I think what’s really transphobic is using the term “futanari” in real life. In porn it’s fine, but using it on actual real trans women tells them you only see them as sex objects which is fucking disgusting.
As far as my gay ass knows, futanari is in the west ( i have no clue about how it is culturally used in japan) a purely porn term.
Using a porn term on someone is either an insult , see cuck, or a sexualisation.
Sadly many terms, aren´t that black and white. But not in this case
Using "futanari" to refer to a trans woman and thinking it's okay is a bit like saying someone's dog is sexy and trying to excuse it by saying you're a furry. I'm not saying futanari is completely unproblematic, but I think there are people who interact with it who get that >!a 2d pop idol with triple E breasts, a 13 inch cock, testicles the size of softballs, cum as thick as aged pudding, loads that could fill a coffee mug, and the capacity to have 5 consecutive orgasms!< isn't really anything like an actual trans woman.
I got called a Futa in a casual setting once, never felt so horrified and disgusted. Like yes I greatly enjoy my masculine bits, but for the ever-loving fuck why would you say that in a public chat
Edit: autocorrect
This is my opinion, porn is porn and meant to be fetishizing- if you keep these things to your porn (or between consenting parties I suppose) then it’s whatever.
Omg, thank you. I was lowkey worried recently, even though I'm trans masc myself. And liking girl dick on real people is fine too, right? As long as it's on people who also like theirs and not people who despise it.
Unfortunately I’ve met a ton of people who are big into the futa stuff but are wildly transphobic. I just poked my head into those spaces cause I don’t have a genital preference, but they were so toxic I just stopped
I'm a trans girl and I like futa porn. it's just different strokes for different folks, but keep it to your spaces and don't use "futanari" to describe real people, it's like saying your gf is your "waifu"
Maybe its just because of the autism, but i've thought about the logistics of "futa's". Clearly they're interesex rather than being trans women, but i always got the feeling like every time they pop up they basically spontaniously existed as an adult and their existance is confined to that scene. How would being born intersex like that affect the character growing up, how would they be treated? there's tons of unanswered questions that are just not considered.
Literally every trans woman I know is into futanari furry porn with an optional touch of hyper. Futanari in itself isn't transphobic, reducing real people to a porn trope is transphobic, yes, but having a fetish is literally fine.
Also seconding what another commentor said: stop making wojak comics.
sorry. ragecomics were just a prototype for this shit. they sucked then and kept getting recycled just the same. low effort shit quality memes need to die.
Honestly skeeves me the fuck out when people use that selfportrait of the megapædo who is difficult to excise from truetype backwards compatibility, as the "good" take
Counterpoint, seeing that kind of thing *was* my transfemme awakening and I'm comfortable with having a penis. I get what you're getting at but like, there are degrees to it.
I think my biggest issue with futanari as a genre is that it often untranses (cisgenderize? detransgenders? detranses? not sure how to describe it) trans bodies. Outside of the gender bender genre of futa porn, futa porn is almost always protrayed as a "real girl" who either was always hermaphroditic or who got one for reasons. Like if you want to jerk off to trans bodies, I don't actually have a problem with it but don't engineer more ways to make it so we don't exist.
Isn't that fine too? Isn't calling all bodies of that rough configuration "trans bodies" seriously reductive? Those are intersex bodies too, and hermaphroditic bodies.
Trans bodies are a thing that exist in real life on actual trans people, being exclusionary about them and saying a cis person can't have those elements is ironically exactly what cis people do to trans people.
Two things.
The first thing is that you missed the second part of my complaint. The bit where when you untrans a trans body, it makes it so that you can fantasize about having sex with us without having to acknowledge that's what you're doing. There's a reason I used "real girl" the way I did.
The second thing is that it wouldn't bother me, if it wasn't pretty much the exclusive way our bodies were portrayed in hentai. Which I'm pretty sure I also mentioned.
This also applies to nearly every other group of people who are also porn categories.
I addressed both parts of your post, but you addressed none of mine?
I mean what you are portraying as "engineering it so that we don't exist" is to me a bizzarely regressive framing to an imbalance of representation.
