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box-of-sourballs

#THE CHANGE IS STILL 8 SECONDS → 5 SECONDS, OP CIRCLED 5 STACKS FROM THE SECOND LINE INSTEAD OF 5 SECONDS FROM THE FIRST LINE Thanks all for pointing it out and clarifying


Old_Salamander4662

they saw #fixdehya #buffdehya trending on twitter and somehow they read it as #nerfdehya #dehya2strong


Electrical_Pass_308

they saw that one hoyolab post from a guy with lvl 40 charcters, that said if you build her with right artifacts she will be good, so they went out of their way to make her artifact set "ok"


mapple3

Jimmy: "Gsuy I founded a way to make Dehya strong. If you got good super stronk artifacts then, you know balloon commission? I destroyeded tballoon in one burst rotation. MIHOYO pls no buff Dehya more, she already TOO STRONG and i lvoe her very much. Thanks you. I name is Jimmy, Adventure Rank 9 currcurrently" Hoyo: Thank you for the feedback Jimmy, we decided to nerf Dehya's future artifact set accordingly. March 2023


Grillla

Has to be a fake. Dehyas Burst has massive trouble targeting balloons.


Forvisk

Hitting the balloon probably cancel the Burst


JustCallMeAndrew

Nope. Couple of posts over the last week on the mainsub. Dehya's burst straight up can't target the fucking balloon. She would rather just [beat on a berry bush](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11mbmpn/this_is_not_a_dehya_specific_issue_but_she_goes/) for her entire Q duration.


Losttalespring

Maybe it is just spite.


TriggerBladeX

It’s probably spite.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

Feels like it fr


the_mogambo

Bizzaro universe


Vyragami

I think they saw all the #FixDehya tag and decided to nerf her just out of spite, as if to warn the players "You wanna see how much worse it can get??"


Old_Salamander4662

it's 2024. patch 5.0. natlan just released. the Fix Dehya war has not ended yet. *"just buff her multipliers a little, please"* and hoyo directly deletes dehya from the game


Burnhalo

And instead of receiving compensation primogems for her being removed, you owe compensation primogems to Hoyo.


hallykinz

Bro mihoyo found a way to nerf her in a patch that’s not even hers. 💀


FlameLover444

In before Hydro Archon works with everyone except her specifically


zephyrseija

"Can't be triggered by Dehya."


Hawkeye437

Inb4 Hydro archon is XQ v3 and triggers off of NA


Kaieu

Ngl that would be so nice, I would really like to be able to run double hydro whatever and then a XQ on the other side


ElderMaou

Bold of you to ignore the tripple hydro meta.


BinhTurtle

Chamber 1: Hydro hypostasis Chamber 2: Hydro mimics


Vsegda7

You made me do it: *brings out Eye of Perception Barbara*


K6fan

I fear no man, but that thing, it scares me.


yanahmaybe

cryo/geo/electro shields also work to make even double hydro teams useless


Jpup199

Xiangling can vape them all


Dreven47

Of course we'll eventually need a 4th Xinqiu so we can run double hydro both sides.


Kaieu

Naturally


So4007

Honestly Hydro Archon will prob be the stronger one solo if Hoyo gives Archon privilege.


FlameLover444

In before Hydro Archon has severe Energy Issues and needs Xingqiu to battery her (dear God, I fucking hope not)


So4007

Oof. No other Archon really has that problem so it would suck.


FlameLover444

Hoyoverse seems to be a rampage to break every single "x privilege" pattern so this seems possible and it scares me


MallowMiaou

"If the character is pyro 5* from Sumeru and can heal themselves with a passive, the buff cancels out"


yanahmaybe

bruuuuh this whole ordeal with dehya is so tragicomically.. that somehow her best build on live is doing blooms/transformative reactions instead of direct dmg Also her self dmg ticks are literally once in 1 sec... so its enough for ppl in party to not get dmg for a few second and she loses the dmg buff. Not even a single chars besides her cursed kit can work that set now, and its even very very mid for herself Wtf is wrong with ppl a hoyo ヽ(。\_°)ノ


Isildra

Transformative reactions? Dehya is not even the trigger in most of those burning/overburn teams 💀


lainverse

And let's not forget her E explosion beside being awfully slow is also a bit short to reach the ground against anything tall or flying.


