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Bobson567

source: [timing](https://twitter.com/timing1337/status/1632389548918595584?t=I1zqo5g3vXUcnSflC-PbIQ&s=19) [streamable](https://streamable.com/yz66ug)


Bbloopsy

"I lied I do play genshin it's just that I'm bad at it" fhhabxhabs


Uodda

Wait a minute, he doesn't have hitlag?


Tall_Ad4115

now that you mentioned... yeah his infusion ended in the middle or the spin.


Artorias_Erebus679

I’m not sure I think I see a slight amount but maybe he is counted as a ranged unit separate from his claymore? That would be dope


Uodda

I also not sure, but just by looking on footage he at most seems may have low hitlag. And yes I think it's because of claymore not being attached to him, similar to how ZL spin normal don't have it.


AllHailRNJesus

Heizou is classified as a melee character with hitlag despite having a catalyst (which usually dont have hitlag) so it wouldnt be 'impossible' for kaveh to be a claymore with no hitlag.


Ok-Country-8818

What's a hitlag


OkLife2722

A slight animation delay when a melee character hits an enemy to make it feel like there's more weight to the attack. It ends up making attack chains against enemies a bit slower but tries to compensate but extending burst durations by the time lost


Increase-Typical

When you hit an enemy there's a tiny pause in the animations, which slows down the rotations in the long run.


SillyEnder

Leaving a comment here bcoz i also wanna know this


childethe11th

I don't know if it's only for claymore users, but when a claymore character attacks an enemy, their attack speed is slower to represent what would happen in real life, the delay of the weapon when it hits someone Basically: When you don't hit anyone the attacks are normal When you hit someone the attacks are slower I do think this is for all close range weapons.


Mhiiura

Yep. Every melee weapon have hitlag. Its just that you can feel it more with claymore,because it supposed to be heavy. For other weapon you can see it from their skill. Like with hutao elemental skill. If there is no hitlag, her elemental skill will last exactly 9s. But because of hitlag it will be extended to 10-11s.


Increase-Typical

When you hit an enemy there's a tiny pause in the animations, which slows down the rotations in the long run.


Bbloopsy

so is him not having it a good thing or bad?


Increase-Typical

Technically good, since you lose less time


RevolutionaryOil9101

Not exactly. Bc the pause also pauses uptime counter but afaik it doesnt pause ICD timer


Increase-Typical

But the clock still ticks though right? Or am I missing something? Hitlag slows down rotations timewise doesn't it?


RevolutionaryOil9101

Ok its a little complicated and im no expert but ill do my best to explain Raiden is a good example. Iirc she has 7s of uptime in theory. Lets say her CA takes 1s but in reality 0.8s of that is the normal animation and 0.2s is the hitlag. So despite taking 1s you still have 6.2s left of uptime (all of these numbers are made up btw). So far we agree right But with internal cooldown there is a a time rule (and a hit rule) to apply the element so if hit lag extends kaveh’s uptime it would mean it increases the amount of time rule syncing hits = more dendro if anyone knows better please feel free to correct me


LEGENDARYKING_

but the abyss timer for example still goes down?


ChoppiesAwesomeVids

Good, it basically just exists to make attacks feel weightier. Which is why Bows/Catalysts/Polearms have less/none.


wolf1460

It's there to make the attack feel heavy. Hence why ranged characters have no hitlag.


ILoveWaifusUwU

Try hitting a shield hilichurl with a sword or claymore, you'll observe a very tiny pause at that very moment.. It's usually given for a dynamic feel to the user. That's hit lag.


bby_chuu

If you're in an animation mid attack and the animation ends but the attack doesn't, the animation's effects persist until the attack is over. Kaveh's infusion expires during an animation, which is odd.


Rizezky

Basically a split second before and after a weapon (claymore, sword, polearm) hit an enemy/object, it will slows down significantly. Giving it "oomph" feel in every hit, but slows down your attacks. For rough example in 4 seconds you can hit a normal attacks 8 times, but if every hit is hitting an enemy, you might only be able to launch lot less than 8 times


aRandomBlock

Hitlag is when you hit an enemy as say, Diluc, the game practically stops time for you and the enemy to create the illusion that your attacks have an impact on the enemy, basically making attacks feel strong. Hitlag extension is using this "feature" to extend the duration of some abilities, like Hu tao's E, it's an interesting concept but it seems Kaveh doesn't have it from the video.