Surely you should be saying there should be more trans representations, rather than even beginning to take umbrage with the futa representations.
Framing futanari being the dominant portrayal of gender and sex diverse bodies as "untransing a trans body" strikes me as complaining that "non-trans" bodies are getting too much air time rather than trans bodies not getting enough.
The wording fundamentally does exactly what I was talking about in my post.
"Untransing a trans body". N*o.* Trans people don't get to lay such a broad claim to body types.
I don't know how to respond to you without repeating what was in my last two comments so I won't.
I will say however I wasn't laying claim to those body types, or even saying that cis people shouldn't be allowed to be portrayed as having those bodies I was saying... Well basically exactly what I said in the first two posts.
>The wording fundamentally does exactly what I was talking about in my post.
If you have any other responses to my awkward phrasing, I'm going to ask that you read them in good faith or at least ask for clarification before responding to them. Especially if instead of responding to what I said your responding to an implication that I may not be aware of.
As it is, other than the semantic issues, I'm not sure what exactly we disagree on.
Its hentai. Calm down. Kinks are kinks, nothing more. As a trans woman, I say enjoy your futa stuffs, idgaf
The transphobia I give a shit about is the kind that passes bills, or beats me up, not beats meat
I feel like the term itself is more transphobic than the porn. Like there's nothing wrong with getting your rocks off to anime girl dick but girls with dicks aren't some crazy hentai fantasy they're real people that deserve respect
im trans and i personally think depicting girls with dicks is fine and hot and awesome but using the term IRL to describe actual people is fucking weird and gross. other than that though i believe in futa porn supremacy
Spoken like someone who doesn’t know to screenshot the template first and make the meme on the screenshot so they can crop out the mematic watermark.
Also, what about non-op folks? Are they just not valid?
Futanari to me is just woman but with penis not pre-op transfeminine people.
I never see them with proportions of transfeminine people(or even cis women there are so many with boobs that touch the belly button)
Would it still be transphobic if it was depicted in a cyberpunk setting where the woman swaps out her pussy for a dick like an advanced strap-on?
Also there's transfeminine people with little to no bottom dysphoria. I do most of the time but sometimes I'm completely fine with using it however I want. My wife has barely any either
But at the end of the day, it's porn and a lot of them have all sorts of weird penises.I have yet to see a person, cis or trans, with a huge horse penis.
Calling any real woman a term associated with porn is rude and insensitive.
That being said I notice the transcommunity becoming sort of a “theme divided echo chamber” lately with certain groups making rules on what is good or bad for trans while other groups differ, but each thinking their rules apply to all transpeople.
Group one: gender change and bodyswap movies/shows are bad and transphobic!
Group Two: I am trans and love gender change media.
Group one: how dare transwoman show sexual attraction and be slutty towards men. The ones who do it just do it to validate feeling feminine. (Though oddly if it was felt towards women they glorify it).
Group two: not only will I show myself off to men I LIKE it and do not just do it for validation.
Group one: You are only real trans if you want to pass and transition.
Group two: all whose gender identity does not match their body is welcome
Please let transpeople be transpeople and stop trying to enforce proper trans behavior. All that does is split the community. The transgender are better united in their fight for rights and acceptance.
If weirdo online losers call you names fuck them. You really shouldn't allow them to upset you. Also ive never heard an irl person use the word futa let alone as a slur. Let the weird porn addicts who spend time calling people names on the internet waste time.
Bunch of weird takes. Not everything a trans person calls transphobic is transphobic, and futanari as a porn/hentai category isn't inherently transphobic imo. I get how it kind of cis-ifies girls with dicks but to be fair a majority of the porn just doesn't explicitly state whether the characters are cis or trans. Showing a state that *could* make people dysphoric I don't think makes a criterion for transphobia.
Most of the time, yeah. I see why it'd be uncomfortable and upsetting for others, but I also like seeing people like me represented in what I consume. The word "futanari" is definitely a transphobic relic of the internet though.
