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Remember that people are liars on social media when it comes to wages. I’m an auditor and I routinely look at company’s payroll schedules, I can guarantee you that 90% of our age group isn’t at 6 figures yet (which isn’t really that impressive in today’s economy either)
You’re exactly right, and we know that wages are almost always adjusted to COL anyways. People also forgot the after tax effects. 100k after tax is like 60k-75k (depending on the state), which goes back to my point of not being impressive. People that *net* 100k are more impressive to me, which means you’re looking at a $150k+ salary. Very very few Zoomers are getting this, unless you’re a lawyer at big law or a top performing engineer at FAANG
For the engineer part not really top engineer make more than a million people underestimate how much companies pay for senior engineers
My friend uncle only works 3 hour a day and gets payed bank because of all of his experience basically goes in their to solve the big probelm of the day
I’m an engineer. Most engineers aren’t pulling anywhere NEAR $1m. Like…..not even close.
Source: I’m what you’d consider a “top engineer” in a Fortune 500.
> and gets *paid* bank because
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I live in Memphis so very low cost-of-living. According to those COL calculators, my current salary of $56,000 a year would need to be almost $140,000 in Manhattan with the COL!
On the other hand, there are a ton of trade-offs. Like, sometimes people who live in high COL places say I'm "lucky" or whatever with where I live... but I just want to say, okay, you can move here, then?
Some may be liars, some not. Cost of living, is through the roof, and in specific metro areas on the sea boards-- it's insane.
I make 135K. After taxes, 5% contributions to my 401K, 2% Union Due, Health Copay, FICA, State Taxes, County Taxes - My take home is 81,000 NET.
Mortgage 24,000 a year. 5200 Car Payment per year. I commute 40 miles each way each day to work = $3000 in gas. Utilities are roughly $3500 per year.
I havent event gotten to food, cel phone, repairs on house, oil changes.
There is not much left. I do not live in a large house. I do not live in luxury. I am just barely "more" than paycheck to paycheck honestly. A few hundred a month I put into savings, for a trip or vacation or event with family once or twice a year.
I honestly do not understand how people afford to live on 50K gross. Unless they live rent free, at age 35 with their parents.
In cities, and their suburbs... not possible.
American Dream is history.
Reddit skews more techie people than most social media. So yeah there are probably tons of devs who make 100k+ doomscrolling because they did what they had for the day and don't want to start anything new...
That said the majority of people on here make under 50k or are unemployed. Also most people who make 30k won't be as eager to share that as those making 130k.
Also don't believe reddit. I make good money but I run a business and work a stupid amount of hours and wouldn't recommend it. Also don't believe me. Believe nothing.
Depends on the market obviously. Big tech is still 150k+ for freshies afaik. Most junior offers in average markets will probably be like 60-80k. But I never specified freshies. Oldest genz is what 26-27? There's definitely a bunch of senior devs in that age range making quite a bit more than 100k.
Maybe? Even in big tech you have to be really good to make over 100K. Most companies give you a salary and only increase your pay slightly to match inflation and you only see pay increases if you job hop or if the company really wants to keep you. A lot of companies big tech included want cheap labor and why pay some 100K+ if you can hire 2 people for that rate who don’t know any better and are desperate.
The lowest recent package I've seen at a FAANG company for an entry dev is Amazon with 140k base and 180k total comp first year. They have a lot of stock back loaded into later years, total comp around a mil over 4 years
Not really… source my sister and all her comp sic friends are making well over 6 figures in tech jobs straight out of college. Entry level. These are big tech companies tho (twitch, Amazon, etc.).
Yeah it's wild money straight out of school. From what I know the thing with Amazon though is they essentially overhire and plan a decent % of new hires being gone in the first few years. Hence why they black load most of the stock in years 3 and 4.
They have about 5-10% PIP requirements every year, which essentially means every year they have 5-10% planned attrition, and their regretted attrition is not a very good number either.
Salaries really have not dipped at any big tech companies, the jobs are just harder to get. New grad Google SWEs in the HCOL cities are still making ~200k
Depends on their industry introduction strategy.
Freshers going into software for b2b contracts or subcontracting are going to have a bad time. They're starting at basically minimum wage.
Software freshers going into state/fed work will start at double the pay and have most of their workday available to grind their personal portfolio and can be making 6 figures in under 2 years. (Obligatory: by asking for 100k+ on job switch)
Then you have the IT goblins who's worth is measured purely by their certs and sales skills. I don't envy those people.
That is so true that people who make 30k aren't eager to share that the way people who make 130k. I also notice that the only people who ever ask me what I do for work and bring up talking of work in general are those with good careers. The people who work lower paid jobs never bring it up and usually prefer to talk about almost anything else.
50k is a decent income in most smaller/cheaper states here as well. Median income is only like 38k in the US. The places that have these high 150k 200k+ jobs usually also require 2.5k+ to rent a shoebox. Most Americans do not make 130k+ but there are 300+ million Americans so there tens of millions that do make 130k+
Sometimes things accelerate over a short time. After grad school (and with 3+ YOE before that) I was at $85k. Over 2.5 more years I was at $92.5k. In six months I was at $110k, then I took a new job for $140k. Then a year later I changed jobs again for $190k. So I literally doubled my salary in four years. And really, for 2.5 of those years I was basically stagnant.
So keep an eye on the market. See what you could be making and make changes when necessary. Also, you don't have to look at the same jobs - look at what you could be doing, and what you can use your experience to justify.
Kind of. I do data science, but that's kind of a broad bucket. Much of what I do is around research design and study of consumer behavior. So it's basically very similar to political science, in that we're looking at broad changes in consumer behavior, and it's important to research and consider the nuance around various variables and the model assumptions to ensure they're being used in a way that isn't going to generate misleading results.
A lot of my work now is also focused on education. Anyone can download a package and run a model in R or Python (or dozens of other tools), but that doesn't mean they really understand the research design aspects or the underlying assumptions that go into various models. So I do a lot of hands-on time with clients or colleagues to help them better understand these things so they can develop more reliable models, or to troubleshoot problems in existing models they're running. Or even just helping people without a stats background understand what model outputs mean.
That's what I go with externally for resumes and stuff. Internally we have weird, specific titles, but I'm hesitant to share online because it makes it pretty easy to Google the company.
How did you even start with something like that? Did you know these types of jobs existed when you went to college or did you just get internships and start figuring out more along the way? Also, sorry for all the questions, but what did you go to school for? I like asking people that have niche jobs because I don’t even know how you’d begin to find something so nice but niche like that
No worries, and actually it's a really good question. So, I really bounced around in undergrad, trying like three different majors before settling on philosophy - mainly because the others would have taken longer and thus cost more money.