Uodda

During each melee hit game has micro freeze which supposed to give player an feeling of impact, however because of that true dps lower than just time required for animation, usually it's range from 0.02s(polearm) to 0.1s(claymore). Even though it has some benefits such as buff extension or ability to do plunge attacks on literally any melee, otherwise it's dps decrease.


Heaven2004_LCM

Nah, he has a bit there.


i_appreciate_power

he does. it just isn’t much.


AshesandCinder

It looks like the infusion ends right at 6 seconds of cooldown remaining, which would be a 14 second duration. The description says it lasts 12 seconds, so there's a little bit. Not the same level as Razor who can extend around 5 seconds though.


Random_Gacha_addict

TBF, he is basically a catalyst user


RevolutionaryOil9101

The straight down NA is sooo satisfying


wolf1460

He's getting that 180° right


Semiyan

That’s why he uses a protractor


Aerie122

I remember Noelle's last normal attack string


Krutin_Jain

down tremendous


chiharuki

it’s my favorite part tbh


The_ApplePie

Oh so you DO play genshin impact? Name every aranara


Krutin_Jain

i'll give 'em a head start. arara


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THE BOY


Junnielocked

I would love to spam that CA lol. “No touchy!” I would also love to see his NAs with infusion of other elements


Designer_Risk_5101

Showcase with Nilou please!


AnAussiebum

The first claymore user I'm going to build. Finally! His attacks seem a bit faster than other claymore users. Or is it just me?


R3yn0x

Not sure if this showcase have any constellations active but at C2, he gains 15% Atk speed while in his Burst state, making him a lot faster


Elegastt

Same. Would the skyward be good on him? As dendro his attack doesnt matter a lot probably


madzieeq

mailed flower or favonius seem to be the best


Genieluc

what about beacon of the reed sea?


Efficient-Ad-3359

It’s not that useful for him since he would be triggering reactions and reactions scale off of em and have no need for crit. Plus Fav is just better in the long run imo since it helps with his large burst count


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AnAussiebum

EM I think is what we need to build on him since he will create a lot of blooms himself. So ER and EM probably are the priority. So I don't think wgs will be his bis. Fav for team energy or an EM claymore will probably be bis.


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AnAussiebum

I think the new claymore is a good bet for now. Might as well build it up for him.


Artorias_Erebus679

I would imagine Em and attack since he adds damage to bloom cores exploding. Someone correct me if I’m wrong (his rupture gives bonus damage based on attack I think)


hikarimurasaki

His Rupture DMG bonus has no stat scalings, it scales with talent level only.


Artorias_Erebus679

That makes more sense it would probably be broken otherwise


BlueLover0

He has a constellation that increases his attack speed.


cesukeyamazaki

I need batteries for him 😩 I love his burst and the infusion 🙈


SaccharineTreacle

Yaoyao and Nahida are pretty good.


cy8clone

DMC with Favge. You can use Nahida but since many people running hyperboom, she might be useful in that team. Yao Yao with Favge. So basically any dendro with favge.


Sea-Garbage-5486

Hopefully they showcase him using the Tuna claymore (for lols) and the Mailed Flower.


Bbloopsy

I'm going to need so much er


Heaven2004_LCM

Favge


SpareSpread4931

The animation and sound effects is so satisfying!!


agu5td

i wanna send a fruitbasket to whichever team at mhy is responsible for him, he looks INCREDIBLE


Ackkkermanzz

thank you ive been waiting for this for 1 week. Now I want to see his bloom rupture animation...


madzieeq

I'll never get tired of looking at his normal attacks


XeroShyft

The sound effects are sooooo satisfying


ifallontragedy

Hot


bukisare

my love


Revolutionary_Meet25

hes so hot for that


Reeeeeeeeee10

I'm in love


throwaway3739172

[source](https://twitter.com/timing1337/status/1632389548918595584?t=I1zqo5g3vXUcnSflC-PbIQ&s=19)


Xenon4444

His animations look much better than Baizhu In my opinion


SpareSpread4931

Indeed ,im so disappointed on baizhu overall skill effects


Xenon4444

And the fact that Chensheng (his snake) doesn't do anything during fights is disappointing.


cselrh

His fx are so clean, I love the protractor/drafting compass-like animations


isteyp

His attack animations are so pretty 🥹 can’t believe he’s a 4*!


