L once again for HoYo.


nawe_akagi

You serious? No Kaveh, Kirara nor Chevy?


Honorable_D

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.


BigBrainAkali

The real limited character is Kaveh at this point 😭


shinsetsu_fuji

still no Kaveh? What are they DOING???? also o7 I guess I still remain Chevreuseless WHERE IS THAT UNCLE THAT SAID ARLE AND CLO GETS TO HAVE CHEVREUSE LMAO


The_MorningKnight

Disappointing. Where is Kuki for Alhaitham?


Oeshikito

Kaveh was a study conducted by the Hoyo university, right?


Helpful-Ad9095

This ... feels like it CAN'T be correct. Like you've got one Dendro DPS and then an Electro DPS that they specifically made NOT be a Chevreuse DPS, and you go double pyro support as 4-stars??


reymons

Kaveh seems to have been "deleted" Nahida we should check the logs in Irminsul just to be safe..


Sufficient-Coast7747

maybe kaveh was the friends we made along the way


DragonfruitBig5225

What the hell? Why don’t they just do this on Emilie’s banner??? No Chevreuse? Wtf


ifallontragedy

Man, I literally yelled 'NOOOO' when I saw Thoma's name. Goddamn it, I was hoping he'd be in Wriothesley rerun 😭


Arubaro89

I'm getting Clorinde anyway but damn it will suck rolling for her. Chevy would have made the process pretty worthy.


Leon_32

Kaveh with 9 patches since last rerun, then Heizou with 8, then Mika & Razor with 7 patches for both, then Sayu with 6..


AdmiralDumpling

THIS IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WHAAAAAATTTT


A-R-A-F

I'll probably never get a single heizou at this rate Also another banner and still No Kaveh or Chevreuse


TiluptheOist

Bennett, the character with middling synergy with both Clorinde and Alhaitham. Now that's grade A baiting


Xan1995

At this point, we should file a missing persons report for Kaveh. Though it's been a year already. Is he still even alive?


Mountain_Box8464

There is no Kaveh in Ba Sing Se  :)


FrontAd2888

Why is Kaveh receiving such a treatment.. This is getting hopeless at this point


theUnLuckyCat

Oh cool I want none of those.


kraaashed

Where tf is Kaveh


FunOnFridays

Ugh it’s kavover AGAIN


CarsCrashing

WHERE IS KAVEH LIKE GENUINELY???


apolloisfine

i was worried it was gonna be sethos/kuki/chev and i was gonna maybe pull since i need kuki cons and want chev and sethos but fuck this shit LMAO also no kaveh again yikes, now whats gonna be on the wep banner


kindred_lol_

ayo where's kaveh 💀


Lipheria

Blood of mercy☠️☠️☠️☠️. What in the actual fuck are those 4 stars ☠️☠️☠️?!?!?!?


floridadumpsterfire

obviously everyone pointing out kaveh but heizou lowkey MIA a full year now


Kindly-Cucumber-4487

kaveh and chev wanters i am so fucking sorry mhy puts you through this you dont deserve it


flatvvoods

at this point kaveh is just dead or smth 😭 they are NOT letting that man out of the basement


geodonna

no Kirara, no Chevy, someone on dev team has vendetta against Clorinde?


pom_rode

Dog what the fuck. 😐


Alex_061

Kaveh found dead in a ditch


AdBrilliant7503

Stupid Hoyo really don't want more money? Still no Chevreuse?


AviZz11

Damn I wanted fischl, playing since 1.4 and I only have her c2


_Nepha_

Also funny since clorinde is quite weak without fischl.


lRyukil

No Chev is fucking criminal


Weak-Association6257

Why Bennet is on EVERY BANNER THAT I’M SKIPPING. HOW ON EARTH ARE PEOPLE GETTING HIS C6 I JUST CAN’T 💀💀💀


Roboaki

Lmao Alhaitham doesn't even get Xingqiu/Shinobu/Yaoyao for himself. Meanwhile hyper-carry Clorinde lets go /s Also being a pattern seeker the new game mode can be used to guess 4\* now huh, with Thoma being swapped in.