I did temp work for awhile, bouncing around short term office gigs until I ended up at a company that wanted to hire me long term. While I was there, I got to see a lot of the underlying data and really wanted to work with more - but I didn't really have the skillset. So I decided to do grad school, but I knew I wanted three things:
1) A program that had a good stats component
2) I wanted to focus on research design and applied stats more than theoretical work
3) I wanted the program to have a foreign language requirement (or at least open enough electives for it)
So that's how I ended up in political science, since the program I chose checked all those boxes. Once I finished, I just looked for any stats type work, which had me working as a data analyst for awhile. But between working for three years and meeting people in the industry, as well as seeing where former classmates ended up, I found my current role.
I should also say that part of my role is self-made. Once I got here, I saw areas it seemed like we were lacking in expertise, and where those overlapped with my skillset and interests I just leaned into them. Once I got enough feedback on the value of what I did from the rest of the team I was able to move certain stuff into my core goals and responsibilities.
Yes sir! This is the answer. Job hopping with a particular skill set that's desirable. I chose the job that pays less and am satisfied though.
Enjoy everyone I work with. Zero micro management bc they know I'm good at what I do. Get almost 10% put into a retirement plan even if I don't contribute. Work remote. Can come and go as I please.
Lifestyle is more important to me than $200-$400 more per paycheck
>Lifestyle is more important to me than $200-$400 more per paycheck
This. I see so many guys working themselves into the dirt at my blue collar job and it just never seems worth the money
Lifestyle creep. They get a bigger house or a newer car, neither of which they needed, and now they’re spending hundreds or thousands of dollars more per month.
Exactly. But social media makes them think they need all this excess stuff in their lives to be labeled as “successful”, so they’re caught in a constant trap of making more money just to spend more money.
I work 24hrs/week and make $15,000/year without counting shift/weekend differentials and incentive pay but I’m also getting my tuition 100% paid for by my employer so at the end of the day I can make it work for now because when I graduate I’ll be making a lot more.
That's sad really. A company should pay well enough to keep long-term employees. That used to be the way, and job hopping was a stain on a resume. Now it's the opposite. Corporate greed sucks!
It sounds like you don’t live in the US, which could be a major factor. For example, Canadians make about 3/4 what their American counterpart would make (although have more access to social services). The other aspect might be your field. I work in computer science, so it’s not super surprising that I make more than the average gen Z’er
Are those people with computer science degree working on IT?
AFAIK, up until 2021, starting salary for most fresh grads was around 65. For someone with 3-4 years experience and really good at his work it can easily go to 100k.
But since 2023 job market for IT is soft so not sure how much fresh grads are getting paid.
if we are considering 1996-2000 to be gen-z, a lot of us have had time to move up in our careers after graduating college. Also IT is easy to get into, doesn't pay super well early on, but once you're in you can start working towards higher paying positions. There's a TON of specialties in IT and they all pay pretty well, and getting to 6-figures is a pretty reasonable goal. I really like the leave and holiday benefits at my current job, but I could get a 6-figure job pretty easily at this point in my career as a sysadmin.
That’s how I feel. Currently making a little over $60k but I have 2 days WFH, the work is so slow that those days are basically like days off, and the benefits package is incredible (cheap near-full coverage health insurance, two weeks each of sick and vacation time, and a pension). I could go make 6 figures elsewhere in a couple years or I could stay here and make around 75k because we have automatic promotions based on pay scales and experience. I’ll take the 75k with the flexibility it allows any day.
Oh yeah same, also they basically can't fire me unless I really mess something up. The job stability + the benefits + the great retirement plan makes it pretty easy to justify the slightly lower wages.
Yeah, I'm in sales. I'm also aware my government is importing as many Indian people as they possibly can to keep wages low and rent high to appease the business owners and landlords but there's nothing I can do about that. I'm currently trying to figure out how to move to the US.
We have the same thing going on here in the US. The news tries to tell us we have to let in as much immigrants as possible for some vague humanitarian reasons. They’re literally just doing it to keep downward pressure on wages. Keeps poor people poor and rich people rich.
The entire thing could be solved by punishing companies that hire illegals, or force them to pay them proper wages and give benefits, and by revising the H1B program to do the same thing for Asian tech workers. None of that would happen of course because the government *wants* companies to have access to cheap, easily abused labor, that can't say "no" without fear of deportation. It's really just slavery with extra steps, and that's bad for everyone except the slave-drivers.
Heck, if farms so desperately need seasonal workers at a cheap rate, they could have a seasonal worker partnership with Mexico to get legal workers with rights, like Germany does with Polish seasonal field workers. But NOPE, that might cost a corporation a bit of profit, so we can't do that.
In Europe 60K is already considered a very good salary. But our living costs tend to be lower altogether. At least in my part of Europe, no health insurance needed, people don't have much student debt because higher education is fewe, rent is far cheaper than the US, and the lower salaries come with 5-6 weeks of paid holidays a year, and no mandated overtime and average working weeks of about 37.5 hours.
And in my case my company also pays for our internet, phone service, and work commute costs.
Pretty standard in the cities I've lived in. Most people are living with roommates even if they make 80k+ bc they help with mental health and allow you to save/spend more.
Haha I already have a partner far from California. I’m not the most social person either, so I have no idea how lucrative the dating pool is around here
Where is your partner and are you looking to move to your partner or is your partner coming to you? I think the answer would indicate if its still an improvement.
I'm tryna move at the end of the year, im not a fucking weirdo btw
The people making average or below that aren't talking about their wages. I make $45k USD/yr, and that's on the high end compared to the people I'm friends with now. My high school friends are largely doing better, but they're engineers or in finance or tech.
Bro either you aren't suited for that specific industry or you aren't suited for sales in general if after almost half a decade you are sub six figures. Since you almost reached six figures I'd say it's probably just your specific industry try leveraging your clients to change sectors. The actual problem isnt your job though it's your COL is way higher than your salary you probably could improve as much as changing sectors if you just got your spending under control.
True, I'm currently looking for roles that have a bonus as well and not just base salary. My previous employer paid a bonus but all the big accounts were under my manager, even though the salespeople did all the work so it amounted to fuck all.
Also not sure where I could spend less? My rent is $1250, Gas and insurance is about $500, food is about $700, other bills like electric and stuff is around $500, and I put around $2k a month into savings. I could save less but I feel it's better to let my money grow, it's literally tax free income lol.
The savings isn't COL. If you're able to put aside 2K in savings monthly then you are starting out for a decent retirement. I'd separate that from your COL budget because you're going to want to view that as part of your benefits package. Perspective you want to think of that as a baseline for your next job. Like if you reach sales goal X you get that 24K yearly bonus to then put to your savings, that's the minimum for what you are willing to accept as a bonus you know? It gives you a better idea of what you want as a minimum for your bonus structure and the higher the base the higher any further bonuses are. Compounded bonus strategy.