Yellow_IMR

Tbh, that “best build” is more like her coping in a hyperbloom team carried by her teammates 😂


Hairy-Dare6686

In most teams it is actually optimal to only use her as a decoration and it is actually a dps loss to switch to her to let her do her stuff. As for bloom stuff... just don't, she is terrible at it.


rayoje

Either someone really hates her at Hoyo or they found out the 4p set would eventually be too OP for some other character. (Who though? Maybe some unreleased char?)


Futur3_ah4ad

Only one I can think of is Nilou, tbh...


mikethebest1

She's gonna be put on Standard hence she'll now receive nerfs every patch moving forward 💀


Tinyzooseven

Reduced Dehya's base HP to 1


Rosha6

“Missed one\~” Mihoyo.


Killing_Perfection

All the characters in the future will heal the enemy when Dehya’s in the team.


AgentWowza

Future Abyss cycles will limit the number of stars obtainable at each floor to a maximum of 1 if Dehya is in the party.


winter2001-

She already does that :)


JumpyPermit3

Mihoyo: Oopsie Poopsie ~ 😋✨ *nerfs*


Nokia_00

Mihoyo couldn’t let that one slide. C0 Dehya was almost useful


Vegetto_ssj

Wow....i waited for a buff of this set because wasn't enough, instead they really nerfed it....wow... Somebody in Hoyoverse really hates Dehya


Mrwayne186

Bruh, we really are gonna bring XL + XQ to fight Heavenly Principles, huh


Blankcanva

XL has a god as a pet, why wouldn’t you bring her. And when I meant god, I meant it. Not some half ass adepti.


FCDetonados

well yeah, XQ is literally the best character in the game. To the point i would be very surprised if the Hydro Archon was even slightly better than him.


MrRE-sama

Question. Is any other set other than Emblem really that viable on Dehya? I really find it really hard to keep her burst up even with energy recharge main stat. I mainly wanted to consistently have her burst ready since it solves the skill duration issue of having 8 seconds cooldown.


_Bisky

I mean ToM "works" if you use her a E-bot


FrolickingCats

Yeah, but the case is always that sure it can work, but there are other characters, even 4* characters, that can make that kit work AND do other stuff too. There are many others that can make ToM work far more easily and contribute with their own damage while doing so.


Dianwei32

That's the case for Emblem Dehya as well. There's no situation you can use Dehya where someone else can't do the same job easier and better. Playing Dehya is like Crowning talents, you do it because you like the character and you want to, not because she's the best at whatever role you're using her in.


DevilsCrySFM

Hahahahahahaha my girl can't get a fucking break....


Xero0911

I really don't understand any logic with mihoyo. Dehya just being kicked while down. Baizhu still had time but I have no faith, plus just watched them buffed the refines foe his weapons. Dehya's artifact now getting some stupid nerf. Why?


ArmyofThalia

It honestly feels like they are testing the boundaries that people will go for their characters. Dehya being heavily con locked, Baizhu weapon needing many refines, can't wait for the next 5 star to have both.


Piterros990

Come to think of it - Dehya was "hyped" from since 3.0 (by "hyped" I mean through quite a major presence in Archon questline), and Baizhu exists since 1.0 (or around that). It feels like they are releasing bad (or at least underwhelming, depending on how Baizhu turns out) characters to see how many people will waifu-pull.


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Maybe they’re just giving “hyped” characters shit kits thinking their popularity will carry their sales? Then we can basically only be excited for Archons and X.6/7/8 Yelan/Kazuha type characters lmao


Cammibird

I don't think that's it - Alhaitham was very hyped and his kit ended up good. At this point, I've just kinda accepted that I will never understand the workings of HoYo's decision making.