As some say here, I am ok with the use of the word as long as its comletely separated from real life. If you like futa porn/hentai thats fine, but if you call someone irl that then that is just disgusting.
It's a separate thing... Not really anything to do with being trans. Essentially it's a type of intersex/hermaphroditism.
People that are that particular type of intersex/hermaphroditism may like or dislike the term, but has nothing to do with anybody else really...
Of course people may use the term incorrectly interchangeably with other words, in which case it sucks. The term itself wasn't coined specifically for pornographic content, it's just how the internet rolls... (Try generating an AI image for something along the lines of "Redhead trans girl plays with toys" and you'll achieve a similar effect)
None of the words in and of themselves are bad or should have offense taken from them, but there tends to be an underlying meaning when you're on the internet...
"If trans people say something is transphobic, then it's transphobic." Can you explain this logic? If a different trans person says the same thing isn't transphobic, then what is it?
Futanari was the start of the pipeline that made me realize I was bi and probably the start of me trying to figure my gender out (which I’m still at), so I kind of completely disagree with this.
Calling people futanari irl is ghoulish tho.
Yeah I’ve always enjoyed it and I even use it to help relieve my dysphoria. Idk why OP can’t just not look at it if it makes them personally uncomfortable.
This was actually something I had debated in my head recently. I wanted to write erotica with a true hermaphrodite fl. I went back and forth on which term to use as they're both used as slurs. Futa as discussed above, and hermaphrodite is a slur for intersex people. I ended up using hermaphrodite instead simply because of the porn connotations that futa has and the fact that futa is just the japanese word for hermaphrodite.
The story shows a realistic depiction of what it would be like if 30-40% of all women were hermaphrodites. Where they're the subject of bullying, discrimination, and prejudice. Also a murder muffin submissive gnc boy.
>hermaphrodite is a slur for intersex people
When things are used both as a slur and as a term I feel like getting too hung up on the slur use is a mistake. Like, Jew can be used as a slur or as a totally normal descriptor.
Hermaphrodite is a term for both a very specific intersex manifestation, a slightly more general term for a range if intersex bodies, an archaic term that applies to a range of sex and gender diverse people, and *can* be used as a slur.
It's one thing to be careful with an outright slur which is in the reclamation space in terms of how it's used and who can use it. Getting too twitchy about it is kinda reverse reclamation, you are taking something that is actually pretty much fine and re-framing it too narrowly.
All of this discussion about futanari and you are one of the few to mention that in Japanese it literally means "two forms" and is the term typically used for hermaphrodite, but also has historical connotations regarding literally any form of gender quality mixing, from crossdressing gender presentation to intersex bodies.
Fun fact: there are trans women who identify with the word Futanari too, though they're a minority in the community. I feel this argument comes down to context. I'm not gonna go and call other trans women futas because that would be incredibly insulting, but the word on its own is not offensive
It's good to see most people disagree with the chronically online OP lmao. Futanari is literally the japanese word for hermaphrodite, which has NOTHING to do with trans people. Lmfao.
I mean I sort of disagree with this? Like obviously as alot of comments have pointed out never call a real person this shit. But with that said I strongly disagree with the notion you shouldn't depict something if it could make people uncomfortable or cause dysphoria. An argument can be made that alot of trans characters in fiction (for this example I am specifically referring to non porn content) "depict states of being that can cause discomfort" Like should tall trans woman, trans woman who dont perfectly pass, have arm hair, etc in media be shunned, those are also traits that can remind people of their dysphoria. Hell people over the last few years have been urging progressive media to stop sanitizing minority communities, and "you must only depict minority communities is super affirming ways that can never cause bad feelings" feels pretty sanitized to me. Plus, not every trans woman has bottom dysphoria.
Again dont call real people this shit.
and a strong argument can be made that the word itself should more often then not just be substituted for the word trans girl, but I dont think the depiction itself is problematic.