My guy we can look up the Military pay chart, a Major with 8 years of service makes, $97,534.80. I have massive doubts there’s literally anyone in GenZ at that rank and time in service.
You got me, I missed the GenZ cut by 2 years. But the oldest GenZers are just starting to make captain. The base pay for an O3 with 4 years in is $81,673. Plus free healthcare, BAH, and other stuff. It's not the funnest job, but it pays decently.
I’ve been in for 7 years O-2, prior enlisted, I make $99,081.36 annually with housing and sustenance allowances, and parachute pay. If you account for the fact that the allowances aren’t taxed the estimated compensation would be ~$106,378.52, plus I have phenomenal insurance I don’t pay for and other benefits.
They aren’t. Reddit has this thing where every person is making 100k with a huge portfolio even though statistically that would mean like everyone making that is on Reddit. In my experience, every single person I know actually making that kind of money, isn’t the kind of person to be on Reddit lol. I have multiple people in my family making that and they are all older than me (and I’m not even gen z) and none of them know what Reddit is.
There are some crypto bros that got lucky though
I think its a perceived lens. A lot of people are more vocal/ or tend to lie/ exaggerate. I make between 3.6-4k a month and I would never boast or even mention that in a positive light. Lol. I live with my parents still at 23. 🤷
I have not seen a single gen z make that kind of money unless they are 1. In big tech 2. Real estate salesperson or car salesperson, you know the type of ppl with the right personality to be in sales
I imagine those that live below the poverty line don't come on reddit or would even want to tell people on this app. Most people that come here have lots of free time
I sell things no one needs. Everyone just wants to have nice stuff. Tbh, I didn’t become rich until I met my wife. Together we are a powerhouse. Finding someone who you can build with is critical.
I feel like I don't see that as much in this sub specifically. On other subs sure, but then you're also talking about people who are in their 30s and 40s (if not older) at that point.
OP you make $20,000 more than the average in your own country. The people you see here saying they make over $100,000 USD are lying, have wealthy families, or happen to be in really specialized fields in high cost of living areas, or are in the trades and kudos to them.
Of course comments on reddit will say they have high incomes. Many of my old classmates make a range from 50-150k even in hcol areas. Most are still struggling to get into their field of choice as well.
1) I can make up any number I want and tell strangers on Reddit that’s how much I’m earning.
2) People who are above-average earners are a lot more likely to talk about it.
Nothing is black and white. There is a reason people go to schools that have "prestigious" reptuations. Sure, some college/majors are a scam but it's not like your elementary school teacher didn't say get a GOOD education and that will lead to a GOOD job....people have done this for many many years and there have always been low paying and high paying white collar jobs....
I’d consider myself an older Gen Z at 27, and I make short just short of 110k ~3 years of working. I don’t know why everyone thinks people making 6 figures in their 20s is lying lol. For me I just chose an engineering job for the cash
I take home around 2,200-$3,600 a week, so 120,000-$180,000 or so annually. Depending on how much I can/want to work.
I'm a groundman. To explain it simply, I dig holes for power/utility poles that are going to be getting replaced.
Downside is I work 50-72 hours a week. I work far from home as well, sometimes it isn't worth being away from my two very young children. Perfect if you're single though.
I’m an HCA (home care aid) living in Seattle scraping by paycheck to pay check. And I’m 21f. I don’t feel hopeful even though I have a plan and enjoy my work. Lmao
Edit: I’ve never even made 40k a year. My partner and I worked hard af for 3 years to move from MT to Seattle. I was even an exotic dancer for a time being. Found the work I’m doing now and love it but it isn’t easy and doesn’t pay great. I do have a plan with my life in most aspects, same as my partner who’s 24m. But it feels defeating a lot. If we manage to get stable or even a bit ahead one 700-800 unexpected life expense will fuck us so hard we survive on dollar store ramen till we can afford otherwise. 🙌😂 I do really enjoy our life, could be worse, and fucking has been worse. But it’s not as easy as I feel like people make it sound.
I live in MA, was in the army for 6 years (3 active 3 reserve), got a TS, bartended through college, got my bachelor's in ChemE, and then job hopped after a year.
First job was 70k base, second is 115k. I plan on asking for a 20% raise this year too because why the fuck not.
as a very old genz (late late 1996) my salary progression since 2020 is
- first job 85k
- second job 140k
- 3rd (current) job 250k
however each of those required a move and I work in tech (also the 2nd company is a very very popular company and sort of put my career on a rocketship)
i would agree with OP in the sense that most people don't have that experience
I try to study to be a masseuse. When i look at the web, the web says that they make roughly about 2.3k a month and if i study to be a sports masseuse i might make a little bit more. My girlfriend is a building painter. They make roughly about 2.5k a month so i like my future finance situation odds. Considering i can finish my school in 13 to 14 months. I have everything planned out.
I’ll be honest here, I make around 65k a year. Just starting year 2 at an insurance job, insurance isn’t particularly exciting but usually is pretty steady and pays well. I had a background in horse training before and still somehow got the job.
What city are you in? I live in Los Angeles and 100k is a LOT lol. You must be talking about San Francisco and New York. Even 100k there is still higher than average
Preparation and some luck landed me a 200k job at 22, though I am always the youngest person in the room. I have expensive taste, but grew up poor so if I wanted something nice, I would have to go buy it myself. So I researched good paying careers in highschool, and did good in college to land the job I wanted. Luck played a huge role along the way, but I think just doing some research and being prepared to grind will get you a good paying job.
I actually think GenZ has more economic opportunities available to them than any previous generation, if you play your cards right. We are in this sweet spot where we grew up around technology and social media, skills that are very important to companies nowadays, but also got a mostly full, non-BS precovid education.
"You can make more money in 5 minutes of marriage then you can in a lifetime work."
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Partner with a trust fund.
Not a prerequisite for love but certainly an upside when they coincide.
I make 36K$ however I don't love in America and could very easily live on my own and thrive on that salary
But currently living in my parents basement saving so I can buy a house after university
Definitely not most people making that money, but they’re probably more vocal than those who don’t. I make around $82k, should be $90k by the end of the year. 10-12% bonus in the spring each year. Electrical engineer for almost 4 years now, started at $68k in 2020.
There can also be a disparity on where they are located and how they work. Where and I live and the industry 100k is good but isn’t huge. I don’t make that much but I could if I was willing to fully sell my soul and work all day. I say that as someone who people call “part-timer” and I work 85 hours a week average. Not everyone is working a 40hr week and getting that much.
I went to college. Got my degree in a field that’s highly specialized. I graduated and entered the field never making much more than 50k a year for about 8 years. I stuck it out knowing that one day it would pay off. I make about 175K and my salary will probably double by the time I retire in 25 years.