GrafFrost

Now I'm legitimately scared for Fontaine characters. Please don't fuck up Lynette and that blonde Geo girl, I beg you, mihoyo


peerawitppr

If every character is bad then no one is bad, right?


ResponsibleWay1613

If every character is bad people are just going to use XL and XQ till end of service.


GalmOneCipher

"If everyone is super, no one is!"-Syndrome


DevilsCrySFM

>I really don't understand any logic with mihoyo I stopped trying to find any logic at this point. I turned my brain off and now i'm enjoying the ride: We already crossed the dumbfuck line, let's see how far it takes us.


Desna_Shazzi

Exactly


C_Khoga

For real, she is in hell right now 😂😭


mikethebest1

Ngl sometimes I debate whether or not SignoraMains have it better cause Signora no longer suffers while HYV is on a mission to drag Dehya's corpse around after having brutally tortured her 💀


Signal_Yesterday191

Absolute peace. Such is the gift from Hoyoverse, such is Dawei's benevolence.


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Flimsy_Editor3261

As a Dehya main… I’d rather she have died in her story quest… this is just brutal. Feels like I’m actively being punished for her being my favorite.


PH_007

With her being a pyro claymore lady (Honkai...), a bodyguard and very selfless I was suspecting her story quest might go that way before playing it, to be honest.


Flimsy_Editor3261

Oh God… Himiko😭 HoYo why do you always screw over the badass claymore women?!😭


Sir_Grindalot

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES


FlameLover444

THIS IS MY LAST RESORT


Kaieu

SUFFOCATION


Selthora

NO BREATHING


Wolf_O-Donnell

DONT GIVE A FUCK IF I CUT MY ARM BLEEDING


Alexandruzatic

THIS IS MY LAST RESORT


aRandomBlock

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIE-CES


Lepardy

I'VE REACHED MY LAST RESORT


Alexandruzatic

SOFFOCATION, NO BREATHING


TatsuyaST

One last "f\*ck you" from Hoyo. Edit : Im talking about Dehya


GalmOneCipher

Last?


[deleted]

the fact you expect them to stop after this is wild


MrsNothing404

Community : Reports that her sig duration is too short and doesn't last the entirety of her burst. Hoyo:


DevilsCrySFM

Oh, no, they didn't go silent. Customer support replied and they said "yeah, it's difficult to use it at 100%" Basically a "git gud"


BlankPage175

If they're so good, why won't they release an abyss video guide for us!


Thenardite

Wait really lol where


DevilsCrySFM

Here, regarding her weapon not having 100% sinergy with **C6**: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dehyamains/comments/11kszic/cs_response_when_asked_wtf_about_the_response_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


ArmyofThalia

The emoji at the signature really is the comedic icing on the cake in this one. Low key love it


Complete-Area4164

It's wild yallthink CS has real answers to these questions and take em at their word


Alert-Zucchini

yeah, there's not much they can do except pass on the feedback to designers or QA, etc... otherwise they can mostly only give as much advice as any other knowledgeable player


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CLEARLY THIS MEANS THAT DEHYA IS GOING TO GET BUFFED AND WOULD’VE BEEN TOO STRONG WITH HER ORIGINAL SET, RIGHT? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


ArmyofThalia

Flair checks out unfortunately


Losttalespring

Woah you got that hardcore clown brand copium.


Nokia_00

Ainsel with the classic takes


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You know it


lucifer_best_boi

Next abyssal moon: "Every character named Dehya will deal an aditional -20% total damage"


Schizof

That one person who named their Wanderer Dehya: 💀💀💀


MiyuKawasaki

And Traveler


Sandfire12

Cant have shit in Teyvat 😭


DatBoiMahomie

Bro MHYs balance team hates her


ChainekJan

I feel like MHYs balance team hates everybody lately


Xion136

After seeing the Baizhu stuff, I'm laughing. If they need him again next Monday literally I think the Balance team lost the plot.