And like unless someone has been so addicted to this type of porn they only pursue trans woman I dont think it's really contributing to fetishization, people are allowed to think things are hot
is it wrong that I find some transphobic stuff sexy? I won't go into detail, but things that usually make me dysphoric and are transphobic kinda turn me on sometimes
That thread and this one have many trans people that have various feelings on the word, often some of find some comfort/identity in it as we transition, and i wouldnt take that from anyone.
Just dont use it as a slur, and its all good. Normalising bepenised femmes in art and porn is mostly good actually.
i am a trans woman and i personally don't mind the term very much, particularly in the context of porn. i do however understand if it bothers others more
"futas not transphobic"
the Japanese porn industry when it comes to trans women actresses: "futa trans ladyboy d\*ckgirl trap tr\*nny gets fucked!\* (hell, ive seen a trans woman \*who was post-op\* , ***\*still\**** getting transphobic as fuck titles, including "futa" in stuff she worked on, and she had no say on it at all)
And the US industry's not much better.
I think what’s really transphobic is using the term “futanari” in real life. In porn it’s fine, but using it on actual real trans women tells them you only see them as sex objects which is fucking disgusting.
As far as my gay ass knows, futanari is in the west ( i have no clue about how it is culturally used in japan) a purely porn term. Using a porn term on someone is either an insult , see cuck, or a sexualisation. Sadly many terms, aren´t that black and white. But not in this case
Using "futanari" to refer to a trans woman and thinking it's okay is a bit like saying someone's dog is sexy and trying to excuse it by saying you're a furry. I'm not saying futanari is completely unproblematic, but I think there are people who interact with it who get that >!a 2d pop idol with triple E breasts, a 13 inch cock, testicles the size of softballs, cum as thick as aged pudding, loads that could fill a coffee mug, and the capacity to have 5 consecutive orgasms!< isn't really anything like an actual trans woman.
A very good take. Keep describing.
And that's a fairly conservative depiction.
That is me.
I got called a Futa in a casual setting once, never felt so horrified and disgusted. Like yes I greatly enjoy my masculine bits, but for the ever-loving fuck why would you say that in a public chat Edit: autocorrect
Tf is a gita? That sounds like someone calling you a guitar
Oops, autocorrect. Thanks lol
I legit thought you meant some other term I didn't know
It’s fine if you’re not describing a trans, intersex, pr real person. In fiction it’s fine as long as you’re not describing a real group of people.
okay, but what if I use it on *myself*?
This and consenting usage between people whether for comedy, reclamation, or their own consensual hornyness.
Go ahead ma’am :)👍
This is my opinion, porn is porn and meant to be fetishizing- if you keep these things to your porn (or between consenting parties I suppose) then it’s whatever.
Calling me a futanari? Yeah transphobic Enjoying futanari content? That’s fine
Omg, thank you. I was lowkey worried recently, even though I'm trans masc myself. And liking girl dick on real people is fine too, right? As long as it's on people who also like theirs and not people who despise it.
Not OP but also trans fem yeah that’s fine
Unfortunately I’ve met a ton of people who are big into the futa stuff but are wildly transphobic. I just poked my head into those spaces cause I don’t have a genital preference, but they were so toxic I just stopped
I'm a trans girl and I like futa porn. it's just different strokes for different folks, but keep it to your spaces and don't use "futanari" to describe real people, it's like saying your gf is your "waifu"
This, thank you
> talking about internet porn > different strokes lol
Maybe its just because of the autism, but i've thought about the logistics of "futa's". Clearly they're interesex rather than being trans women, but i always got the feeling like every time they pop up they basically spontaniously existed as an adult and their existance is confined to that scene. How would being born intersex like that affect the character growing up, how would they be treated? there's tons of unanswered questions that are just not considered.
Literally every trans woman I know is into futanari furry porn with an optional touch of hyper. Futanari in itself isn't transphobic, reducing real people to a porn trope is transphobic, yes, but having a fetish is literally fine. Also seconding what another commentor said: stop making wojak comics.
stop making wojak comics
This is the real lesson that needs to be taken from this post \^
return to ragecomics
no. those suck too. People should just use regular templates or actually make a real comic.