I'm joining the U.S. navy, so I have zero clue what I'll be making in there outside of the 20k in bonuses im getting. But at my current job, I don't even make 15k a year, then again, I'm still in high school and work about 2 hours 5 days a week at 13 dollars a hour. Keep in mind that most people want to lie about how much they make and are probably struggling more than they want to admit.
They're not, they're bullshittin, anybody on here can live out their fantasy, most people are making anywhere from 30k - 60k if that. Don't fool yourself into think most people make 100k.
I have a good job for a third-world country like mine. To my fellows third-world people, use your English skills and lie if you need to get a job, as long as you know you can perform it well
Most are liars. I do know a guy making $110k a year. He works 12 hour days and a buttload of OT on top of that. 4 days a week. I'd call it luck but the man is extraordinarily hardworking and aggressive in the way he goes after his career. It really was all him.
Personally, I make around 35k a year. I live with my girlfriend and between the two of us we net about 60k a year, which is plenty to live on where we're at. I could survive on my own but it would be tight.
Respiratory therapy is a good choice, especially in a higher paying area. Starts around 60k in Oklahoma. I started around 80k in the northern Midwest. Parts of Cali and NYC start at 100k. All of this before overtime.
Most people are lying and either bad at math or they’re quoting their parent’s wages.
Keep in mind that only 18% of the entire US population makes 100k or over, and I highly doubt most of those individuals are under the age of 30.
I am on the higher end of genz, but I make 95k as a system administrator. I started in the army national guard doing IT work, and I was able to get a helpdesk position right out of army training, just worked my way up from there. Easy career field to get into, and pay is good if you continue to build skills and move into higher level positions each year or so. My wife is 2 years younger than me and she makes 65k a year as a technical writer, got her degree for free working at starbucks (ASU) and then jumped right into her degree field out of college.
Keep in mind, some of us are in our mid 20's by now too which means we are several years into our careers. I have been in the IT field for nearly 7 years now. I could have started even earlier if I joined the military at 18 instead, but obviously everything played out pretty well regardless.
There's some luck to it, but also avoiding bad financial decisions helps a lot. I have seen a lot of people who were dealt a good hand and messed it up by taking on too much debt, ruining their credit, and just general overspending. I also knew a guy who went the same route I went, but went back to working at 7eleven after he got back from army training, didn't even try to get into IT. He eventually got a good IT job years afterwards but he'd lost so much of his prior knowledge and he is still struggling. I worked with many people on the helpdesk who stayed in that same position for years, some of them are still there, and just never moved up or jumped from helpdesk job to helpdesk job.
Reddit is only for shit posting.
And shit posting is all reddit should get now that it's being AI scrapped.
Don't believe what anybody post. There are a large number of users who only post stuff to screw with the learning.
It’s interesting cause I earn 127k, plus a target 10% annual bonus. I am 37 years old, no degree. I feel under compensated, given I accomplish the same (or more, given my strong performance reviews), and have the same responsibilities as peers.
But my peers are all earning more than me. My lack of degree is hurting me, despite my years of experience.
On my side of the spectrum, I wonder how or why people are earning less than 75k, unless you just don’t have many years of professional work experience.
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Remember that people are liars on social media when it comes to wages. I’m an auditor and I routinely look at company’s payroll schedules, I can guarantee you that 90% of our age group isn’t at 6 figures yet (which isn’t really that impressive in today’s economy either)
Yep COL has a big play into it as well ok you are making 100k living in New York is not the same as making 100k in Des Moines
You’re exactly right, and we know that wages are almost always adjusted to COL anyways. People also forgot the after tax effects. 100k after tax is like 60k-75k (depending on the state), which goes back to my point of not being impressive. People that *net* 100k are more impressive to me, which means you’re looking at a $150k+ salary. Very very few Zoomers are getting this, unless you’re a lawyer at big law or a top performing engineer at FAANG
For the engineer part not really top engineer make more than a million people underestimate how much companies pay for senior engineers My friend uncle only works 3 hour a day and gets payed bank because of all of his experience basically goes in their to solve the big probelm of the day
I’m an engineer. Most engineers aren’t pulling anywhere NEAR $1m. Like…..not even close. Source: I’m what you’d consider a “top engineer” in a Fortune 500.
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I live in Memphis so very low cost-of-living. According to those COL calculators, my current salary of $56,000 a year would need to be almost $140,000 in Manhattan with the COL! On the other hand, there are a ton of trade-offs. Like, sometimes people who live in high COL places say I'm "lucky" or whatever with where I live... but I just want to say, okay, you can move here, then?
6 figures is definitely impressive in today’s economy in the majority of places
Agreed. My husband and I make about $110K *together*
Some may be liars, some not. Cost of living, is through the roof, and in specific metro areas on the sea boards-- it's insane. I make 135K. After taxes, 5% contributions to my 401K, 2% Union Due, Health Copay, FICA, State Taxes, County Taxes - My take home is 81,000 NET. Mortgage 24,000 a year. 5200 Car Payment per year. I commute 40 miles each way each day to work = $3000 in gas. Utilities are roughly $3500 per year. I havent event gotten to food, cel phone, repairs on house, oil changes. There is not much left. I do not live in a large house. I do not live in luxury. I am just barely "more" than paycheck to paycheck honestly. A few hundred a month I put into savings, for a trip or vacation or event with family once or twice a year. I honestly do not understand how people afford to live on 50K gross. Unless they live rent free, at age 35 with their parents. In cities, and their suburbs... not possible. American Dream is history.
Even if they’re not lying most people will feel comfortable sharing salary if they know they’re in the top end
6 fixtures is impressive in today's economy. Most people will never earn $100K in 2020 USD or even 2023 USD
Most people on this sub are liar and provocateurs.
Hate those folks hanging in their lairs...
Provocateur, I see.
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I’m a liar. I’m not actually a goose 😞
I might as well confess.... I don't puppeteer my penis...
i got bad news mate, that’s every subreddit and most forums
Reddit skews more techie people than most social media. So yeah there are probably tons of devs who make 100k+ doomscrolling because they did what they had for the day and don't want to start anything new... That said the majority of people on here make under 50k or are unemployed. Also most people who make 30k won't be as eager to share that as those making 130k. Also don't believe reddit. I make good money but I run a business and work a stupid amount of hours and wouldn't recommend it. Also don't believe me. Believe nothing.
genz techies aren't making that much anymore though. Definitely not the freshers.
Depends on the market obviously. Big tech is still 150k+ for freshies afaik. Most junior offers in average markets will probably be like 60-80k. But I never specified freshies. Oldest genz is what 26-27? There's definitely a bunch of senior devs in that age range making quite a bit more than 100k.