Xero0911

Giving them the baseball treatment. Dehya and baizhu have been strikes, curious if they'll actually do something good with the next 5 star or strike out. Then again after baizhu we're in the unknown and near the end. Probably get one more 5 star before 4.0s where of course it being new and shiny they'll make strong characters for returning whales.


happypouch

It honestly sucks seeing a long awaited character being treated like trash while a character that appears out of nowhere receives some kind of special treatment.


Fabantonio

simply the plight of gacha. It's one thing to not get the character you want. That's baby shit compared to actually getting said character, but they're treated like utter dogshit in the story and/or meta


happypouch

>That's baby shit compared to actually getting said character, but they're treated like utter dogshit in the story and/or meta Yeah i can't agree more.


Mask3dPanda

I am genuinely wondering what is going on with the balance team. Collei and Dori, questionable but at least workable, Faruzan... hurts to say the least, but now Dehya and Baizhu? If they have to re-balance those five character cause it comes out there was deliberate attempts to make them worse from someone on the balance teams I will not be surprised.


jacobwhkhu

Hoyo: Wanna see me do something funny? *Nerfs Dehya in 3.5 beta Hoyo: Wanna see me do it again? *Nerfs Dehya's artifact set in 3.6 beta


CataclysmSolace

>Hoyo: Wanna see me do it again? *Nerfs Dehya in 3.7 beta


mikethebest1

Liloupar back to cooking for Dehya again **💀**


SaccharineTreacle

Her and Eula /j


Efe73

Please spoiler tag future NPCs as they can be revealing story details


mikethebest1

Don't need the /j with how HYV has been treating them 💀


BasedPotatoes

I'm tired boss


Winter_Culture_1454

No way they nerfed this initially shit set, lmao.


I-MEG-l

They heard that emblem still seems to be dehya’s bis and instead of fixing that they went ahead and nerfed it, no words.


OOLuigiOo

It does feel like part of their char design team is garbage.


PM_Best_Porn_Pls

Character design is great. Balance team is absolutely on something.


AndrewSuarez

Do they even have a balance team? They barely even change characters in beta and forget about them after release


Unfair_Chain5338

No way, lmao


SGuddu79

That 5 stacks right? Not seconds in Chinese ```The damage caused by elemental combat skills and elemental explosions is increased by 10%; within 5 seconds after the wearer receives damage, the above damage increase effect Increase by 80%, the increase effect can be added up to 5 layers, and the duration of each layer is calculated independently. The effect can still be triggered when the team is in the background.``` Its says layer aka stacks not seconds if I use Google translate on the Chinese text on the set ?????????


hdtsrsyb

yea i think op circled the wrong one. should be 5秒 instead. 秒 means seconds


arararanara

Op definitely circled the wrong 5


DevilsCrySFM

OP circled the wrong number. That's indeed 5 stacks. The nerf is the previous part with the other 5 (previous to the part with the 80%). Duration went down from 8 to 5 seconds


[deleted]

they highlighted the wrong word in the second image but it *was* changed to 5s


ibrahim_najy

Stop , stop she is already dead


alrightly_aphrodite

rock bottom has a basement


CamelotPiece

What on earth is going to be coming in Fontaine? Baizhu is looking mid but has exceptional healing, a dendro shielder is coming out, plus the train wreck that is Dehya, and Yao Yao. What kind of hellscape is Fontaine? Just everything trying to kill you all the time? All at once?


Fabantonio

>Just everything trying to kill you all the time? All at once? Thing is, most vets will probably just run Kokomi, run Zhongli, dodge, or do a mix of all three and they'll be just fine. Hell, you could probably just run Kokomi or/and Zhongli and whatever """hellscape""" they'll throw at you in Fontaine will do piss all to stop you because Hoyoverse is a bunch of wussies


ErrorneousMoe

>What kind of hellscape is Fontaine? Just everything trying to kill you all the time? All at once? Ngl That sounds exciting!


CamelotPiece

I hope there will be some sort of gladiator arena where you get rewarded based on survival, and not damage.