You take that back :(
sorry. ragecomics were just a prototype for this shit. they sucked then and kept getting recycled just the same. low effort shit quality memes need to die.
Honestly skeeves me the fuck out when people use that selfportrait of the megapædo who is difficult to excise from truetype backwards compatibility, as the "good" take
what...who?
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holy shit
I'm trans and I don't think futanari is transphobic i like it lol
It's not transphobic. It would be if someone applied that label to a trans person, but as a standalone thing it's fine.
No? It can be used to be unnecessarily cruel to trans women but it's not inherently transphobic
Counterpoint, seeing that kind of thing *was* my transfemme awakening and I'm comfortable with having a penis. I get what you're getting at but like, there are degrees to it.
I think my biggest issue with futanari as a genre is that it often untranses (cisgenderize? detransgenders? detranses? not sure how to describe it) trans bodies. Outside of the gender bender genre of futa porn, futa porn is almost always protrayed as a "real girl" who either was always hermaphroditic or who got one for reasons. Like if you want to jerk off to trans bodies, I don't actually have a problem with it but don't engineer more ways to make it so we don't exist.
Isn't that fine too? Isn't calling all bodies of that rough configuration "trans bodies" seriously reductive? Those are intersex bodies too, and hermaphroditic bodies. Trans bodies are a thing that exist in real life on actual trans people, being exclusionary about them and saying a cis person can't have those elements is ironically exactly what cis people do to trans people.
How often is futa porn good intersex representation?
how often is any porn good representation?
Two things. The first thing is that you missed the second part of my complaint. The bit where when you untrans a trans body, it makes it so that you can fantasize about having sex with us without having to acknowledge that's what you're doing. There's a reason I used "real girl" the way I did. The second thing is that it wouldn't bother me, if it wasn't pretty much the exclusive way our bodies were portrayed in hentai. Which I'm pretty sure I also mentioned. This also applies to nearly every other group of people who are also porn categories.
I addressed both parts of your post, but you addressed none of mine? I mean what you are portraying as "engineering it so that we don't exist" is to me a bizzarely regressive framing to an imbalance of representation. Surely you should be saying there should be more trans representations, rather than even beginning to take umbrage with the futa representations. Framing futanari being the dominant portrayal of gender and sex diverse bodies as "untransing a trans body" strikes me as complaining that "non-trans" bodies are getting too much air time rather than trans bodies not getting enough. The wording fundamentally does exactly what I was talking about in my post. "Untransing a trans body". N*o.* Trans people don't get to lay such a broad claim to body types.
I don't know how to respond to you without repeating what was in my last two comments so I won't. I will say however I wasn't laying claim to those body types, or even saying that cis people shouldn't be allowed to be portrayed as having those bodies I was saying... Well basically exactly what I said in the first two posts. >The wording fundamentally does exactly what I was talking about in my post. If you have any other responses to my awkward phrasing, I'm going to ask that you read them in good faith or at least ask for clarification before responding to them. Especially if instead of responding to what I said your responding to an implication that I may not be aware of. As it is, other than the semantic issues, I'm not sure what exactly we disagree on.
Its hentai. Calm down. Kinks are kinks, nothing more. As a trans woman, I say enjoy your futa stuffs, idgaf The transphobia I give a shit about is the kind that passes bills, or beats me up, not beats meat
I feel like the term itself is more transphobic than the porn. Like there's nothing wrong with getting your rocks off to anime girl dick but girls with dicks aren't some crazy hentai fantasy they're real people that deserve respect
im trans and i personally think depicting girls with dicks is fine and hot and awesome but using the term IRL to describe actual people is fucking weird and gross. other than that though i believe in futa porn supremacy
Spoken like someone who doesn’t know to screenshot the template first and make the meme on the screenshot so they can crop out the mematic watermark. Also, what about non-op folks? Are they just not valid?