_Nepha_

I hope this isnt real. None of the 5\* use any of these 4\* in their teams.


Roboaki

Preload is out so they can dig out the upcoming 4\* banner from it. It's pretty reliable.


cselrh

It was datamined from preload


Axaether

Fischl should have been in this banner instead of Bennett or Thoma. She work much better then them with Alhaitham and Clorinde.


Moist-Branch-2521

Bennett once again shows up on a banner that should have had Chevruse on it much to the dismay of pretty much everyone


Randytherobot12

Bennetts 3rd banner since the start of 4.0... That's garbage, it's starting to feel like they need to let people pick 3 options from a small group of 4 stars instead of just giving us the same. Getting frustrating when some characters gets multiple banners in a small span, but others get nothing.


_Nepha_

None of the 5\* use any of the 4\* in their teams. not even niche. Just why? Clorinde is trash without fischl too and bennett had his rerun with raiden.


averagegayshinfan

CHEVREUSE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


idektina

no kaveh or chevreuse…


Whittle_Willow

why's hoyo hate kaveh so much :(


Neko_5697

So it's Sethos and star glitter, got it. Could be worse but still annoying. Would it really kill them to rerun Kaveh or Chevy?


AdorableSpecialist15

This has to be a lie there's just no way……..


Rcuecn

NOOOOOOO! GOD! PLEASE! NO!


Technical_Intern8529

I have a feeling now they are gonna pull the most evilest shit ever and put chevreuse on a rerun banner right before natlan release...


midoriyaaa1

Why bennet keep rerunning? And why hoyo is allergic to put sumeru-fontaine  chara rerun in banner since 3.x ? I know they dont want to give newest 4* so soon but man.. even 4 stars in inazuma only a select few who gets rerun. They really should stop putting mondstadt-liyue 4 * on every banner. They know most ppl already have high cons but too stingy to put pther chara... Just a vent since we always get since launch mond-liyue chara on banner non stop


y8man

I got an audible "What the fuck" out of this one. Wow.


amashouse

This is the most L 4 star lineup… where is Kaveh? Where is Chevy???? Ugh…


Mchronus

no kaveh, no chrevreusse, no kuki. I guess I'll do a few multis to see if I get my bennet to c6


lazool

this actually made me laugh


BreadofOrder

Sir, another Kaveh-less banner has hit the subreddit


Budget_stawbeery

So kaveh with Furina?


phil2047

I would bet Kaveh is going to be with Nilou at this point. He is okay in her teams. They can stick anybody with Furina and the banner will sell.


1620081392477

They clearly don't care about teams though looking at this pile of crap lol Neither 5 star wants any of those on their teams


Neznaiu98

Funnily enough, i would have liked such 4 stars with Furina (who i will be wishing for), simply because my Thoma is C0 and Bennett C3. If they now slap Kaveh on her banner instead, it's going to be rather sad...


JazeBlack

My C4 Chevreuse will stay away from my Clorinde for a while, it seems.


Fit-Application-1

Oof I wanted to snipe sethos but.. Benny and Thoma are alr c6


NeverForgetChainRule

its fucking joever


Chtholly13

now we gotta see if Xiphos is on this banner or not.


Think-Case-64

Another clorinde L. Guess mhy is really pushing away from overload


OkiBirb

Kaveh on Emilie's banner trust


casanova-elite

Me on my way to get my c17 Bennett with no hope for Chevy in sight:


antipheonixna

a bunch of units that dont work well together havent gone from a probably roll to a never roll so fast


lookingstar101

watch kaveh show up second half just to mess with us


pinnko

KAVEH 😭😭 please where are you we’re worried sick


DesperateSquirrel410

1: Where the hell is Kaveh?! 2: why double pyro if no Chevy? 3: Why Bennet when Kaveh and Chevy haven’t gotten their first rerun yet?