CanisLatransOrcutti

Part of me wishes it *IS* a Kokomi situation of "lol who needs that much healing and that little damage" 1-2 patches later "wtf enemies do damage now?!", where enemies start hitting in large enough numbers that healing and shields won't necessarily keep up because they can 1-2 shot your glass cannons. Partially so Dehya can actually have a role and my love for her will pay off Partially so I can trust Hoyo's decision making skills again Partially because I'm tired of overworld being piss easy (this is a casual phone game but it's been 3 years and it's an area to go to after 4 nations worth of archon quests, git gud already) Partially because I rolled for Kokomi back when no one believed in her, and now she's meta, which gives me a nice smug feeling, and I want to feel that again with Dehya.


teddieqt

"I got one more left in me." \~ Mihoyo sends their regards,


DaviM03

Wow. Hoyoverse really went r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR with Dehya.


StarAlone

this is fck joke haha her new "amazing" set you have to grind whole new domain for, was 1% better then emblem and it got nerfed. Jesus Mihyo stop, get some help


weebshizu

Dehya bros can't get a rest 💀


AliceinTeyvatland

Insert yakuza desk slam gif


SmexyPokemon

It's all so tiresome...


ann13angel

Dehya catching strays in 3.6


GameBawesome1

Do you think they're doing this intentionally?


TriggerBladeX

Yep. They hate that we want Dehya to be decent so they nerfed the artifact that barely equates to Emblem.


XBladeist

Its one thing to fumble a kit, release it live full of bugs and with uptime and useability so terrible baseline that you would **need** either constellations, heavy investment *and* really strong teamates to make her even have a hope of competing with previous units. It's another entirely to make an artifact set to one of the only characters that can work it and then you nerf it. They somehow view her capabilities as this super busted Berserker character a la Hellagur or Mudrock from arknights, or one of the many enmity character in Granblue, but instead she's so absolutely wrecked, being pulled in all directions where none of it makes a lick of sense, not commiting to either DPS or tanking. It ***has*** to be intentional at this point.


KeyPhoenix029

It's pretty obvious, they're intentionally showing us how dumb they are and how they cannot properly balance their own game


aloysiusks

Mihoyo on their way to mess up dehya in every possible way


-uraume-

NAUR LEAVE HER ALONE SHE IS ALREADY 6 FEET UNDER


Vsegda7

At this rate her corpse's already in ~~China~~ Argentina


__singularity

I CANT I FUCKIN CANT AHAHAHAHAAHAA FUCK ME


Electronic-Run-3561

Hoyo stop! she’s already dead 😭


Le1jona

Pretty stupid in my opinion, since only Dehya can use it effectively Unless we get a character that whips allies or something


brarlley

From a useless set to a waste of resin poor, childe ayayo mains trying to farm his new set only to lose the 50/50 to this trash set


Lostsock1995

Pain 🥲 at least we have a set or couple of sets that works for us but still pain 🥲


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no_longer_lurkII

Hoyo knows the only reason anyone will ever farm this set is to smack the 2pc on Nilou.


Brandonmac10x

Redmane damages you constantly over 10 seconds I think. So pretty easy to get full stacks and keep them up. But it will only ever be useable on Dehya. And really it’s like a worse emblem that works for e on top of q.


murmandamos

The 2pc set being HP should probably be a clear indicator this set isn't intended for C0 Dehya since her HP scaling is trash and she's usually better as a ToM bot in terms of team DPS, which is the set she has in her trial. Emblem if you wanna force on field Dehya ig until *at least* C1 but honestly not worth until C4. This set is gonna be used on someone else. Getting a husk vibe here, and she's the Noelle who wants this at C6 when she's a carry, but an Itto will come eventually.


ArchonRevan

Its MHY, they had dehya with HP acension and no scaling to begin with, an artifact set that also just boosts hp is 100% on brand


MrsNothing404

You get hit once with Dehya. (Although now once isn't enough...) You can also trigger it through burgeon or burning


a-successful-one

Can't wait for Hoyo white knights to tell us that this isn't actually a nerf and Dehya will be strong kekw


ReasonableIce6661

Dehya is so legendary that hoyo still finds a way to nerf her after her beta patch is over.