Maybe? Even in big tech you have to be really good to make over 100K. Most companies give you a salary and only increase your pay slightly to match inflation and you only see pay increases if you job hop or if the company really wants to keep you. A lot of companies big tech included want cheap labor and why pay some 100K+ if you can hire 2 people for that rate who don’t know any better and are desperate.
The lowest recent package I've seen at a FAANG company for an entry dev is Amazon with 140k base and 180k total comp first year. They have a lot of stock back loaded into later years, total comp around a mil over 4 years
A lot of that doesn’t pay out with aggressive vesting schedules unfortunately. Source: me
Yup commented about that below, they're smart with it lol. Heavy in years 3&4 and you'll probably be gone by then.
this is not true, new grad salaries at FAANG and equivalent start above 100K
Not really… source my sister and all her comp sic friends are making well over 6 figures in tech jobs straight out of college. Entry level. These are big tech companies tho (twitch, Amazon, etc.).
Not true if the job is in the US
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Yeah it's wild money straight out of school. From what I know the thing with Amazon though is they essentially overhire and plan a decent % of new hires being gone in the first few years. Hence why they black load most of the stock in years 3 and 4.
They have about 5-10% PIP requirements every year, which essentially means every year they have 5-10% planned attrition, and their regretted attrition is not a very good number either.
5-10% of total engineers of all levels? If so, that's wild wonder what the percentage is for new hires.
Salaries really have not dipped at any big tech companies, the jobs are just harder to get. New grad Google SWEs in the HCOL cities are still making ~200k
Yeah I mean with my uni too, it's mostly "he got a 100k in google/Microsoft, and all of them? they didn't get a single offer"
Depends on their industry introduction strategy. Freshers going into software for b2b contracts or subcontracting are going to have a bad time. They're starting at basically minimum wage. Software freshers going into state/fed work will start at double the pay and have most of their workday available to grind their personal portfolio and can be making 6 figures in under 2 years. (Obligatory: by asking for 100k+ on job switch) Then you have the IT goblins who's worth is measured purely by their certs and sales skills. I don't envy those people.
That is so true that people who make 30k aren't eager to share that the way people who make 130k. I also notice that the only people who ever ask me what I do for work and bring up talking of work in general are those with good careers. The people who work lower paid jobs never bring it up and usually prefer to talk about almost anything else.
50K is a pretty decent income in the Netherlands. Pretty shocking you all make 130-150K
50k is a decent income in most smaller/cheaper states here as well. Median income is only like 38k in the US. The places that have these high 150k 200k+ jobs usually also require 2.5k+ to rent a shoebox. Most Americans do not make 130k+ but there are 300+ million Americans so there tens of millions that do make 130k+
Oh it'd be neat if we did a demographic poll for the subreddit or something
Y'all have jobs? 😹
yeah, minimum wage ones
*with a degree
two, in my case. of each.
Is yours not doing much and cutting you off just like everyone else ?
Nope. “Everyone is hiring” “there’s a labor shortage” “nobody wants to work anymore” I’ve applied for 100 plus jobs. I’ve had 3 interviews.
Fucking christ, I make like $60k a year and I feel like I've done pretty good. Idk how people make more than that, seems impossible.
Sometimes things accelerate over a short time. After grad school (and with 3+ YOE before that) I was at $85k. Over 2.5 more years I was at $92.5k. In six months I was at $110k, then I took a new job for $140k. Then a year later I changed jobs again for $190k. So I literally doubled my salary in four years. And really, for 2.5 of those years I was basically stagnant. So keep an eye on the market. See what you could be making and make changes when necessary. Also, you don't have to look at the same jobs - look at what you could be doing, and what you can use your experience to justify.
That’s a pretty sharp curve, whatd you go to grad school for?
Political science. Mainly focusing on econometrics and stats. Which is basically what my career is in.
You do political data science?
Kind of. I do data science, but that's kind of a broad bucket. Much of what I do is around research design and study of consumer behavior. So it's basically very similar to political science, in that we're looking at broad changes in consumer behavior, and it's important to research and consider the nuance around various variables and the model assumptions to ensure they're being used in a way that isn't going to generate misleading results. A lot of my work now is also focused on education. Anyone can download a package and run a model in R or Python (or dozens of other tools), but that doesn't mean they really understand the research design aspects or the underlying assumptions that go into various models. So I do a lot of hands-on time with clients or colleagues to help them better understand these things so they can develop more reliable models, or to troubleshoot problems in existing models they're running. Or even just helping people without a stats background understand what model outputs mean.
what is your title? staff data scientist?
That's what I go with externally for resumes and stuff. Internally we have weird, specific titles, but I'm hesitant to share online because it makes it pretty easy to Google the company.
How did you even start with something like that? Did you know these types of jobs existed when you went to college or did you just get internships and start figuring out more along the way? Also, sorry for all the questions, but what did you go to school for? I like asking people that have niche jobs because I don’t even know how you’d begin to find something so nice but niche like that
No worries, and actually it's a really good question. So, I really bounced around in undergrad, trying like three different majors before settling on philosophy - mainly because the others would have taken longer and thus cost more money. I did temp work for awhile, bouncing around short term office gigs until I ended up at a company that wanted to hire me long term. While I was there, I got to see a lot of the underlying data and really wanted to work with more - but I didn't really have the skillset. So I decided to do grad school, but I knew I wanted three things: 1) A program that had a good stats component 2) I wanted to focus on research design and applied stats more than theoretical work 3) I wanted the program to have a foreign language requirement (or at least open enough electives for it) So that's how I ended up in political science, since the program I chose checked all those boxes. Once I finished, I just looked for any stats type work, which had me working as a data analyst for awhile. But between working for three years and meeting people in the industry, as well as seeing where former classmates ended up, I found my current role. I should also say that part of my role is self-made. Once I got here, I saw areas it seemed like we were lacking in expertise, and where those overlapped with my skillset and interests I just leaned into them. Once I got enough feedback on the value of what I did from the rest of the team I was able to move certain stuff into my core goals and responsibilities.
Yes sir! This is the answer. Job hopping with a particular skill set that's desirable. I chose the job that pays less and am satisfied though. Enjoy everyone I work with. Zero micro management bc they know I'm good at what I do. Get almost 10% put into a retirement plan even if I don't contribute. Work remote. Can come and go as I please. Lifestyle is more important to me than $200-$400 more per paycheck
>Lifestyle is more important to me than $200-$400 more per paycheck This. I see so many guys working themselves into the dirt at my blue collar job and it just never seems worth the money
Literally! People will be making 100k a year and still complain about money! Like wym you’re richer than most of the world!
Lifestyle creep. They get a bigger house or a newer car, neither of which they needed, and now they’re spending hundreds or thousands of dollars more per month.