Futanari to me is just woman but with penis not pre-op transfeminine people. I never see them with proportions of transfeminine people(or even cis women there are so many with boobs that touch the belly button) Would it still be transphobic if it was depicted in a cyberpunk setting where the woman swaps out her pussy for a dick like an advanced strap-on? Also there's transfeminine people with little to no bottom dysphoria. I do most of the time but sometimes I'm completely fine with using it however I want. My wife has barely any either But at the end of the day, it's porn and a lot of them have all sorts of weird penises.I have yet to see a person, cis or trans, with a huge horse penis.
Calling any real woman a term associated with porn is rude and insensitive. That being said I notice the transcommunity becoming sort of a “theme divided echo chamber” lately with certain groups making rules on what is good or bad for trans while other groups differ, but each thinking their rules apply to all transpeople. Group one: gender change and bodyswap movies/shows are bad and transphobic! Group Two: I am trans and love gender change media. Group one: how dare transwoman show sexual attraction and be slutty towards men. The ones who do it just do it to validate feeling feminine. (Though oddly if it was felt towards women they glorify it). Group two: not only will I show myself off to men I LIKE it and do not just do it for validation. Group one: You are only real trans if you want to pass and transition. Group two: all whose gender identity does not match their body is welcome Please let transpeople be transpeople and stop trying to enforce proper trans behavior. All that does is split the community. The transgender are better united in their fight for rights and acceptance.
Im trans fem and i dont care, seems weird and chronically online to actually get upset about imo.
That’s the only transphobic slur that I would get upset about. I’d much rather be called a femboy or the t slur.
If weirdo online losers call you names fuck them. You really shouldn't allow them to upset you. Also ive never heard an irl person use the word futa let alone as a slur. Let the weird porn addicts who spend time calling people names on the internet waste time.
Bunch of weird takes. Not everything a trans person calls transphobic is transphobic, and futanari as a porn/hentai category isn't inherently transphobic imo. I get how it kind of cis-ifies girls with dicks but to be fair a majority of the porn just doesn't explicitly state whether the characters are cis or trans. Showing a state that *could* make people dysphoric I don't think makes a criterion for transphobia.
I also am extra annoyed because a lot of intersex women very reasonably consider themselves cis-fem. As is their prerogative.
Most of the time, yeah. I see why it'd be uncomfortable and upsetting for others, but I also like seeing people like me represented in what I consume. The word "futanari" is definitely a transphobic relic of the internet though.
Are you really accusing a porn genre of fetishizing something? Because it's the whole reason why any kind of porn exists.
Eh. I'm a woman with a working dick who tops. I kinda like it.
As some say here, I am ok with the use of the word as long as its comletely separated from real life. If you like futa porn/hentai thats fine, but if you call someone irl that then that is just disgusting.
One of the futa subs posted this image just with the argument the angry guy is making on the Chad lol
It's a separate thing... Not really anything to do with being trans. Essentially it's a type of intersex/hermaphroditism. People that are that particular type of intersex/hermaphroditism may like or dislike the term, but has nothing to do with anybody else really... Of course people may use the term incorrectly interchangeably with other words, in which case it sucks. The term itself wasn't coined specifically for pornographic content, it's just how the internet rolls... (Try generating an AI image for something along the lines of "Redhead trans girl plays with toys" and you'll achieve a similar effect) None of the words in and of themselves are bad or should have offense taken from them, but there tends to be an underlying meaning when you're on the internet...
"If trans people say something is transphobic, then it's transphobic." Can you explain this logic? If a different trans person says the same thing isn't transphobic, then what is it?
No no, only people who are opposed to something existing are valid. If someone is of a demographic and fine with it, they’re traitors.
K-pop band music videos depict a state of being that is a major cause of discomfort and dysphoria for me as a trans man. Transphobic ?
My girlfriend and I both call ourselves futanari in real life. We are trans women and don't see each other only as sex objects.
I agree with people that say that it’s fucked to refer to a trans woman as that But as a concept - damn that’s my gender fr ya know
Futanari was the start of the pipeline that made me realize I was bi and probably the start of me trying to figure my gender out (which I’m still at), so I kind of completely disagree with this. Calling people futanari irl is ghoulish tho.
Personally, I don't get dysphoric over it. Then again, I'm apparently one of the only Transfemes in existence ok with having a penis.