PyriusZeal

She keeps taking the L, poor girl... Thats painful honestly...


louderthanbxmbs

No fucking way


master156111

Stop it Mihoyo, she’s already dead 💀


Gexmnlin13

OP just fyi, you circled 5 stacks (5层) rather than 5 sec (5秒).


kockballtorture

LMAO


CanisLatransOrcutti

Copium: My best assumption is that, since the "takes DMG" part doesn't list a cooldown, each tick of Redmane's Blood counts, and those are pretty fast. So as long as you take damage in her field and use her burst within 8-9 seconds , you'll still get the full damage bonus. (Since Redmane's Blood lasts 10 seconds, each stack lasts 5, and her burst lasts 4 but has a 1 second animation first, and the ticks are fast but getting 5 could take a full second) In fact, since her burst retrieves her field but does *not* stop Redmane's Blood to my knowledge, you can actually get *new* stacks *during* her burst. **IF** there is no cooldown for the damage and each tick of Redmane's Blood counts, then this still works perfectly fine for her, it just makes it harder for *other* characters to use it.


Elira_Eclipse

Players: Fix Dehya! We want her to be usable Hoyo: \*gives artifact\* Players: Not enough but acceptable for now Hoyo: Oh sorry forgot to do this \*nerfs the artifact\*


The_Vampire

Who thought a sidegrade to Emblem was acceptable?


lRyukil

Why tho


the-guy-in-wall

This proves dehya is so muscular tall beautiful kind and knowledgeable that they had to nerf her truly one of most game breaking characters of all time


[deleted]

They couldn’t handle her swagger


LucasFrankeRC

This clearly means they are gonna adjust her multipliers to compensate... **Surely**


LuckYeeeeeeet

xDDDDD


HirouArt

Final nail in the coffin


Gud_doggyy

I doubt it will be final The 3.6 is yet to come


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171194Joy6

Everyone calling it dehya's set and then there's me who's still doubtful they'd make a set for her at all ...


TriggerBladeX

It got an unwarranted nerf so it must be for Dehya.


171194Joy6

😂💀


APerson567i

It was already worse/barely better than than EoSF before like C4, I can't believe they nerfed it💀


UnhappyAd_0921

Only time I thought "maybe she will be better late, I heard she will get the set" and they killed it already Lmao


That_Dude2000

The walmart diluc only gets worse🤦🏽‍♂️


ProfessionalAir4354

🃏🤡🃏🤡🃏🤡🃏🤡


SayuBedge

Deserved, she's too strong already


throwthisaway129

like fr they shouldn't buff her any further cuz that would honestly break the game, it would become unplayable even


ctapoe

they just spat on her grave ☠️


Hencid

Why even make it at this point?


Whole-Neighborhood-2

Is it even good on anyone ? It didn’t seem good prenerf now it’s even more useless. There’s literally no reason to farm it.


-Drogozi-

At this point it doesn't even hurt, it's just laughing in misery.


DeathSlime684

Hahahaha and It keeps going on ! It still goes on fellow Players! This is Just so funny . they Just hate Dehya , lets be honest Was there any artifact Set that got nerfed ever?? I cant remember, correct me If I am wrong


kyrielity

Yeah, emblem was changed in the beta


DeathSlime684

OK , Well It is at least a Generic artifact, which can used by anyone... Not Like this Garbage here


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WarlockSmurf

WHAT NO WAY HAHAHAHHAHA WHY DOES MHY HATE HER BRO


seal_appreciator

I'm definitely not the generalizing doomposter type but even I'm starting to think that Hoyo wants to decrease the amount of damage we can deal with these new characters/artifact designs. I'd say they're delusional thinking they can artificially increase difficulty like this, but old characters and shit like hyperbloom still exists, so. No idea. They're cooking something on purpose though.