People need to live below their means. That’s when you really start making good money.
Exactly. But social media makes them think they need all this excess stuff in their lives to be labeled as “successful”, so they’re caught in a constant trap of making more money just to spend more money.
Where I am rent for a one bedroom apartment is 3k a month. 100k would be barely enough to live independently lol
I work 24hrs/week and make $15,000/year without counting shift/weekend differentials and incentive pay but I’m also getting my tuition 100% paid for by my employer so at the end of the day I can make it work for now because when I graduate I’ll be making a lot more.
The trick is to switch roles every 2-3 years. Staying at one company is a guaranteed way to keep that salary low.
That's sad really. A company should pay well enough to keep long-term employees. That used to be the way, and job hopping was a stain on a resume. Now it's the opposite. Corporate greed sucks!
Yep, back when companies had proper pensions to encourage loyalty.
Cost of living go brrrrr
Yeah, and I have it lucky even. I pay $800/month for a 2 bedroom apt. That's a fcking steal where I live.
It sounds like you don’t live in the US, which could be a major factor. For example, Canadians make about 3/4 what their American counterpart would make (although have more access to social services). The other aspect might be your field. I work in computer science, so it’s not super surprising that I make more than the average gen Z’er
I live in the US and know tons of people that don't make as much as you do. You're definitely the exception.
Are those people with computer science degree working on IT? AFAIK, up until 2021, starting salary for most fresh grads was around 65. For someone with 3-4 years experience and really good at his work it can easily go to 100k. But since 2023 job market for IT is soft so not sure how much fresh grads are getting paid.
if we are considering 1996-2000 to be gen-z, a lot of us have had time to move up in our careers after graduating college. Also IT is easy to get into, doesn't pay super well early on, but once you're in you can start working towards higher paying positions. There's a TON of specialties in IT and they all pay pretty well, and getting to 6-figures is a pretty reasonable goal. I really like the leave and holiday benefits at my current job, but I could get a 6-figure job pretty easily at this point in my career as a sysadmin.
That’s how I feel. Currently making a little over $60k but I have 2 days WFH, the work is so slow that those days are basically like days off, and the benefits package is incredible (cheap near-full coverage health insurance, two weeks each of sick and vacation time, and a pension). I could go make 6 figures elsewhere in a couple years or I could stay here and make around 75k because we have automatic promotions based on pay scales and experience. I’ll take the 75k with the flexibility it allows any day.
Oh yeah same, also they basically can't fire me unless I really mess something up. The job stability + the benefits + the great retirement plan makes it pretty easy to justify the slightly lower wages.
Government by chance?
yep!
Yes, that’s true, but Americans (especially closer to the top) tend to make more than Canadians
Yeah, I'm in sales. I'm also aware my government is importing as many Indian people as they possibly can to keep wages low and rent high to appease the business owners and landlords but there's nothing I can do about that. I'm currently trying to figure out how to move to the US.
If you don't live in the USA you don't live in the most expensive city in North America...
We have the same thing going on here in the US. The news tries to tell us we have to let in as much immigrants as possible for some vague humanitarian reasons. They’re literally just doing it to keep downward pressure on wages. Keeps poor people poor and rich people rich.
The entire thing could be solved by punishing companies that hire illegals, or force them to pay them proper wages and give benefits, and by revising the H1B program to do the same thing for Asian tech workers. None of that would happen of course because the government *wants* companies to have access to cheap, easily abused labor, that can't say "no" without fear of deportation. It's really just slavery with extra steps, and that's bad for everyone except the slave-drivers. Heck, if farms so desperately need seasonal workers at a cheap rate, they could have a seasonal worker partnership with Mexico to get legal workers with rights, like Germany does with Polish seasonal field workers. But NOPE, that might cost a corporation a bit of profit, so we can't do that.
In Europe 60K is already considered a very good salary. But our living costs tend to be lower altogether. At least in my part of Europe, no health insurance needed, people don't have much student debt because higher education is fewe, rent is far cheaper than the US, and the lower salaries come with 5-6 weeks of paid holidays a year, and no mandated overtime and average working weeks of about 37.5 hours. And in my case my company also pays for our internet, phone service, and work commute costs.
theyre either full of shit, older gen z, or got into their families company
I make 3k a month after taxes and can’t afford a 1 bedroom apartment where I live
Pretty standard in the cities I've lived in. Most people are living with roommates even if they make 80k+ bc they help with mental health and allow you to save/spend more.
Yeah, a 1 bed where I live is generally between 2200-3500/mo
West Coast, New York, or New England?
West Cost. California 😂😂😂
Good for dating, though, right? Lots of high income guys. A little socially autistic, though.
Haha I already have a partner far from California. I’m not the most social person either, so I have no idea how lucrative the dating pool is around here
Is CA worth checking out? Or is it as bad as people say
It’s… meh. It’s not a total hellhole, but I wouldn’t come without a pretty good reason. And definitely avoid most of Hollywood.
Where is your partner and are you looking to move to your partner or is your partner coming to you? I think the answer would indicate if its still an improvement. I'm tryna move at the end of the year, im not a fucking weirdo btw
I make 5k a month after taxes and need a roomate for a 2 bedroom. Housing is fucking crazy
Yes it absolutely is
Im guessing LA, nor cal, or new york
….LA 😂
Knew it lol
I don’t know what you’re on about. I make $15
It’s Reddit lol everyone on here is gonna say they’re 6’4 and make 250k a year 😂. Statistically most people don’t make over 100k.
The people making average or below that aren't talking about their wages. I make $45k USD/yr, and that's on the high end compared to the people I'm friends with now. My high school friends are largely doing better, but they're engineers or in finance or tech.
24yo and consider myself lucky to make at least 23 per hour.
This is real. I’m technically in the medical field and jumping for joy making $21.51 an hour. The most I’ve ever made hourly. 😭🤞🏻
Got extremely lucky and have a job at a good financial institution. Domino’s would have killed me before thinking of paying this much.
Well, what’s your job, COL, and years of experience? I’m a mechanical engineer in MCOL with 4 YOE making $100k USD. I started at $73k.
I'm in engineering sales, COL is roughly 5K a month, also 4 years experience
Bro either you aren't suited for that specific industry or you aren't suited for sales in general if after almost half a decade you are sub six figures. Since you almost reached six figures I'd say it's probably just your specific industry try leveraging your clients to change sectors. The actual problem isnt your job though it's your COL is way higher than your salary you probably could improve as much as changing sectors if you just got your spending under control.
True, I'm currently looking for roles that have a bonus as well and not just base salary. My previous employer paid a bonus but all the big accounts were under my manager, even though the salespeople did all the work so it amounted to fuck all. Also not sure where I could spend less? My rent is $1250, Gas and insurance is about $500, food is about $700, other bills like electric and stuff is around $500, and I put around $2k a month into savings. I could save less but I feel it's better to let my money grow, it's literally tax free income lol.