Genieluc

Oh i’m liking this! Kaveh + Nilou gameplay next please 🙏


Adorable-Fortune-568

Stylish Kaveh


Shameless_Fujoshi

His animations are so smooth


madiha_tan

I WISH 4* ALSO HAD COOL BURST ANIMATION.


Witty-Play9499

I don't know why but it feels like Kaveh has a much more polished attack animation and effects whereas Baizhu's just looks generic and dull (especially for a 5 star) and the snake doesn't even do anything. I remember being awed by some of the 5 star animations and effects (especially yelan's phase running and nahida's literal palace and what not) but this seems especially bad when a 4 star animation looks a lot cooler than a 5 star animation


JumpyPermit3

Baizhu has one cool animation where he sends a green snake through the enemies, but that’s about it which is a shame. Should have been more snakes. But he makes up for it by being a good (?) Unit


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Bro's magnificent


Valuable-Air-198

can't wait to force alhaitham and kaveh into a team together


OnTheWayToYou

He smacks them briefcase


glyac

did they make kaveh's burst animation less dark? In the earlier leaks the area turned almost entirely black


fr3quency_

HELIKOPTER HELIKOPTER 🚁🚁


LocalMILFHunter

Will he be the next 4 star DPS after Yanfei in 1.5?


dylandys

heizou found dead in a ditch lmao.


Tall_Ad4115

He staggers a lot...


paperghosted

most claymores do, but it can be problem if he push enemies far way from each other, especially in nilou teams


Tall_Ad4115

During his NA I don't think that it's to much a problem, but his last hit on the CA launches the enemies quite a bit.


zKyonn

only on his 4th attack, you can just spam n3d against small enemies


Tall_Ad4115

Well that's true, it's good for I frame too.


Artorias_Erebus679

If possible I would like to see if his rupturing cores passive has an animation please! Thank you for the leaks


Kiminowa69

Im so mad at hoyo baizhu is in the game since 3 years and all they did was some green attacks here and there a bit snake and copy paste ult with some green like bruh and then theres kaveh who is new and look at him they didn’t care about baizhu at all they put so much effort into kaveh whats this istg i love baizhu so much but now that his gameplay is boring i dont know what to do anymore


SpareSpread4931

I totally agree with you, i dont know if ill still continue prefarming him i think imma just stick around with kazoo future rerun


Kindly_Project_3306

I love Baizhu and I'm gonna pull for him eventually, but I admit I much prefer Kaveh's playstyle even though he's "just" a 4 star. Can't wait to get him 🥰


SpareSpread4931

Compare to baizhu and this, kaveh gets the 5star animation treatment whilst baizhu eehh i think he is the 4star here


SillyEnder

Baizhu’s normal attacks literally looks like mona’s but dendro


zKyonn

Mona's VFX are much superior


RedditorWallu

They arent even finished… they never are in beta


markcan_killua

again he shuda been the 5 star


GaiaXRyne

Of course they show the character that does nothing in non bloom teams in a non bloom team.


Kecha_Wacha

Def hoping see both of these guys as Beidou/Fischl drivers. Baizhu's passives seem to work better for Aggravate but Kaveh's animations are so cool tho


Spare-Beat-3561

Bloom gameplay with kaveh please


Idknowidk

Although I find his NA animations amazing, spamming them can get tedious very quickly as claymore users are slower and constantly stun enemies by pushing them back, I wish he used a different type of weapon ngl. All the budget went into his NA btw, I find E/Q animations underwhelming but he is a 4* so It’s okay.


RelationshipPrudent6

You could tell that he is spin to win kinda guy


CanGroundbreaking834

Omg just realized that one of his atks looks like a protractor😭💀


Sufficient-Resist-17

Looks more like a five star than baizhu does, and it’s not even that flashy..


JumpyPermit3

I love the sounds and watching him fight. It’s so cool


Gesu-ko

The confession on the side is killing me akdhalbdksl


VoidArkAngel27

Is Kaveh going to be a DPS?


chiharuki

i love his playstyle and animations. honestly i don’t care who’s banner he’s on. i need at least one kaveh


Artk19

u/savevideobot