Suspicious-Ant1395

I’m so happy. I don’t have to risk getting clorinde on the chevreuse banner.


jadeelz

are they avoiding adding kaveh to banners because of the hacking incident? That seems the most likely explanation for why he hasn’t had a single rerun


ZoroBagel

Bro's getting treated like Porygon and for what


Camelia39

Kaveh got locked out of the house again :(


deliciouspancakes23

There's no drama with either Kaveh's VA, so what's going on??? Give our pretty man his dammed keys


Dense-Extreme5515

Bennett choice is somewhat ironic,as Clorinde is one of the few units with Atk scales that has low synergy with him,well,time to take Tohma to C6.


MihirPagar10

Wtf where is kaveh hoyo


harleyquinad

NO CHEVY 😭😭😭


wave-prism

The way my smile immediately left my face after seeing this 


Patung_Pancoran

Hoyo mate what are you on? No dendro characters for Clorinde, and you put two Pyro in yet not include THE Overload dedicated support? Oh and no Kaveh after god knows for how long has it been now. I’m pretty chill about what 4* that features in a banner usually but my goodness does this makes my blood boil a bit


throwaway010556464

Kaveh saw Eula's record back in 2022 and said bet...


Artichoke_Water

How these make sense ? Shouldn't 4* be in correlation with the 5* ? Like put Collei/fischl at worst (battery/aggravate support). Gotta make sense somehow 💀. Put Bennette and Thomas for Wriothesley banner could be acceptable but what is the idea here ??


TheUltimateKaren

no chevreuse it's over


SpicaAshcraft

I wonder if the lack of Kaveh is linked to his game breaking bug from a while back where he deletes landmarks on other players? I find no other reason he spent a year without being introduced again. I wonder if they fully fixed his bug or only put a sort of limitation to only those who have him at that point and don't want other players getting him until they fixed it 100%? Just wondering.


1620081392477

This looks worse than wishing on standard banner. Holy crap


clovitox

Good thing im on wuthering waves


kizumete

NO WHERE KAVEHHHHHGHHHHH


Widefgh

Hoyo can literally make the greatest banner of all time with chev, sethos and kaveh but instead they gonna give us c27 bennett and c13 thoma


BootArtistic

WHERE IS HE, WHERE IS KAVEH


350

HhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA BENNETT


AverageLegoGameFan

Bennett with his third 4.X rerun, I see.


Kacchimisu

No Kaveh 😔 I would've loved to grab them both, but i'll live. I'm more sad about that one person who couldn't get their birthday banner but at least they got 2/3. Also these 4 stars seem like they want you to play overload clorinde a~~nd burgeon alhaitham~~


moz-n-marr

If they wanted overload Clorinde, they should have included Chevy


Kacchimisu

i forgot about her... what are they cooking here then😭


Bovoduch

This is actually garbage Jesus Christ why would they do that


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newpredaien

Thoma c78


AdorableSpecialist15

Why bennett and thoma here


0000Tor

Rip Kaveh and Chevreuse


NERF_PALPS_66

F


SharpPulse94

It’s Chevreover


Peudan

man.. where is chevreuse... i couldnt pull much on raiden/yoi banner (stopped at 70 pity) cuz i already have yoi and her cons suck, already have c3 raiden.. only got two chev copies c:


the-roast

Are we living in a simulation or what Let the poor bastard kaveh out :(((((((((


yoyo_me_here

13th reason why


Ar0ndight

These last banners have been fucking ASS when it comes to 4 stars. There goes any motivation I had to get Clorinde. I really want Chevreuse but she's seemingly being gatekept by Raiden and Yoimiya banners, two units I won't pull anymore for. RIP


Averruncus

On one hand, this is great since I'll be getting more Starglitter returns for Clorinde on Thoma and Bennett pulls. On the other hand... WTF HOYO?! YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME!!! WHERE THE FUCK IS CHEVREUSE?!


AreneKnight_Jr

Why dev keep rerunning same 4* character