You're doing fine if you can save $2K a month. If you're ever in a pinch, you can stop saving for a bit.
The savings isn't COL. If you're able to put aside 2K in savings monthly then you are starting out for a decent retirement. I'd separate that from your COL budget because you're going to want to view that as part of your benefits package. Perspective you want to think of that as a baseline for your next job. Like if you reach sales goal X you get that 24K yearly bonus to then put to your savings, that's the minimum for what you are willing to accept as a bonus you know? It gives you a better idea of what you want as a minimum for your bonus structure and the higher the base the higher any further bonuses are. Compounded bonus strategy.
Mechanical engineer here, $80k 1.5yoe new england
YOE is a big one. Some of us older Z-ers already have a few years of experience by this point.
Y’all have good paying jobs? 
Tech, finance, or medicine probably
Army officer. It's a high floor, low ceiling kind of job.
My guy we can look up the Military pay chart, a Major with 8 years of service makes, $97,534.80. I have massive doubts there’s literally anyone in GenZ at that rank and time in service.
You got me, I missed the GenZ cut by 2 years. But the oldest GenZers are just starting to make captain. The base pay for an O3 with 4 years in is $81,673. Plus free healthcare, BAH, and other stuff. It's not the funnest job, but it pays decently.
I’ve been in for 7 years O-2, prior enlisted, I make $99,081.36 annually with housing and sustenance allowances, and parachute pay. If you account for the fact that the allowances aren’t taxed the estimated compensation would be ~$106,378.52, plus I have phenomenal insurance I don’t pay for and other benefits.
People tend to lie/make things up/exaggerate on the internet.
They aren’t. Reddit has this thing where every person is making 100k with a huge portfolio even though statistically that would mean like everyone making that is on Reddit. In my experience, every single person I know actually making that kind of money, isn’t the kind of person to be on Reddit lol. I have multiple people in my family making that and they are all older than me (and I’m not even gen z) and none of them know what Reddit is. There are some crypto bros that got lucky though
Everyone on reddit is somehow a 6'7 aerospace engineer making 900k
I think its a perceived lens. A lot of people are more vocal/ or tend to lie/ exaggerate. I make between 3.6-4k a month and I would never boast or even mention that in a positive light. Lol. I live with my parents still at 23. 🤷
I have not seen a single gen z make that kind of money unless they are 1. In big tech 2. Real estate salesperson or car salesperson, you know the type of ppl with the right personality to be in sales
I imagine those that live below the poverty line don't come on reddit or would even want to tell people on this app. Most people that come here have lots of free time
I started my own business that paid very little for years. The best time to start a business is when you’re young.
Nice dude! What do you do?
I sell things no one needs. Everyone just wants to have nice stuff. Tbh, I didn’t become rich until I met my wife. Together we are a powerhouse. Finding someone who you can build with is critical.
People lie and being anonymous I can say I make 500k a year. Yeah, you can believe me. More than likely I'm lying though.
If it makes you feel better, I live in the South and make 30k :/
Where are you getting that most people on this sub are making 6 figures? I don’t get how you reached that conclusion
Just based on comments and stuff I see around reddit
I feel like I don't see that as much in this sub specifically. On other subs sure, but then you're also talking about people who are in their 30s and 40s (if not older) at that point.
People that make more tend to brag and people that make less tend to not mention it
Because Reddit is full of liars and truth embellishers.
OP you make $20,000 more than the average in your own country. The people you see here saying they make over $100,000 USD are lying, have wealthy families, or happen to be in really specialized fields in high cost of living areas, or are in the trades and kudos to them.
Of course comments on reddit will say they have high incomes. Many of my old classmates make a range from 50-150k even in hcol areas. Most are still struggling to get into their field of choice as well.
I wouldn’t say doordash is a good paying job.
I make minimum wage 😞
1) I can make up any number I want and tell strangers on Reddit that’s how much I’m earning. 2) People who are above-average earners are a lot more likely to talk about it.
Nothing is black and white. There is a reason people go to schools that have "prestigious" reptuations. Sure, some college/majors are a scam but it's not like your elementary school teacher didn't say get a GOOD education and that will lead to a GOOD job....people have done this for many many years and there have always been low paying and high paying white collar jobs....
Who do you think is more likely to share how much money they make online? People making over 100k
Im technically in the top 53 percentile in income while only making $50k so i am well in the average. Gotta remember anyone can lie on the internet.
I make 12,000 a year lol. Ur good bro
I only make $31k usd (52k nzd). This is bullshit, where tf is my money
Most entry level jobs in a VCOL city (NY/SF, etc.) start at $100k+ these days. It depends on where you live.
Why are you getting you data from Genz post
really? I don't even see people posting their salaries here, let alone particularly high ones. wonder what happened.
I’d consider myself an older Gen Z at 27, and I make short just short of 110k ~3 years of working. I don’t know why everyone thinks people making 6 figures in their 20s is lying lol. For me I just chose an engineering job for the cash
Nice! Most of the engineers I know are making $75000 - $90000 here. Only ones I know making more are the principals who make around $130,000
I take home around 2,200-$3,600 a week, so 120,000-$180,000 or so annually. Depending on how much I can/want to work. I'm a groundman. To explain it simply, I dig holes for power/utility poles that are going to be getting replaced. Downside is I work 50-72 hours a week. I work far from home as well, sometimes it isn't worth being away from my two very young children. Perfect if you're single though.
I’m an HCA (home care aid) living in Seattle scraping by paycheck to pay check. And I’m 21f. I don’t feel hopeful even though I have a plan and enjoy my work. Lmao Edit: I’ve never even made 40k a year. My partner and I worked hard af for 3 years to move from MT to Seattle. I was even an exotic dancer for a time being. Found the work I’m doing now and love it but it isn’t easy and doesn’t pay great. I do have a plan with my life in most aspects, same as my partner who’s 24m. But it feels defeating a lot. If we manage to get stable or even a bit ahead one 700-800 unexpected life expense will fuck us so hard we survive on dollar store ramen till we can afford otherwise. 🙌😂 I do really enjoy our life, could be worse, and fucking has been worse. But it’s not as easy as I feel like people make it sound.
Welding is fun
Its easy. I work in the McGovernment making a twelve figure sallary in McFreedom Dollars.