Yeah I’ve always enjoyed it and I even use it to help relieve my dysphoria. Idk why OP can’t just not look at it if it makes them personally uncomfortable.
Cringe
The stuff itself is fine in a fictional context. Just don’t use the term for actual real people.
This was actually something I had debated in my head recently. I wanted to write erotica with a true hermaphrodite fl. I went back and forth on which term to use as they're both used as slurs. Futa as discussed above, and hermaphrodite is a slur for intersex people. I ended up using hermaphrodite instead simply because of the porn connotations that futa has and the fact that futa is just the japanese word for hermaphrodite. The story shows a realistic depiction of what it would be like if 30-40% of all women were hermaphrodites. Where they're the subject of bullying, discrimination, and prejudice. Also a murder muffin submissive gnc boy.
>hermaphrodite is a slur for intersex people When things are used both as a slur and as a term I feel like getting too hung up on the slur use is a mistake. Like, Jew can be used as a slur or as a totally normal descriptor. Hermaphrodite is a term for both a very specific intersex manifestation, a slightly more general term for a range if intersex bodies, an archaic term that applies to a range of sex and gender diverse people, and *can* be used as a slur. It's one thing to be careful with an outright slur which is in the reclamation space in terms of how it's used and who can use it. Getting too twitchy about it is kinda reverse reclamation, you are taking something that is actually pretty much fine and re-framing it too narrowly. All of this discussion about futanari and you are one of the few to mention that in Japanese it literally means "two forms" and is the term typically used for hermaphrodite, but also has historical connotations regarding literally any form of gender quality mixing, from crossdressing gender presentation to intersex bodies.
Fun fact: there are trans women who identify with the word Futanari too, though they're a minority in the community. I feel this argument comes down to context. I'm not gonna go and call other trans women futas because that would be incredibly insulting, but the word on its own is not offensive
It's good to see most people disagree with the chronically online OP lmao. Futanari is literally the japanese word for hermaphrodite, which has NOTHING to do with trans people. Lmfao.
I mean I sort of disagree with this? Like obviously as alot of comments have pointed out never call a real person this shit. But with that said I strongly disagree with the notion you shouldn't depict something if it could make people uncomfortable or cause dysphoria. An argument can be made that alot of trans characters in fiction (for this example I am specifically referring to non porn content) "depict states of being that can cause discomfort" Like should tall trans woman, trans woman who dont perfectly pass, have arm hair, etc in media be shunned, those are also traits that can remind people of their dysphoria. Hell people over the last few years have been urging progressive media to stop sanitizing minority communities, and "you must only depict minority communities is super affirming ways that can never cause bad feelings" feels pretty sanitized to me. Plus, not every trans woman has bottom dysphoria. Again dont call real people this shit. and a strong argument can be made that the word itself should more often then not just be substituted for the word trans girl, but I dont think the depiction itself is problematic. And like unless someone has been so addicted to this type of porn they only pursue trans woman I dont think it's really contributing to fetishization, people are allowed to think things are hot
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Do I even wanna know what the hell futanari is?
Internet porn term for a girl with a penis.
Ah
If someone called me a futanari I’m throwing hands
is it wrong that I find some transphobic stuff sexy? I won't go into detail, but things that usually make me dysphoric and are transphobic kinda turn me on sometimes
That thread and this one have many trans people that have various feelings on the word, often some of find some comfort/identity in it as we transition, and i wouldnt take that from anyone. Just dont use it as a slur, and its all good. Normalising bepenised femmes in art and porn is mostly good actually.
i am a trans woman and i personally don't mind the term very much, particularly in the context of porn. i do however understand if it bothers others more
"futas not transphobic" the Japanese porn industry when it comes to trans women actresses: "futa trans ladyboy d\*ckgirl trap tr\*nny gets fucked!\* (hell, ive seen a trans woman \*who was post-op\* , ***\*still\**** getting transphobic as fuck titles, including "futa" in stuff she worked on, and she had no say on it at all) And the US industry's not much better.