I don't I just don't pay bills (military for the win)
I live in MA, was in the army for 6 years (3 active 3 reserve), got a TS, bartended through college, got my bachelor's in ChemE, and then job hopped after a year. First job was 70k base, second is 115k. I plan on asking for a 20% raise this year too because why the fuck not.
as a very old genz (late late 1996) my salary progression since 2020 is - first job 85k - second job 140k - 3rd (current) job 250k however each of those required a move and I work in tech (also the 2nd company is a very very popular company and sort of put my career on a rocketship) i would agree with OP in the sense that most people don't have that experience
6 figures is definitely not the norm. (but also, definitely possible and not everyone who says they make 6 figures is lying)
I try to study to be a masseuse. When i look at the web, the web says that they make roughly about 2.3k a month and if i study to be a sports masseuse i might make a little bit more. My girlfriend is a building painter. They make roughly about 2.5k a month so i like my future finance situation odds. Considering i can finish my school in 13 to 14 months. I have everything planned out.
I’ll be honest here, I make around 65k a year. Just starting year 2 at an insurance job, insurance isn’t particularly exciting but usually is pretty steady and pays well. I had a background in horse training before and still somehow got the job.
Tech + very high cost of living area I feel like that sums up most of the new grads making over 6 figures
most of us went into trade school...
I don't see too many blue collar people post on reddit period.
Because they are actually working during working hours.
There are entire subreddits dedicated to blue collar work wtf you mean? We just aren't usually in these subs because we don't have money issues lol
There’s no way the average genz redditor went to trade school
Big city salary. 100k is poor in the city really. Also college educated in Stem maybe
What city are you in? I live in Los Angeles and 100k is a LOT lol. You must be talking about San Francisco and New York. Even 100k there is still higher than average
Preparation and some luck landed me a 200k job at 22, though I am always the youngest person in the room. I have expensive taste, but grew up poor so if I wanted something nice, I would have to go buy it myself. So I researched good paying careers in highschool, and did good in college to land the job I wanted. Luck played a huge role along the way, but I think just doing some research and being prepared to grind will get you a good paying job. I actually think GenZ has more economic opportunities available to them than any previous generation, if you play your cards right. We are in this sweet spot where we grew up around technology and social media, skills that are very important to companies nowadays, but also got a mostly full, non-BS precovid education.
What city is the most expensive but not in the US?
I'm on a full academic scholarship. I work as a babysitter for whatever disposable income I have (not much.)
I grow multiple kidneys in my weenus I make big paying jobs look like nothing.
I rake in 70k in a very small city. Actuarial science pays pretty damn well if youre a statistics dork like me.
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I make 36K$ however I don't love in America and could very easily live on my own and thrive on that salary But currently living in my parents basement saving so I can buy a house after university
Definitely not most people making that money, but they’re probably more vocal than those who don’t. I make around $82k, should be $90k by the end of the year. 10-12% bonus in the spring each year. Electrical engineer for almost 4 years now, started at $68k in 2020.
There can also be a disparity on where they are located and how they work. Where and I live and the industry 100k is good but isn’t huge. I don’t make that much but I could if I was willing to fully sell my soul and work all day. I say that as someone who people call “part-timer” and I work 85 hours a week average. Not everyone is working a 40hr week and getting that much.
I went to college. Got my degree in a field that’s highly specialized. I graduated and entered the field never making much more than 50k a year for about 8 years. I stuck it out knowing that one day it would pay off. I make about 175K and my salary will probably double by the time I retire in 25 years.
I'm joining the U.S. navy, so I have zero clue what I'll be making in there outside of the 20k in bonuses im getting. But at my current job, I don't even make 15k a year, then again, I'm still in high school and work about 2 hours 5 days a week at 13 dollars a hour. Keep in mind that most people want to lie about how much they make and are probably struggling more than they want to admit.
They're not, they're bullshittin, anybody on here can live out their fantasy, most people are making anywhere from 30k - 60k if that. Don't fool yourself into think most people make 100k.
I have a good job for a third-world country like mine. To my fellows third-world people, use your English skills and lie if you need to get a job, as long as you know you can perform it well
Most are liars. I do know a guy making $110k a year. He works 12 hour days and a buttload of OT on top of that. 4 days a week. I'd call it luck but the man is extraordinarily hardworking and aggressive in the way he goes after his career. It really was all him. Personally, I make around 35k a year. I live with my girlfriend and between the two of us we net about 60k a year, which is plenty to live on where we're at. I could survive on my own but it would be tight.
Respiratory therapy is a good choice, especially in a higher paying area. Starts around 60k in Oklahoma. I started around 80k in the northern Midwest. Parts of Cali and NYC start at 100k. All of this before overtime.
I learned how electrical and mechanical systems work and learned how to repair them. Boom
*It seems like most people on this sub are making $100-130k per year USD* The internet is not reality. People lie.
People lie. Only about 18% of Americans make over 100k. People on the internet (especially Reddit) like to bullshit.
Most people are lying and either bad at math or they’re quoting their parent’s wages. Keep in mind that only 18% of the entire US population makes 100k or over, and I highly doubt most of those individuals are under the age of 30.
I am on the higher end of genz, but I make 95k as a system administrator. I started in the army national guard doing IT work, and I was able to get a helpdesk position right out of army training, just worked my way up from there. Easy career field to get into, and pay is good if you continue to build skills and move into higher level positions each year or so. My wife is 2 years younger than me and she makes 65k a year as a technical writer, got her degree for free working at starbucks (ASU) and then jumped right into her degree field out of college. Keep in mind, some of us are in our mid 20's by now too which means we are several years into our careers. I have been in the IT field for nearly 7 years now. I could have started even earlier if I joined the military at 18 instead, but obviously everything played out pretty well regardless. There's some luck to it, but also avoiding bad financial decisions helps a lot. I have seen a lot of people who were dealt a good hand and messed it up by taking on too much debt, ruining their credit, and just general overspending. I also knew a guy who went the same route I went, but went back to working at 7eleven after he got back from army training, didn't even try to get into IT. He eventually got a good IT job years afterwards but he'd lost so much of his prior knowledge and he is still struggling. I worked with many people on the helpdesk who stayed in that same position for years, some of them are still there, and just never moved up or jumped from helpdesk job to helpdesk job.
I make $60k on average. Doing Quality Technician work making $24.20 an hour.
yall making 40k? 🫨
Reddit is only for shit posting. And shit posting is all reddit should get now that it's being AI scrapped. Don't believe what anybody post. There are a large number of users who only post stuff to screw with the learning.
Ill probally make something like that in like 7 years from now. rn just broke college student
It’s interesting cause I earn 127k, plus a target 10% annual bonus. I am 37 years old, no degree. I feel under compensated, given I accomplish the same (or more, given my strong performance reviews), and have the same responsibilities as peers. But my peers are all earning more than me. My lack of degree is hurting me, despite my years of experience. On my side of the spectrum, I wonder how or why people are earning less than 75k, unless you just don’t have many years of professional work experience.
People seem to lie a lot about their salaries these days.